| Russell Martin court case settled on 12:52 - Nov 18 with 1343 views | Whiterockin |
| Russell Martin court case settled on 12:47 - Nov 18 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Thanks for the opportunity. I come on here to give my views not to justify myself or promote self validation. |
Exactly as I thought, all hot air and no substance. |  | |  |
| Russell Martin court case settled on 12:55 - Nov 18 with 1325 views | jack247 |
| Russell Martin court case settled on 12:03 - Nov 18 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Perhaps you have that famous Swansea negative mindset the poet mentioned all those years ago. They have not ruined the club. You spend too much time wallowing in negative thoughts reading the comments of stone cold Welsh losers.
The best Swansea supporters were Huw Jenkins and Martin Morgan. They set no limits on ambition.
The club is in a reasonably good place with a new dynamic Chief. The fans group is frankly pathetic concentrating on £5000 PR stunts like the mural.
The football club is in the care of Levien and Kaplan I backed them. I am not looking for anyone to blame. Swansea are in a position which is general above average for the clubs history . Around the 30th in the English system with a challenging financial situation
I back Coleman. Do you? |
Where we were decades ago is irrelevant. We are in a far, far worse position now than when they took over.
That’s not a negative mindset, it’s reality. They have been abysmal custodians.
I agree about Jenkins and Morgan, but yet again, you are diverting. This discussion isn’t about the trust.
I do back Coleman yes, as I did Levein and Kaplan when they first arrived. If he runs the club as badly as them, I will change my view.
Unlike yourself, I judge people on what they acheive, not their nationality. |  | | |
| Russell Martin court case settled on 13:25 - Nov 18 with 1287 views | onehunglow |
| Russell Martin court case settled on 12:55 - Nov 18 by jack247 |
Where we were decades ago is irrelevant. We are in a far, far worse position now than when they took over.
That’s not a negative mindset, it’s reality. They have been abysmal custodians.
I agree about Jenkins and Morgan, but yet again, you are diverting. This discussion isn’t about the trust.
I do back Coleman yes, as I did Levein and Kaplan when they first arrived. If he runs the club as badly as them, I will change my view.
Unlike yourself, I judge people on what they acheive, not their nationality. |
Good post that
They most certainly took their eye off the ball,so to speak | |
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| Russell Martin court case settled on 13:40 - Nov 18 with 1262 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Russell Martin court case settled on 12:52 - Nov 18 by Whiterockin |
Exactly as I thought, all hot air and no substance. |
Classic forum nonsense. You ask me for my credentials and demand I validate myself and when I decline you insult me. Low class stuff as usual.
Levien and Kaplan have invested much more than you will ever do. I give th m some respect. They tried and failed and it was not all their own fault. The Trust created obstacles for them by a 6 year legal threat. No one would invest until it was over.
The Trust have put £200k into the club and taken £1.3m out. They have paid for a mural to be fair. |  |
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| Russell Martin court case settled on 14:08 - Nov 18 with 1226 views | Whiterockin |
| Russell Martin court case settled on 13:40 - Nov 18 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Classic forum nonsense. You ask me for my credentials and demand I validate myself and when I decline you insult me. Low class stuff as usual.
Levien and Kaplan have invested much more than you will ever do. I give th m some respect. They tried and failed and it was not all their own fault. The Trust created obstacles for them by a 6 year legal threat. No one would invest until it was over.
The Trust have put £200k into the club and taken £1.3m out. They have paid for a mural to be fair. |
A couple of differences between Levien, Kaplan and myself.
I have supported the club for 60 years and want what is best for the club and to see it do well, always have and always will.
Every penny I have put in over that 60 years I never expected or wanted anything back financially.
Can the same be said for Kaplan and Levien.
Strange now that Kaplan and Levien are on the way out, you are blaming the trust for putting obstacles in their way to stop them leaving sooner. You really are confused and clutching at straws. That is a massive U turn on what you have been saying for years. As for respect they get as much as they have given my club and supporters of which you are not one. | | | |
| Russell Martin court case settled on 14:09 - Nov 18 with 1221 views | QJumpingJack |
| Russell Martin court case settled on 13:40 - Nov 18 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Classic forum nonsense. You ask me for my credentials and demand I validate myself and when I decline you insult me. Low class stuff as usual.
Levien and Kaplan have invested much more than you will ever do. I give th m some respect. They tried and failed and it was not all their own fault. The Trust created obstacles for them by a 6 year legal threat. No one would invest until it was over.
The Trust have put £200k into the club and taken £1.3m out. They have paid for a mural to be fair. |
For someone who has not been a Trust member for some time you seem to spend a lot of time focusing on them.
Where do you get your information on what they have allegedly done/not done? A lot of your claims don't seem to be in the public domain. | | | |
| Russell Martin court case settled on 15:42 - Nov 18 with 1122 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Russell Martin court case settled on 14:09 - Nov 18 by QJumpingJack |
For someone who has not been a Trust member for some time you seem to spend a lot of time focusing on them.
Where do you get your information on what they have allegedly done/not done? A lot of your claims don't seem to be in the public domain. |
All from public domain. The important point here is how do these bodies work. This one certainly does not. There is a massive failure of logic. No one knows what they are trying to do. No one cares.
In 2015 they needed to act but chose to do nothing. The members did not give a fig. | |
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| Russell Martin court case settled on 18:21 - Nov 18 with 1071 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Russell Martin court case settled on 10:22 - Nov 18 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Swansea fans use derogatory words for the owners and sing racial slurs against my people. I have never been to the Sok Cae Ras. Coleman is giving it a good go with brash aggressive stance while the fans owners are doing their knitting..
Double standard writ large |
I thought Swansea fans were your people, unless you're not really a Swansea fan.
Who are your people, would they be the Welsh people 40 miles away who sing some nasty stuff about us?
Who calls our owners "Yanks"? I don't remember ever doing so...can you produce evidemce for who does? I'm sure there will be a few but callig it "much loved" is a real stretch.
I haven't seen any nasty words about our owners, the current owners. The previous majority owners were useless though and all the evidence backs that up. | | | |
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| Russell Martin court case settled on 18:30 - Nov 18 with 1056 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Russell Martin court case settled on 12:47 - Nov 18 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Thanks for the opportunity. I come on here to give my views not to justify myself or promote self validation. |
Does that mean you've completely stopped mentioning "POTY"?  | | | |
| Russell Martin court case settled on 20:30 - Nov 18 with 990 views | QJumpingJack |
| Russell Martin court case settled on 15:42 - Nov 18 by ReslovenSwan1 |
All from public domain. The important point here is how do these bodies work. This one certainly does not. There is a massive failure of logic. No one knows what they are trying to do. No one cares.
In 2015 they needed to act but chose to do nothing. The members did not give a fig. |
Not true. You seem to know about a conversation at a certain hotel in Swansea sometime around the sale of the club in 2016. How do you know this? | | | |
| Russell Martin court case settled on 16:28 - Nov 19 with 851 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Russell Martin court case settled on 20:30 - Nov 18 by QJumpingJack |
Not true. You seem to know about a conversation at a certain hotel in Swansea sometime around the sale of the club in 2016. How do you know this? |
There are reams of information from the Trust itself and comments by the owners plus the press. The Trust were quite open in statements. It is, I would imagine a slow lumbering body that is not given to making fast decisions.
It is not good news that they are guaranteed 5% in my opinion. They are good PR for the club I suppose. Coleman " has a very positive" relationship with them.
I smile wryly when he says things like "they are a vital part of what we are trying to do". | |
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| Russell Martin court case settled on 18:31 - Nov 19 with 794 views | QJumpingJack |
| Russell Martin court case settled on 16:28 - Nov 19 by ReslovenSwan1 |
There are reams of information from the Trust itself and comments by the owners plus the press. The Trust were quite open in statements. It is, I would imagine a slow lumbering body that is not given to making fast decisions.
It is not good news that they are guaranteed 5% in my opinion. They are good PR for the club I suppose. Coleman " has a very positive" relationship with them.
I smile wryly when he says things like "they are a vital part of what we are trying to do". |
The press have never printed anything about a meeting at a Swansea hotel between the club and the Trust.
Please provide links to where it has been reported about this alleged conversation to support your comments. | | | |
| Russell Martin court case settled on 20:13 - Nov 19 with 760 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Russell Martin court case settled on 16:28 - Nov 19 by ReslovenSwan1 |
There are reams of information from the Trust itself and comments by the owners plus the press. The Trust were quite open in statements. It is, I would imagine a slow lumbering body that is not given to making fast decisions.
It is not good news that they are guaranteed 5% in my opinion. They are good PR for the club I suppose. Coleman " has a very positive" relationship with them.
I smile wryly when he says things like "they are a vital part of what we are trying to do". |
I thought a moderator had asked you to stop prattling on about the trust?
Can you explain why the club breaking even means there wasn't a fire sale? Couldn't be that the fire sale got the club to the break even point? What you said is illogical.
If you're not looking for anyone to blame, why do you keep singling the trust out? [Post edited 19 Nov 20:19]
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| Russell Martin court case settled on 20:26 - Nov 19 with 737 views | KeithHaynes |
I’ve done some checking with a few people.
There’s credibility in the Swans awful state financially when relegated. I’ll do some more digging with some involved at the time. |  |
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| Russell Martin court case settled on 20:41 - Nov 19 with 703 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Russell Martin court case settled on 20:13 - Nov 19 by SullutaCreturned |
I thought a moderator had asked you to stop prattling on about the trust?
Can you explain why the club breaking even means there wasn't a fire sale? Couldn't be that the fire sale got the club to the break even point? What you said is illogical.
If you're not looking for anyone to blame, why do you keep singling the trust out? [Post edited 19 Nov 20:19]
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"Firesale" is a loose word and suggests a desperate sale at knock down prices.
It is linked to " fire damaged" stock which often is sold at 5p in the pound. The word has taken on new meaning but never meant sold at a break even. | |
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| Russell Martin court case settled on 20:44 - Nov 19 with 683 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Russell Martin court case settled on 18:31 - Nov 19 by QJumpingJack |
The press have never printed anything about a meeting at a Swansea hotel between the club and the Trust.
Please provide links to where it has been reported about this alleged conversation to support your comments. |
The only person talking about a meeting in a Swansea hotel is you. I was not there. I have never been to a Trust meeting as I see them as a waste of time. | |
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| Russell Martin court case settled on 21:57 - Nov 19 with 631 views | raynor94 |
| Russell Martin court case settled on 20:44 - Nov 19 by ReslovenSwan1 |
The only person talking about a meeting in a Swansea hotel is you. I was not there. I have never been to a Trust meeting as I see them as a waste of time. |
You are no fan of Swansea City, I fail to understand why you linger on here, I have been a st holder for 60 years, and posted on here for almost 25 years suprised I've never noticed you before |  |
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| Russell Martin court case settled on 22:07 - Nov 19 with 601 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Russell Martin court case settled on 21:57 - Nov 19 by raynor94 |
You are no fan of Swansea City, I fail to understand why you linger on here, I have been a st holder for 60 years, and posted on here for almost 25 years suprised I've never noticed you before |
You know what you are and you sing it proudly. I have followed Swansea since the Toshack days. I do not like your politics of weakness and lack of national pride. Ethnic slurs are ethnic slurs and irrespective of the target.
Old habits die hard. We have largely eradicated the filth directed at black players mainly through the force of the law of the land.
You do not see the parallels. You perhaps are not able..Comfortable in a crowd. | |
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| Russell Martin court case settled on 22:16 - Nov 19 with 578 views | raynor94 |
| Russell Martin court case settled on 22:07 - Nov 19 by ReslovenSwan1 |
You know what you are and you sing it proudly. I have followed Swansea since the Toshack days. I do not like your politics of weakness and lack of national pride. Ethnic slurs are ethnic slurs and irrespective of the target.
Old habits die hard. We have largely eradicated the filth directed at black players mainly through the force of the law of the land.
You do not see the parallels. You perhaps are not able..Comfortable in a crowd. |
You Tube wasn't around 81, did you actually attend games at some time.
Where do you find my lack of National pride? I'm a proud Welshman | |
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| Russell Martin court case settled on 22:17 - Nov 19 with 573 views | Whiterockin |
| Russell Martin court case settled on 22:07 - Nov 19 by ReslovenSwan1 |
You know what you are and you sing it proudly. I have followed Swansea since the Toshack days. I do not like your politics of weakness and lack of national pride. Ethnic slurs are ethnic slurs and irrespective of the target.
Old habits die hard. We have largely eradicated the filth directed at black players mainly through the force of the law of the land.
You do not see the parallels. You perhaps are not able..Comfortable in a crowd. |
Follow is not support, a massive difference that you have made abundantly clear. | | | |
| Russell Martin court case settled on 12:03 - Nov 20 with 446 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Russell Martin court case settled on 22:16 - Nov 19 by raynor94 |
You Tube wasn't around 81, did you actually attend games at some time.
Where do you find my lack of National pride? I'm a proud Welshman |
A proud Welshman does not insult his own people with salacious filth even in jest.
A proud Welshman man does not want to hand back government back to London.
A proud Welshman should defend his own language even if he is unable to speak it himself.
A proud Welshman can do all these things and sti be happy to be British on his passport.
You have to walk the walk. | |
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| Russell Martin court case settled on 12:13 - Nov 20 with 437 views | raynor94 |
| Russell Martin court case settled on 12:03 - Nov 20 by ReslovenSwan1 |
A proud Welshman does not insult his own people with salacious filth even in jest.
A proud Welshman man does not want to hand back government back to London.
A proud Welshman should defend his own language even if he is unable to speak it himself.
A proud Welshman can do all these things and sti be happy to be British on his passport.
You have to walk the walk. |
Your first paragraph is laughable, the second I do because of the mess this Senedd has left this Country in.
I have no problem with the Welsh language, I'm still a proud Welsh man, but also proud to be British and strong supporter of the Union | |
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| Russell Martin court case settled on 12:20 - Nov 20 with 435 views | onehunglow |
| Russell Martin court case settled on 21:57 - Nov 19 by raynor94 |
You are no fan of Swansea City, I fail to understand why you linger on here, I have been a st holder for 60 years, and posted on here for almost 25 years suprised I've never noticed you before |
In that case ,I must have wasted 25 yrs on here 
I’ve always tried to be honest
It’s not always easy .
I’ve never really “ liked” valley people,certainly not Gogs , always found them “ backward”. A few years behind .Res makes interesting points some of which I agree but clearly he’s no fan of Swansea folk. And that’s fine .
I’ve always “ slagged off Swansea,Wales ,whenever I see shortcomings . That’s cos I care . Clearly some very snide remarks see him reap what he sows
Tin hat at the ready | |
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| Russell Martin court case settled on 12:24 - Nov 20 with 431 views | KeithHaynes |
| Russell Martin court case settled on 12:20 - Nov 20 by onehunglow |
In that case ,I must have wasted 25 yrs on here
I’ve always tried to be honest
It’s not always easy .
I’ve never really “ liked” valley people,certainly not Gogs , always found them “ backward”. A few years behind .Res makes interesting points some of which I agree but clearly he’s no fan of Swansea folk. And that’s fine .
I’ve always “ slagged off Swansea,Wales ,whenever I see shortcomings . That’s cos I care . Clearly some very snide remarks see him reap what he sows
Tin hat at the ready |
The youngsters in the valleys around Cardiff and the main towns are full of young Jacks.
Embrace. | |
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| Russell Martin court case settled on 14:21 - Nov 20 with 363 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Russell Martin court case settled on 12:13 - Nov 20 by raynor94 |
Your first paragraph is laughable, the second I do because of the mess this Senedd has left this Country in.
I have no problem with the Welsh language, I'm still a proud Welsh man, but also proud to be British and strong supporter of the Union |
Not good enough for me. Trust the people of Wales to run Wales. The posth boys of Eton took us out of the EU. Absolute vandalism. What the Senedd has done is child's play compared to that and you know it.
You prefer English people to run Wales and denigrate Welsh people outside the football bubble in lewd songs.
60+ and still snigger at teenage slurs. Cymru am byth keep it clean | |
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