| Ashes 2023 16:47 - Jun 8 with 102504 views | Hoopstar |
Ah the home Ashes series is almost upon us, my personal favourite sporting event (not down under, that's just generally depressing.) I need something big sporting wise to focus on and quit my worrying about QPR for a while.
Anyone going?
I was at the first day of the World Test Championship at the Oval yesterday. The Aussies looked in depressingly good nick with the bat and their pace attack appears as terrifying as ever.
I think it's going to be an exciting, tough, tense series that'll go down to the wire. I only managed to get tickets to the very final day of the Ashes on 31st July at the Oval, you never know.
I predict...
Crawley to average less than 20 with Duckett getting closer to mid 30s
Brook to really secure his position as an outstanding talent and mainstay of the team
Pope to struggle again~
Root, in what could be his last home Ashes, proving his worth again
Bairstow - haven't a clue which version turns up post broken foot
Broad - an Ashes too far? You'd be mad to write him or Jimmy off.
Robinson to nab Smith at least four times..
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| Ashes 2023 on 11:38 - Jul 18 with 2230 views | robith |
Khawaja is a player I have immense respect for, but that latest piece by him is a bit weak imo. Complaining about the crowd calling Head a c bomb, when Head was stood there conducting them and revelling it is a bit strange.
Something slightly off about this current Aussie team seemingly wanting everyone to sit in silence and adore them. They were so rattled by the reaction they got at Lords, in a way I couldn't help but think how the 2001-2007 side would've been loving it and would never have let England get as close as they did |  | | |
| Ashes 2023 on 11:51 - Jul 18 with 2202 views | SydneyRs |
| Ashes 2023 on 11:38 - Jul 18 by robith |
Khawaja is a player I have immense respect for, but that latest piece by him is a bit weak imo. Complaining about the crowd calling Head a c bomb, when Head was stood there conducting them and revelling it is a bit strange.
Something slightly off about this current Aussie team seemingly wanting everyone to sit in silence and adore them. They were so rattled by the reaction they got at Lords, in a way I couldn't help but think how the 2001-2007 side would've been loving it and would never have let England get as close as they did |
They're a good side, but not as good as they seem to think and nowhere near the class of that early 2000s team. |  | | |
| Ashes 2023 on 12:31 - Jul 18 with 2157 views | Hoopstar |
I was always playing cricket growing up in NE London I the 90s. Dad was a big fan and most of my mates I grew up with on my street were from Pakistani or Tamil families and so completely nuts for it. We played for local clubs like Brondesbury and South Hampstead but me and my mate Haider were the only state school kids really involved and getting a game.We both gave up around 15 as there was so much classism and, in Haiders case, racism to deal with. Even at 15 Haider had arms the size of a track sprint cyclists thighs so that was an interesting approach.
Living down in Sussex now and cricket is very much the main sport - its just absolutely mad for it. We've got 5 Saturday XIs, a Sunday XI and 300+ kids in our oversubscribed juniors section in our little town alone. | | | |
| Ashes 2023 on 13:15 - Jul 18 with 2107 views | Rs_Holy |
looking at the forecast I reckon we will have to beat the Aussies in 3 days :( [Post edited 18 Jul 2023 13:18]
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| Ashes 2023 on 13:30 - Jul 18 with 2071 views | TheChef |
| Ashes 2023 on 11:38 - Jul 18 by robith |
Khawaja is a player I have immense respect for, but that latest piece by him is a bit weak imo. Complaining about the crowd calling Head a c bomb, when Head was stood there conducting them and revelling it is a bit strange.
Something slightly off about this current Aussie team seemingly wanting everyone to sit in silence and adore them. They were so rattled by the reaction they got at Lords, in a way I couldn't help but think how the 2001-2007 side would've been loving it and would never have let England get as close as they did |
Especially since the home crowds in Oz are so polite and respectful...
Although do occasionally have their moments:
"Oi, Tufnell. Lend us your brain, we're building an idiot!" |  |
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| Ashes 2023 on 23:23 - Jul 18 with 1963 views | SydneyRs |
| Ashes 2023 on 13:30 - Jul 18 by TheChef |
Especially since the home crowds in Oz are so polite and respectful...
Although do occasionally have their moments:
"Oi, Tufnell. Lend us your brain, we're building an idiot!" |
Always loved Mark Waugh's nickname Afghanistan, the forgotten Waugh đ.
Also Waugh once told someone playing for England, can't recall who, he wasn't good enough to be there. The response was "at least I'm the best player in my family". | | | |
| Ashes 2023 on 04:58 - Jul 19 with 1918 views | swisscottage |
| Ashes 2023 on 13:15 - Jul 18 by Rs_Holy |
looking at the forecast I reckon we will have to beat the Aussies in 3 days :( [Post edited 18 Jul 2023 13:18]
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Doesn't look good does it. Saturday will be a washout it looks like, and quite possibly Sunday.
With the bad weather on the last two days, there's no possibility of extending subsequent day's play for a few extra overs either.
With the weather looking the same today/tomorrow, if England win the toss, I would expect them to bat first and come out blazing to get a total to put the Aussies in an hour before the close. [Post edited 19 Jul 2023 5:01]
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| Ashes 2023 on 07:09 - Jul 19 with 1864 views | Hunterhoop |
| Ashes 2023 on 04:58 - Jul 19 by swisscottage |
Doesn't look good does it. Saturday will be a washout it looks like, and quite possibly Sunday.
With the bad weather on the last two days, there's no possibility of extending subsequent day's play for a few extra overs either.
With the weather looking the same today/tomorrow, if England win the toss, I would expect them to bat first and come out blazing to get a total to put the Aussies in an hour before the close. [Post edited 19 Jul 2023 5:01]
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Surely, Surely, Eng have to bowl first?! If there is only 3 days of play you have to give yourselves the best chance of taking 20 wickets. You canât win a test match without doing this. So you have to bowl first and hope to bowl them out cheaply. Then go past their score, bowl them out again, and chase what you can.
If England bat first. Even if they bat quickly, they take a day out of the game. Then itâs all about if Aus make the follow on. If they do, the game is over. England might do something funky and forfeit their second innings to try to get to time to bowl them out, but itâs unlikely if there are still over 2 days left in the Test even if the weather is rubbish.
I cannot see any way you can win with the weather forecast batting first. |  | | |
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| Ashes 2023 on 08:56 - Jul 19 with 1805 views | Hooparoo |
| Ashes 2023 on 07:09 - Jul 19 by Hunterhoop |
Surely, Surely, Eng have to bowl first?! If there is only 3 days of play you have to give yourselves the best chance of taking 20 wickets. You canât win a test match without doing this. So you have to bowl first and hope to bowl them out cheaply. Then go past their score, bowl them out again, and chase what you can.
If England bat first. Even if they bat quickly, they take a day out of the game. Then itâs all about if Aus make the follow on. If they do, the game is over. England might do something funky and forfeit their second innings to try to get to time to bowl them out, but itâs unlikely if there are still over 2 days left in the Test even if the weather is rubbish.
I cannot see any way you can win with the weather forecast batting first. |
Nah. If Aussies win the toss theyâll bat first and try to crack on to 400+ in 3-4 sessions then unleash the quicks. |  |
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| Ashes 2023 on 09:04 - Jul 19 with 1790 views | CamberleyR |
| Ashes 2023 on 23:23 - Jul 18 by SydneyRs |
Always loved Mark Waugh's nickname Afghanistan, the forgotten Waugh đ.
Also Waugh once told someone playing for England, can't recall who, he wasn't good enough to be there. The response was "at least I'm the best player in my family". |
It was fast bowler Jimmy Ormond. Top sledge that. |  |
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| Ashes 2023 on 09:28 - Jul 19 with 1752 views | Hunterhoop |
| Ashes 2023 on 08:56 - Jul 19 by Hooparoo |
Nah. If Aussies win the toss theyâll bat first and try to crack on to 400+ in 3-4 sessions then unleash the quicks. |
If Aus win the toss and bat first, they are stupid.
The fact they have picked no spinner and an extra batting allrounder makes me pretty sure theyâll bowl first. | | | |
| Ashes 2023 on 09:37 - Jul 19 with 1733 views | BlackCrowe |
| Ashes 2023 on 09:28 - Jul 19 by Hunterhoop |
If Aus win the toss and bat first, they are stupid.
The fact they have picked no spinner and an extra batting allrounder makes me pretty sure theyâll bowl first. |
Agree with this. If there's going to be c.3 days of play due to rain delays then we need Oz to bat first and try and get them out cheapish in the first innings to stand any chance of winning. Australia don't need to win to retain the Ashes. |  |
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| Ashes 2023 on 10:20 - Jul 19 with 1672 views | swisscottage |
| Ashes 2023 on 07:09 - Jul 19 by Hunterhoop |
Surely, Surely, Eng have to bowl first?! If there is only 3 days of play you have to give yourselves the best chance of taking 20 wickets. You canât win a test match without doing this. So you have to bowl first and hope to bowl them out cheaply. Then go past their score, bowl them out again, and chase what you can.
If England bat first. Even if they bat quickly, they take a day out of the game. Then itâs all about if Aus make the follow on. If they do, the game is over. England might do something funky and forfeit their second innings to try to get to time to bowl them out, but itâs unlikely if there are still over 2 days left in the Test even if the weather is rubbish.
I cannot see any way you can win with the weather forecast batting first. |
yes you are right, I was just thinking England hope to post 400 in 2 -1/2 sessions and knock of 4 Aussie wickets in the evening session .. but you are right without knowing whether there would be any play on day 4 or 5, even if England did Bowl the Aussies out cheaply in the first innings, they'd run a significant risk of setting an inadequate last innings total if they played for 3 days play only.
This quote from Trescothick today, implies they'd bowls first if they win the toss:
"I've seen a bit of a pitch report and I think it'll be a pitch with good pace as we go along. But it might do a little bit more today, so that that might play into whoever wins the toss might want, and it might depend on the weather."
Also from BBC meteorologist.. is basically noone can predict what Sunday's weather will be yet.
"Saturday could potentially be a washout as a deepening low pressure system looks set to bring widespread rain and strengthening winds.
"The difficult bit for us forecasters right now is what then happens then for the final day on Sunday. Whilst there is a chance that rain will linger over Old Trafford, thereâs low to moderate chance that it couldâve slipped further south, allowing more play." [Post edited 19 Jul 2023 10:22]
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| Ashes 2023 on 10:24 - Jul 19 with 1665 views | Hooparoo |
| Ashes 2023 on 09:28 - Jul 19 by Hunterhoop |
If Aus win the toss and bat first, they are stupid.
The fact they have picked no spinner and an extra batting allrounder makes me pretty sure theyâll bowl first. |
Travis Head bowls off spin and Smith started his career as a leg spinner. Spin doesnât win you matches in England fast seam and swing bowlers do. And all this talk of Australia only need a draw, we always play to win not draw. [Post edited 19 Jul 2023 10:25]
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| Ashes 2023 on 10:33 - Jul 19 with 1639 views | Hunterhoop |
There we go. England win the toss and bowl. As they had to.
And Pat Cummins admits theyâd have bowled too. | | | |
| Ashes 2023 on 10:33 - Jul 19 with 1638 views | Rangersw12 |
| Ashes 2023 on 10:24 - Jul 19 by Hooparoo |
Travis Head bowls off spin and Smith started his career as a leg spinner. Spin doesnât win you matches in England fast seam and swing bowlers do. And all this talk of Australia only need a draw, we always play to win not draw. [Post edited 19 Jul 2023 10:25]
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Whilst picking a team that is clearly chosen to draw the game
Old Trafford always spins so not picking a proper spinner is ridiculous and is obviously a defensive move
So much for this always play to win nonsense from the runts of the commonwealth | | | |
| Ashes 2023 on 10:46 - Jul 19 with 1608 views | Hooparoo |
| Ashes 2023 on 10:33 - Jul 19 by Rangersw12 |
Whilst picking a team that is clearly chosen to draw the game
Old Trafford always spins so not picking a proper spinner is ridiculous and is obviously a defensive move
So much for this always play to win nonsense from the runts of the commonwealth |
And people who resort to insults have already lost any credibility. Keep it civil mate, remember weâre all here because weâre all Rs. | |
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| Ashes 2023 on 10:59 - Jul 19 with 1578 views | Rangersw12 |
| Ashes 2023 on 10:46 - Jul 19 by Hooparoo |
And people who resort to insults have already lost any credibility. Keep it civil mate, remember weâre all here because weâre all Rs. |
Ah bless
I thought it was us who were supposed to be the whinging ones.... | | | |
| Ashes 2023 on 17:05 - Jul 19 with 1446 views | Monkey_Roots |
What a catch! |  | | |
| Ashes 2023 on 17:06 - Jul 19 with 1442 views | w7r |
Excellent catch - Bairstow's partial redemption for previous cock-ups. [Post edited 19 Jul 2023 17:09]
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| Ashes 2023 on 17:19 - Jul 19 with 1413 views | terryb |
Am I right in thinking that Stuart Broad now has 600 test wickets? | | | |
| Ashes 2023 on 17:21 - Jul 19 with 2169 views | flynnbo |
| Ashes 2023 on 17:19 - Jul 19 by terryb |
Am I right in thinking that Stuart Broad now has 600 test wickets? |
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| Ashes 2023 on 17:29 - Jul 19 with 2137 views | stowmarketrange |
| Ashes 2023 on 09:04 - Jul 19 by CamberleyR |
It was fast bowler Jimmy Ormond. Top sledge that. |
One of the Aussie players told Stuart Broad a few years ago that heâd shagged his sister and would that make them brothers?No said Broad,that would make us even. |  | | |
| Ashes 2023 on 17:50 - Jul 19 with 2094 views | QPRMendoza |
Two of the all-time best sledges:
During a one-day match between Australia and Zimbabwe in 1996, McGrath was becoming increasingly frustrated with Brandesâ attempts at the big heave-ho outside off-stump. After several play-and-misses, McGrath looked big Eddo up and politely enquired: âWhy are you so fat?â As quick-as-a-flash, Brandes retorted: âBecause every time I make love to your wife she gives me a biscuit.â
After playing-and-missing at a number of his deliveries in a county game in England, Thomas sarcastically told Richards: âItâs red, round and weighs about five ounces, in case you were wondering.â Richards proceeded to hit the next ball out of the ground and calmly replied: âYou know what it looks like, now you go and find it.â | | | |
| Ashes 2023 on 17:56 - Jul 19 with 2078 views | CheshireR |
Mrs Chesh is at Old Trafford today and has spotted and been chatting to former Aussie 90's R Andrew McDermott. |  | | |
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