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Where would you go? on 18:01 - Oct 18 by blackdogblue
Dicken Green - Closed now a resteraunt anything on drake st further up than Xanadu’s (gone), Navigation, Dick Whittington, Last orders etc all gone any pub on Belfield, printers arms - gone three ships - gone highland laddie now a take away that Irish bar Murphy’s - gone Could rattle another 10 paces at least within 15-20 mins walk from the bus station as well in cba
Not much left to be honest
Not exactly great pubs were they, people stopped going in coz most were shyte
I do find it sad that so many pubs have gone, I doubt any of my favourite haunts are left now, well most I know are gone, sawyers, wagon and horses, baileys, industry, Gale, Phoenix, Britannia, enteistle, the manor, and that pub near Asda, real ale pub with outside toilets, forget the name.
Pubs, pool, 9 card, crib, darts, football etc were a 7 day a week entertainment (I drove most nights) and for various reasons this has been destroyed, along with the community it attracted.
Still at least now you can get 12 cans for the price of a pint and a taxi and get leathered and have a fag where you want, anyone would think the government wanted this!
Merry Monk?
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Where would you go? on 18:52 - Oct 18 with 1820 views
Not exactly great pubs were they, people stopped going in coz most were shyte
You'd think that'd be pretty obvious wouldn't you, but some people seem to need the bleeding obvious explaining to them
You seem to get around the pubs in the town centre and the wider borough as well as anyone on here, and it's good to hear balanced views being put forward instead of the usual negativity towards the town that so many have been brought up with they just can't adjust their mindset to the positive changes that are taking place
Where would you go? on 18:48 - Oct 18 by nordenblue
Merry Monk?
Yep Merry Monk, again a more real ale pub now a solicitors.. Spread Eagle another..
There was a time u could walk down from the Dog & if you stopped in every pub on the way down to Rochdale u would be pi$$ed by the time you got there. There were 2 pubs at the lights where the laddie used to be, the wool pack for dark memories of a den of iniquity itself, another before JR Pizza on the same side? all gone.. Sandyman is the font of all knowledge of local pubs past & present, my Grandad 😂😂
You'd think that'd be pretty obvious wouldn't you, but some people seem to need the bleeding obvious explaining to them
You seem to get around the pubs in the town centre and the wider borough as well as anyone on here, and it's good to hear balanced views being put forward instead of the usual negativity towards the town that so many have been brought up with they just can't adjust their mindset to the positive changes that are taking place
Really? Let’s cause an argument in an empty house then...
What “improvements” - opening up the River? Caused flooding chaos..
New Cinema? - We have one?
Next? - one at Elk Mill & the Rock
metro link? - reported on MEN, most crime area committed between Rochdale & Oldham (one person smoking a crack pipe...
Why is the riverside development changing our lives for the better??
You'd think that'd be pretty obvious wouldn't you, but some people seem to need the bleeding obvious explaining to them
You seem to get around the pubs in the town centre and the wider borough as well as anyone on here, and it's good to hear balanced views being put forward instead of the usual negativity towards the town that so many have been brought up with they just can't adjust their mindset to the positive changes that are taking place
Pub closures are not unique to Rochdale. It’s a UK wide issue caused by high business rates, tax on alcohol and deep discounting by supermarkets. That said, minimum pricing in Scotland hasn’t forced punters back into the pub in droves.
As for the town centre, improvements are clearly under way and I reckon I notice and appreciate them more as a visitor to the town now, rather than still living there. However, areas still look like they did years ago, if not worse. Find me an industrial town that has a different story, though. I think Rochdale’s is a very British story rather than a very Rochdale one.
I made a rule never to discuss politics on here, so I’ll leave it at that.
I know Rochdale is not unique regarding this, one thing I noticed on my walk from the station to town this afternoon was the litter. Such a shame because of the impression it gives.
'Only happy when you've got it often makes you miss the journey'
Where would you go? on 18:40 - Oct 22 by James1980
I know Rochdale is not unique regarding this, one thing I noticed on my walk from the station to town this afternoon was the litter. Such a shame because of the impression it gives.
Turn around and get back on the next train home before you start "Harping on" about ginnels,barm cakes and Ow doing it to people you don't even know
Run James,run! It's still not to late to save yourself
bit rich coming from Nottingham were the town hero was a thief
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Taking from the rich and giving to the poor shows just what a charitable city Nottingham is,I doubt that Rochdale was even a couple of mud huts in the 12th century
I don`t think there is such a thing as a shite pub. People make the pub what it is, so if the clientele are rough, then the pub is likely to be.
Spotland Rd has been raped of all its establishments. Golden Ball, Carters Rest, Jolly Waggoner (Funnies), The Victoria, The Albert,Bowling Green and Highland Laddie have all gone and probably more that I can`t remember.
You could say the same about most roads leading in and out of the town and the majority have gone because of smoking bans, clamp down on drink driving and the economy.
I would expect the same can be said about most towns in the north of England, but Rochdale does seem to have been hit harder than most.
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Where would you go? on 13:33 - Oct 23 with 1170 views
I don`t think there is such a thing as a shite pub. People make the pub what it is, so if the clientele are rough, then the pub is likely to be.
Spotland Rd has been raped of all its establishments. Golden Ball, Carters Rest, Jolly Waggoner (Funnies), The Victoria, The Albert,Bowling Green and Highland Laddie have all gone and probably more that I can`t remember.
You could say the same about most roads leading in and out of the town and the majority have gone because of smoking bans, clamp down on drink driving and the economy.
I would expect the same can be said about most towns in the north of England, but Rochdale does seem to have been hit harder than most.
I suspect the definition of a shyte pub that rr referred to would be much more in line with "one that people stop using so it's forced to close due to lack of income". It's certainly a definition that i'd suggest
There may well be an example of a thriving pub making a lucrative living for its landlord/brewery closing down, but i'd be grateful if you'd point it out to me
The usual reasons are mentioned above as to why pub culture has declined - smoking ban, drink driving clampdown, cheaper supermarket beer etc but few people recall how the government a few years smashed the tied house culture which was used by the big brewery companies. It forced them to sell a lot of their tied houses with the result that a lot of them were purchased by hedge fund backed companies like Punch Taverns. It's all about profit with these people; if a new tenant starts making money and runs a successful pub they'll automatically raise the rent accordingly. There's no incentive to run a successful pub under these conditions and leads to a rapid turnover of publicans.
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Where would you go? on 16:31 - Oct 23 with 1104 views
The usual reasons are mentioned above as to why pub culture has declined - smoking ban, drink driving clampdown, cheaper supermarket beer etc but few people recall how the government a few years smashed the tied house culture which was used by the big brewery companies. It forced them to sell a lot of their tied houses with the result that a lot of them were purchased by hedge fund backed companies like Punch Taverns. It's all about profit with these people; if a new tenant starts making money and runs a successful pub they'll automatically raise the rent accordingly. There's no incentive to run a successful pub under these conditions and leads to a rapid turnover of publicans.
The tied house culture needed smashing, and has led to the superb range of quality ales on sale now in the new types of establishment, which includes decent grub being served and a much more welcoming atmosphere for all sections of society
Local breweries have established a foothold in the market and its a joy to sample the ever-changing range available now; this wouldn't have been possible before. Business, for those pubs able to cater for a variety of tastes, is booming
I was really pleased to see a group of middle-aged Asian women call into the Regal Moon a couple of weeks ago, get their coffee cups and enjoy the refills. They were dressed in their traditional garb. No-one bothered them (it was mid-afternoon) and they had a chat, a laugh and then left with a smile on their faces. So did i. It felt like this is how cultural integration should be
They wouldn't have gone within a million miles of the types of establishment referred to above as examples of "sad to see them close"
My wife and her mates also have no problem at all in going to the Regal Moon and other JD Wetherspoon pubs for breakfast and those refill coffees. Three cheers for Tim Martin in that respect! She would never have dared go in a pub on her own when I first met her. That's a sign of a changing, and a more enlightened, society.
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Where would you go? on 20:39 - Oct 30 with 936 views
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