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Thread | Cheating and Uprofessionalism?
at 11:01 20 Oct 2014
As mentioned by a poster on here all the Country has heard Garry’s rant but I personally do not see that as a good thing.
Like they heard Alex give his Van Persie could have been killed rant
‘the most dangerous thing I’ve seen on a football field for many years’…..‘He could have been killed. Williams should be banned for a long time.’
What did we say about him — he was trying to cover the fact that he could no beat us.
Personally I do not think to lose control like that best serves us
Of course he went down easy, players do it all the time in the box you even hear players criticised by pundits for not going down where there is contact — it is almost expected.
Angel said “I don’t even have to watch the replay. I know I didn’t touch Victor Moses — he went down before I went to challenge him”.
Monk said
"It's a clear dive, which is cheating," "He's cheated the ref, and then the ref's cheated us in terms of giving a decision that never was.”
"It's a disgusting decision, so blatant, so obvious. How the referee can't see it is beyond me. Moses should be ashamed of himself. It is a disgrace and he should be punished heavily”.
“It’s one of the most blatant dives you will ever see. You could watch a million games and you will not see a bette eh a more of a dive than that.” Ironically here he stopped himself from saying you won’t see a better dive
Things like: “you know me”…. “That’s the way I live my life those are my principles” — clearly intimating other managers who take this have no principles although immediately denying that
“The player should be ashamed of himself today Moses, I wouldn’t be able to go home to my family and fu@k. and show my face in front of my family” later apologises for swearing
“supposed to be a professional referee”…. “disguising decision”… “player cheating” …..blah blah blah
“Minimal contact with Rangel barely shoulder to shoulder not even that and he has thrown himself to the floor”….”laughable”…..”too easy to give a decision against Swansea city”
Bearing in mind that and Angel's claim he didn’t touch him, and all the abuse heaped on Moses and the ref and claiming the moral high ground — let us look at the following images (I am spilling no secrets here because they are all over the media)
Do we now think Monk was right now to go on his rant. From these images you can see Angel clearly has a closed fist grip on Moses’ shirt and is pulling him back right from the outset of the fall. On the bottom image you can see his shirt twisting round where Monk is still holding onto him.
That is the thing about taking the moral high ground — it is a high place to fall from
Let us test our own honesty
Siggy going down on that initial chance seeming to drag his leg near their goalie, was that an attempt to go down for a pen with apparently no contact?
Even if not, if it had been given as a pen would the players have surrounded the ref and said sorry sir we cannot accept this we cheated.
Would Monk have sent videos and letters to the refs to demand our penalty (if scored) would be rescinded?
Let’s think about this when we are claiming the moral high ground and angrily ranting on at length about others cheating, referees being unprofessional and boasting about our morals.
What about the comment on here that Taylor had Crouch by the scruff of his shirt holding him down just before our opener. Should Monk have that looked at retrospectively?
Also don’t think it is the most constructive criticising the referees manager contact at length and Monk saying he will go over his head in a nationally published interview.
Come on guys we are starting to sound like Liverpool, let’s show some class. Certainly say it was disappointing but review it in the cold light of day before making a total ass of ourselves. Persistently press it through the formal channels and with fellow managers, make public statements if no action is made. But do it with full knowledge of the facts in a calm and calculated way. Going off on a rant always has the danger of making yourself look very silly if you are wrong and damaging rather than assisting your case and credibility and by association that of our club.
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Thread | Bony
at 21:35 4 Oct 2014
Excellent to see Wilf hit the back of the net - heres to many more
Wilf plays a really important part for our team all round but it can only do his confidence good to get off the mark. Come on Wilfried Bony |
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Thread | Kuban Krasnodar
at 13:36 2 Oct 2014
Is this Russian team we played in Europe last season, different from the team Everton are playing?
From the Guardian http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/european/fk-krasnodar-vs-everton-eur
"Everton fans face a 4800 mile round trip to see Roberto Martinez’s side take on mysterious unknowns Krasnodar, who have made an assured start to their first season of European football"
and similar about this mystery new team has been on sky sports
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Thread | Manager of the Month
at 14:28 3 Sep 2014
When is this announced - will Garry get it
I think he definitely should for the team results so far. Granted you could look at any one of those matches and say we will/should win (as I did before Manu). We also know life is not like that. So the most impressive thing is winning every one of those matches.
Come on whoever makes these decisions, hopefully we can maintain excellent achievement but even if not this impressive achievement by our team led by Garry should be rightfully recognised in itself.
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Thread | FAO Phil - Posts being deleted again
at 23:10 20 Jul 2014
Phil perhaps you can respond this time and tell me why you oppo keeps deleting my posts and banning me and generally behaving in a bullying and discrimanatory manner?
Does this website only allow posts that toe the offical line unless they are form the choosen few?
Do you support this behaviour as you are ultimately responsible for your own website |
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Thread | Posts Being Deleted Again
at 18:50 5 Jun 2014
Phil can you tell my why your oppo is deleting my posts again please
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Thread | Newcastle in Perspective — the Future of Our Club
at 12:48 21 Apr 2014
It is brilliant to win away from home at any time. It is fantastic that we are now all but safe and any win is great so well done to the team on a massively important win. As I have maintained all along we were highly unlikely to go down under Laudrup and with the quality in our team neither should we be going down under Monk (although scrapping survival would be a poor result).
Last year we also beat Newcastle away
This year we beat Newcastle at home — Let’s compare the 2 Newcastle games this year, one under a manager we unceremoniously dumped as not fit, the other under his preferred replacement.
Consider also if relief is an objective enough emotion to choose our next manager on.
Newcastle Home — 4th Dec
- We won 3 — 0
- This was our 4th game in a week and a half
- Bony, Michu and Angel Rangel were all out injured and Leon benched returning from injury
- Newcastle had won their last 4 games on the bounce (including Chelsea and Spurs) conceding only 2 goals in all 4 games. In top form, had reached their highest position in the PL this season (5th) and a mere 1 point from 2nd Place in the PL.
[Canas and Poz both played and Poz assisted 2 goals]
Newcastle Away — 19th April
- We won 2 - 1
- This was our 3rd game in 3 weeks
- Newcastle scored 1st — their first goal in 5 games. Our winner an injury time penalty.
- Newcastle had lost their last 4 games on the bounce and had not managed to score a single goal in any of those games (in which they conceded 10 goals). They were in thier worst form of the season.
So whilst it is brilliant to win and the points are sorely needed — let’s keep a sense of balance.
The home game also typifies the massive key injuries and massively congested fixture list our previous manager was coping with in ongoing mode; whilst still keeping us on track for PL survival and keeping the FA Cup and European dream alive. Would we not want his replacement to be achieving more?
Considering the major impact Poz had on the reverse fixture and other games. I still ask why he has not once featured in the PL under Monk. Canas is also now being omitted even from the bench. Despite his limited appearances Poz has the 2nd highest assists in the whole team this season.
The fact that Pabs has the most assists despite his long injury — tells its own story re player quality
Monk is now achieving 2/3rds of the PL points achieved in last years like for like fixtures *
However pre Monk we were achieving at 96% - despite massive key injuries, a 50% more congested fixture list and winning additional games to keep us in Europe and the FA Cup
If we ignore game difficulty Monk is achieving on straight average fractionally over 1 point per game
pre monk the straight average was 1 point per game (not including the wins in the FA Cup and Europa)
We achieved more points in the reverse fixtures this year — despite all the injuries and additional games
In fact if you factor in all competitive games played rather than just PL, Laudrup earned the equivalent of 45 points out of 37 games, Monk 13 points out of 14 games. The difference between:
- Comfortable mid-table finish with massive key injuries and an average of 50% more fixtures a month
- Vs relegation form with a fully fit team and much more time between fixtures.
If Laudrup was no longer right (such that we were willing to most likely have to shell out millions in compensation) then we should be looking to upgrade. We should not be gambling the future of our club on a punt or sentiment. An inexperienced and tactically naive trainee does not cut it IMHO and his inside knowledge and involvement in what went before could be a distinct problem in obtaining unity and a fresh start.
As others have said it should be best person for the job, not jobs for the boys.
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* Despite Ian’s claims that last years like for like is a poor measure. It is in fact a standard statistical measure looking at how we did in the same games last year, one of the most common types of uses of comparative statistics. Of course this will vary on the standard of teams from year to year however over a significant number of games (as have now been played under both regimes) these will largely smooth themselves out and, unlike straight average points per game (which does not differentiate game difficulty between Man City and Fulham for e.g.) makes allowance for how we have fared against these teams previously.
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Thread | Help please 3 network reception/service, Tethering, Ipads
at 20:23 22 Nov 2013
Thinking of taking out the one plan from 3 which gives unlimited data (plus lots of mins and texts) for £15 a month for sim only. I understand this is one of the few/only unlimited data plans that allow tethering (i.e using your mobile as a wi fi hotspot to for e.g. to allow on line access for your ipad/laptop without other wi fi being available).
Have just got a 3 PAYG sim to test out reception (does not allow tethering but can switch to one month rolling sim only one plan to try this out if reception ok). Any help with the following questions (or other related info) would be brilliant. (currently use Orange - ummm - and O2 which I find ok with good reception)
1. Any problems with reception from 3 (Swansea particularly West Swansea and travelling round UK)
2. Any general problems with 3 that might make them bad choice
3. Any experience of tethering with 3 and how successful that is and are speeds usable
4. Thinking of going with a Samsung Galaxy III (already have 3 mini) as a reasonably priced well featured and good sized phone for internet browsing but most of these are 3G. Will I need a 4G phone to get decent response when tethering. Currently I understand 3 offering 4G as it is rolled out at no extra cost. (Understand coverage limited to main cities to begin with.)
Many thanks for any info
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Thread | Pablissimo
at 23:59 2 Sep 2013
Another transfer window closes. On the last day of the window last year we signed Pablo and I remember how excited everyone was to see this deal done.
Pablo had an excellent game yesterday. Fantastic work rate, creativity and vision. Of the 2 goals, he scored one and set up the other. Put through lovely passes and hit the bar.
Well done Pablo love to watch your trickery creativity and killer passes. Hope you have a great season ahead. Congratulations to the whole team for a brilliant unselfish performance and a great day for the fans. Grown men trying to kiss michu and Jonjo walking up the street with an orderly line of fans following him like a conga.
A big warm welcome to all our new signings and the impressive impact they are already making to our team.
Bring it on.
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Thread | Petrolul Fans
at 00:51 23 Aug 2013
Great to see you at the Liberty.
Good turnout, excellent spirit and support and what a spectacular and stylish goal. |
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Thread | This Site - Comments and Questions
at 10:38 30 Jul 2013
Can images only be inserted on links now or can you use html tags
Is there the facility to change font type colour size etc,
Is there a facility to search posts on keywords like on the old site
Should there be a Tickets and Travel Board as per the old site this was very useful
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