| Watching the Hilsboro programme, BBC1 21:33 - May 20 with 15882 views | Stanisgod |
F*cking unbelievable corruption. No wonder the scousers have been miffed all these years. |  |
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| Watching the Hilsboro programme, BBC1 on 14:47 - May 21 with 1839 views | Hayesender |
I have just finished watching it and I am so bloody angry I have no words.
Why why why do we, as human's, allow the elite to literally get away with murder! |  |
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| Watching the Hilsboro programme, BBC1 on 15:40 - May 21 with 1781 views | bob566 |
Mick Jones of the clash ran a whole series of concerts called justice for the 96.
Went to the one in Dublin. It was very good.
I always thought what would be a nice touch by Wednesday would be to make the bit in the stand where it says SWFC out of 96 red seats in honour of the dead.
I'm sure others would disagree though. |  | | |
| Watching the Hilsboro programme, BBC1 on 16:08 - May 21 with 1739 views | smegma |
| Watching the Hilsboro programme, BBC1 on 22:28 - May 20 by QPRDave |
Sorry wombat ....just saying that the Yorkshire police are blamed, the coroner was blamed maggie was blamed but their fans crushed them.
Sorry i'm not trying to upset any of you |
Just rewriting the truth instead. | | | |
| Watching the Hilsboro programme, BBC1 on 16:15 - May 21 with 1728 views | Northernr |
| Watching the Hilsboro programme, BBC1 on 22:29 - May 20 by QPRDave |
Shut your gob tw*t..... |
Take this as your one and only warning. Next time will be a permanent ban. |  | | |
| Watching the Hilsboro programme, BBC1 on 16:19 - May 21 with 1716 views | qprcanadabc |
what is the full name of the programme so i can watch it on youtube...cheers |  | | |
| Watching the Hilsboro programme, BBC1 on 16:24 - May 21 with 1708 views | SonofNorfolt |
| Watching the Hilsboro programme, BBC1 on 16:19 - May 21 by qprcanadabc |
what is the full name of the programme so i can watch it on youtube...cheers |
It was Panorama, probably available on iPlayer. |  | | |
| Watching the Hilsboro programme, BBC1 on 16:25 - May 21 with 1705 views | bob566 |
| Watching the Hilsboro programme, BBC1 on 16:15 - May 21 by Northernr |
Take this as your one and only warning. Next time will be a permanent ban. |
can you unignore me from stubad Clive please?
I've somehow clicked ignore when I didn't mean to. | | | |
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| Watching the Hilsboro programme, BBC1 on 16:25 - May 21 with 1699 views | smegma |
| Watching the Hilsboro programme, BBC1 on 15:40 - May 21 by bob566 |
Mick Jones of the clash ran a whole series of concerts called justice for the 96.
Went to the one in Dublin. It was very good.
I always thought what would be a nice touch by Wednesday would be to make the bit in the stand where it says SWFC out of 96 red seats in honour of the dead.
I'm sure others would disagree though. |
I was at the London gig at the Scala. Great show which included Paul Simenon and Mick Jones playing Clash songs on stage with various different singers plus Primal Scream and the Farm played as well and the renta gob that is Pete Wylie. | | | |
| Watching the Hilsboro programme, BBC1 on 16:25 - May 21 with 1700 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Watching the Hilsboro programme, BBC1 on 16:19 - May 21 by qprcanadabc |
what is the full name of the programme so i can watch it on youtube...cheers |
Hillsborough - How They Buried the Truth |  |
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| Watching the Hilsboro programme, BBC1 on 16:28 - May 21 with 1694 views | Northernr |
| Watching the Hilsboro programme, BBC1 on 16:25 - May 21 by bob566 |
can you unignore me from stubad Clive please?
I've somehow clicked ignore when I didn't mean to. |
When logged in you should see an option to edit your profile in the top right of the screen. Click on there, then on ignored users, and unignore him. | | | |
| Watching the Hilsboro programme, BBC1 on 16:28 - May 21 with 1693 views | qprcanadabc |
| Watching the Hilsboro programme, BBC1 on 16:25 - May 21 by BrianMcCarthy |
Hillsborough - How They Buried the Truth |
thanks Brian | | | |
| Watching the Hilsboro programme, BBC1 on 16:30 - May 21 with 1689 views | qprcanadabc |
| Watching the Hilsboro programme, BBC1 on 16:24 - May 21 by SonofNorfolt |
It was Panorama, probably available on iPlayer. |
cheers too :) ... almost am hesitate to watch it as I know it will be upsetting! | | | |
| Watching the Hilsboro programme, BBC1 on 16:30 - May 21 with 1687 views | Rangersw12 |
The people who sadly died are completely blameless and were in the wrong place at the wrong time.
However having read the report I still cannot see how the other Scousers are completely blameless it seems to me the report has gone too much the other way
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| Watching the Hilsboro programme, BBC1 on 16:33 - May 21 with 1681 views | SussexR |
| Watching the Hilsboro programme, BBC1 on 14:05 - May 21 by Brightonhoop |
Nice one. You weren't alone in being suckered by plod, government an murdoch's papers.
Some of the comments in this thread are beyond belief so I'll focus on the classier ones and say no more....jesus wept.
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I won't make cooment on some of the feelings expressed on here which are disgusting. The posters know who they are. I wont mention their names.
What i will say is that this disaster could have been any of us. Where you come from, or what club you support doesnt matter. NO ONE should go to a football match and not come home again.
The fact that it took so long for the truth to come out of the establishment, even though many people knew or suspected it, is shameful on our nation.
The events after the disaster is nothing short of a national disgrace and people should end up in jail for it (and I really hope they do). | | | |
| Watching the Hilsboro programme, BBC1 on 16:37 - May 21 with 1667 views | windsorhoop |
| Watching the Hilsboro programme, BBC1 on 13:53 - May 21 by westolian |
I was in the Loft that day.
Probably the most boring 0-0 draw, i remember it being really sunny.
But then the reports came through on peoples radios and standing there was possibly the most saddening / sickening / scary thing i've experienced at a football match - you could see people looking at each other in disbelief, not saying a word but everyone was thinking the same thing, that could be us !!
I've spent years spouting off about the Liverpool fans (based on that one piece of footage) crushing their own.
I was suckered into the conspiracy and to be honest I feel pretty guilty at the ill-informed opinions i held.
Not any more - RIP96 |
I'm with you westo.
Always felt the police weren't blameless but that the real issue was with Liverpool fans but as the documentary showed they didn't rush the gates, even after the gates were opened they didn't charge into the terrace they just headed naturally to the nearest point to see the game.
The disaster could of happened to any club who had made the FA cup semi final and got put in that end. Heysel etc has nothing to do with this.
Interesting that Danny Baker was commenting last night that he felt the riot at Luton was caused by exactly the same police decision. They opened the turnstiles and let everyone in and as the terrace filled up beyond capacity people who tried to get of the crush and onto the pitch were bitten by dogs and baton charged back into the crowd until the millwall fans finally had enough and charged the police. Not sure I believe this 100% but he did say they didn't attack opposing fans just the police.
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| Watching the Hilsboro programme, BBC1 on 16:41 - May 21 with 1652 views | bob566 |
| Watching the Hilsboro programme, BBC1 on 16:28 - May 21 by Northernr |
When logged in you should see an option to edit your profile in the top right of the screen. Click on there, then on ignored users, and unignore him. |
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| Watching the Hilsboro programme, BBC1 on 16:43 - May 21 with 1646 views | Bedford_R |
| Watching the Hilsboro programme, BBC1 on 13:34 - May 21 by real_loftus |
Read the Hillsborough Independent Panel report, which concluded "no Liverpool fans were responsible in any way for the disaster", that the cause was "lack of police control" and that the safety of the crowd was compromised at every level. Also the report referenced the attempts of the SY Police to cover their arses and a local MP feeding spurious comments to the media.
I cant stand scousers. But this was nothing more than a cover up on a national level across all agencies involved.
Get educated, then comment.
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What he said.
How some can still try and blame the fans for this is just uninformed choice of ignorance.
After the most exhaustive investigation by independent panellists who concluded that there were failings with numerous bodies and authorities the truth has been established.
At least those biased and blinkered views are being lambasted by the majority of the decent QPR family on here.... |  |
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| Watching the Hilsboro programme, BBC1 on 16:47 - May 21 with 1635 views | Rangersw12 |
| Watching the Hilsboro programme, BBC1 on 16:43 - May 21 by Bedford_R |
What he said.
How some can still try and blame the fans for this is just uninformed choice of ignorance.
After the most exhaustive investigation by independent panellists who concluded that there were failings with numerous bodies and authorities the truth has been established.
At least those biased and blinkered views are being lambasted by the majority of the decent QPR family on here.... |
I presume you have seen who was on the panel | | | |
| Watching the Hilsboro programme, BBC1 on 16:48 - May 21 with 1631 views | Bedford_R |
| Watching the Hilsboro programme, BBC1 on 16:47 - May 21 by Rangersw12 |
I presume you have seen who was on the panel |
Yes. And your point is? | |
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| Watching the Hilsboro programme, BBC1 on 16:52 - May 21 with 1613 views | beeeater |
| Watching the Hilsboro programme, BBC1 on 14:47 - May 21 by Hayesender |
I have just finished watching it and I am so bloody angry I have no words.
Why why why do we, as human's, allow the elite to literally get away with murder! |
They always do , the list is endless and will continue to be so . If you have the power, wealth or both you can pretty much do what you want. Fortunately there are a few journalist about , people like Julian Assange at Wikileaks and others who do report this stuff . And put these toerags out in the open for all to see . | | | |
| Watching the Hilsboro programme, BBC1 on 16:55 - May 21 with 1602 views | Hayesender |
| Watching the Hilsboro programme, BBC1 on 16:52 - May 21 by beeeater |
They always do , the list is endless and will continue to be so . If you have the power, wealth or both you can pretty much do what you want. Fortunately there are a few journalist about , people like Julian Assange at Wikileaks and others who do report this stuff . And put these toerags out in the open for all to see . |
And look what's happened to him! | |
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| Watching the Hilsboro programme, BBC1 on 17:00 - May 21 with 1593 views | SonofNorfolt |
| Watching the Hilsboro programme, BBC1 on 16:37 - May 21 by windsorhoop |
I'm with you westo.
Always felt the police weren't blameless but that the real issue was with Liverpool fans but as the documentary showed they didn't rush the gates, even after the gates were opened they didn't charge into the terrace they just headed naturally to the nearest point to see the game.
The disaster could of happened to any club who had made the FA cup semi final and got put in that end. Heysel etc has nothing to do with this.
Interesting that Danny Baker was commenting last night that he felt the riot at Luton was caused by exactly the same police decision. They opened the turnstiles and let everyone in and as the terrace filled up beyond capacity people who tried to get of the crush and onto the pitch were bitten by dogs and baton charged back into the crowd until the millwall fans finally had enough and charged the police. Not sure I believe this 100% but he did say they didn't attack opposing fans just the police.
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That's true about Luton v Millwall, ask anyone who was there. | | | |
| Watching the Hilsboro programme, BBC1 on 17:14 - May 21 with 1565 views | SomersetHoops |
| Watching the Hilsboro programme, BBC1 on 22:00 - May 20 by QPRDave |
Were the innocent 96 fans though not killed because thousands of Liverpool fans rushed in and killed them |
If you look for the cause that was it, even if they didn't know what their actions were causing. The people who died were entirely innocent and better management by the police and better reaction by and management of the emergency services could have saved many of them. The fact that this has been institutionally concealed all these years is a disgrace.
None of this completely exonerates the actions of those thoughtless fans whose actions were the primary cause of the problem and after Heysel you might have thought should have known and acted better. Unless all the lessons are learnt from this terrible waste of lives there is a danger that something similar could happen again. There are several instances of crowds of people stampeding at religious and political gatherings in the third world and that is always regrettable, but it should never happen in a country that claims to be civilised. |  |
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