| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich 13:02 - Feb 14 with 119203 views | loftboy |
Should the worst happen and the Russians invade, I suspect that many rich Russians in the UK will be part of the proposed sanctions, could this affect our foes down the road? |  |
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| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 08:01 - Mar 1 with 4547 views | CiderwithRsie |
| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 14:47 - Feb 27 by Sonofpugwash |
Yes,made that point sometime ago.Many tons of gold scattered around London vaults for safe keeping,same as the Autralians who own 74 tons of which 70 are in London.
China has in all 60.000 tons which includes The White Dragon familes who have been accumulating the "shiny poo" for centuries.It won't be a shooting war,it'll be a financial one.
I'm hearing that many ATMs are going down all over Europe,could happen here soon so would suggest getting some extra cash out just in case all you get is dust. |
In the detail of this from the FT....
https://www.ft.com/content/526ea75b-5b45-48d8-936d-dcc3cec102d8
...it says all the Russian central bank's gold is, unusually, not in London or NY but in Russia. View is that will stop us freezing it, on the other hand it's harder for them to sell it (but not impossible) |  | | |
| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 08:13 - Mar 1 with 4475 views | Ranger_Things |
| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 07:56 - Mar 1 by CiderwithRsie |
Maybe, it's not a thing I'd know about. As I say, I'm not a fan of Truss. |
Liz Truss’ actions, ridiculous comments and photoshoots dressed up as Thatcher are all about her big push to be leader of the Conservative Party and bugger all to do with policy. |  | | |
| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 08:52 - Mar 1 with 4418 views | JamesB1979 |
| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 07:01 - Mar 1 by Ranger_Things |
That’s not how it works Essex. Individuals can live anywhere in the world, stopping them travelling here and freezing their (and businesses) money and assets in this country is the punishment. The UK is Russia’s laundromat and bank. |
You can’t freeze assets or sanction people who have to legal connection to UK. The ones that aren’t on our list, can’t move their assets to UK, because their frozen. However, if there are people on the EU list that aren’t on ours and they should be called out. However, you can’t just compare the 2 numbers. | | | |
| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 09:05 - Mar 1 with 4376 views | nadera78 |
| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 08:52 - Mar 1 by JamesB1979 |
You can’t freeze assets or sanction people who have to legal connection to UK. The ones that aren’t on our list, can’t move their assets to UK, because their frozen. However, if there are people on the EU list that aren’t on ours and they should be called out. However, you can’t just compare the 2 numbers. |
On your first point, sanctions aren't simply about freezing or seizing assets the aim can also be to cripple them. For example, anyone put on a US sanctions list wouldn't be touched with a barge pole by any bank anywhere in the world that also has a presence in the USA. That's because that bank would find itself in huge trouble in the US, even if they only have a one-man office there. The sanctioned person, or company, ends up with a very small list of banks that would have anything to do with them, and then at increased cost and with people they ordinarily wouldn't wish to work with.
I haven't compared the lists produced by UK/EU/US but I imagine there are discrepancies. The UK announced a couple of sanctions early on, but it was a pitiful list. It's since been strengthened but I'd be very surprised if there aren't some people still missing. | | | |
| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 09:34 - Mar 1 with 4297 views | JamesB1979 |
| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 09:05 - Mar 1 by nadera78 |
On your first point, sanctions aren't simply about freezing or seizing assets the aim can also be to cripple them. For example, anyone put on a US sanctions list wouldn't be touched with a barge pole by any bank anywhere in the world that also has a presence in the USA. That's because that bank would find itself in huge trouble in the US, even if they only have a one-man office there. The sanctioned person, or company, ends up with a very small list of banks that would have anything to do with them, and then at increased cost and with people they ordinarily wouldn't wish to work with.
I haven't compared the lists produced by UK/EU/US but I imagine there are discrepancies. The UK announced a couple of sanctions early on, but it was a pitiful list. It's since been strengthened but I'd be very surprised if there aren't some people still missing. |
The people on the EU list who aren’t on the UK list won’t be able to open a bank account here either. | | | |
| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 14:42 - Mar 1 with 3957 views | GloryHunter |
TEXT
It is all circumstantial but there is growing evidence that Vladimir Putin could be suffering from a serious illness.
At least five factors point to suspicions that his horrendous decision to invade Ukraine could be underpinned not by his mental state, the effects of Covid isolation, or hubris, but by a physical condition that spurred him to gamble on a quick win.
1. Putin's appearance
The Russian president has appeared notably more bloated around the face and neck recently.
That has led to suggestions he may be undergoing treatment with steroids.
Side effects of steroids include increased risk of infection, like coughs and colds, and "mood and behavioural changes."
"Sometimes, when taken in higher doses, steroids can cause confusion or changes in thinking," according to Macmillan Cancer Support. "This can include having strange or frightening thoughts."
In November 2020 Mr Putin suffered an extended coughing fit during a televised meeting with his finance minister. The footage was later edited and the Kremlin said he was "absolutely fine".
According to Fiona Hill, the British former senior White House expert on Russia, Mr Putin is "not looking so great" at the moment.
Ms Hill, who has met Mr Putin more than once, said: "He’s been rather puffy-faced. We know that he has complained about having back issues. Even if it’s not something worse than that, it could be that he’s taking high doses of steroids, or there may be something else.
"There seems to be an urgency for this [invasion] that may be also driven by personal factors."
2. The Long Tables
People with weakened immune systems are at higher risk of contracting severe cases of coronavirus, and other infections.
That would include those taking immune-suppressing drugs.
There has been much speculation about why Mr Putin has engaged in such extreme social distancing.
Emmanuel Macron was forced to sit at the other end of a 13ft table.
During a televised meeting Mr Putin's own foreign minister Sergei Lavrov was also seated at the other end of an absurdly long table.
And at a meeting where he humiliated his spy chief Mr Putin's top security officials all had to sit at the other side of a giant marble chamber.
Covid cases have soared in Russia recently, but the extraordinary efforts to keep Mr Putin in a "bubble" go back many months.
Many of those entering his presence have been forced to quarantine in hotels for two weeks beforehand, including business leaders, politicians and staff.
There have also been reports of a tunnel leading to his office in which visitors are sprayed with disinfectant.
Meanwhile, Joe Biden, who is a decade older, has been huddling around a relatively small table in the Situation Room elbow-to-elbow with his advisers.
Mr Putin, 69, says he has taken the Sputnik vaccine, but it was not filmed.
His extreme measures to avoid the virus would make sense if he had an underlying condition.
But bizarrely, he did shake hands with - and sit right next to - an unvaccinated Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro a few weeks ago.
3. The Intelligence
Marco Rubio, the Republican senator, set a hare running at the weekend when he suggested "something is off" with Mr Putin.
Mr Rubio is no random internet conspiracy theorist, he is the senior Republican on the Senate Intelligence Committee.
As such, he sees classified intelligence, which he can't talk about.
However, he is at liberty to drop hints. And he has.
Mr Rubio said: "I wish I could share more, but for now, I can say it’s pretty obvious to many that something is off with Putin.
"He has always been a killer, but his problem now is different and significant."
Mr Rubio later expanded that Mr Putin "appears to have some neuro/physiological health issues."
He did not give details on what was informing his opinion.
There are growing suggestions that if the US does have intelligence that Mr Putin is sick, they should release it.
A former White House national security official told the Telegraph the US should "make it personal" and release anything it had on Mr Putin.
The French may also have suspicions. The assessment of a French official, following Mr Macron's marathon meeting with Mr Putin before the invasion, hinted at something.
The official was quoted as saying that Mr Putin was "not the same" as when Mr Macron met him two years earlier. He was more rigid and ideological and had, in some respects, "gone haywire".
There has also still been no firm answer as to why Mr Putin disappeared from public view for 10 days in 2015. Speculation about a health scare was dismissed at the time.
4. Russian academic claims Putin has Parkinson's disease and cancer
In November 2020 Professor Valery Solovei, a former historian at the Moscow State Institute of International Relations, was quoted as suggesting Mr Putin may have Parkinson's disease and cancer.
He also suggested that Mr Putin may be poised to quit in 2021 due to fears for his health.
At the time Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said it was “absolute nonsense” and “everything is fine with the president.”
Asked if Mr Putin was planning to step down in the near future, Mr Peskov said: “No”.
Prof Solovei resigned from the institute, where he was head of the public relations department, in 2019, saying "political pressure" was responsible for his departure.
He was later detained at an opposition protest in Moscow.
Peskov
Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Mr Putin was "fine" Credit: Reuters
5. Putin's accelerated timeline
In his mission to restore what he considers lost Russian land, Mr Putin had previously taken a long view.
In 2008 he invaded Georgia in support of the self-proclaimed republics of South Ossetia and Abkhazia.
Six years later, he annexed Crimea.
Under changes to the Russian constitution made in early 2021, he could remain president until 2036.
That would give him plenty of time for incremental land grabs, what the West might see as "minor incursions" punishable only with a slap on the wrist.
For those reasons many Putin watchers expected him to adopt "salami tactics," taking Ukraine "slice by slice" over a period of time.
They have been left puzzled as to why he would take such a gamble on capturing the whole of Ukraine, a country of 44 million people, in one go with a force military experts say was not enough.
It only increases the suspicion that, perhaps, his health meant he was running out of time. |  | | |
| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 16:00 - Mar 1 with 3791 views | Juzzie |
This feels like "Downfall" all over again. I just hope it has the same ending. |  | | |
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| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 16:35 - Mar 1 with 3719 views | Ranger_Things |
| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 08:52 - Mar 1 by JamesB1979 |
You can’t freeze assets or sanction people who have to legal connection to UK. The ones that aren’t on our list, can’t move their assets to UK, because their frozen. However, if there are people on the EU list that aren’t on ours and they should be called out. However, you can’t just compare the 2 numbers. |
Hi James,
Hope all is well with you.
This is from the gov. website:
“Financial sanctions in force in the UK may apply to individuals, entities and governments, who may be resident in the UK or abroad.”
Source: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/sanctions-embargoes-and-restrictions
It was Boris Johnson who said the UK would increase sanctions to match the EU so I don’t think it unfair for us to compare the 2. If anything as the UK is Russia’s dirty money laundry we should be leading the way in sanctions and asking other countries follow. However the Conservatives are in hock to the Russian oligarchs, so all they’ll do is talk tough but do f-all. | | | |
| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 16:56 - Mar 1 with 3654 views | Phildo |
| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 14:42 - Mar 1 by GloryHunter |
TEXT
It is all circumstantial but there is growing evidence that Vladimir Putin could be suffering from a serious illness.
At least five factors point to suspicions that his horrendous decision to invade Ukraine could be underpinned not by his mental state, the effects of Covid isolation, or hubris, but by a physical condition that spurred him to gamble on a quick win.
1. Putin's appearance
The Russian president has appeared notably more bloated around the face and neck recently.
That has led to suggestions he may be undergoing treatment with steroids.
Side effects of steroids include increased risk of infection, like coughs and colds, and "mood and behavioural changes."
"Sometimes, when taken in higher doses, steroids can cause confusion or changes in thinking," according to Macmillan Cancer Support. "This can include having strange or frightening thoughts."
In November 2020 Mr Putin suffered an extended coughing fit during a televised meeting with his finance minister. The footage was later edited and the Kremlin said he was "absolutely fine".
According to Fiona Hill, the British former senior White House expert on Russia, Mr Putin is "not looking so great" at the moment.
Ms Hill, who has met Mr Putin more than once, said: "He’s been rather puffy-faced. We know that he has complained about having back issues. Even if it’s not something worse than that, it could be that he’s taking high doses of steroids, or there may be something else.
"There seems to be an urgency for this [invasion] that may be also driven by personal factors."
2. The Long Tables
People with weakened immune systems are at higher risk of contracting severe cases of coronavirus, and other infections.
That would include those taking immune-suppressing drugs.
There has been much speculation about why Mr Putin has engaged in such extreme social distancing.
Emmanuel Macron was forced to sit at the other end of a 13ft table.
During a televised meeting Mr Putin's own foreign minister Sergei Lavrov was also seated at the other end of an absurdly long table.
And at a meeting where he humiliated his spy chief Mr Putin's top security officials all had to sit at the other side of a giant marble chamber.
Covid cases have soared in Russia recently, but the extraordinary efforts to keep Mr Putin in a "bubble" go back many months.
Many of those entering his presence have been forced to quarantine in hotels for two weeks beforehand, including business leaders, politicians and staff.
There have also been reports of a tunnel leading to his office in which visitors are sprayed with disinfectant.
Meanwhile, Joe Biden, who is a decade older, has been huddling around a relatively small table in the Situation Room elbow-to-elbow with his advisers.
Mr Putin, 69, says he has taken the Sputnik vaccine, but it was not filmed.
His extreme measures to avoid the virus would make sense if he had an underlying condition.
But bizarrely, he did shake hands with - and sit right next to - an unvaccinated Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro a few weeks ago.
3. The Intelligence
Marco Rubio, the Republican senator, set a hare running at the weekend when he suggested "something is off" with Mr Putin.
Mr Rubio is no random internet conspiracy theorist, he is the senior Republican on the Senate Intelligence Committee.
As such, he sees classified intelligence, which he can't talk about.
However, he is at liberty to drop hints. And he has.
Mr Rubio said: "I wish I could share more, but for now, I can say it’s pretty obvious to many that something is off with Putin.
"He has always been a killer, but his problem now is different and significant."
Mr Rubio later expanded that Mr Putin "appears to have some neuro/physiological health issues."
He did not give details on what was informing his opinion.
There are growing suggestions that if the US does have intelligence that Mr Putin is sick, they should release it.
A former White House national security official told the Telegraph the US should "make it personal" and release anything it had on Mr Putin.
The French may also have suspicions. The assessment of a French official, following Mr Macron's marathon meeting with Mr Putin before the invasion, hinted at something.
The official was quoted as saying that Mr Putin was "not the same" as when Mr Macron met him two years earlier. He was more rigid and ideological and had, in some respects, "gone haywire".
There has also still been no firm answer as to why Mr Putin disappeared from public view for 10 days in 2015. Speculation about a health scare was dismissed at the time.
4. Russian academic claims Putin has Parkinson's disease and cancer
In November 2020 Professor Valery Solovei, a former historian at the Moscow State Institute of International Relations, was quoted as suggesting Mr Putin may have Parkinson's disease and cancer.
He also suggested that Mr Putin may be poised to quit in 2021 due to fears for his health.
At the time Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said it was “absolute nonsense” and “everything is fine with the president.”
Asked if Mr Putin was planning to step down in the near future, Mr Peskov said: “No”.
Prof Solovei resigned from the institute, where he was head of the public relations department, in 2019, saying "political pressure" was responsible for his departure.
He was later detained at an opposition protest in Moscow.
Peskov
Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Mr Putin was "fine" Credit: Reuters
5. Putin's accelerated timeline
In his mission to restore what he considers lost Russian land, Mr Putin had previously taken a long view.
In 2008 he invaded Georgia in support of the self-proclaimed republics of South Ossetia and Abkhazia.
Six years later, he annexed Crimea.
Under changes to the Russian constitution made in early 2021, he could remain president until 2036.
That would give him plenty of time for incremental land grabs, what the West might see as "minor incursions" punishable only with a slap on the wrist.
For those reasons many Putin watchers expected him to adopt "salami tactics," taking Ukraine "slice by slice" over a period of time.
They have been left puzzled as to why he would take such a gamble on capturing the whole of Ukraine, a country of 44 million people, in one go with a force military experts say was not enough.
It only increases the suspicion that, perhaps, his health meant he was running out of time. |
Anthony Eden embarked on Suez - the greatest British post war diplomatic disaster- having been a lifelong highly cautious foreign policy expert because he was off his tits on painkillers after a botched operation so this stuff can happen. |  | | |
| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 17:51 - Mar 1 with 3517 views | JamesB1979 |
| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 16:35 - Mar 1 by Ranger_Things |
Hi James,
Hope all is well with you.
This is from the gov. website:
“Financial sanctions in force in the UK may apply to individuals, entities and governments, who may be resident in the UK or abroad.”
Source: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/sanctions-embargoes-and-restrictions
It was Boris Johnson who said the UK would increase sanctions to match the EU so I don’t think it unfair for us to compare the 2. If anything as the UK is Russia’s dirty money laundry we should be leading the way in sanctions and asking other countries follow. However the Conservatives are in hock to the Russian oligarchs, so all they’ll do is talk tough but do f-all. |
Not sure I understand your point. If you don’t have any assets in UK, why would we put sanctions on them. If there are people who are on EU list but NOT on UK list, then that should be called out. What’s point of putting a load of people on a list when they have nothing to do with us? You got to apply some thought to these things. You may be right but to just say you’ve got X number on one list and Y number on another list, is oversimplifying. | | | |
| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 19:29 - Mar 1 with 3352 views | Ranger_Things |
| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 17:51 - Mar 1 by JamesB1979 |
Not sure I understand your point. If you don’t have any assets in UK, why would we put sanctions on them. If there are people who are on EU list but NOT on UK list, then that should be called out. What’s point of putting a load of people on a list when they have nothing to do with us? You got to apply some thought to these things. You may be right but to just say you’ve got X number on one list and Y number on another list, is oversimplifying. |
It’s highly unlikely those individuals and companies wouldn’t have assets in the UK but if that was the case they would move some here in the future if the EU/US was closed to them. Coordinated sanctions are essential to hobble these people. They must have nowhere to hide. The US has sanctioned a number of Russians in the past but they have been able to continue washing their money and stashing assets over here. Most notably through Reese Moggs company Somerset Capital. | | | |
| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 19:49 - Mar 1 with 3284 views | JamesB1979 |
| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 19:29 - Mar 1 by Ranger_Things |
It’s highly unlikely those individuals and companies wouldn’t have assets in the UK but if that was the case they would move some here in the future if the EU/US was closed to them. Coordinated sanctions are essential to hobble these people. They must have nowhere to hide. The US has sanctioned a number of Russians in the past but they have been able to continue washing their money and stashing assets over here. Most notably through Reese Moggs company Somerset Capital. |
How can they move their assets here, if their assets are frozen? Sanctions are coordinated. Some fella on the EU list but not on our list, will not be able to open a bank account here. The KYC process to open a bank account here would discover that they are on EU sanction list. | | | |
| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 20:23 - Mar 1 with 3229 views | ted_hendrix |
I sincerely hope he Is ill, seriously ill.
I hope he suffers as much if not more than the people of Ukraine whom he has inflicted and continues to inflict war crimes upon.
Now I've written this here's hoping I don't get poisoned this Summer whilst strolling around the grounds of Salisbury Cathederal or nabbed by Putins cloak and dagger boys, I could end up in a Russian Gulag in a cell next to the unforunate Alexei Navalny.
I'm gonna look for a "Don't Get Well" card on the internet thing, If any body want's to go halves with me let me Know before I send it to the c unt.
Bastard. |  |
| My Father had a profound influence on me, he was a lunatic. |
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| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 20:37 - Mar 1 with 3169 views | JamesB1979 |
| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 20:23 - Mar 1 by ted_hendrix |
I sincerely hope he Is ill, seriously ill.
I hope he suffers as much if not more than the people of Ukraine whom he has inflicted and continues to inflict war crimes upon.
Now I've written this here's hoping I don't get poisoned this Summer whilst strolling around the grounds of Salisbury Cathederal or nabbed by Putins cloak and dagger boys, I could end up in a Russian Gulag in a cell next to the unforunate Alexei Navalny.
I'm gonna look for a "Don't Get Well" card on the internet thing, If any body want's to go halves with me let me Know before I send it to the c unt.
Bastard. |
I thought that Salisbury was a case of mistaken identity https://mobile.twitter.com/stevenperkins/status/1040213333947953158?ref_src=twsr | | | |
| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 21:22 - Mar 1 with 3045 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 16:35 - Mar 1 by Ranger_Things |
Hi James,
Hope all is well with you.
This is from the gov. website:
“Financial sanctions in force in the UK may apply to individuals, entities and governments, who may be resident in the UK or abroad.”
Source: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/sanctions-embargoes-and-restrictions
It was Boris Johnson who said the UK would increase sanctions to match the EU so I don’t think it unfair for us to compare the 2. If anything as the UK is Russia’s dirty money laundry we should be leading the way in sanctions and asking other countries follow. However the Conservatives are in hock to the Russian oligarchs, so all they’ll do is talk tough but do f-all. |
Keep pushing your agenda, it’s very educational as I foolishly thought Putin was responsible for invading Ukraine, not the Conservative Party. |  | | |
| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 21:45 - Mar 1 with 2968 views | Ranger_Things |
| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 21:22 - Mar 1 by Ned_Kennedys |
Keep pushing your agenda, it’s very educational as I foolishly thought Putin was responsible for invading Ukraine, not the Conservative Party. |
It's not for me to say whether you are a fool but you obviously didn't read, or perhaps understand Loftboy's original post.
"Should the worst happen and the Russians invade, I suspect that many rich Russians in the UK will be part of the proposed sanctions, could this affect our foes down the road?"
I'd love to see the Government sanction Abramovich, every other corrupt Russian and cog in the Putin machine but I believe they have been corrupted and will bottle it. How about you? [Post edited 1 Mar 2022 21:47]
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| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 07:49 - Mar 2 with 2728 views | stevec |
| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 21:45 - Mar 1 by Ranger_Things |
It's not for me to say whether you are a fool but you obviously didn't read, or perhaps understand Loftboy's original post.
"Should the worst happen and the Russians invade, I suspect that many rich Russians in the UK will be part of the proposed sanctions, could this affect our foes down the road?"
I'd love to see the Government sanction Abramovich, every other corrupt Russian and cog in the Putin machine but I believe they have been corrupted and will bottle it. How about you? [Post edited 1 Mar 2022 21:47]
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I see the Daily Mail and it’s readers have already raised £2 mill for a Ukrainian Refugee Fund.
You got to admire that? |  | | |
| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 08:36 - Mar 2 with 2612 views | dolcelatte |
| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 07:49 - Mar 2 by stevec |
I see the Daily Mail and it’s readers have already raised £2 mill for a Ukrainian Refugee Fund.
You got to admire that? |
They just thought they were donating to keep them out of the UK. |  |
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| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 08:47 - Mar 2 with 2590 views | Esox_Lucius |
| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 21:22 - Mar 1 by Ned_Kennedys |
Keep pushing your agenda, it’s very educational as I foolishly thought Putin was responsible for invading Ukraine, not the Conservative Party. |
Have a read of the Russian Report to see a bit of insight into just how much the Russians have controlled the UK politics and the Tory party.
https://isc.independent.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/CCS207_CCS0221966010-0 |  |
| The grass is always greener. |
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| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 08:51 - Mar 2 with 2550 views | Ranger_Things |
| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 07:49 - Mar 2 by stevec |
I see the Daily Mail and it’s readers have already raised £2 mill for a Ukrainian Refugee Fund.
You got to admire that? |
Of course but what’s that got to do with the price of fish? | | | |
| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 10:11 - Mar 2 with 2426 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 21:45 - Mar 1 by Ranger_Things |
It's not for me to say whether you are a fool but you obviously didn't read, or perhaps understand Loftboy's original post.
"Should the worst happen and the Russians invade, I suspect that many rich Russians in the UK will be part of the proposed sanctions, could this affect our foes down the road?"
I'd love to see the Government sanction Abramovich, every other corrupt Russian and cog in the Putin machine but I believe they have been corrupted and will bottle it. How about you? [Post edited 1 Mar 2022 21:47]
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Name calling is a bit sad isn’t it?
This thread is clearly the place to talk about the whole Ukraine crisis, not just your issues with the Conservatives. Deal with it. [Post edited 2 Mar 2022 10:11]
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| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 10:30 - Mar 2 with 2370 views | nadera78 |
Anyway, Abramovich is clearly flogging his UK assets before he gets named in any sanctions. Houses up for sale and now Chelsea being offered to all and sundry. Apparently they owe him something between £1.5 and £2billion. At the lower end, that means they've lost an average of £80millon every year of his ownership. God knows what sort of value you'd place on a business that loses that sort of money.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/mar/02/chelsea-swiss-billionaire-hansj | | | |
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