| American cowardice. 13:24 - Mar 2 with 996 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
The US army has been in Europe for 80 year training and testing and ready at any moment to act. 1944 to 2025 more or less.
In 2025 after 80 years of training they decide it is a good time to withdraw just after Russian tanks have warmed up. Worse than that the Ukrainians have at least halved the Russian threat for them for which they get no thanks.
It is cowardice writ large. The guy taunting Zelenski about I his suit was Brian Glenn, Marjorie Taylor Green' s boyfriend. They all carry guns but are afraid to use them against real threats. [Post edited 2 Mar 13:28]
|  |
| |  |
| American cowardice. on 15:19 - Mar 2 with 909 views | controversial_jack |
May i remind you, that the Ukraine is not in NATO |  | | |
| American cowardice. on 15:46 - Mar 2 with 896 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| American cowardice. on 15:19 - Mar 2 by controversial_jack |
May i remind you, that the Ukraine is not in NATO |
It never was and possibly never will be. Putin's wants to destroy and occupy a foreign land and Russify its children and used that NATO issue as an excuse.
Trump want UK and France to protect US mining firms. That will not work. As with any crisis people want OTHER people to do something
[Post edited 2 Mar 16:14]
| |
| |
| American cowardice. on 00:07 - Mar 3 with 773 views | controversial_jack |
| American cowardice. on 15:46 - Mar 2 by ReslovenSwan1 |
It never was and possibly never will be. Putin's wants to destroy and occupy a foreign land and Russify its children and used that NATO issue as an excuse.
Trump want UK and France to protect US mining firms. That will not work. As with any crisis people want OTHER people to do something
[Post edited 2 Mar 16:14]
|
Putin wanted NATO the keep it's distance, but it didn't. It will from now on. | | | |
| American cowardice. on 07:12 - Mar 3 with 726 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| American cowardice. on 00:07 - Mar 3 by controversial_jack |
Putin wanted NATO the keep it's distance, but it didn't. It will from now on. |
Finland has joined but are not Slavic peoples. They are now very close. Putin is more concerned about the EU. That is why it kicked off in 2014. EU talks not NATO.
He want to see Slavic peoples under his control and serfdom. He does not care about Finns. He wanted the whole of Ukraine but will settle for 20% with US help perhaps? His army has been smashed.
Getting the Russians out of Donetsk was always a big ask. All Ukraine's energy should be on the Crimea which is vulnerable. Russia had the harbour but Ukraine can take out ships anytime they like. It is effectively no use to Russia. | |
| |
| American cowardice. on 10:05 - Mar 3 with 666 views | controversial_jack |
| American cowardice. on 07:12 - Mar 3 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Finland has joined but are not Slavic peoples. They are now very close. Putin is more concerned about the EU. That is why it kicked off in 2014. EU talks not NATO.
He want to see Slavic peoples under his control and serfdom. He does not care about Finns. He wanted the whole of Ukraine but will settle for 20% with US help perhaps? His army has been smashed.
Getting the Russians out of Donetsk was always a big ask. All Ukraine's energy should be on the Crimea which is vulnerable. Russia had the harbour but Ukraine can take out ships anytime they like. It is effectively no use to Russia. |
Ukraine tried that. they had a lot of success initially with drones until Russia identified the source of these drones and it's command personnel and took them out with an iskander missiles. Crimea is hugely important to Russian strategy as it's one of their few outlets to the black sea. They will not give that up under any circumstances | | | |
| American cowardice. on 10:12 - Mar 3 with 657 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| American cowardice. on 10:05 - Mar 3 by controversial_jack |
Ukraine tried that. they had a lot of success initially with drones until Russia identified the source of these drones and it's command personnel and took them out with an iskander missiles. Crimea is hugely important to Russian strategy as it's one of their few outlets to the black sea. They will not give that up under any circumstances |
If Russia put a big ship there Ukraine can sink it at will. The Kerch bridge is more difficult it seems. I have to admit the Russians seem to have it protected.
Crimea is dependent on good will of President Zelenski and Bogdanov. This is the same problem UK had with Hong Kong. They could have kept it but the geography was in China favour. To keep Crimea Russia needs to crush Ukraine. | |
| |
| American cowardice. on 10:22 - Mar 3 with 649 views | controversial_jack |
| American cowardice. on 10:12 - Mar 3 by ReslovenSwan1 |
If Russia put a big ship there Ukraine can sink it at will. The Kerch bridge is more difficult it seems. I have to admit the Russians seem to have it protected.
Crimea is dependent on good will of President Zelenski and Bogdanov. This is the same problem UK had with Hong Kong. They could have kept it but the geography was in China favour. To keep Crimea Russia needs to crush Ukraine. |
What are they going to sink it with? They will protect the Crimea at all costs as it's so strategically important. It's a continuation of the great game , which Britain and Russia fought over in the 19th century. I also believe the population there want to remain Russian as the Ukraine shut off the water supply to them and Russia had to restore it.
Hong Kong was kept by the British because we had overwhelming forces. China then was not the China it is today and Britain is not the same also | | | |
| American cowardice. on 13:40 - Mar 3 with 583 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
The current regime’s viewpoint is that of America first and they don’t see any value for America in giving away hundreds of billions of dollars to keep a never ending war of attrition going. They are also reluctant to risk the lives of American servicemen by sending them into war zones that have nothing to do with them.
This is refreshing in a way. I and many others have criticised America for acting recklessly as the world police for decades. Iraq, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, all hugely misjudged actions that just left American (and British and European) people poorer and in many cases their sons and brothers unnecessarily dead.
It’s not cowardice it’s pragmatism.
The difficulty is not even America can stop Putin militarily despite his forces being completely impotent, ill trained, lacking motivation and being generally useless because of the nuclear threat. American boots on the ground firing at Russians will only lead to one thing. Mutually assured destruction for all of us. |  |
| |
Login to get fewer ads
| American cowardice. on 13:49 - Mar 3 with 571 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| American cowardice. on 13:40 - Mar 3 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
The current regime’s viewpoint is that of America first and they don’t see any value for America in giving away hundreds of billions of dollars to keep a never ending war of attrition going. They are also reluctant to risk the lives of American servicemen by sending them into war zones that have nothing to do with them.
This is refreshing in a way. I and many others have criticised America for acting recklessly as the world police for decades. Iraq, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, all hugely misjudged actions that just left American (and British and European) people poorer and in many cases their sons and brothers unnecessarily dead.
It’s not cowardice it’s pragmatism.
The difficulty is not even America can stop Putin militarily despite his forces being completely impotent, ill trained, lacking motivation and being generally useless because of the nuclear threat. American boots on the ground firing at Russians will only lead to one thing. Mutually assured destruction for all of us. |
They can stop Russia easily with propper budget kit and training. The Russian milliary is pathetic and while improving a little cannot take Ukraine.
Scott Ritter said when they took Bahkmut Donbass would fall rapidly. In two years they have progressed about the distance of Swansea to Neath. Imagine that?
They lose 50,000 men to take the equivalent of Skewen. This is with an underfunded Ukrainian milliary opposing them. This is unsustainable economically and politically. [Post edited 3 Mar 14:46]
| |
| |
| American cowardice. on 20:32 - Mar 3 with 441 views | felixstowe_jack |
| American cowardice. on 15:19 - Mar 2 by controversial_jack |
May i remind you, that the Ukraine is not in NATO |
Nobody ever said Ukraine was in NATO.
May I remind you your Russia invaded an sovereign nation.
May U remind you your Russia is still targeting and killing civilians which is a war crime | |
| |
| American cowardice. on 21:16 - Mar 3 with 399 views | controversial_jack |
| American cowardice. on 20:32 - Mar 3 by felixstowe_jack |
Nobody ever said Ukraine was in NATO.
May I remind you your Russia invaded an sovereign nation.
May U remind you your Russia is still targeting and killing civilians which is a war crime |
They went there to protect ethic Russians in the Donbass , just as we went to the Falklands to protect ethnic Brits | | | |
| American cowardice. on 23:43 - Mar 3 with 344 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| American cowardice. on 21:16 - Mar 3 by controversial_jack |
They went there to protect ethic Russians in the Donbass , just as we went to the Falklands to protect ethnic Brits |
Falklands were and are sovereign British land occupied by British Commonwealth citizens. Russian invaded Ukrainian land occupied by Ukrainian citizens and Ukrainian passport holders. Quite different scenarios. Kosovo nay be a better comparison..
Some were seduced by Russian agitation by the likes of KGM man Strelkov who is currently in jail for criticism of Putin. He has admitted stirring up the locals for Russia . There was an organised rebellion and sadly this inevitably leads to violence as the central Government attempted to put down the rebellion.
The best place for ethnic Russians to live in is Russia. Putin says Russians and Ukrainians are the same so separation was not required. UK voted for Brexit and Scotland was strongly against. They did not turn to violence.
The 2014 change in government arose out of the President reneging on his own manifesto to move to join the EU. This was blocked by Putin and Ukrainians were furious and the president ran away to Moscow. Ukraine will be in the EU eventually as will Belarus. It is what the young people want in my opinion. They are dealing with Russia so there is no voluntary break up as seen in 1992. [Post edited 4 Mar 0:22]
| |
| |
| American cowardice. on 00:02 - Mar 4 with 334 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
I’ve asked this a million times and never got an answer but I’ll try again.
What the hell is an ethnic Russian? | |
| |
| American cowardice. on 00:27 - Mar 4 with 291 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| American cowardice. on 13:40 - Mar 3 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
The current regime’s viewpoint is that of America first and they don’t see any value for America in giving away hundreds of billions of dollars to keep a never ending war of attrition going. They are also reluctant to risk the lives of American servicemen by sending them into war zones that have nothing to do with them.
This is refreshing in a way. I and many others have criticised America for acting recklessly as the world police for decades. Iraq, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, all hugely misjudged actions that just left American (and British and European) people poorer and in many cases their sons and brothers unnecessarily dead.
It’s not cowardice it’s pragmatism.
The difficulty is not even America can stop Putin militarily despite his forces being completely impotent, ill trained, lacking motivation and being generally useless because of the nuclear threat. American boots on the ground firing at Russians will only lead to one thing. Mutually assured destruction for all of us. |
Trump has exaggerated the figures and Ukraine arming represent a very small percentage of the Pentagon spending. USA big g riddles are Russia China and Hard Islam.
Defending democracy against Russia is what the defence was designed for. They gave been spending billions for 80 years fearing the Russian tanks .
When they started rolling USA is saying we are out. It is cowardice. What have they been doing for 80 years? | |
| |
| American cowardice. on 10:38 - Mar 4 with 189 views | controversial_jack |
| American cowardice. on 00:27 - Mar 4 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Trump has exaggerated the figures and Ukraine arming represent a very small percentage of the Pentagon spending. USA big g riddles are Russia China and Hard Islam.
Defending democracy against Russia is what the defence was designed for. They gave been spending billions for 80 years fearing the Russian tanks .
When they started rolling USA is saying we are out. It is cowardice. What have they been doing for 80 years? |
There was and is nothing democratic about the Ukraine | | | |
| American cowardice. on 11:32 - Mar 4 with 149 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| American cowardice. on 10:38 - Mar 4 by controversial_jack |
There was and is nothing democratic about the Ukraine |
Ukrainian people appear to want to join the west and escape Russian influence. EU was on the menu in 2014 before Putin blocked it.
They will be prepared to ditch the people of the occupied Donbass and Donetz in a deal I expect. Crimea is not sustainable without Zelenski' s approval. It is well within Ukrainian missile range that can sink any Russian ship | |
| |
| American cowardice. on 11:54 - Mar 4 with 138 views | controversial_jack |
| American cowardice. on 11:32 - Mar 4 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Ukrainian people appear to want to join the west and escape Russian influence. EU was on the menu in 2014 before Putin blocked it.
They will be prepared to ditch the people of the occupied Donbass and Donetz in a deal I expect. Crimea is not sustainable without Zelenski' s approval. It is well within Ukrainian missile range that can sink any Russian ship |
Actually no. most have located to Russia, over 2 million, more than to Poland even
They were never going to join the EU, because it was a corrupt and a financial basket case | | | |
| American cowardice. on 12:05 - Mar 4 with 135 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| American cowardice. on 11:54 - Mar 4 by controversial_jack |
Actually no. most have located to Russia, over 2 million, more than to Poland even
They were never going to join the EU, because it was a corrupt and a financial basket case |
EU wants them to join. It is a force for fiscal control and improving of governance ( relatively). Italy and Greece are probably less corrupt from EU membership.
In my opinion Putin was more afraid of EU than NATO. The 2014 was about movement towards the EU not NATO. This does not fit the Putin / Prof Sachs narrative.
Israel and Gaza is a problem for the west. The c violence arises a out of land theft in its simplest form. The land grabbers are Russia and Israel. Everyone is compromised.. | |
| |
| American cowardice. on 13:20 - Mar 4 with 95 views | controversial_jack |
| American cowardice. on 12:05 - Mar 4 by ReslovenSwan1 |
EU wants them to join. It is a force for fiscal control and improving of governance ( relatively). Italy and Greece are probably less corrupt from EU membership.
In my opinion Putin was more afraid of EU than NATO. The 2014 was about movement towards the EU not NATO. This does not fit the Putin / Prof Sachs narrative.
Israel and Gaza is a problem for the west. The c violence arises a out of land theft in its simplest form. The land grabbers are Russia and Israel. Everyone is compromised.. |
The EU does not want them to join at all. Ukraine is a basket case financially and there is no shortcut to membership. | | | |
| American cowardice. on 14:03 - Mar 4 with 69 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| American cowardice. on 13:20 - Mar 4 by controversial_jack |
The EU does not want them to join at all. Ukraine is a basket case financially and there is no shortcut to membership. |
The EU wants them to join and the 2014 election was based in this trajectory. This is what the war is about. Ukrainians want to align with the west. You and Putin want them aligned to Russian dictators. I sense Russia wants to grab as much land before the inevitable happens. France has been negotiating about rare earths for months. USA are interlopers.
Russia cannot claim to want to stop Ukraine becoming democratic. They gave created an anti NATO narrative but it is not the main issue. EU membership is the issue. | |
| |
| |
By continuing to use the site, you agree to our use of cookies and to abide by our Terms and Conditions.
