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Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE 17:29 - Sep 7 with 17448 viewsNotLoyal

English Football League
Championship

Swansea City v Hull City
Saturday September 11th 2021
New named stadium
Kick off 3pm


Match Officials: Keith from Stroud is the man in the middle on Saturday. He will be assisted by Robert Merchant and Sam Lewis, while Peter Wright will be the fourth official.


Keith from Stroud, more than a name, he’s a small town as well

Hull facts, you better believe it
Hull City come to the newly named stadium with a manager called Grant McCann, he was the first ex footballer to walk from Portsmouth to Lowestoft in a bathing costume made from finger nails. The other incredible fact about him is his ability to leap sideways and then pivot like Darren Gough used to do on Masterchef when he won the dancing competition.

Hull is in Humberside and is a very famous small town of people made up of idiots. A local psychiatrist once described them all as suffering from ‘delusions of grandeur’ The most memorable thing that happened there is when Del Boy and Rodney went to Hull and back in the reality TV series only fools and horses. Most of that was filmed in Stenhiusemuir.


This is the Humble bridge, it’s very accommodating. It was stolen from Pembroke Dock

Some people have said this is a must win game for Swansea, but it isn’t at all. It’s a game that the winner wins, not mustly. The last result was a 4-4 draw in Hull when both teams scored four goals each to draw 4-4. The draw meant that both teams may as well just agreed to share a point each and save all the rushing about and shouting. The game was described as exciting and lovely by several football people who watched the 4-4 draw.

Swansea City v Hull City
Games won: 31
Games drawn: 18
Games lost: 29

Swansea City have won more games than Hull who have drawn the same amount of games as Swansea. This is quite a statistic when you consider Hull have lost 31 games but only won 29 games. The 18 games that have been drawn meant nobody won the game and that’s still a record between the two teams today.

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Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 18:15 - Sep 11 with 1636 viewslifelong

Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 18:02 - Sep 11 by onehunglow

I’m older than most on here and seen it all really.

I can see and smell a BStter and I reckon our current manager is just that.


You must see one every time you get up in the morning and look in the mirror..
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Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 18:15 - Sep 11 by lifelong

You must see one every time you get up in the morning and look in the mirror..




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Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 18:25 - Sep 11 with 1583 viewsWalterBoyd

Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 17:09 - Sep 11 by onehunglow

Yes "we" but not you of course as you are up your own.

If you're happy with that and are happy for work in progres then that is up to you


WE applies to many punters who wont append anything because the likes of Dr Winston will seek to ridicule .Just begs the question ,who is Dr Winston.

WE are near the bottom of the league

We do not look like winning ANY game right now

WE are easy to play against

We lost today against the massive and recently promoted Hull City.

My God,why hast thou forsaken us.


If you are having a rant because you think we lost today🤫🙄🤪
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Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 18:02 - Sep 11 by onehunglow

I’m older than most on here and seen it all really.

I can see and smell a BStter and I reckon our current manager is just that.


That is my suspicion as well Martin is a smooth talking manager and there are many of those types in the game and most end up being failures, yet the naive among us are already taken in by him dispite him not having any success in management, unless you call success getting Mk Dons to play neat football across the park without any attacking prowess and failing to get them a top half finish in Division 2.
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Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 18:27 - Sep 11 with 1579 viewsjasper_T

Carrying a few too many players afraid to try their luck. At times Downes and Grimes were our deepest players with three centre halves pushing on into midfield to play the football. Not sure that's where a spark is going to come from, despite Naughton's one decent shot.

It's several steps forward from where we were, against a poor side. If we could take some of the quick interplay we were using in our own half into the opposition's (Downes especially, played some excellent stuff under pressure but near the opposition's box wouldn't try to lay a glove), and take on more shots without having to be egged on by the crowd, we might get some results.
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Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 18:27 - Sep 11 by jasper_T

Carrying a few too many players afraid to try their luck. At times Downes and Grimes were our deepest players with three centre halves pushing on into midfield to play the football. Not sure that's where a spark is going to come from, despite Naughton's one decent shot.

It's several steps forward from where we were, against a poor side. If we could take some of the quick interplay we were using in our own half into the opposition's (Downes especially, played some excellent stuff under pressure but near the opposition's box wouldn't try to lay a glove), and take on more shots without having to be egged on by the crowd, we might get some results.


Maybe Either Downes or Grimes should play but not together

Ncham looks good though

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Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 18:25 - Sep 11 by shingle

That is my suspicion as well Martin is a smooth talking manager and there are many of those types in the game and most end up being failures, yet the naive among us are already taken in by him dispite him not having any success in management, unless you call success getting Mk Dons to play neat football across the park without any attacking prowess and failing to get them a top half finish in Division 2.


You say taken in, I'd say giving him time.

Today was an improvement in my mind. Some good interlinking and attacking. OK, we didn't score but we are heading in the right direction. We'll see after 10-15 games.

As it stands I reckon we'll be fine.

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Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 18:31 - Sep 11 with 1556 viewsjackrmee

Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 18:25 - Sep 11 by shingle

That is my suspicion as well Martin is a smooth talking manager and there are many of those types in the game and most end up being failures, yet the naive among us are already taken in by him dispite him not having any success in management, unless you call success getting Mk Dons to play neat football across the park without any attacking prowess and failing to get them a top half finish in Division 2.


The guy is 35 years old! How much success can you possibly have at that age?
You'd say his only season as a manager was a failure?

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Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 18:32 - Sep 11 with 1532 viewsonehunglow

Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 18:25 - Sep 11 by shingle

That is my suspicion as well Martin is a smooth talking manager and there are many of those types in the game and most end up being failures, yet the naive among us are already taken in by him dispite him not having any success in management, unless you call success getting Mk Dons to play neat football across the park without any attacking prowess and failing to get them a top half finish in Division 2.


Not easy is it being objective.
I am certain many are upset and worried but won’t ever say so on here .it’s a shame as people are still being bullied,as is obvious.

I cannot believe how low our expectations have become


It is profoundly depressing.


We are apparently living in hope for better things purely because Martin has said they will be .

I have never been so suspicious of any previous manager as Martin is clearly very clever in away the likes of Bobby Brad could only dream of.

We ve swallowed it whole

Anyone who says that will get brickbats

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Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 18:37 - Sep 11 with 1521 viewsWalterBoyd

Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 18:28 - Sep 11 by onehunglow

Maybe Either Downes or Grimes should play but not together

Ncham looks good though


Personally I would put Downes on team sheet ahead of Grimes on todays performance. Room for both though.
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Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 18:57 - Sep 11 with 1450 viewsjackrabbit

Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 18:32 - Sep 11 by onehunglow

Not easy is it being objective.
I am certain many are upset and worried but won’t ever say so on here .it’s a shame as people are still being bullied,as is obvious.

I cannot believe how low our expectations have become


It is profoundly depressing.


We are apparently living in hope for better things purely because Martin has said they will be .

I have never been so suspicious of any previous manager as Martin is clearly very clever in away the likes of Bobby Brad could only dream of.

We ve swallowed it whole

Anyone who says that will get brickbats


How on earth have you come to that conclusion so early in the season? The team has changed beyond recognition - so many new players. My gripe is that there is no pace in the team and the build up is slow and predictable. But I’m happy to give the team time to settle in and start playing with more intent, purpose and confidence. At the moment they look very unsure of themselves where it matters - in the opponents’ ‘final third’. I’ve seen some promising signs of individual skills and ability, so I see better, more positive performances ahead. I’m still prepared to give the manager more time to create a winning team. He has some, if not most, of the ingredients. Let’s see if he can meld them into a team that wins games. I think he will.
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Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 18:37 - Sep 11 by WalterBoyd

Personally I would put Downes on team sheet ahead of Grimes on todays performance. Room for both though.


Absolutely.
Who is Grimes seen as having a great left foot. No evidence at all of that.
Downes is a class act and stands out.
He is a captain and should be.
He does more than Grimes and should be rewarding with the captaincy.
Personally I would bench Grimes and that would see us move forward

We might see a few decent corners too

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Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 18:57 - Sep 11 by jackrabbit

How on earth have you come to that conclusion so early in the season? The team has changed beyond recognition - so many new players. My gripe is that there is no pace in the team and the build up is slow and predictable. But I’m happy to give the team time to settle in and start playing with more intent, purpose and confidence. At the moment they look very unsure of themselves where it matters - in the opponents’ ‘final third’. I’ve seen some promising signs of individual skills and ability, so I see better, more positive performances ahead. I’m still prepared to give the manager more time to create a winning team. He has some, if not most, of the ingredients. Let’s see if he can meld them into a team that wins games. I think he will.


Because it is a result of what I see.
I ask you where so early in the season are you giving Martin unchallenged support.
This is it then.?

Don’t toe the line and this is the crepe you get

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Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 19:14 - Sep 11 with 1391 viewsChief

Decent performance, although Hull were limited but hardworking.

Downes is superb, Ntcham very good.

I don't think we need Grimes - Downes & Ntcham can do what he does and more. Should have sold on deadline day & brought in someone who's more direct (Patterson isn't the answer).

Nice to watch at times, frustrating at times, bit concerned we won't score enough.

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Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 18:27 - Sep 11 by jasper_T

Carrying a few too many players afraid to try their luck. At times Downes and Grimes were our deepest players with three centre halves pushing on into midfield to play the football. Not sure that's where a spark is going to come from, despite Naughton's one decent shot.

It's several steps forward from where we were, against a poor side. If we could take some of the quick interplay we were using in our own half into the opposition's (Downes especially, played some excellent stuff under pressure but near the opposition's box wouldn't try to lay a glove), and take on more shots without having to be egged on by the crowd, we might get some results.


I thought that we lacked the confidence to try things around the box. A goal would perhaps given that confidence.

We appeared to have more than one good shout for a penalty as well.

Definitely an improvement, today we just needed a bit of luck. My biggest concern still is that there isn't enough goals in the team.
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Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 19:14 - Sep 11 by dobjack2

I thought that we lacked the confidence to try things around the box. A goal would perhaps given that confidence.

We appeared to have more than one good shout for a penalty as well.

Definitely an improvement, today we just needed a bit of luck. My biggest concern still is that there isn't enough goals in the team.


Reasoned response which sees us getting back to topic .

Good man

We look clueless in front of goal YET Piroe ,to me,is a real find and all efforts made to get balls to him.

Negative .?


He is one positive right now but problem is our coach hasn’t found a say to maximise his potential

Yet, he benches Benda and ignores Whittaker after a hat trick.

Weird innit

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Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 19:10 - Sep 11 by onehunglow

Because it is a result of what I see.
I ask you where so early in the season are you giving Martin unchallenged support.
This is it then.?

Don’t toe the line and this is the crepe you get


We’ve played 6 games out of 46. Today was the first time we’ve seen some of the players. As I’ve posted, I wasn’t impressed by the performance - in a nutshell, slow, ponderous and predictable in those crucial areas of the pitch. I don’t see that as all the manager’s fault. But I’ll wait and see. We didn’t lose today but I find it hard to celebrate a 0-0 at home. I’m not giving the manager ‘unchallenged support’ but I am giving him the benefit of the doubt, and more time to work with the team. I might be wrong to do so. We’ll see.
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Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 19:58 - Sep 11 by jackrabbit

We’ve played 6 games out of 46. Today was the first time we’ve seen some of the players. As I’ve posted, I wasn’t impressed by the performance - in a nutshell, slow, ponderous and predictable in those crucial areas of the pitch. I don’t see that as all the manager’s fault. But I’ll wait and see. We didn’t lose today but I find it hard to celebrate a 0-0 at home. I’m not giving the manager ‘unchallenged support’ but I am giving him the benefit of the doubt, and more time to work with the team. I might be wrong to do so. We’ll see.


Great post Sir.

I am just genuinely baffled a to why Martin is so trusted although,frankly,it's a magtter of desperation and pure hope he gets it right. I hope he does too.

Right now,nobody but NOBODY can ay he will. and thoe who have their doubts should be respected for having that view.

That is my point.Simple as that.

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Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 19:14 - Sep 11 by Chief

Decent performance, although Hull were limited but hardworking.

Downes is superb, Ntcham very good.

I don't think we need Grimes - Downes & Ntcham can do what he does and more. Should have sold on deadline day & brought in someone who's more direct (Patterson isn't the answer).

Nice to watch at times, frustrating at times, bit concerned we won't score enough.


Remove Grimes and replace with Walsh. Problem solved.

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Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 20:01 - Sep 11 by Brynmill_Jack

Remove Grimes and replace with Walsh. Problem solved.


If Walsh can keep healthy then abolutely.
To me ,Grimes is our primarily problem .

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Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 20:27 - Sep 11 with 1163 viewsChief

Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 20:01 - Sep 11 by Brynmill_Jack

Remove Grimes and replace with Walsh. Problem solved.


I wouldn't be so sure of that. I believe he was signed as the direct Grimes replacement and not the line breaking direct attacking midfielder we need. Although that solo goal is doing the rounds so I maybe be wrong.

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Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 20:27 - Sep 11 by Chief

I wouldn't be so sure of that. I believe he was signed as the direct Grimes replacement and not the line breaking direct attacking midfielder we need. Although that solo goal is doing the rounds so I maybe be wrong.


I believe he was and it gives us a problem;we cant start them both.

The French chap looks very handy and he and Piroe are the ones to get most involved if at all possible.

Laird looks a terrific lad but we have not seen our players attack the ball in the box and that is down to coaching.

Our coach has aid he has been working hard

We are fourth from bottom .

Sheff Utd will now pull away.

Like it or not,the game /the club is all about results.To deny that is football suicide.

Too many seem to like the noose right now

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Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 20:40 - Sep 11 with 1131 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Two very poor sides on show today. Swansea for all their possession did not get the ball forward quickly enough. This allowed Hull to get numbers back and put up a defensive wall.

Very little width or getting behind the defence.

Going to be a long hard season.

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Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 20:40 - Sep 11 by felixstowe_jack

Two very poor sides on show today. Swansea for all their possession did not get the ball forward quickly enough. This allowed Hull to get numbers back and put up a defensive wall.

Very little width or getting behind the defence.

Going to be a long hard season.


We continued to try to play through the midfield. Hull then pushed their defence up and condensed the whole off the midfield making it virtually impossible to play through. We needed someone to break from midfield onto a through ball or one over the top, this would have pushed them back and given us more space. Sometimes we need to vary the tactics to succeed.
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Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 20:40 - Sep 11 by felixstowe_jack

Two very poor sides on show today. Swansea for all their possession did not get the ball forward quickly enough. This allowed Hull to get numbers back and put up a defensive wall.

Very little width or getting behind the defence.

Going to be a long hard season.


First game back after the international break and 10 days with the new signings, most fans have been positive about the way we played and very few have been negative so i have bookmarked your last sentence as I think we have turned a corner.
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