| Nicholas brayne 20:48 - Mar 8 with 11690 views | Dale85 |
Nicholas Brayne “ aka Alan partridge”
Little birdie told me he is the broker in the WSH deal
Thought I had seen him hanging around like a wet fart
If my memory serves me right he was the broker in the whole James Lawrence fiasco
Something starting to stink as well as him !!
credibility is going down the pan with WSH and fast.
Just hope our penfold “ aka Simon Gaugue “ and the rest of the board stay off the clubs free red wine this weekend( Pockney 👀) every penny counts !!!!
Big decisions to make fellas
I wonder what the comms are on this deal for Alan partridge . Who pays for the comms as well?
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| Nicholas brayne on 20:58 - Mar 8 with 7746 views | DorkingDale |
Oh Christ......Heaven help us. |  | | |
| Nicholas brayne on 21:02 - Mar 8 with 7707 views | jakedwd |
FFS you're having a laugh surely |  | | |
| Nicholas brayne on 21:07 - Mar 8 with 7655 views | D_Alien |
And what's your agenda?
Don't tell us you're just a "committed fan" and haven't got one
It's okay, we don't mind as long as you're as up front as what you think your trying to expose |  |
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| Nicholas brayne on 21:14 - Mar 8 with 7568 views | Brierls |
L&G…we’re going to have a few new posters over the next few weeks.
And a few old ones with a different username. I’d be annoyed too. |  | | |
| Nicholas brayne on 21:37 - Mar 8 with 7420 views | wozzrafc |
Didn’t the trust say that one of the people they do due diligence was the person who introduced WSH. From their statement:
“ With regards the named person we had looked into, he has acted to introduce WSH to Rochdale. There is no fee involved for him. Currently, he is not active at WSH but this may change.”
We need to stop putting rumours out there and jeopardising what could be a good deal. If you have proof then call it out. But we don’t know nothing about WSH or TFC so let’s not start rumour or making accusations about bids when we don’t know.
I trust the Trust to look at the do their due diligence and ask the board the hard questions. Let’s not jeopardise the future our club by second guessing this process. | | | |
| Nicholas brayne on 21:40 - Mar 8 with 7393 views | D_Alien |
| Nicholas brayne on 21:37 - Mar 8 by wozzrafc |
Didn’t the trust say that one of the people they do due diligence was the person who introduced WSH. From their statement:
“ With regards the named person we had looked into, he has acted to introduce WSH to Rochdale. There is no fee involved for him. Currently, he is not active at WSH but this may change.”
We need to stop putting rumours out there and jeopardising what could be a good deal. If you have proof then call it out. But we don’t know nothing about WSH or TFC so let’s not start rumour or making accusations about bids when we don’t know.
I trust the Trust to look at the do their due diligence and ask the board the hard questions. Let’s not jeopardise the future our club by second guessing this process. |
When you say "WE need to stop putting rumours out there..." you may be assuming the OP is from someone who actually supports Dale | |
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| Nicholas brayne on 21:54 - Mar 8 with 7274 views | Sandyman |
Bankrupt, Cry-baby and friends: When will you poor gormless souls realise you're not very good at this? |  | | |
| Nicholas brayne on 21:59 - Mar 8 with 7246 views | wozzrafc |
| Nicholas brayne on 21:40 - Mar 8 by D_Alien |
When you say "WE need to stop putting rumours out there..." you may be assuming the OP is from someone who actually supports Dale |
I mean the collective we Dalefans
If somebody knows something put their head above the parapet put their name to it and put the facts out there.
We know nothing about either of the two bids yet, we don’t know the people the plans or their finances. The trust are being involved and they will report what they see from the facts.
Both deals could be good both could be bad, quite frankly we don’t know.
Yes the op could be a Dale fan but that doesn’t change the fact that unless they have 100% proof there are issues with any deal then starting rumours could do more harm than good.
If they have proof go to the trust . But we need to deal in fact. That is my opinion [Post edited 8 Mar 22:01]
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| Nicholas brayne on 22:06 - Mar 8 with 7197 views | D_Alien |
| Nicholas brayne on 21:59 - Mar 8 by wozzrafc |
I mean the collective we Dalefans
If somebody knows something put their head above the parapet put their name to it and put the facts out there.
We know nothing about either of the two bids yet, we don’t know the people the plans or their finances. The trust are being involved and they will report what they see from the facts.
Both deals could be good both could be bad, quite frankly we don’t know.
Yes the op could be a Dale fan but that doesn’t change the fact that unless they have 100% proof there are issues with any deal then starting rumours could do more harm than good.
If they have proof go to the trust . But we need to deal in fact. That is my opinion [Post edited 8 Mar 22:01]
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I was pointing out the OP may NOT be from a Dale fan... | |
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| Nicholas brayne on 22:20 - Mar 8 with 7118 views | wozzrafc |
| Nicholas brayne on 22:06 - Mar 8 by D_Alien |
I was pointing out the OP may NOT be from a Dale fan... |
Apologies I see your point.
We need to call this out because A) some fans could believe it and B) a potential investor could read it and believe it [Post edited 8 Mar 22:54]
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| Nicholas brayne on 05:25 - Mar 9 with 6691 views | TalkingSutty |
| Nicholas brayne on 22:20 - Mar 8 by wozzrafc |
Apologies I see your point.
We need to call this out because A) some fans could believe it and B) a potential investor could read it and believe it [Post edited 8 Mar 22:54]
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I believe this to be true and Brayne is brokering this deal with WSH. The same Brayne who nearly stitched Gauge and the club up a couple of months ago with a bunch of shysters. Brayne will join the board of Directors, Gauge will get a chunk of his money back and will remain in place to continue running the club. Brayne will also get his commission for brokering the deal. WSH get the club on the cheap. Gauge was gutted when the fans exposed Brayne and his merry men, he blamed the collapse of the deal on the fans remember. Come on everybody, wake up please and for god sake stop believing what Gauge tells you. I voted 'no' at the EGM because I don't trust him when it comes to selling the club to investors. He's got a vested interest and shouldn't be doing the negotiations. Nobody knows what promises and agreements have been done in the background to reimburse other people's shares neither. I think thats a very important point, too many big investors keeping quiet and allowing Gauge to do a deal, a fella who nearly cocked up just a couple of months ago.
This needs to be led by the Trust and other individuals with no vested financial interest. If people want to refuse to believe that the Chairman wouldn't involve himself with the likes of Brayne again and his priority is the football club first then that's up to them..it's bloody naive though and I thought we'd learned lessons as a fan base after the Bottomley fiasco. Other investors have now come forward and of course they will do their due diligence on the club and the Chairman etc, they will also do due diligence on the competition and other investors in the process. That in itself often sorts the wheat from the Chaff out and maybe that's what we are now seeing with this thread? It will all come out of the wash though, it always does and then individuals have to live with the consequences of their actions.
Chairman who openly threaten and use words or menace to shareholders at a EGM in order to coerce them into voting a certain way is also illegal and that's something that will be pursued now. It's even more serious and a criminal offence if it's proved that the Chairman and others are to receive monetary gain as a result of the outcome of the vote. That will also be persued by shareholders and other agencies. The EGM should have been stopped at that point and the result of the vote should now be declared null and void. The Trust should have intervened following his ridiculous address. He should know better, the fans wont just let him do what he wants with the club. I would again suggest that the Trust call a EGM next week with a view to removing Gauge from his position and also other Directors, a vote of no confidence in any of them is now required. [Post edited 9 Mar 7:12]
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| Nicholas brayne on 06:12 - Mar 9 with 6614 views | ThreeLions |
| Nicholas brayne on 05:25 - Mar 9 by TalkingSutty |
I believe this to be true and Brayne is brokering this deal with WSH. The same Brayne who nearly stitched Gauge and the club up a couple of months ago with a bunch of shysters. Brayne will join the board of Directors, Gauge will get a chunk of his money back and will remain in place to continue running the club. Brayne will also get his commission for brokering the deal. WSH get the club on the cheap. Gauge was gutted when the fans exposed Brayne and his merry men, he blamed the collapse of the deal on the fans remember. Come on everybody, wake up please and for god sake stop believing what Gauge tells you. I voted 'no' at the EGM because I don't trust him when it comes to selling the club to investors. He's got a vested interest and shouldn't be doing the negotiations. Nobody knows what promises and agreements have been done in the background to reimburse other people's shares neither. I think thats a very important point, too many big investors keeping quiet and allowing Gauge to do a deal, a fella who nearly cocked up just a couple of months ago.
This needs to be led by the Trust and other individuals with no vested financial interest. If people want to refuse to believe that the Chairman wouldn't involve himself with the likes of Brayne again and his priority is the football club first then that's up to them..it's bloody naive though and I thought we'd learned lessons as a fan base after the Bottomley fiasco. Other investors have now come forward and of course they will do their due diligence on the club and the Chairman etc, they will also do due diligence on the competition and other investors in the process. That in itself often sorts the wheat from the Chaff out and maybe that's what we are now seeing with this thread? It will all come out of the wash though, it always does and then individuals have to live with the consequences of their actions.
Chairman who openly threaten and use words or menace to shareholders at a EGM in order to coerce them into voting a certain way is also illegal and that's something that will be pursued now. It's even more serious and a criminal offence if it's proved that the Chairman and others are to receive monetary gain as a result of the outcome of the vote. That will also be persued by shareholders and other agencies. The EGM should have been stopped at that point and the result of the vote should now be declared null and void. The Trust should have intervened following his ridiculous address. He should know better, the fans wont just let him do what he wants with the club. I would again suggest that the Trust call a EGM next week with a view to removing Gauge from his position and also other Directors, a vote of no confidence in any of them is now required. [Post edited 9 Mar 7:12]
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Well that puts a different light on the WSH bid which at first glance I would have gone with over the other lot. Now it seems this first bid is clouded by shysters yet again. I think which ever way we go forward now there is going to be some shite heading our way. |  | | |
| Nicholas brayne on 06:18 - Mar 9 with 6604 views | TalkingSutty |
| Nicholas brayne on 06:12 - Mar 9 by ThreeLions |
Well that puts a different light on the WSH bid which at first glance I would have gone with over the other lot. Now it seems this first bid is clouded by shysters yet again. I think which ever way we go forward now there is going to be some shite heading our way. |
We have too many fans who aren't really arsed though and just take everything Simon Gauge says as gospel. One long standing poster on here even suggested we should just buckle up and enjoy the ride and if we get another two seasons out of it that will be a bonus. What a diabolical way to treat your football club, we've all fought hard to save the club from the clutches of MH and Bottomley and his cronies etc and to just sit quiet and let those in the Boardroom do as they want with the club isn't good enough, it's not a option for some of us. At the EGM Gauge addressed the shareholders just as they were about to vote, unfortunately for him his recorded drivel has ignited a fire that will now never go out as long as he's associated with this club. Long standing, respected and elderly shareholders in the room and he speaks as though they are all something he's picked up on the bottom of his shoe, intimidates them into voting a certain way, if they don't he will have them up in front of the press the following morning to explain their actions. He'll also cancel Saturdays match! He's done. [Post edited 9 Mar 7:29]
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| Nicholas brayne on 06:44 - Mar 9 with 6543 views | rochedale |
| Nicholas brayne on 05:25 - Mar 9 by TalkingSutty |
I believe this to be true and Brayne is brokering this deal with WSH. The same Brayne who nearly stitched Gauge and the club up a couple of months ago with a bunch of shysters. Brayne will join the board of Directors, Gauge will get a chunk of his money back and will remain in place to continue running the club. Brayne will also get his commission for brokering the deal. WSH get the club on the cheap. Gauge was gutted when the fans exposed Brayne and his merry men, he blamed the collapse of the deal on the fans remember. Come on everybody, wake up please and for god sake stop believing what Gauge tells you. I voted 'no' at the EGM because I don't trust him when it comes to selling the club to investors. He's got a vested interest and shouldn't be doing the negotiations. Nobody knows what promises and agreements have been done in the background to reimburse other people's shares neither. I think thats a very important point, too many big investors keeping quiet and allowing Gauge to do a deal, a fella who nearly cocked up just a couple of months ago.
This needs to be led by the Trust and other individuals with no vested financial interest. If people want to refuse to believe that the Chairman wouldn't involve himself with the likes of Brayne again and his priority is the football club first then that's up to them..it's bloody naive though and I thought we'd learned lessons as a fan base after the Bottomley fiasco. Other investors have now come forward and of course they will do their due diligence on the club and the Chairman etc, they will also do due diligence on the competition and other investors in the process. That in itself often sorts the wheat from the Chaff out and maybe that's what we are now seeing with this thread? It will all come out of the wash though, it always does and then individuals have to live with the consequences of their actions.
Chairman who openly threaten and use words or menace to shareholders at a EGM in order to coerce them into voting a certain way is also illegal and that's something that will be pursued now. It's even more serious and a criminal offence if it's proved that the Chairman and others are to receive monetary gain as a result of the outcome of the vote. That will also be persued by shareholders and other agencies. The EGM should have been stopped at that point and the result of the vote should now be declared null and void. The Trust should have intervened following his ridiculous address. He should know better, the fans wont just let him do what he wants with the club. I would again suggest that the Trust call a EGM next week with a view to removing Gauge from his position and also other Directors, a vote of no confidence in any of them is now required. [Post edited 9 Mar 7:12]
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Everything you have written there is 100% spot on. I’ve never met Brayne and have no idea of his character and whether he’s a good’n or a bad’n, but given the fact he brokered the last deal with those fraudsters including the American hedge fund owner, James Lawrence, who was actually a mechanic from Preston, doesn’t bode too well.
WSH could be a great deal for us, it really could, but I do believe this second deal will be much better. We need to make this second deal happen, not sure how as fans we do that, but we do.
Simon, you’ll still get your money back, but you need to do what’s best for the club please, not just what suits your family. |  |
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| Nicholas brayne on 07:22 - Mar 9 with 6471 views | D_Alien |
| Nicholas brayne on 05:25 - Mar 9 by TalkingSutty |
I believe this to be true and Brayne is brokering this deal with WSH. The same Brayne who nearly stitched Gauge and the club up a couple of months ago with a bunch of shysters. Brayne will join the board of Directors, Gauge will get a chunk of his money back and will remain in place to continue running the club. Brayne will also get his commission for brokering the deal. WSH get the club on the cheap. Gauge was gutted when the fans exposed Brayne and his merry men, he blamed the collapse of the deal on the fans remember. Come on everybody, wake up please and for god sake stop believing what Gauge tells you. I voted 'no' at the EGM because I don't trust him when it comes to selling the club to investors. He's got a vested interest and shouldn't be doing the negotiations. Nobody knows what promises and agreements have been done in the background to reimburse other people's shares neither. I think thats a very important point, too many big investors keeping quiet and allowing Gauge to do a deal, a fella who nearly cocked up just a couple of months ago.
This needs to be led by the Trust and other individuals with no vested financial interest. If people want to refuse to believe that the Chairman wouldn't involve himself with the likes of Brayne again and his priority is the football club first then that's up to them..it's bloody naive though and I thought we'd learned lessons as a fan base after the Bottomley fiasco. Other investors have now come forward and of course they will do their due diligence on the club and the Chairman etc, they will also do due diligence on the competition and other investors in the process. That in itself often sorts the wheat from the Chaff out and maybe that's what we are now seeing with this thread? It will all come out of the wash though, it always does and then individuals have to live with the consequences of their actions.
Chairman who openly threaten and use words or menace to shareholders at a EGM in order to coerce them into voting a certain way is also illegal and that's something that will be pursued now. It's even more serious and a criminal offence if it's proved that the Chairman and others are to receive monetary gain as a result of the outcome of the vote. That will also be persued by shareholders and other agencies. The EGM should have been stopped at that point and the result of the vote should now be declared null and void. The Trust should have intervened following his ridiculous address. He should know better, the fans wont just let him do what he wants with the club. I would again suggest that the Trust call a EGM next week with a view to removing Gauge from his position and also other Directors, a vote of no confidence in any of them is now required. [Post edited 9 Mar 7:12]
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No-one needs "waking up" we're all perfectly aware Brayne *could* be involved
What's been questioned is why the OP was made by a 'first time' poster - or someone using a different username - who then doesn't reply when asked about their motivation. You rightly call out 'behind the scenes' activity. We're all sick to death of it. People - including whoever posted the OP - should have the bottle to front up
Many Daleys know who you are, know who i am, when we post it's hardly anonymous. Others choose to act in cowardly fashion. Others still, carry out cowardly, despicable actions against those who publicly disagree with them, then disappear up their own stinking arseholes
Sick to death of it, it's these types that are bringing our club down
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| Nicholas brayne on 07:27 - Mar 9 with 6448 views | TalkingSutty |
| Nicholas brayne on 06:44 - Mar 9 by rochedale |
Everything you have written there is 100% spot on. I’ve never met Brayne and have no idea of his character and whether he’s a good’n or a bad’n, but given the fact he brokered the last deal with those fraudsters including the American hedge fund owner, James Lawrence, who was actually a mechanic from Preston, doesn’t bode too well.
WSH could be a great deal for us, it really could, but I do believe this second deal will be much better. We need to make this second deal happen, not sure how as fans we do that, but we do.
Simon, you’ll still get your money back, but you need to do what’s best for the club please, not just what suits your family. |
We don't know how many different investors are involved. All we know is that Gauge is desperate to get his own deal done. He's lost sight that this is a fan owned club and not his. He is answerable to the shareholders. | | | |
| Nicholas brayne on 07:34 - Mar 9 with 6400 views | TalkingSutty |
| Nicholas brayne on 07:22 - Mar 9 by D_Alien |
No-one needs "waking up" we're all perfectly aware Brayne *could* be involved
What's been questioned is why the OP was made by a 'first time' poster - or someone using a different username - who then doesn't reply when asked about their motivation. You rightly call out 'behind the scenes' activity. We're all sick to death of it. People - including whoever posted the OP - should have the bottle to front up
Many Daleys know who you are, know who i am, when we post it's hardly anonymous. Others choose to act in cowardly fashion. Others still, carry out cowardly, despicable actions against those who publicly disagree with them, then disappear up their own stinking arseholes
Sick to death of it, it's these types that are bringing our club down
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I don't think everybody is perfectly aware that Brayne could be involved though. I also think we have a lot of fans who refuse to contemplate that Gauge doesn't have the best interests of the club at heart. You can see that by reading some of the posts and threads. They even think we will be liquidated if he stops funding the club at the end of the month. He's frightened people to death and he was at it again at the EGM on Thursday. There will probably be a legitimate reason why the OP can't reveal his/ her identity on the forum at this moment in time but anonymity is something that they are entitled to on this forum. I agree regarding everything that's going on in the background, the EGM was the cut off point for me, I'm not having the likes of Gauge thinking he can intimidate me after nearly 50 years of supporting the club. The saddest thing was that we just all sat their and accepted it from him. [Post edited 9 Mar 7:42]
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| Nicholas brayne on 07:40 - Mar 9 with 6359 views | D_Alien |
| Nicholas brayne on 07:34 - Mar 9 by TalkingSutty |
I don't think everybody is perfectly aware that Brayne could be involved though. I also think we have a lot of fans who refuse to contemplate that Gauge doesn't have the best interests of the club at heart. You can see that by reading some of the posts and threads. They even think we will be liquidated if he stops funding the club at the end of the month. He's frightened people to death and he was at it again at the EGM on Thursday. There will probably be a legitimate reason why the OP can't reveal his/ her identity on the forum at this moment in time but anonymity is something that they are entitled to on this forum. I agree regarding everything that's going on in the background, the EGM was the cut off point for me, I'm not having the likes of Gauge thinking he can intimidate me after nearly 50 years of supporting the club. The saddest thing was that we just all sat their and accepted it from him. [Post edited 9 Mar 7:42]
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Yes i know, i was there
If someone wants to put information on here, let them do so in a way that doesn't bring a hidden agenda into it - that's my point
We've had one particular poster using a cloak of a username to spread the agenda of SG on here for the past year or so, yet many people took him as being someone with integrity
It ALL needs calling out, it's Dale at stake, you can call out 'behind the scenes' and that's what the OP is part of too
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| Nicholas brayne on 07:50 - Mar 9 with 6283 views | TalkingSutty |
| Nicholas brayne on 07:40 - Mar 9 by D_Alien |
Yes i know, i was there
If someone wants to put information on here, let them do so in a way that doesn't bring a hidden agenda into it - that's my point
We've had one particular poster using a cloak of a username to spread the agenda of SG on here for the past year or so, yet many people took him as being someone with integrity
It ALL needs calling out, it's Dale at stake, you can call out 'behind the scenes' and that's what the OP is part of too
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Yes i understand that but maybe they think it's about time the people who matter most in all of this, the fans, where actually given a bit of insight into what's going on with their club behind the scenes. We had a blind vote the other night at the EGM on the say so of the person who wants to recoup his money, the Chairman. It's not good enough. In fact as a fan owned club is a ridiculous situation to have been put in.
Regarding Gauge's bag man, he lost his credibility a long time ago. [Post edited 9 Mar 8:06]
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| Nicholas brayne on 08:03 - Mar 9 with 6228 views | D_Alien |
| Nicholas brayne on 07:50 - Mar 9 by TalkingSutty |
Yes i understand that but maybe they think it's about time the people who matter most in all of this, the fans, where actually given a bit of insight into what's going on with their club behind the scenes. We had a blind vote the other night at the EGM on the say so of the person who wants to recoup his money, the Chairman. It's not good enough. In fact as a fan owned club is a ridiculous situation to have been put in.
Regarding Gauge's bag man, he lost his credibility a long time ago. [Post edited 9 Mar 8:06]
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That's history now
I can't agree about the OP, whatever their situation
If they had anything about them they'd at least have responded to being asked what their agenda was. They still can, we'll see | |
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| Nicholas brayne on 08:15 - Mar 9 with 6172 views | wozzrafc |
| Nicholas brayne on 07:40 - Mar 9 by D_Alien |
Yes i know, i was there
If someone wants to put information on here, let them do so in a way that doesn't bring a hidden agenda into it - that's my point
We've had one particular poster using a cloak of a username to spread the agenda of SG on here for the past year or so, yet many people took him as being someone with integrity
It ALL needs calling out, it's Dale at stake, you can call out 'behind the scenes' and that's what the OP is part of too
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We need to be careful posting on Rumour. If some one has FACT then put your head above the parapet post with your name and give the info to the Trust.
We don’t anything yet about any bid, it’s people, plans or finances good or bad. If you do put your evidence out with your name.
Last time there was proof and it was rightly called out. We don’t know about any of the bids people, ideas or finances good or bad. But committing on rumour could damage a legitimate did.
I refer to the trust statement were they challenged the names given :
“With regards the named person we had looked into, he has acted to introduce WSH to Rochdale. There is no fee involved for him. Currently, he is not active at WSH but this may change.”
We know WSH own a chunk of MMV Maastricht and some of there fans have verified that they are involved in their club.
Yes be vigilant but we need to be careful commenting on here [Post edited 9 Mar 8:20]
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| Nicholas brayne on 08:18 - Mar 9 with 6159 views | TalkingSutty |
| Nicholas brayne on 08:03 - Mar 9 by D_Alien |
That's history now
I can't agree about the OP, whatever their situation
If they had anything about them they'd at least have responded to being asked what their agenda was. They still can, we'll see |
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| Nicholas brayne on 08:20 - Mar 9 with 6137 views | Down_the_Ale |
| Nicholas brayne on 05:25 - Mar 9 by TalkingSutty |
I believe this to be true and Brayne is brokering this deal with WSH. The same Brayne who nearly stitched Gauge and the club up a couple of months ago with a bunch of shysters. Brayne will join the board of Directors, Gauge will get a chunk of his money back and will remain in place to continue running the club. Brayne will also get his commission for brokering the deal. WSH get the club on the cheap. Gauge was gutted when the fans exposed Brayne and his merry men, he blamed the collapse of the deal on the fans remember. Come on everybody, wake up please and for god sake stop believing what Gauge tells you. I voted 'no' at the EGM because I don't trust him when it comes to selling the club to investors. He's got a vested interest and shouldn't be doing the negotiations. Nobody knows what promises and agreements have been done in the background to reimburse other people's shares neither. I think thats a very important point, too many big investors keeping quiet and allowing Gauge to do a deal, a fella who nearly cocked up just a couple of months ago.
This needs to be led by the Trust and other individuals with no vested financial interest. If people want to refuse to believe that the Chairman wouldn't involve himself with the likes of Brayne again and his priority is the football club first then that's up to them..it's bloody naive though and I thought we'd learned lessons as a fan base after the Bottomley fiasco. Other investors have now come forward and of course they will do their due diligence on the club and the Chairman etc, they will also do due diligence on the competition and other investors in the process. That in itself often sorts the wheat from the Chaff out and maybe that's what we are now seeing with this thread? It will all come out of the wash though, it always does and then individuals have to live with the consequences of their actions.
Chairman who openly threaten and use words or menace to shareholders at a EGM in order to coerce them into voting a certain way is also illegal and that's something that will be pursued now. It's even more serious and a criminal offence if it's proved that the Chairman and others are to receive monetary gain as a result of the outcome of the vote. That will also be persued by shareholders and other agencies. The EGM should have been stopped at that point and the result of the vote should now be declared null and void. The Trust should have intervened following his ridiculous address. He should know better, the fans wont just let him do what he wants with the club. I would again suggest that the Trust call a EGM next week with a view to removing Gauge from his position and also other Directors, a vote of no confidence in any of them is now required. [Post edited 9 Mar 7:12]
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Agree. Would you vote to get rid of the full board? How do we call an EGM, does it have to be shareholders with a minimum number of shares, or a certain number of shareholders? | | | |
| Nicholas brayne on 08:24 - Mar 9 with 6095 views | TalkingSutty |
| Nicholas brayne on 08:15 - Mar 9 by wozzrafc |
We need to be careful posting on Rumour. If some one has FACT then put your head above the parapet post with your name and give the info to the Trust.
We don’t anything yet about any bid, it’s people, plans or finances good or bad. If you do put your evidence out with your name.
Last time there was proof and it was rightly called out. We don’t know about any of the bids people, ideas or finances good or bad. But committing on rumour could damage a legitimate did.
I refer to the trust statement were they challenged the names given :
“With regards the named person we had looked into, he has acted to introduce WSH to Rochdale. There is no fee involved for him. Currently, he is not active at WSH but this may change.”
We know WSH own a chunk of MMV Maastricht and some of there fans have verified that they are involved in their club.
Yes be vigilant but we need to be careful commenting on here [Post edited 9 Mar 8:20]
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Brayne introduced a bunch of shysters to the club, the Chairman engaged with them and then blamed the fans for doing due diligence. That's not a rumour. The OP is confirming a rumour that Brayne is involved again with WSH, the fans are right to be concerned and post about it on their forum. Plenty of other fans have heard this rumour as alluded to by a previous post on here. The Chairman and anybody else who has done due diligence can either confirm or deny the rumour. If its true then shareholders should have been made aware of it prior to the vote at the EGM. [Post edited 9 Mar 8:27]
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| Nicholas brayne on 08:51 - Mar 9 with 5960 views | RobPHolmes |
First time poster on here, though as a fan of 40 years always an interested observer of the discussions.
My user name is my name. Some will know me some won’t, but no agendas on my part just something I thought was interesting as a follow up to Talkingsutty‘s posts.
Cards on the table. I voted against the motion. I don’t hold our Chairman in particularly high esteem, and I’m very much in the camp of ‘start again as a fan owned club at lower level with a sustainable business model’. I have mates that are Dale fans and have debated this to death. We disagree on the vote and the way forward but it won’t stop us having a pint tonight.
The crux of this is the suggestion that there may be some share deals that have gone on in the background, so I will share an email conversation I had with out COO. I appointed GD as my proxy and he replied that he may not attend the EGM as there are rules in place that prohibit members of staff attending EGM’s. I checked the last share register to check the GD was indeed a shareholder and challenged him on this pointing out that as a shareholder he was 100% entitled to attend. The response I got was an interesting one, and I quote “I note the observation but assume that you must be referring to the latest confirmation statement which is June 2023. There have been numerous alterations to this in the last 8 months which will be reflected in the June 2024 submission”. I again challenged him on this and asked if he was suggesting that he had disposed of his shares in some way, but received no response.
People can interpret this how they wish. I just thought it was a pretty interesting conversation given what has subsequently allegedly come to light.
Happy to share a screenshot of the email, if someone can tell me how to do it ! | | | |
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