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National league play offs 08:06 - May 3 with 22629 viewsmodelboydave

I imagine I am not the only one monitoring the national league and N/S play offs. Last night I watched St Albans beat Chelmsford 1-0 in the southern section.

In the national league itself borehamwood beat Barnet.
In the southern section Kiddie beat Alferton Town.

Tonight we have Woking v Bromley in the national league
Brockley town v Gloucester city in the north
Worthing v Braintree in the south.

Let’s see who joins us next year.

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National league play offs on 10:32 - May 3 with 14594 viewsJimmySquirrel61

I think that Chesterfield will get promoted out of the NL and non league Rochdale will have the pleasure of a trip to Meadow Lane

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National league play offs on 14:54 - May 3 with 14423 viewsheywooddale

Does the Nation League not own a map or an AtoZ or something?
How is Brackley in the Nation League North? its near Oxford
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National league play offs on 15:25 - May 3 with 14373 viewsJames1980

National league play offs on 14:54 - May 3 by heywooddale

Does the Nation League not own a map or an AtoZ or something?
How is Brackley in the Nation League North? its near Oxford


Boundaries for NLS and NLN will change depending on relegation and promotion into NL. How about NL is rebranded to be National League Premier.

'Only happy when you've got it often makes you miss the journey'
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National league play offs on 15:40 - May 3 with 14339 viewsTVOS1907

National league play offs on 14:54 - May 3 by heywooddale

Does the Nation League not own a map or an AtoZ or something?
How is Brackley in the Nation League North? its near Oxford


I've answered this before.

There are more than 24 teams at that tier who are further south than Brackley.

When I was your age, I used to enjoy the odd game of tennis. Or was it golf?

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National league play offs on 19:36 - May 3 with 14075 viewsYadHoDale

National league play offs on 15:40 - May 3 by TVOS1907

I've answered this before.

There are more than 24 teams at that tier who are further south than Brackley.


If they both get through the playoffs, a Brackley v Oxford City derby would give Brackley their closest away fixture for several years.
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National league play offs on 20:02 - May 3 with 14027 viewsJames1980

My suggestion for Russell Penn to be our next manager is not looking terrible.

'Only happy when you've got it often makes you miss the journey'
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National league play offs on 20:57 - May 3 with 13935 viewsBrierls

National league play offs on 20:02 - May 3 by James1980

My suggestion for Russell Penn to be our next manager is not looking terrible.


I’ve had enough of managers, assistants and players with links to the Midlands.
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National league play offs on 22:24 - May 3 with 13783 viewsBrierls

National league play offs on 19:36 - May 3 by YadHoDale

If they both get through the playoffs, a Brackley v Oxford City derby would give Brackley their closest away fixture for several years.


I think Oxford City is the best option for most of us travel wise.
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National league play offs on 22:31 - May 3 with 13766 viewsOxDale

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National league play offs on 12:25 - May 4 with 13465 viewsYorkshire_Dale

National league play offs on 20:57 - May 3 by Brierls

I’ve had enough of managers, assistants and players with links to the Midlands.


....and even more so Scousers!
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National league play offs on 13:25 - May 4 with 13363 viewsheywooddale

National league play offs on 15:40 - May 3 by TVOS1907

I've answered this before.

There are more than 24 teams at that tier who are further south than Brackley.


I'm was aware of how those two leagues are organised, I was being facetious more than anything.

It's just surprising considering how southern skewed the Nation League is, that the NLN and NLS are that southern skewed as well. I expected odd teams from either the NLN or NLS to be below the midlands or above them respectively to make the numbers work, but didn't expect the leagues make up to be that southern skewed.
Figured the club would be more even in their distribution.
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National league play offs on 14:20 - May 4 with 13264 viewsTVOS1907

National league play offs on 13:25 - May 4 by heywooddale

I'm was aware of how those two leagues are organised, I was being facetious more than anything.

It's just surprising considering how southern skewed the Nation League is, that the NLN and NLS are that southern skewed as well. I expected odd teams from either the NLN or NLS to be below the midlands or above them respectively to make the numbers work, but didn't expect the leagues make up to be that southern skewed.
Figured the club would be more even in their distribution.
[Post edited 4 May 2023 13:27]


Unfortunately the leagues can't dictate who wins promotion or who is relegated. It just seems southern non-league football is stronger than northern.

Maidstone, Torquay and Yeovil have all dropped from the NationAL League this season, putting even more southern teams into the tier below.

Scunthorpe are the only northern team to be relegated.

When I was your age, I used to enjoy the odd game of tennis. Or was it golf?

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National league play offs on 15:43 - May 4 with 13189 viewsmodelboydave

It does seem crazy the number of southern teams in the leagues, but nothing anyone can do about it.

A St Albans fan was telling me they could easily be in the Northern League if a few more teams changed positions. Meanwhile more results last night.

Woking 1 Bromley 2 in the NL
NLN — Brackley 2 Gloucester City 2 — BT win on pens
NLS — Worthing 2 Braintree Town 1

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National league play offs on 15:56 - May 4 with 13171 viewsheywooddale

National league play offs on 14:20 - May 4 by TVOS1907

Unfortunately the leagues can't dictate who wins promotion or who is relegated. It just seems southern non-league football is stronger than northern.

Maidstone, Torquay and Yeovil have all dropped from the NationAL League this season, putting even more southern teams into the tier below.

Scunthorpe are the only northern team to be relegated.


I was wondering whether an abundance of London clubs in the NLS would be the answer for the southerness of the NLN. I'd imagine with the population density there is would help clubs get to NLS level, (more potential players, more potential fans)

It appears my theory was right https://www.footballgroundmap.com/grounds/england/national-league-south


Also if you want to be depressed about long awaydays
https://www.footballgroundmap.com/grounds/england/national-league
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National league play offs on 16:06 - May 4 with 13122 viewsPlattyswrinklynuts

National league play offs on 15:56 - May 4 by heywooddale

I was wondering whether an abundance of London clubs in the NLS would be the answer for the southerness of the NLN. I'd imagine with the population density there is would help clubs get to NLS level, (more potential players, more potential fans)

It appears my theory was right https://www.footballgroundmap.com/grounds/england/national-league-south


Also if you want to be depressed about long awaydays
https://www.footballgroundmap.com/grounds/england/national-league
[Post edited 4 May 2023 15:57]


Not convinced about the fans theory, Barnet v Borehamwoods play off game yesterday attracted only about 2500, & it’s a derby to boot.
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National league play offs on 16:20 - May 4 with 13096 viewsEllDale

Without being facetious, how many does the ground hold though? That could be half the capacity.
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National league play offs on 16:53 - May 4 with 13034 viewsscarrow

Lowestoft were in the northern league -it crippled them financially and they have dropped a few divisions since

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National league play offs on 17:16 - May 4 with 12986 viewsEllDale

National league play offs on 16:20 - May 4 by EllDale

Without being facetious, how many does the ground hold though? That could be half the capacity.


Sorry, misread that, thought it had been at Borehamwood and not Barnet.
The Hive is quite a decent new stadium.
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National league play offs on 17:34 - May 4 with 12945 viewsPorlicks

How is it decided? Latitude of the centre spot?

Who are YOU with?

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National league play offs on 19:47 - May 4 with 12804 viewsRodingdale

National league play offs on 15:56 - May 4 by heywooddale

I was wondering whether an abundance of London clubs in the NLS would be the answer for the southerness of the NLN. I'd imagine with the population density there is would help clubs get to NLS level, (more potential players, more potential fans)

It appears my theory was right https://www.footballgroundmap.com/grounds/england/national-league-south


Also if you want to be depressed about long awaydays
https://www.footballgroundmap.com/grounds/england/national-league
[Post edited 4 May 2023 15:57]


It took me seven hours to get back to London on Saturday and that was when the railways weren’t on strike. Our southern away gates are likely to be predominantly southern based Dale fans, I think, next season - given the cost and unreliability of the rail network. I’m particularly looking forward to Ebbsfleet away.

It reminds me, years ago the writers of EGP used to recommend the best away pub, what a great re-innovation that would be!!
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National league play offs on 20:49 - May 4 with 12705 viewsTVOS1907

National league play offs on 19:47 - May 4 by Rodingdale

It took me seven hours to get back to London on Saturday and that was when the railways weren’t on strike. Our southern away gates are likely to be predominantly southern based Dale fans, I think, next season - given the cost and unreliability of the rail network. I’m particularly looking forward to Ebbsfleet away.

It reminds me, years ago the writers of EGP used to recommend the best away pub, what a great re-innovation that would be!!


I think you might be underestimating the number of fans who will still travel from the Rochdale area, trains or no trains, especially for Saturday fixtures.

I'd be very surprised if the distribution of locals and exiles differed much from this and previous seasons - certainly for the first campaign in the NL.

Of course, form and results will have a part to play, but I think the majority of those local fans who are regular travellers will still be next season.

After that, who knows?

BTW, where's Roding?
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When I was your age, I used to enjoy the odd game of tennis. Or was it golf?

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National league play offs on 21:07 - May 4 with 12663 viewsEllDale

I actually think that there may some away games where ticket demand exceeds supply.
I’m not quite sure what the away allocation is at grounds such as Maidenhead or Dorking but it can’t be above a couple of hundred.
It will be interesting to see where the Trust Exiles pick for their away day out as well.
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National league play offs on 21:47 - May 4 with 12583 viewsTVOS1907

National league play offs on 21:07 - May 4 by EllDale

I actually think that there may some away games where ticket demand exceeds supply.
I’m not quite sure what the away allocation is at grounds such as Maidenhead or Dorking but it can’t be above a couple of hundred.
It will be interesting to see where the Trust Exiles pick for their away day out as well.
[Post edited 4 May 2023 21:07]


They usually have it at Spotland, don't they?

When I was your age, I used to enjoy the odd game of tennis. Or was it golf?

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National league play offs on 21:50 - May 4 with 12582 viewsEllDale

I thought they had an “away day” once a season when Dale were playing in the south of England?
I’m sure it was at Wimbledon a couple of years ago.
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National league play offs on 22:05 - May 4 with 12558 viewsTVOS1907

National league play offs on 21:50 - May 4 by EllDale

I thought they had an “away day” once a season when Dale were playing in the south of England?
I’m sure it was at Wimbledon a couple of years ago.


You might well be right. Someone more ITK will confirm it.

When I was your age, I used to enjoy the odd game of tennis. Or was it golf?

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