| Steps to Reform the Trust. 14:15 - Feb 23 with 7648 views | TheResurrection |
It's February going into March and it will soon be time for elections to the Trust Board once again.
I think it's fair to say the public perception of the Trust is probably at its lowest at this very moment in time with a string, of what looks like from the outside, calamitous failures over the last few years.
So what have we all done about this? It's fair to say we've done our fair share of moaning, on here in particular, but if we want change, what can we really do to effectthis.
There was hope with new faces joining the Trust Board that there would be some noticeable differences by now, but sadly, at least so far, that's far from the reality.
We all know Cudey and Lisa are good sorts and fair people. We thank them fully for stepping up and we know they'd offer something tangible and beneficial to the organisation.
But, is this enough? They've not been able to do anything about the latest farce the Trust has got itself into and from their careful posts on here they also seem too keen not to upset anyone over perhaps standing up and telling it like it is.
The majority rules mantra they've adopted isn't 'conducive to a fair and open Trust Board that we know are acting in our ibest nterests, as Chad pointed out earlier. The hard core of Trust people who should not be anywhere near the place due to the ridiculous amount of time already served, have got the place sewn up.
This needs to change. This needs to change right now.
These people are NOT the Trust, we all are,what every single Swans fan.
I implore the new Board members to make this stand right now and act decisively. It's time |  |
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| Steps to Reform the Trust. on 19:59 - Feb 23 with 1420 views | Phil_S |
| Steps to Reform the Trust. on 19:56 - Feb 23 by exiledclaseboy |
I didn’t say the current chairman has it. |
Ooffftt......  |  | | |
| Steps to Reform the Trust. on 20:00 - Feb 23 with 1416 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Steps to Reform the Trust. on 19:59 - Feb 23 by Phil_S |
Ooffftt...... |
Ha, now you’re seeing things that aren’t there. |  |
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| Steps to Reform the Trust. on 20:13 - Feb 23 with 1375 views | Phil_S |
| Steps to Reform the Trust. on 20:00 - Feb 23 by exiledclaseboy |
Ha, now you’re seeing things that aren’t there. |
I spend half my day looking for hidden meanings !! | | | |
| Steps to Reform the Trust. on 20:31 - Feb 23 with 1335 views | TheResurrection |
| Steps to Reform the Trust. on 19:38 - Feb 23 by exiledclaseboy |
The chairman’s job requires someone with the time and (now more than ever) the expertise to devote to it. I have neither. I’ve been genuinely surprised at how much time it’s taken up and I’m not as heavily involved in the details as some because I’m not involved in the sub group looking at the the share deal, for example.
In answer to your second question - I don’t know yet. |
Can we find a different term than sub group? It's breaking me!!! | |
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| Steps to Reform the Trust. on 20:34 - Feb 23 with 1322 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Steps to Reform the Trust. on 20:31 - Feb 23 by TheResurrection |
Can we find a different term than sub group? It's breaking me!!! |
Call it what you like. Sub-Committee? Working party? I’m easy on that one. | |
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| Steps to Reform the Trust. on 20:34 - Feb 23 with 1322 views | TheResurrection |
| Steps to Reform the Trust. on 19:56 - Feb 23 by exiledclaseboy |
I didn’t say the current chairman has it. |
Are you saying the current Chairman is out of his depth and doesn't know what he's doing? | |
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| Steps to Reform the Trust. on 20:35 - Feb 23 with 1319 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Steps to Reform the Trust. on 20:34 - Feb 23 by TheResurrection |
Are you saying the current Chairman is out of his depth and doesn't know what he's doing? |
Nope. | |
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| Steps to Reform the Trust. on 20:36 - Feb 23 with 1309 views | TheResurrection |
Are you just saying he's not up to it then? | |
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| Steps to Reform the Trust. on 20:38 - Feb 23 with 1305 views | monmouth |
| Steps to Reform the Trust. on 19:56 - Feb 23 by exiledclaseboy |
I didn’t say the current chairman has it. |
See, just what is needed. |  |
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| Steps to Reform the Trust. on 20:38 - Feb 23 with 1303 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Steps to Reform the Trust. on 20:36 - Feb 23 by TheResurrection |
Are you just saying he's not up to it then? |
Nope. I’m saying exactly what I said. You can try and goad me into slagging off individuals all you like. It isn’t going to happen. | |
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| Steps to Reform the Trust. on 20:41 - Feb 23 with 1289 views | TheResurrection |
| Steps to Reform the Trust. on 20:38 - Feb 23 by exiledclaseboy |
Nope. I’m saying exactly what I said. You can try and goad me into slagging off individuals all you like. It isn’t going to happen. |
No, no, no... you can't do this...
You've said more than ever the Trust Chairman needs the time and expertise and you've also said the current Trust Chairman, who let's face it, found his way there by default, hasn't got those qualities.
So in your opinion we need to improve in this area, is that right? | |
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| Steps to Reform the Trust. on 20:46 - Feb 23 with 1262 views | TheResurrection |
I don't really get this....
How effing hard can it be to show some transparency from the Trust Board. It would serve in all of your best interests, especially the ones who aren't afraid to say why they feel so strongly about a subject.
Cudey, you can do this mate. You can publish the last umpteen votes and let us know the type of things you're voting on, why, and who voted for what.
Let's form a facking sub group, or pub group, whatever and get this info out to us. I nominate you, Lisa and..... well this can be a very select sub group, just you and Lisa. Let's have it. [Post edited 23 Feb 2018 20:49]
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| Steps to Reform the Trust. on 20:57 - Feb 23 with 1231 views | builthjack |
Would it not be better to have a proper meeting, and put a plan into place about how you are going to get rid of people and vote the said names on?
No point discussing it on here as the plan would be out in the open.
Amateurish at the moment. |  |
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| Steps to Reform the Trust. on 21:28 - Feb 23 with 1167 views | longlostjack |
| Steps to Reform the Trust. on 20:57 - Feb 23 by builthjack |
Would it not be better to have a proper meeting, and put a plan into place about how you are going to get rid of people and vote the said names on?
No point discussing it on here as the plan would be out in the open.
Amateurish at the moment. |
This. Surely the first thing to do is get as many people to join the Trust as possible so that we can get change. The SCSA has been ridiculed on here by some - but they are the best hope we have of getting the message out that the Trust needs fresh blood. It's pretty obvious that the current Chairman doesn't see expanding membership as a priority. Setting up a Facebook page only for members FFS. |  |
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| Steps to Reform the Trust. on 21:29 - Feb 23 with 1165 views | Medici |
A noble thread, thanks to The Resurrection. The Trust is marginalised and weakening.
It appears the latest recruits are compounding the issue. Ever more marginalised and ineffective, as noted by the OP.
It is a sad indictment that some members of this forum are currently advocating that a marginalised appointee should now Chair. Objectively, there is no rationale. Which further serves to marginalise the Trust. The cycle continues.
Fresh blood is needed. Not staid local (and non-local) nobodies, but fresh ebullient locals with a knowledge of the game and the Club. |  | | |
| Steps to Reform the Trust. on 21:45 - Feb 23 with 1133 views | TheResurrection |
| Steps to Reform the Trust. on 21:28 - Feb 23 by longlostjack |
This. Surely the first thing to do is get as many people to join the Trust as possible so that we can get change. The SCSA has been ridiculed on here by some - but they are the best hope we have of getting the message out that the Trust needs fresh blood. It's pretty obvious that the current Chairman doesn't see expanding membership as a priority. Setting up a Facebook page only for members FFS. |
I've been the first to criticise the SCSA but if they brought about reform to the Trust and ousted the old dinosaurs I'd be very grateful. | |
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| Steps to Reform the Trust. on 21:47 - Feb 23 with 1126 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Steps to Reform the Trust. on 21:29 - Feb 23 by Medici |
A noble thread, thanks to The Resurrection. The Trust is marginalised and weakening.
It appears the latest recruits are compounding the issue. Ever more marginalised and ineffective, as noted by the OP.
It is a sad indictment that some members of this forum are currently advocating that a marginalised appointee should now Chair. Objectively, there is no rationale. Which further serves to marginalise the Trust. The cycle continues.
Fresh blood is needed. Not staid local (and non-local) nobodies, but fresh ebullient locals with a knowledge of the game and the Club. |
Hi zzoric. Your raft of alternative usernames fool no one ya weirdo. | |
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| Steps to Reform the Trust. on 22:17 - Feb 23 with 1084 views | max936 |
| Steps to Reform the Trust. on 17:58 - Feb 23 by Darran |
Great post. Are you reading this Max? |
Iam now, thing is you see every thing as black and white and can’t see your arse from your elbow most of the time, l said this time and again and it’s true how do we really know if vote is rigged cause we don’t as Monny said, some trust officials have been there since time forgot that cannot be right and isn’t right, everything in the garden as been rosy now the time as come to be strong and show LEADERSHIP where the fuk are they the SD is to busy hiding we never yr from him.
You shouldn’t need to be a member to want or support change, it’s not some elitist fuking bumchums club ffs
Where’s the Trust at this very important time with the purchase of the lease nowhere to be seen they accept things and don’t question or challenge the decisions, they don’t even explain or even have an opinion on matters on the things happening at the club toothless and gutless and you expect people to give their tenners to this rabble.
People don’t join because they cannot see the point, if there were genuine movements towards change people would join/rejoin and in numbers, but the Trust senior officials don’t seem to be doing a thing in telling members or supporters what has/goes on which is a cause of great deal of lethargy amongst the fan base at the times when we are doing better and that’s got to change because the same problems are still there.
Blindfolded members will therefore go with the status quo. [Post edited 23 Feb 2018 22:39]
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| Steps to Reform the Trust. on 22:37 - Feb 23 with 1060 views | Medici |
| Steps to Reform the Trust. on 22:17 - Feb 23 by max936 |
Iam now, thing is you see every thing as black and white and can’t see your arse from your elbow most of the time, l said this time and again and it’s true how do we really know if vote is rigged cause we don’t as Monny said, some trust officials have been there since time forgot that cannot be right and isn’t right, everything in the garden as been rosy now the time as come to be strong and show LEADERSHIP where the fuk are they the SD is to busy hiding we never yr from him.
You shouldn’t need to be a member to want or support change, it’s not some elitist fuking bumchums club ffs
Where’s the Trust at this very important time with the purchase of the lease nowhere to be seen they accept things and don’t question or challenge the decisions, they don’t even explain or even have an opinion on matters on the things happening at the club toothless and gutless and you expect people to give their tenners to this rabble.
People don’t join because they cannot see the point, if there were genuine movements towards change people would join/rejoin and in numbers, but the Trust senior officials don’t seem to be doing a thing in telling members or supporters what has/goes on which is a cause of great deal of lethargy amongst the fan base at the times when we are doing better and that’s got to change because the same problems are still there.
Blindfolded members will therefore go with the status quo. [Post edited 23 Feb 2018 22:39]
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Excellent post. More of this type of insight on this forum and beyond is required, to shake up the mindless status quo.
Way too much passive indifference and fear of change.
Let's hear from the newly appointed Agents of Change. How would they reform ? | | | |
| Steps to Reform the Trust. on 22:50 - Feb 23 with 1040 views | Bobby_Fischer |
| Steps to Reform the Trust. on 20:34 - Feb 23 by exiledclaseboy |
Call it what you like. Sub-Committee? Working party? I’m easy on that one. |
You are scared to say anything low the line. |  |
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| Steps to Reform the Trust. on 22:51 - Feb 23 with 1038 views | Bobby_Fischer |
| Steps to Reform the Trust. on 19:56 - Feb 23 by exiledclaseboy |
I didn’t say the current chairman has it. |
Is this for real? Lisa is hiding in Islington.. Where IS mal popes son? | |
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| Steps to Reform the Trust. on 23:18 - Feb 23 with 1011 views | TheResurrection |
| Steps to Reform the Trust. on 22:51 - Feb 23 by Bobby_Fischer |
Is this for real? Lisa is hiding in Islington.. Where IS mal popes son? |
He's slid away well under the radar. | |
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| Steps to Reform the Trust. on 23:20 - Feb 23 with 1010 views | Darran |
| Steps to Reform the Trust. on 23:18 - Feb 23 by TheResurrection |
He's slid away well under the radar. |
It’s not his son.
Just saying. |  |
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| Steps to Reform the Trust. on 23:29 - Feb 23 with 988 views | TheResurrection |
| Steps to Reform the Trust. on 23:20 - Feb 23 by Darran |
It’s not his son.
Just saying. |
I know that. I exposed him. | |
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