| Women only train carriages? 11:36 - Aug 23 with 15524 views | Highjack |
As we know, all men are opportunistic sex attackers who are unable to set eyes on or be in close proximity to a female before becoming overcome with lust and jumping on her in a fit of rampant gropeage whilst making noises like Sid James in the carry on films. So the Labour Party have come up with a solution. Woman only carriages!
I think it's a fantastic idea as it will protect us men from being arrested for sexual assault. They have trialled this in other countries and it's been a raging success. If it works here plans are already in the pipeline to extend the scheme to child only carriages to protect them from paedophiles and OAP carriages to protect everyone else from the smell.
A statement from the architect of the plan said "This plan will cut sexual assaults on trains by 100%. The current strategy of identifying, arresting and prosecuting the scumbags who assault women clearly isn't working. Here at the Labour Party we feel that treating all men as rapists who can't control themselves and segregating them from all women forever is the most proportionate response to this issue" |  |
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| Women only train carriages? on 18:27 - Aug 24 with 1312 views | Flashberryjack |
| Women only train carriages? on 18:09 - Aug 24 by Highjack |
Yes such as sitting around discussing the various dimensions of hundreds of willies, and attempting to prove the hypothesis that there is a correlation between length, girth, and the jokes told by the owners of said willies.
Future research may include the impact of testicular sizeage in the equation if they receive enough funding. |
The problem isn't that men's willies are to small, it's women's f*nnies are to big. |  |
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| Women only train carriages? on 19:14 - Aug 24 with 1272 views | Jack_Meoff |
| Women only train carriages? on 16:27 - Aug 24 by Highjack |
The silliest (and perhaps most serious) thing for me is you actually have a member of our elected parliament coming up with this shyte. I believe he's a member of the shadow cabinet, although during the time it's taken me to write this post he's probably been sac.... forced to resign. They do like a reshuffle in the Labour Party. Three reshuffles a day means everyone gets a chance and nobody misses out. That's true equality.
There's one thing having sjw idiots on Twitter and planetswans endorsing this crap, but when it's a bloke who has a serious chance of being in government in the next few years it becomes rather worrying.
I have no doubt that lots and lots of women have been the victims of inappropriate touching/behaviour on trains and that's f ucking awful but then trains are not unique in that aspect. You will get pervy scumbags in pubs, clubs, shops, football stadiums etc. Segregating men and women is not the answer. And this MP is a f ucking idiot for suggesting it is and we should all point and laugh at him and make it completely clear how much of an idiot he is. |
Kinell mind, hyperbole alert.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41020179
He told PoliticsHome that women-only carriages - which have been tested in countries including Japan, Brazil and Mexico - could create a "safe space".
Later, he told the BBC's Victoria Derbyshire show: "I'm not saying we should go down this road at all, I'm merely suggesting that we consult on it.
"If there is support for it, then providing an additional carriage to provide that safe space for people if they wanted it, offering that choice I think is worth looking at."
He's not suggesting segregation is he - merely a consultation on an additional carriage. A consultation isn't a policy suggestion. If it turns out to be unfeasible, then surely a consultation will reveal that.
The way some articles are worded are utterly disingenuous. For example:
http://metro.co.uk/2017/08/22/labour-mp-brings-back-women-only-train-carriage-id
Which states: 'A Labour MP has suggested women-only carriages should be introduced to combat sex attacks on trains.'
No he f*cking hasn't. The article then goes on to say,' It would be worth consulting about it. It was pooh-poohed (when Jeremy Corbyn suggested it), but these statistics seem to indicate there is some merit in examining that.'
And the mad thing? Whether or not it's a good idea, it's at least trying to address a clear problem. The article also goes on to say, 'Stats revealed by the BBC in July showed sexual offences on trains had increased by 650 in the last five years and 1,448 were reported to police in 2016-17.'
That's f*cking hideous, as is Lisa's post 'I don't know of any woman in London who at some point or another has not been groped on public transport. Not one.' It's just not good enough. I also agree that everyone should be safe during a train journey.
This turned out longer than expected. Clearly I'm some kind of sjw snowflake. Whatever that is.
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| Women only train carriages? on 19:59 - Aug 24 with 1247 views | waynekerr55 |
| Women only train carriages? on 19:14 - Aug 24 by Jack_Meoff |
Kinell mind, hyperbole alert.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41020179
He told PoliticsHome that women-only carriages - which have been tested in countries including Japan, Brazil and Mexico - could create a "safe space".
Later, he told the BBC's Victoria Derbyshire show: "I'm not saying we should go down this road at all, I'm merely suggesting that we consult on it.
"If there is support for it, then providing an additional carriage to provide that safe space for people if they wanted it, offering that choice I think is worth looking at."
He's not suggesting segregation is he - merely a consultation on an additional carriage. A consultation isn't a policy suggestion. If it turns out to be unfeasible, then surely a consultation will reveal that.
The way some articles are worded are utterly disingenuous. For example:
http://metro.co.uk/2017/08/22/labour-mp-brings-back-women-only-train-carriage-id
Which states: 'A Labour MP has suggested women-only carriages should be introduced to combat sex attacks on trains.'
No he f*cking hasn't. The article then goes on to say,' It would be worth consulting about it. It was pooh-poohed (when Jeremy Corbyn suggested it), but these statistics seem to indicate there is some merit in examining that.'
And the mad thing? Whether or not it's a good idea, it's at least trying to address a clear problem. The article also goes on to say, 'Stats revealed by the BBC in July showed sexual offences on trains had increased by 650 in the last five years and 1,448 were reported to police in 2016-17.'
That's f*cking hideous, as is Lisa's post 'I don't know of any woman in London who at some point or another has not been groped on public transport. Not one.' It's just not good enough. I also agree that everyone should be safe during a train journey.
This turned out longer than expected. Clearly I'm some kind of sjw snowflake. Whatever that is.
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Well Mr JMO , logic would decree that the costs of such a scheme would be similar to increasing rail staff or deploying BTP. It doesn't need some half baked consultation to come to that conclusion.
But yes, I agree that you and Lisa are bang on that it is fûcking disgraceful that females are being groped in 2017 |  |
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| Women only train carriages? on 20:15 - Aug 24 with 1232 views | Jack_Meoff |
| Women only train carriages? on 19:59 - Aug 24 by waynekerr55 |
Well Mr JMO , logic would decree that the costs of such a scheme would be similar to increasing rail staff or deploying BTP. It doesn't need some half baked consultation to come to that conclusion.
But yes, I agree that you and Lisa are bang on that it is fûcking disgraceful that females are being groped in 2017 |
Well then Mr Kerr me ol' mucker, doesn't that swing the pendulum back to the issue of private rail companies and the fact that it would seem that profit is more important than passenger safety? Or is that a separate conversation? | |
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| Women only train carriages? on 20:19 - Aug 24 with 1225 views | Highjack |
| Women only train carriages? on 20:15 - Aug 24 by Jack_Meoff |
Well then Mr Kerr me ol' mucker, doesn't that swing the pendulum back to the issue of private rail companies and the fact that it would seem that profit is more important than passenger safety? Or is that a separate conversation? |
Do you think that perverts would be less likely to grope women if the rail service was nationalised? | |
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| Women only train carriages? on 20:21 - Aug 24 with 1223 views | dailew |
| Women only train carriages? on 19:59 - Aug 23 by londonlisa2001 |
I'd laugh.
There's quite a difference between making jokes about men or women and thinking sexual predators are funny.
And equality has not been tipped on its head. Women on average still earn less than men for doing the same or equivalent jobs. Women are still underrepresented at boardroom level. Women are still at a disadvantage when it comes to everyday economics and political (in the wider sense) representation.
Your nonsense about buying women drinks etc is just that. Nonsense. I have bought many men drinks. And dinner. And women too. I would hold the door open for both. I have given up a seat for men and women who need it more than I do. It's called common courtesy.
I've never felt the need though to sweat the small stuff. Not interested. |
"Women on average still earn less than men for doing the same or equivalent jobs. "
Is this true?
Any evidence for this? |  |
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| Women only train carriages? on 20:34 - Aug 24 with 1204 views | waynekerr55 |
| Women only train carriages? on 20:15 - Aug 24 by Jack_Meoff |
Well then Mr Kerr me ol' mucker, doesn't that swing the pendulum back to the issue of private rail companies and the fact that it would seem that profit is more important than passenger safety? Or is that a separate conversation? |
There's a a correlation, but remember correlation does not automatically prove causation 😉
The thing is, all these politicians are so full of shìt if you have them an enema they'd disappear | |
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| Women only train carriages? on 20:48 - Aug 24 with 1187 views | Flashberryjack |
| Women only train carriages? on 20:34 - Aug 24 by waynekerr55 |
There's a a correlation, but remember correlation does not automatically prove causation 😉
The thing is, all these politicians are so full of shìt if you have them an enema they'd disappear |
They can't all be full of sh*t, especially when you consider how much comes out of their mouths.
Diane Abbott must be running on empty. | |
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| Women only train carriages? on 21:02 - Aug 24 with 1167 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Women only train carriages? on 20:21 - Aug 24 by dailew |
"Women on average still earn less than men for doing the same or equivalent jobs. "
Is this true?
Any evidence for this? |
The Institute for Fiscal Studies publish the figures each year.
The average pay gap at present in the U.K. is 18% (the highest in the EU incidentally). Some of that will, of course, be caused by children causing women (more often than men) to take a career break.
However, looking at the figures prior to children (so taking that element away from the figures), women still earn 10% less on average than men. (After children it's 33%).
Women with degrees earn 20% less than men with degrees. Women with A levels 25% less than men with A levels.
Companies are now, for the first time, required to publish their gender pay gap. It'll be interesting reading.
All this is, of course, despite pay discrimination being theoretically illegal for many years. |  | | |
| Women only train carriages? on 21:04 - Aug 24 with 1160 views | Jack_Meoff |
| Women only train carriages? on 20:19 - Aug 24 by Highjack |
Do you think that perverts would be less likely to grope women if the rail service was nationalised? |
I appreciate that's going into conjecture territory so can't say for sure. There's obviously an issue afoot that the private companies (whose first duty is to their shareholders) don't seem to want to rush to rectify. A nationalised railway would have a different set of priorities. [Post edited 24 Aug 2017 21:05]
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| Women only train carriages? on 21:09 - Aug 24 with 1156 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Women only train carriages? on 19:14 - Aug 24 by Jack_Meoff |
Kinell mind, hyperbole alert.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41020179
He told PoliticsHome that women-only carriages - which have been tested in countries including Japan, Brazil and Mexico - could create a "safe space".
Later, he told the BBC's Victoria Derbyshire show: "I'm not saying we should go down this road at all, I'm merely suggesting that we consult on it.
"If there is support for it, then providing an additional carriage to provide that safe space for people if they wanted it, offering that choice I think is worth looking at."
He's not suggesting segregation is he - merely a consultation on an additional carriage. A consultation isn't a policy suggestion. If it turns out to be unfeasible, then surely a consultation will reveal that.
The way some articles are worded are utterly disingenuous. For example:
http://metro.co.uk/2017/08/22/labour-mp-brings-back-women-only-train-carriage-id
Which states: 'A Labour MP has suggested women-only carriages should be introduced to combat sex attacks on trains.'
No he f*cking hasn't. The article then goes on to say,' It would be worth consulting about it. It was pooh-poohed (when Jeremy Corbyn suggested it), but these statistics seem to indicate there is some merit in examining that.'
And the mad thing? Whether or not it's a good idea, it's at least trying to address a clear problem. The article also goes on to say, 'Stats revealed by the BBC in July showed sexual offences on trains had increased by 650 in the last five years and 1,448 were reported to police in 2016-17.'
That's f*cking hideous, as is Lisa's post 'I don't know of any woman in London who at some point or another has not been groped on public transport. Not one.' It's just not good enough. I also agree that everyone should be safe during a train journey.
This turned out longer than expected. Clearly I'm some kind of sjw snowflake. Whatever that is.
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Thank you.
I don't agree with the solution, but your post highlights the actual problem, which is the dramatic increase in incidents.
The 'offence' being taken on this thread is 'oh, my God, innocent men are being accused'' rather than 'oh my God, innocent women are being assaulted'. | | | |
| Women only train carriages? on 21:13 - Aug 24 with 1153 views | dailew |
| Women only train carriages? on 21:02 - Aug 24 by londonlisa2001 |
The Institute for Fiscal Studies publish the figures each year.
The average pay gap at present in the U.K. is 18% (the highest in the EU incidentally). Some of that will, of course, be caused by children causing women (more often than men) to take a career break.
However, looking at the figures prior to children (so taking that element away from the figures), women still earn 10% less on average than men. (After children it's 33%).
Women with degrees earn 20% less than men with degrees. Women with A levels 25% less than men with A levels.
Companies are now, for the first time, required to publish their gender pay gap. It'll be interesting reading.
All this is, of course, despite pay discrimination being theoretically illegal for many years. |
Come on. Surely you can do better than that.
"However, looking at the figures prior to children (so taking that element away from the figures), women still earn 10% less on average than men"
So they're all doing the same job?
"Women with degrees earn 20% less than men with degrees. "
So they're all doing the same job?
etc etc | |
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| Women only train carriages? on 21:21 - Aug 24 with 1140 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Women only train carriages? on 21:13 - Aug 24 by dailew |
Come on. Surely you can do better than that.
"However, looking at the figures prior to children (so taking that element away from the figures), women still earn 10% less on average than men"
So they're all doing the same job?
"Women with degrees earn 20% less than men with degrees. "
So they're all doing the same job?
etc etc |
Well they are either doing equivalent jobs Dai and getting paid less or the men are getting better jobs than women on average.
Given that more graduates in the U.K. are women rather than men, where do you think the discrimination lies then? Are women being unfairly discriminated against when it comes to getting better paid jobs or are they being paid less for doing the same thing?
You decide. | | | |
| Women only train carriages? on 21:33 - Aug 24 with 1115 views | dailew |
| Women only train carriages? on 21:21 - Aug 24 by londonlisa2001 |
Well they are either doing equivalent jobs Dai and getting paid less or the men are getting better jobs than women on average.
Given that more graduates in the U.K. are women rather than men, where do you think the discrimination lies then? Are women being unfairly discriminated against when it comes to getting better paid jobs or are they being paid less for doing the same thing?
You decide. |
"Well they are either doing equivalent jobs Dai and getting paid less or the men are getting better jobs than women on average. "
Out of interest, which one do you think?
I'd go for the latter. | |
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| Women only train carriages? on 21:37 - Aug 24 with 1108 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Women only train carriages? on 21:33 - Aug 24 by dailew |
"Well they are either doing equivalent jobs Dai and getting paid less or the men are getting better jobs than women on average. "
Out of interest, which one do you think?
I'd go for the latter. |
A bit of both. | | | |
| Women only train carriages? on 21:38 - Aug 24 with 1104 views | dailew |
| Women only train carriages? on 21:37 - Aug 24 by londonlisa2001 |
A bit of both. |
You said either / or. No middle option. | |
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| Women only train carriages? on 21:40 - Aug 24 with 1102 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Women only train carriages? on 15:52 - Aug 24 by Flashberryjack |
"Outraged from Tunbridge Wells" started all this sh*te |
The bulk of the outrage about people who are outraged comes from people who are outraged about people being outraged.
I've been following this thread with vague amusement thus past few days. It's ridiculous. All that's been suggested (by an opposition MP who doesn't actually have any power or influence to so anything practical) is a possible consultation on whether this proposal might have some merit. The consultation would also bring to light potential negative impacts and drawbacks because that's what consultations are for. That's how policy is made. Or at least that's how it should be made.
Still, the hyperbole has given the increaingly vocal and tiresome anti-PC police something to get their teeth into. |  |
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| Women only train carriages? on 21:53 - Aug 24 with 1052 views | FieryJack |
| Women only train carriages? on 21:40 - Aug 24 by exiledclaseboy |
The bulk of the outrage about people who are outraged comes from people who are outraged about people being outraged.
I've been following this thread with vague amusement thus past few days. It's ridiculous. All that's been suggested (by an opposition MP who doesn't actually have any power or influence to so anything practical) is a possible consultation on whether this proposal might have some merit. The consultation would also bring to light potential negative impacts and drawbacks because that's what consultations are for. That's how policy is made. Or at least that's how it should be made.
Still, the hyperbole has given the increaingly vocal and tiresome anti-PC police something to get their teeth into. |
I think there are women-only coaches on trains in Delhi and other major Indian cities where the incidence of sexual assaults on trains is of off the scale.
There should also be special K*nt coaches for the likes of Dailew, Highjack and Mo Wives.
In an ideal world they would not be able to board a normal coach due to the large K mark forcibly branded into their foreheads by functionaries of the coming Revolutionary Govt.
Said coaches will have no seats, benches or windows. |  | | |
| Women only train carriages? on 21:57 - Aug 24 with 1058 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Women only train carriages? on 21:53 - Aug 24 by FieryJack |
I think there are women-only coaches on trains in Delhi and other major Indian cities where the incidence of sexual assaults on trains is of off the scale.
There should also be special K*nt coaches for the likes of Dailew, Highjack and Mo Wives.
In an ideal world they would not be able to board a normal coach due to the large K mark forcibly branded into their foreheads by functionaries of the coming Revolutionary Govt.
Said coaches will have no seats, benches or windows. |
 fair play. | |
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| Women only train carriages? on 21:59 - Aug 24 with 1054 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Women only train carriages? on 19:14 - Aug 24 by Jack_Meoff |
Kinell mind, hyperbole alert.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41020179
He told PoliticsHome that women-only carriages - which have been tested in countries including Japan, Brazil and Mexico - could create a "safe space".
Later, he told the BBC's Victoria Derbyshire show: "I'm not saying we should go down this road at all, I'm merely suggesting that we consult on it.
"If there is support for it, then providing an additional carriage to provide that safe space for people if they wanted it, offering that choice I think is worth looking at."
He's not suggesting segregation is he - merely a consultation on an additional carriage. A consultation isn't a policy suggestion. If it turns out to be unfeasible, then surely a consultation will reveal that.
The way some articles are worded are utterly disingenuous. For example:
http://metro.co.uk/2017/08/22/labour-mp-brings-back-women-only-train-carriage-id
Which states: 'A Labour MP has suggested women-only carriages should be introduced to combat sex attacks on trains.'
No he f*cking hasn't. The article then goes on to say,' It would be worth consulting about it. It was pooh-poohed (when Jeremy Corbyn suggested it), but these statistics seem to indicate there is some merit in examining that.'
And the mad thing? Whether or not it's a good idea, it's at least trying to address a clear problem. The article also goes on to say, 'Stats revealed by the BBC in July showed sexual offences on trains had increased by 650 in the last five years and 1,448 were reported to police in 2016-17.'
That's f*cking hideous, as is Lisa's post 'I don't know of any woman in London who at some point or another has not been groped on public transport. Not one.' It's just not good enough. I also agree that everyone should be safe during a train journey.
This turned out longer than expected. Clearly I'm some kind of sjw snowflake. Whatever that is.
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Have every available up arrow sir. | |
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| Women only train carriages? on 21:59 - Aug 24 with 1053 views | WarwickHunt |
| Women only train carriages? on 21:53 - Aug 24 by FieryJack |
I think there are women-only coaches on trains in Delhi and other major Indian cities where the incidence of sexual assaults on trains is of off the scale.
There should also be special K*nt coaches for the likes of Dailew, Highjack and Mo Wives.
In an ideal world they would not be able to board a normal coach due to the large K mark forcibly branded into their foreheads by functionaries of the coming Revolutionary Govt.
Said coaches will have no seats, benches or windows. |
Some of us used to go on away trips in those vehicles...
I thought branding K on foreheads was reserved for cereal killers. |  | | |
| Women only train carriages? on 22:02 - Aug 24 with 1044 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Women only train carriages? on 21:59 - Aug 24 by WarwickHunt |
Some of us used to go on away trips in those vehicles...
I thought branding K on foreheads was reserved for cereal killers. |
You've been watching your VHS box set of "The Comedians" from 1977 again haven't you? | |
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| Women only train carriages? on 22:07 - Aug 24 with 1032 views | Joe_bradshaw |
| Women only train carriages? on 21:59 - Aug 24 by WarwickHunt |
Some of us used to go on away trips in those vehicles...
I thought branding K on foreheads was reserved for cereal killers. |
Special K? |  |
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| Women only train carriages? on 22:09 - Aug 24 with 1009 views | FieryJack |
| Women only train carriages? on 21:59 - Aug 24 by WarwickHunt |
Some of us used to go on away trips in those vehicles...
I thought branding K on foreheads was reserved for cereal killers. |
Yes, I remember a nightmare journey on one of those trains in the early 80s to a midweek, evening game against Cardiff.
Welsh Cup semi, I think.
I wasn't so much nervous of the hordes of CCFC outside Ninian Park station as of the Swansea thugs on the train, half of whom were knocking back flagons of cider and inhaling huge portions of glue fumes from cellophane bags.
God knows where the police were in those days. | | | |
| Women only train carriages? on 22:11 - Aug 24 with 1000 views | FieryJack |
Fugging shambles, it was.
They were beating each other up on the train back. | | | |
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