| Meeting at the club 3rd Jan 10:12 - Jan 4 with 19085 views | ColDale |
https://www.daletrust.co.uk/2019/01/meeting-at-the-club-3rd-jan/
Just to add that there was nothing that could not be brought up. It was an very open and honest meeting as I wrote, and I think I brought up most of the issues / concerns from here over the last few days. If I've not covered it, it was down to time constraints (meeting took close to 2 hrs) and should not be seen as being evidence of proof, so apologies to the Biggins Conspiracists. |  | | |  |
| Meeting at the club 3rd Jan on 20:58 - Jan 4 with 2291 views | foreverhopefulDale |
| Meeting at the club 3rd Jan on 13:23 - Jan 4 by judd |
No, it's still there. |
Any dogshit there? |  |
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| Meeting at the club 3rd Jan on 21:31 - Jan 4 with 2204 views | roccydaleian |
| Meeting at the club 3rd Jan on 20:53 - Jan 4 by TVOS1907 |
After your ‘Access All Areas’ lanyard has been moved aside, no doubt. |
“Logistics” lanyard, and access all areas pass. Neither of which I possess. |  | | |
| Meeting at the club 3rd Jan on 21:35 - Jan 4 with 2196 views | roccydaleian |
| Meeting at the club 3rd Jan on 20:44 - Jan 4 by rochdaleriddler |
Judging by a lot of comments on twitter and Facebook a lot of people aren’t buying the new harmony , and definately not the extension of Norman’s deal, and McGahey’s sale. |
Who’s said the current situation is harmonious? | | | |
| Meeting at the club 3rd Jan on 21:43 - Jan 4 with 2178 views | TVOS1907 |
| Meeting at the club 3rd Jan on 21:31 - Jan 4 by roccydaleian |
“Logistics” lanyard, and access all areas pass. Neither of which I possess. |
Sounds like someone is lying again... |  |
| When I was your age, I used to enjoy the odd game of tennis. Or was it golf? |
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| Meeting at the club 3rd Jan on 22:13 - Jan 4 with 2075 views | rochdaleriddler |
| Meeting at the club 3rd Jan on 21:35 - Jan 4 by roccydaleian |
Who’s said the current situation is harmonious? |
People suggesting that bottomley’s assurances are the end to the matter and anyone saying different is a trouble causer ? |  |
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| Meeting at the club 3rd Jan on 22:22 - Jan 4 with 2042 views | James1980 |
Is it true Hill is currently watching The Star Sixes on Sky considering who he can offer a contract?
I do hope folk know this was a joke a bad one maybe but a joke [Post edited 4 Jan 2019 23:05]
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| Meeting at the club 3rd Jan on 23:03 - Jan 4 with 1972 views | dalenumber2 |
Thanks for feeding back Col - nice to have some proactivity [Post edited 4 Jan 2019 23:03]
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| Meeting at the club 3rd Jan on 23:11 - Jan 4 with 1955 views | D_Alien |
| Meeting at the club 3rd Jan on 22:13 - Jan 4 by rochdaleriddler |
People suggesting that bottomley’s assurances are the end to the matter and anyone saying different is a trouble causer ? |
Just for the record, i posted about the manager's presence at training. DB's comment about training being at the heart of what the manager does, rather than being 100% present seemed fair enough - it's not necessary to be there all the time, and only a troublemaker would see it that way
Does anyone disagree with that? If so, say why
Instead, both you and alderleydale have wilfully misinterpreted the post. All it takes is the ability to read without prejudice |  |
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| Meeting at the club 3rd Jan on 23:18 - Jan 4 with 1916 views | rochdaleriddler |
| Meeting at the club 3rd Jan on 23:11 - Jan 4 by D_Alien |
Just for the record, i posted about the manager's presence at training. DB's comment about training being at the heart of what the manager does, rather than being 100% present seemed fair enough - it's not necessary to be there all the time, and only a troublemaker would see it that way
Does anyone disagree with that? If so, say why
Instead, both you and alderleydale have wilfully misinterpreted the post. All it takes is the ability to read without prejudice |
Not really, ‘ at the heart’ doesn’t really mean anything . I’m not wilfully misreading anything, more just stating that people seem to just accept what a director, previously subject to much ire onhere says, without any reservations. | |
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| Meeting at the club 3rd Jan on 23:23 - Jan 4 with 1903 views | ColDale |
| Meeting at the club 3rd Jan on 23:18 - Jan 4 by rochdaleriddler |
Not really, ‘ at the heart’ doesn’t really mean anything . I’m not wilfully misreading anything, more just stating that people seem to just accept what a director, previously subject to much ire onhere says, without any reservations. |
Blame that on my writing rather any mystery about the response. I asked about Hill not being at training and that idea was firmly rejected. | | | |
| Meeting at the club 3rd Jan on 23:26 - Jan 4 with 1896 views | fitzochris |
| Meeting at the club 3rd Jan on 23:23 - Jan 4 by ColDale |
Blame that on my writing rather any mystery about the response. I asked about Hill not being at training and that idea was firmly rejected. |
If Bottomley is telling the truth, someone has an agenda against Hill. |  |
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| Meeting at the club 3rd Jan on 23:28 - Jan 4 with 1893 views | D_Alien |
| Meeting at the club 3rd Jan on 23:18 - Jan 4 by rochdaleriddler |
Not really, ‘ at the heart’ doesn’t really mean anything . I’m not wilfully misreading anything, more just stating that people seem to just accept what a director, previously subject to much ire onhere says, without any reservations. |
Training being at the heart of what a manager does means a great deal, actually, if you'd just care to think about what Hill has achieved with dozens of players since 2006, including at Barnsley
On the other hand, never missing a training session means f*ck all - see my comment about 'presenteeism'
If the implication is that i'd simply accepted what DB said, that's just nonsense as anyone who'd participated in this forum would know
The only reason for wilfully misinterpreting the post is to cause trouble. Carry on... | |
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| Meeting at the club 3rd Jan on 23:42 - Jan 4 with 1843 views | judd |
| Meeting at the club 3rd Jan on 23:26 - Jan 4 by fitzochris |
If Bottomley is telling the truth, someone has an agenda against Hill. |
Not oft that I misread stuff, but I'm thinking letts leave it until the forum (incidentally called for on this MB and not at the behest of the board. They cannot have a monopoly on ideas). Cols positivity lead should be respected.
I would hope that the continued presence of Graham Rawlinson on the board is gratefully acknowledged as a continuation of a successful board, together with Andrew Kelly rejoining and bringing his experience of having the club at the preferred end of the league table.
An opportunity for the new board members to enhance their credibility in real terms and also for the new Chief Executive to embellish the business acumen endorsement of the new chairmans statement supporting the appointment. Put any doubters to bed, sort of thing. |  |
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| Meeting at the club 3rd Jan on 23:47 - Jan 4 with 1826 views | D_Alien |
| Meeting at the club 3rd Jan on 23:42 - Jan 4 by judd |
Not oft that I misread stuff, but I'm thinking letts leave it until the forum (incidentally called for on this MB and not at the behest of the board. They cannot have a monopoly on ideas). Cols positivity lead should be respected.
I would hope that the continued presence of Graham Rawlinson on the board is gratefully acknowledged as a continuation of a successful board, together with Andrew Kelly rejoining and bringing his experience of having the club at the preferred end of the league table.
An opportunity for the new board members to enhance their credibility in real terms and also for the new Chief Executive to embellish the business acumen endorsement of the new chairmans statement supporting the appointment. Put any doubters to bed, sort of thing. |
Doubters will doubt, no doubt, whatever happens
As for putting things to bed, they'd simply try to debunk the idea | |
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| Meeting at the club 3rd Jan on 23:57 - Jan 4 with 1776 views | fitzochris |
| Meeting at the club 3rd Jan on 23:42 - Jan 4 by judd |
Not oft that I misread stuff, but I'm thinking letts leave it until the forum (incidentally called for on this MB and not at the behest of the board. They cannot have a monopoly on ideas). Cols positivity lead should be respected.
I would hope that the continued presence of Graham Rawlinson on the board is gratefully acknowledged as a continuation of a successful board, together with Andrew Kelly rejoining and bringing his experience of having the club at the preferred end of the league table.
An opportunity for the new board members to enhance their credibility in real terms and also for the new Chief Executive to embellish the business acumen endorsement of the new chairmans statement supporting the appointment. Put any doubters to bed, sort of thing. |
I’ll reiterate to the messageboard that these rumours, accusations, whatever we wish to call them, are not being made up by people who post on here.
I’m not anti Keith Hill in the slightest. I think he needs to give himself a damn good shake, but that’s by the by. I don’t want to hear negative shit about him, so if it’s disproved, I’m happier for it.
I’m also happy to see how things pan out from here in a wider sense. I’ve no vendetta against any individual on the board either. All I know is what I’m told and I’m happy for it to be disproved. | |
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| Meeting at the club 3rd Jan on 00:05 - Jan 5 with 1755 views | judd |
| Meeting at the club 3rd Jan on 23:57 - Jan 4 by fitzochris |
I’ll reiterate to the messageboard that these rumours, accusations, whatever we wish to call them, are not being made up by people who post on here.
I’m not anti Keith Hill in the slightest. I think he needs to give himself a damn good shake, but that’s by the by. I don’t want to hear negative shit about him, so if it’s disproved, I’m happier for it.
I’m also happy to see how things pan out from here in a wider sense. I’ve no vendetta against any individual on the board either. All I know is what I’m told and I’m happy for it to be disproved. |
Well said, perfectly expressed.
I meant to reply to Cols plea for us to attend the forum and embrace the positivity.
Apologies for any misunderstanding | |
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| Meeting at the club 3rd Jan on 00:09 - Jan 5 with 1746 views | fitzochris |
| Meeting at the club 3rd Jan on 00:05 - Jan 5 by judd |
Well said, perfectly expressed.
I meant to reply to Cols plea for us to attend the forum and embrace the positivity.
Apologies for any misunderstanding |
None at all. | |
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| Meeting at the club 3rd Jan on 00:55 - Jan 5 with 1684 views | Shun |
| Meeting at the club 3rd Jan on 23:11 - Jan 4 by D_Alien |
Just for the record, i posted about the manager's presence at training. DB's comment about training being at the heart of what the manager does, rather than being 100% present seemed fair enough - it's not necessary to be there all the time, and only a troublemaker would see it that way
Does anyone disagree with that? If so, say why
Instead, both you and alderleydale have wilfully misinterpreted the post. All it takes is the ability to read without prejudice |
I appreciate what you’re saying, but I’d take exception to the manager not being at every training session. If he isn’t there it reeks of arrogance and does little to foster the Team Rochdale image he publicly wants to portray. My job and what it entails is at the heart of what my manager does, but I’d be aggrieved if my colleagues and I turned up every day and she didn’t.
I’m pleased Bottomley’s rebuked any suggestion of it, although whether he’s lying or fitzo’s suspicion that someone might have an agenda against Hill is right is yet to be seen. |  | | |
| Meeting at the club 3rd Jan on 01:20 - Jan 5 with 1650 views | D_Alien |
| Meeting at the club 3rd Jan on 00:55 - Jan 5 by Shun |
I appreciate what you’re saying, but I’d take exception to the manager not being at every training session. If he isn’t there it reeks of arrogance and does little to foster the Team Rochdale image he publicly wants to portray. My job and what it entails is at the heart of what my manager does, but I’d be aggrieved if my colleagues and I turned up every day and she didn’t.
I’m pleased Bottomley’s rebuked any suggestion of it, although whether he’s lying or fitzo’s suspicion that someone might have an agenda against Hill is right is yet to be seen. |
Must admit, i'm surprised at that
As per my first post, manager's have other responsibilities. If, for instance, a player was being brought into the club and for the deal to go through, the manager had to be at another venue, are you seriously suggesting that having established an efficient training regime he couldn't allow the assistant manager to oversee a particular session?
Just "being there" isn't the be all and end all. The current players might'nt know why the manager was absent - confidentiality being required - but might misinterpret his absence and then tittle tattle takes over
It's always going to be a question of priorities where the manager is at any given time, surely that's not difficult to understand? Why would it "reek of arrogance"?
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| Meeting at the club 3rd Jan on 01:25 - Jan 5 with 1630 views | sweetcorn |
| Meeting at the club 3rd Jan on 01:20 - Jan 5 by D_Alien |
Must admit, i'm surprised at that
As per my first post, manager's have other responsibilities. If, for instance, a player was being brought into the club and for the deal to go through, the manager had to be at another venue, are you seriously suggesting that having established an efficient training regime he couldn't allow the assistant manager to oversee a particular session?
Just "being there" isn't the be all and end all. The current players might'nt know why the manager was absent - confidentiality being required - but might misinterpret his absence and then tittle tattle takes over
It's always going to be a question of priorities where the manager is at any given time, surely that's not difficult to understand? Why would it "reek of arrogance"?
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Got to say i agree with you on this one.. obviously it would be a problem if hill was randomly missing training whilst off doing some leisure activities, but if he’s working for the club on something else, im sure the coaches can be trusted, that surely is after all what they are there for? |  |
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| Meeting at the club 3rd Jan on 01:35 - Jan 5 with 1618 views | Shun |
Absolutely, he’d have to miss training sessions for other duties such as signing players - that’s a given and I wouldn’t expect anything else. But what was implied by the recent rumours was that Hill was missing training sessions with some regularity and for no good reason. I don’t believe that’s acceptable in a workplace, least of all one where the concept of togetherness is so important. | | | |
| Meeting at the club 3rd Jan on 01:43 - Jan 5 with 1608 views | sweetcorn |
| Meeting at the club 3rd Jan on 01:35 - Jan 5 by Shun |
Absolutely, he’d have to miss training sessions for other duties such as signing players - that’s a given and I wouldn’t expect anything else. But what was implied by the recent rumours was that Hill was missing training sessions with some regularity and for no good reason. I don’t believe that’s acceptable in a workplace, least of all one where the concept of togetherness is so important. |
See i’m not privy to whats going on and i’m trying to avoid most of these rumours, as we appear to get these ITK posters who want to rock the boat at least once a year since colemans reign.
If he’s just giving training a miss for the crack, then something of course needs to be done about it.. | |
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| Meeting at the club 3rd Jan on 08:51 - Jan 5 with 1428 views | NorthernDale |
One of the biggest concerns is communication, in that once we were told if somebody was out due to injury, the nature of the injury and time he would be missing. Now it is like the a state secret. If they explain that the club is looking to bring in experienced recruits and why people have been allowed to leave, but it is down to the fans to gossip, speculate and spread rumours based on hear say from some one connected to the club or a player.
This lack of openness and communication is creating a disconnect between the fans and the club we love. | | | |
| Meeting at the club 3rd Jan on 09:05 - Jan 5 with 1377 views | rochdaleriddler |
| Meeting at the club 3rd Jan on 23:28 - Jan 4 by D_Alien |
Training being at the heart of what a manager does means a great deal, actually, if you'd just care to think about what Hill has achieved with dozens of players since 2006, including at Barnsley
On the other hand, never missing a training session means f*ck all - see my comment about 'presenteeism'
If the implication is that i'd simply accepted what DB said, that's just nonsense as anyone who'd participated in this forum would know
The only reason for wilfully misinterpreting the post is to cause trouble. Carry on... |
So you now know that everyone on here knows you accepted what DB said, but maybe you have reservations. Ok | |
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| Meeting at the club 3rd Jan on 09:16 - Jan 5 with 1354 views | D_Alien |
| Meeting at the club 3rd Jan on 09:05 - Jan 5 by rochdaleriddler |
So you now know that everyone on here knows you accepted what DB said, but maybe you have reservations. Ok |
There's a sensible discussion going on here, riddler
Join in if you want, or continue trolling | |
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