There’s a new chairman in town 17:21 - May 5 with 7292 views | AguycalledJack | Andy coleman | | | | |
There’s a new chairman in town on 17:32 - May 5 with 5845 views | KeithHaynes | New investor, he’s mustard apparently. | |
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There’s a new chairman in town on 17:36 - May 5 with 5786 views | Dr_Parnassus | VERY competent guy, incredibly sharp. | |
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There’s a new chairman in town on 17:39 - May 5 with 5804 views | QJumpingJack | Didn't Pearlman come from DC United? | | | |
There’s a new chairman in town on 17:39 - May 5 with 5803 views | KeithHaynes |
There’s a new chairman in town on 17:36 - May 5 by Dr_Parnassus | VERY competent guy, incredibly sharp. |
Tasty and not Ham fisted, but will he fit in the Marsh / Winter Sandwich ? | |
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There’s a new chairman in town on 17:50 - May 5 with 5738 views | Dr_Winston | "We play an exciting brand of football under a terrific young head coach in Russell Martin" Judgement already in question. | |
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There’s a new chairman in town on 17:53 - May 5 with 5715 views | Whiterockin |
There’s a new chairman in town on 17:50 - May 5 by Dr_Winston | "We play an exciting brand of football under a terrific young head coach in Russell Martin" Judgement already in question. |
New contract incoming. | | | |
There’s a new chairman in town on 17:56 - May 5 with 5675 views | Dr_Winston |
There’s a new chairman in town on 17:53 - May 5 by Whiterockin | New contract incoming. |
Probably. Truly staggering how someone can deliver such mediocre performance and get lauded/rewarded for it. He must have the same agent as Martinez. | |
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There’s a new chairman in town on 17:58 - May 5 with 5636 views | Dr_Parnassus |
There’s a new chairman in town on 17:56 - May 5 by Dr_Winston | Probably. Truly staggering how someone can deliver such mediocre performance and get lauded/rewarded for it. He must have the same agent as Martinez. |
It won’t be up to Coleman, he’s just chairman. The footballing decisions will be driven by the Sporting Director. | |
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There’s a new chairman in town on 18:43 - May 5 with 5546 views | KeithHaynes |
There’s a new chairman in town on 17:58 - May 5 by Dr_Parnassus | It won’t be up to Coleman, he’s just chairman. The footballing decisions will be driven by the Sporting Director. |
These titles are crazy, do you mean Watson ? | |
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There’s a new chairman in town on 20:49 - May 5 with 5363 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
There’s a new chairman in town on 17:56 - May 5 by Dr_Winston | Probably. Truly staggering how someone can deliver such mediocre performance and get lauded/rewarded for it. He must have the same agent as Martinez. |
New dawn need start fresh wind of change and then out of the blue "Naghts deserves a new contract". The first test for Watson. What do Wasiri Williams, Brandon Cooper think of that? Do not unpack the suitcase I reckon. Kai Ludvigsen? He cannot get in this modest Mid table team created by Martin. It is not a charity for good people a but a club needing hard focused hungry talented footballers. One manager favourite in Lartibeaudree is enough but not two who struggle massively at times. | |
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There’s a new chairman in town on 21:59 - May 5 with 5238 views | Thrasher6 |
There’s a new chairman in town on 18:43 - May 5 by KeithHaynes | These titles are crazy, do you mean Watson ? |
Image of Holmes...with pipe in hand... | |
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There’s a new chairman in town on 22:02 - May 5 with 5211 views | Dr_Parnassus |
There’s a new chairman in town on 18:43 - May 5 by KeithHaynes | These titles are crazy, do you mean Watson ? |
Watson will be similar to a traditional DoF. Chairmen don’t tend to make the footballing decisions with a SD in situ, we are used to chairmen doing that sort of thing simply because of Huw Jenkins who acted as both in tandem. Coleman will be responsible for maintaining the relationships between stakeholders and ensuring the club is running efficiently day to day. Watson will be key in the player acquisition, footballing direction and chief negotiator in and out. Then the wider ownership group will be overseeing it all and ensuring everyone is doing as they should. Both come with excellent track records in all of the above, future is bright. [Post edited 5 May 2023 22:03]
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There’s a new chairman in town on 23:03 - May 5 with 5113 views | Thrasher6 |
There’s a new chairman in town on 22:02 - May 5 by Dr_Parnassus | Watson will be similar to a traditional DoF. Chairmen don’t tend to make the footballing decisions with a SD in situ, we are used to chairmen doing that sort of thing simply because of Huw Jenkins who acted as both in tandem. Coleman will be responsible for maintaining the relationships between stakeholders and ensuring the club is running efficiently day to day. Watson will be key in the player acquisition, footballing direction and chief negotiator in and out. Then the wider ownership group will be overseeing it all and ensuring everyone is doing as they should. Both come with excellent track records in all of the above, future is bright. [Post edited 5 May 2023 22:03]
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It is exciting....I like Nigel Morris as well being on board as well. A serious player in business. Hopefully the future could be bright. | |
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There’s a new chairman in town on 23:12 - May 5 with 5087 views | Badlands | Much approval for the incoming group who really are venture capitalists, as apposed to the Consortium leaders who were simply businessmen and sports fans. | |
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There’s a new chairman in town on 23:13 - May 5 with 5084 views | STID2017 |
There’s a new chairman in town on 22:02 - May 5 by Dr_Parnassus | Watson will be similar to a traditional DoF. Chairmen don’t tend to make the footballing decisions with a SD in situ, we are used to chairmen doing that sort of thing simply because of Huw Jenkins who acted as both in tandem. Coleman will be responsible for maintaining the relationships between stakeholders and ensuring the club is running efficiently day to day. Watson will be key in the player acquisition, footballing direction and chief negotiator in and out. Then the wider ownership group will be overseeing it all and ensuring everyone is doing as they should. Both come with excellent track records in all of the above, future is bright. [Post edited 5 May 2023 22:03]
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Hope Watson makes himself at Holme(s) | |
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There’s a new chairman in town on 23:13 - May 5 with 5069 views | Dr_Parnassus |
There’s a new chairman in town on 23:12 - May 5 by Badlands | Much approval for the incoming group who really are venture capitalists, as apposed to the Consortium leaders who were simply businessmen and sports fans. |
Venture capitalists and consortiums are the same thing in essence. Huw Jenkins was part of a consortium who improved the club and sold it, that’s venture capitalism. | |
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There’s a new chairman in town on 23:47 - May 5 with 5030 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
There’s a new chairman in town on 23:13 - May 5 by Dr_Parnassus | Venture capitalists and consortiums are the same thing in essence. Huw Jenkins was part of a consortium who improved the club and sold it, that’s venture capitalism. |
The previous ownership were cast as humble local people with the club foremost in their concern and personal gain a secondary consideration. This was a fake characterisation. Neither Mr Katzan nor his French business partner were fans. They were and probably still are Venture capitalists. One big success like Swansea can cover for several dud investments. One was a rugby fan. Dutch guy had a profitable punt. It was surprising they stayed with the club so long but the timing the exit was optimal. The club finances were starting to creak. Jenkins flag-posted it with the sale of Shelvey but no one took any notice. Jenkins and co did not improve the club. The club was completely rebuilt from the ashes of the Vetch which i contest was a health and safety hazard. They did not cut and run and fill their pockets. They built slowly and left a lasting legacy to the city in playing and coaching staff academy and top notch infrastructure. They deserve huge credit but are not getting it off the fans. It is a disgrace and suggests to me a lack of basic decency . The ending was unsatisfactory but most empires /eras end badly. Fans like owners to lose money not make money. Owners like Steve Gibson at Middlesborough. He has lost a fortune and put the club ab head of his own family. Bet365 are no doubt popular in Stoke. Neither team over the last 20 years has won a trophy or done better than Swansea. If Boro fail to get promotion both clubs start level with Swansea in August. The new investors are buying cheap shares hoping to see a 10x multiple with promotion. Promotion is possible with a £10m transfer budget in a depressed transfer market, a sold basic playing squad a good philosophy and a thriving academy. Naughton and Latibeaudiere is probably not what the new owners want to see in new signings. The signs are very good. My main concern is the focus of the manager for points and promotion. There should have been a desperation to win at Hull. It was his first "critical " 'win or bust' game and he failed the rehearsal. Talk of given Naughton a new deal seems like a sentimental reward for a loyal player no longer at Championship standard depriving a youngster of an opportunity that is. With modest cash Ogbene, Key, Drameh, Philognene, Cannon come into range along with some very decent loan signings. These are player I have heard of and seen play and many more I have not. Piroe and Manning can also be prepared to sign knowing the club has "ambition" (cash) | |
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There’s a new chairman in town on 08:05 - May 6 with 4884 views | sw02sea | Another Chris Pearlman, Remember him ? He was brought in (by his American buddies) as C.O.O on £500,000 pa to bring in additional commercial revenues. His one achievement? Opening a club shop in Union st, only to close after not very long. Now we have Pearlman mark 2, saying how much he loves the City, and how wonderful the people. I wonder how long this one will lasts, before he leaves with a very heavy heart, after pocketing a sizeable wedge (from his America buddies) 💰💰💰 | | | |
There’s a new chairman in town on 08:28 - May 6 with 4843 views | Dr_Parnassus |
There’s a new chairman in town on 08:05 - May 6 by sw02sea | Another Chris Pearlman, Remember him ? He was brought in (by his American buddies) as C.O.O on £500,000 pa to bring in additional commercial revenues. His one achievement? Opening a club shop in Union st, only to close after not very long. Now we have Pearlman mark 2, saying how much he loves the City, and how wonderful the people. I wonder how long this one will lasts, before he leaves with a very heavy heart, after pocketing a sizeable wedge (from his America buddies) 💰💰💰 |
Just because someone is from the same country it doesn’t mean they have the same skills. Otherwise why don’t we fill our side with Argentines, they must all be like Messi right? | |
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There’s a new chairman in town on 08:46 - May 6 with 4836 views | sw02sea |
There’s a new chairman in town on 23:47 - May 5 by ReslovenSwan1 | The previous ownership were cast as humble local people with the club foremost in their concern and personal gain a secondary consideration. This was a fake characterisation. Neither Mr Katzan nor his French business partner were fans. They were and probably still are Venture capitalists. One big success like Swansea can cover for several dud investments. One was a rugby fan. Dutch guy had a profitable punt. It was surprising they stayed with the club so long but the timing the exit was optimal. The club finances were starting to creak. Jenkins flag-posted it with the sale of Shelvey but no one took any notice. Jenkins and co did not improve the club. The club was completely rebuilt from the ashes of the Vetch which i contest was a health and safety hazard. They did not cut and run and fill their pockets. They built slowly and left a lasting legacy to the city in playing and coaching staff academy and top notch infrastructure. They deserve huge credit but are not getting it off the fans. It is a disgrace and suggests to me a lack of basic decency . The ending was unsatisfactory but most empires /eras end badly. Fans like owners to lose money not make money. Owners like Steve Gibson at Middlesborough. He has lost a fortune and put the club ab head of his own family. Bet365 are no doubt popular in Stoke. Neither team over the last 20 years has won a trophy or done better than Swansea. If Boro fail to get promotion both clubs start level with Swansea in August. The new investors are buying cheap shares hoping to see a 10x multiple with promotion. Promotion is possible with a £10m transfer budget in a depressed transfer market, a sold basic playing squad a good philosophy and a thriving academy. Naughton and Latibeaudiere is probably not what the new owners want to see in new signings. The signs are very good. My main concern is the focus of the manager for points and promotion. There should have been a desperation to win at Hull. It was his first "critical " 'win or bust' game and he failed the rehearsal. Talk of given Naughton a new deal seems like a sentimental reward for a loyal player no longer at Championship standard depriving a youngster of an opportunity that is. With modest cash Ogbene, Key, Drameh, Philognene, Cannon come into range along with some very decent loan signings. These are player I have heard of and seen play and many more I have not. Piroe and Manning can also be prepared to sign knowing the club has "ambition" (cash) |
Good post 👠Also Totally agree re-Hull game. What a wasted opportunity! Unbelievably we had a (not likely) shot at the playoffs. We get back in the game 1-1, what have we got to loose? Throw anyone attack minded on, change the system ,would spring to mind. It just goes to show what could have happened, because when Oli came on (68 mins) The attacking intent went up a notch. No, the next substitutes were on the 84th minute ! Really ?? I don’t get it, I really don’t | | | |
There’s a new chairman in town on 10:36 - May 6 with 4724 views | NotLoyal |
There’s a new chairman in town on 08:28 - May 6 by Dr_Parnassus | Just because someone is from the same country it doesn’t mean they have the same skills. Otherwise why don’t we fill our side with Argentines, they must all be like Messi right? |
They will have learned these skills over a period of time, not straight away, agreed. | |
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There’s a new chairman in town on 10:39 - May 6 with 4710 views | Dr_Winston | The biggest problem with Pearlman is he was too late. If we'd upgraded commercial management in 2011 rather than letting Dineen carry on we could potentially have grown the club even more off the field. By the time he arrived the moment had mostly passed. | |
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There’s a new chairman in town on 11:10 - May 6 with 4674 views | shaggyrogers |
There’s a new chairman in town on 10:39 - May 6 by Dr_Winston | The biggest problem with Pearlman is he was too late. If we'd upgraded commercial management in 2011 rather than letting Dineen carry on we could potentially have grown the club even more off the field. By the time he arrived the moment had mostly passed. |
I have to disagree with you Doc. There is a major misconception that once you come to the premier league that you become a world brand that can be monetised. Yes you are a brand known globally but 1000's across the world don't go out and buy shirts for instance. For clubs like Swansea, palace, stoke etc etc there is a limit as to what you can get for shirt sponsorship, kit deals and the like. If you look at the accounts of clubs similar to us in stature you can see that the swans performed as well as them commerciually but i'm told with staffing levels much much lower. Pearlman came in and tried to change things that didn't need changing and cost us millions in the process. I know he brought in layers of commercial staff who didn't / couldn't perform and subsequently got rid and i also know he had to turn to Dineen to get a shirt deal as they had all failed to do so. | | | |
There’s a new chairman in town on 11:13 - May 6 with 4650 views | Dr_Winston |
There’s a new chairman in town on 11:10 - May 6 by shaggyrogers | I have to disagree with you Doc. There is a major misconception that once you come to the premier league that you become a world brand that can be monetised. Yes you are a brand known globally but 1000's across the world don't go out and buy shirts for instance. For clubs like Swansea, palace, stoke etc etc there is a limit as to what you can get for shirt sponsorship, kit deals and the like. If you look at the accounts of clubs similar to us in stature you can see that the swans performed as well as them commerciually but i'm told with staffing levels much much lower. Pearlman came in and tried to change things that didn't need changing and cost us millions in the process. I know he brought in layers of commercial staff who didn't / couldn't perform and subsequently got rid and i also know he had to turn to Dineen to get a shirt deal as they had all failed to do so. |
It's not just that we got to the Premier League. There was a story there, one to be capitalised on, especially during the first two seasons when we were being lauded as an exemplar club and winning the LC. After that we lost our way and became as you say, just another Premier League team. An opportunity missed and after that it was too late, hence the failure of subsequent efforts. | |
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There’s a new chairman in town on 12:09 - May 6 with 4545 views | shaggyrogers |
There’s a new chairman in town on 11:13 - May 6 by Dr_Winston | It's not just that we got to the Premier League. There was a story there, one to be capitalised on, especially during the first two seasons when we were being lauded as an exemplar club and winning the LC. After that we lost our way and became as you say, just another Premier League team. An opportunity missed and after that it was too late, hence the failure of subsequent efforts. |
You may be right but it isn't a gimme that it could be capitalised. There are other clubs out there that could be seen as exemplar. Brentford and Brighton spring to mind. Have they managed to capitalise ?. They may have but i haven't seen it. I doubt it was one mans decision on this. I would think that board set budgets to each department in the club and perhaps they didn't see the opportunity there and therefore didn't give the department the budget. Who knows | | | |
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