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Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich 13:02 - Feb 14 with 119129 viewsloftboy

Should the worst happen and the Russians invade, I suspect that many rich Russians in the UK will be part of the proposed sanctions, could this affect our foes down the road?

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Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 20:36 - Mar 11 with 5114 viewskensalriser

Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 19:40 - Mar 11 by GloryHunter

Yes, it would be embarrassing if we still had our previous owners. Bernie Ecclestone has been expressing his support for Putin:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/17823905/bernie-ecclestone-vladimir-putin-defence


Long suspected he's a grade A cnt, now I know. I was so happy the day he and that two-bit sleazy slag Briatore left the club

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Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 21:06 - Mar 11 with 5059 viewsCliveWilsonSaid

Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 21:36 - Mar 10 by BrianMcCarthy

Is this a genuine account?
Is this honestly the British Government, who used to teach the world diplomacy?

[Post edited 10 Mar 2022 21:54]


It's a surreal world we live in Brian.

Next thing you know, Russell Brand will be the only person talking sense!

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Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 09:39 - Mar 12 with 4814 viewsPlanetHonneywood

The day Putin sanctioned the rewriting of history on Stalin, was the day we knew where he was heading. The Stalin purges that killed 20m of his own kind; the gulags; and the post-WW2 land grabs have all been diluted so as to present Stalin as a father figure.

The collapse of Stalin’s vision is credited as being the worst day for Putin and he’s worked to return Russia to its former self. Like all dictators, he’s enriched himself to such an extent that all of these oligarchs cut him in or else and he’s as rich if not richer than Bezos.

He’s amassed a war chest in the Russian central bank for the long haul. He knows the west won’t enter a fight and if they do, China will side with him if it suits them. Which it does, as they’re carrying on making money.

Frankly, it’s a total sh1t shower in the making, that has Orwell either laughing his head off or twitching nervously in his grave.

But while all this takes place, the bigger existential crisis that’s the environment goes unaddressed.

What a time to play at Luton’s gulag.

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Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 10:04 - Mar 12 with 4734 viewsSonofpugwash

Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 09:39 - Mar 12 by PlanetHonneywood

The day Putin sanctioned the rewriting of history on Stalin, was the day we knew where he was heading. The Stalin purges that killed 20m of his own kind; the gulags; and the post-WW2 land grabs have all been diluted so as to present Stalin as a father figure.

The collapse of Stalin’s vision is credited as being the worst day for Putin and he’s worked to return Russia to its former self. Like all dictators, he’s enriched himself to such an extent that all of these oligarchs cut him in or else and he’s as rich if not richer than Bezos.

He’s amassed a war chest in the Russian central bank for the long haul. He knows the west won’t enter a fight and if they do, China will side with him if it suits them. Which it does, as they’re carrying on making money.

Frankly, it’s a total sh1t shower in the making, that has Orwell either laughing his head off or twitching nervously in his grave.

But while all this takes place, the bigger existential crisis that’s the environment goes unaddressed.

What a time to play at Luton’s gulag.


Mate there won't be any "environment" if Chernobyl kicks off again.Apparently there aren't any technicians to oversee the site and the "invading" forces don't have a Scoobie as to how things are managed.

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Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 10:04 - Mar 12 with 4758 viewsessextaxiboy

Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 19:59 - Mar 10 by Sonofpugwash

We're sending these to the Ukranians.
The fastest man portable missile available - actually Mach 4.5 and not 3.5.



I used to take some BAE systems guys back and forwards to the airports .
They told me that whatever they sell to other regimes they always hold the latest technology back .
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Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 10:35 - Mar 12 with 4699 viewsLythamR

Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 09:39 - Mar 12 by PlanetHonneywood

The day Putin sanctioned the rewriting of history on Stalin, was the day we knew where he was heading. The Stalin purges that killed 20m of his own kind; the gulags; and the post-WW2 land grabs have all been diluted so as to present Stalin as a father figure.

The collapse of Stalin’s vision is credited as being the worst day for Putin and he’s worked to return Russia to its former self. Like all dictators, he’s enriched himself to such an extent that all of these oligarchs cut him in or else and he’s as rich if not richer than Bezos.

He’s amassed a war chest in the Russian central bank for the long haul. He knows the west won’t enter a fight and if they do, China will side with him if it suits them. Which it does, as they’re carrying on making money.

Frankly, it’s a total sh1t shower in the making, that has Orwell either laughing his head off or twitching nervously in his grave.

But while all this takes place, the bigger existential crisis that’s the environment goes unaddressed.

What a time to play at Luton’s gulag.


I wouldnt be overly confident that China will continue to support russia

Russia and China have disputed The Amur region for 100's of years.

Huge natural resources at stake, as soon as the time appears right they will be across the Amur like a pack of hyena's
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Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 11:30 - Mar 14 with 4390 viewsBrianMcCarthy

https://www.ft.com/content/503fb110-f91e-4bed-b6dc-0d09582dd007

Had this sent to me. Well worth a read.

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Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 12:22 - Mar 14 with 4291 viewsjoe90

Really interesting article, thanks for sharing.

One thing that I’ve tried to explain to friends and family is that there is deeply held belief driving Putin and it’s not simply a case of him being completely nuts - which IMO is more scary.

This has to be taken into consideration when we work our response to the war and how we deal with Russia in the future.

It’s also important to remember that trying to understand their motives and beliefs doesn’t justify their actions. We are engaged in a battle of ideologies.
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Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 13:52 - Mar 14 with 4120 viewswood_hoop

Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 11:30 - Mar 14 by BrianMcCarthy

https://www.ft.com/content/503fb110-f91e-4bed-b6dc-0d09582dd007

Had this sent to me. Well worth a read.


Thanks BrianM,

Trying to get to understand why Putin has taken such drastic action now had me puzzled, understanding more of the background is a help.

Theres so much to this and maybe years and years if ever getting to know exactly how the Russians have been very cute in certain parts of the west.

To me it seems the horse has bolted and certain individuals have questions to answer that allowed Putin to think his murderous campaign had more chance to suceed

The UK is coming across as a prime source for allowing Putins cohorts to influence and change our society, not that you would know it if believing our main news sources.

Lots out there if you really look, how true I suppose depends on your political leanings, but strange things have been happening, so who really knows.

https://yorkshirebylines.co.uk/news/world/the-russia-connection-defying-gravity-
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Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 18:53 - Mar 14 with 3953 viewsrrrspricey

Sorry if this is a Spackman but with all the worldwide sanctions, why is Russia not expelled from the UN?
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Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 19:01 - Mar 14 with 3936 viewsQPR_John

Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 18:53 - Mar 14 by rrrspricey

Sorry if this is a Spackman but with all the worldwide sanctions, why is Russia not expelled from the UN?


Because this situation has shown the UN is a waste of oxygen.
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Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 20:33 - Mar 14 with 3847 viewsPaddyhoops

Just watched The panorama programme about Abramovich.
Not good viewing for Chelsea fans.
Dirty money doesn't even come close to describing to some of dealings.
The idea that he had nothing to do with Putin is frankly ludicrous.
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Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 22:01 - Mar 14 with 3762 views222gers

Just saw on BBC news the Russian lady that ran on to a live Russian TV news programme and held a No War placard behind the newsreader for viewers to see. Jesus, now that is courage.
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Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 22:18 - Mar 14 with 3710 viewsBoston

Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 10:35 - Mar 12 by LythamR

I wouldnt be overly confident that China will continue to support russia

Russia and China have disputed The Amur region for 100's of years.

Huge natural resources at stake, as soon as the time appears right they will be across the Amur like a pack of hyena's


China will, if not support Russia, just step back a bit, as will North Korea, India, much of Africa and some Middle Eastern countries. There is another wider scenario in the works.

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Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 09:17 - Mar 15 with 3517 viewsstevec

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Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 09:29 - Mar 15 with 3495 viewsDaBurgh

Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 22:01 - Mar 14 by 222gers

Just saw on BBC news the Russian lady that ran on to a live Russian TV news programme and held a No War placard behind the newsreader for viewers to see. Jesus, now that is courage.


That woman was incredibly brave. A lot of people in the west would participate in various demonstrations for one thing or the other but for fear of spending a night in the police cells. This woman is risking being charged with treason and sent to some god forsaken gulag in the middle of no where, if we are to believe what we have been told. God help her and others who find this courage and incredible love for their fellow humans.
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Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 11:21 - Mar 15 with 3362 viewsOrthodox_Hoop

Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 18:53 - Mar 14 by rrrspricey

Sorry if this is a Spackman but with all the worldwide sanctions, why is Russia not expelled from the UN?


The five permanent members of the UN Security Council would need to all agree to expel Russia. Russia is one of those 5, and China's there too so any motion to remove them would be vetoed. I think it works like that.
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Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 13:13 - Mar 15 with 3235 viewsTomS

This is David Squires' take on it in today's paper. It's powerful.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2022/mar/15/david-squires-on
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Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 21:35 - Mar 15 with 2962 viewsGloryHunter

Regarding Putin's motives, this article was supposed to be published following a rapid victory in Ukraine. It was mistakenly posted early and quickly taken down again:
https://mil.in.ua/en/news/brave-new-world-of-putin-an-article-by-the-propaganda-
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Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 00:11 - Mar 16 with 2821 viewsCliveWilsonSaid

Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 21:35 - Mar 15 by GloryHunter

Regarding Putin's motives, this article was supposed to be published following a rapid victory in Ukraine. It was mistakenly posted early and quickly taken down again:
https://mil.in.ua/en/news/brave-new-world-of-putin-an-article-by-the-propaganda-


And they all lived happily ever after.

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Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 07:35 - Mar 16 with 2725 viewsRanger_Things

Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 22:01 - Mar 14 by 222gers

Just saw on BBC news the Russian lady that ran on to a live Russian TV news programme and held a No War placard behind the newsreader for viewers to see. Jesus, now that is courage.


Yep, brave woman. It is a bit galling to read Conservatives MP’s praising her when they just passed a bill which could see someone over here getting 10 years for doing the same.
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Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 18:34 - Mar 16 with 2452 viewsthemodfather

that is the second panorama expose on roman, not much changed , so why a 2 decade delay in action? and what does football do about saudi money in the game and their appalling human non rights! we will be force fed the love for Qatar soon and little said of the 1000s who died building unneeded stadiums in the desert!
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Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 18:50 - Mar 16 with 4621 viewsQPR_John

Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 07:35 - Mar 16 by Ranger_Things

Yep, brave woman. It is a bit galling to read Conservatives MP’s praising her when they just passed a bill which could see someone over here getting 10 years for doing the same.


Really!!!! So all this talk about Putin is a pack of lies. He really is a good bloke.
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Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 19:44 - Mar 16 with 4544 viewsJuzzie

Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 18:34 - Mar 16 by themodfather

that is the second panorama expose on roman, not much changed , so why a 2 decade delay in action? and what does football do about saudi money in the game and their appalling human non rights! we will be force fed the love for Qatar soon and little said of the 1000s who died building unneeded stadiums in the desert!


“…… so why a 2 decade delay in action?”

I would hazard a guess that Roman’s plan worked. Make Chelsea so successful it has afforded him all sorts of protection.
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Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 21:36 - Mar 16 with 4446 viewsgobbles

Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 07:35 - Mar 16 by Ranger_Things

Yep, brave woman. It is a bit galling to read Conservatives MP’s praising her when they just passed a bill which could see someone over here getting 10 years for doing the same.


Reminds me a bit of a bit from the old C4 show Who Dares Wins, which I used to love, talking about Thatcher standing up for trade union rights, but only in Poland
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