| Brentford.... 19:30 - Dec 28 with 15821 views | Gloucs_R |
Unbelievable.... This is how you run a club...
Ollie Watkins: £1.8m âž¡ï¸ £28m
Neal Maupay: £1.8m âž¡ï¸ £20m
Said Benrahma: £1.5m âž¡ï¸ £25m
Ezri Konsa: £2.5m âž¡ï¸ £12m
Chris Mepham: academy âž¡ï¸ £12.25m
Andre Gray: £550k âž¡ï¸ £11m
Scott Hogan: £850k âž¡ï¸ £9.5m
Jota: £1.35m âž¡ï¸ £5.85m
Ryan Woods: £1.2m âž¡ï¸ £4.5m
Unreal business #BrentfordFC https://t.co/k2V9pXj9gB |  |
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| Brentford.... on 19:32 - Dec 28 with 8551 views | Gloucs_R |
Eze...Free âž¡ï¸ £18m
Freeman...?
Manning...?
Smithies...?
Anyone else we've done well out of in the past few years? | |
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| Brentford.... on 19:33 - Dec 28 with 8531 views | hantssi |
Yep, no arguing with that, pretty impressive, perhaps second only to Liverpool’s feeder club Southampton! |  | | |
| Brentford.... on 20:26 - Dec 28 with 8341 views | LowerloftLad |
furlong free sold 1.5mill
eze free sold 19mill
Freeman 500k sold 5mill
manning 67k sold 250k fee paid up front
smithes went for 4mill
bos was brought in for 1mill and i still think we will make a 2/3mill profit on that
considering we were actually having to pay players to leave just a few years ago would suggest we are moving in the right direction transfer wise
the next profitable player will be chair |  |
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| Brentford.... on 20:36 - Dec 28 with 8284 views | bosh67 |
| Brentford.... on 20:26 - Dec 28 by LowerloftLad |
furlong free sold 1.5mill
eze free sold 19mill
Freeman 500k sold 5mill
manning 67k sold 250k fee paid up front
smithes went for 4mill
bos was brought in for 1mill and i still think we will make a 2/3mill profit on that
considering we were actually having to pay players to leave just a few years ago would suggest we are moving in the right direction transfer wise
the next profitable player will be chair |
BOS was bought for £90K! |  |
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| Brentford.... on 20:39 - Dec 28 with 8261 views | Hastings_Hoops |
Absolutely - this is nothing new either!..
Seaman, Parker, Peacock, Ferdinand, SInton (the irony), Sinclair, Impey and so on.
the penny has dropped and we’re seeing the reward...
Furlong (free) > £2m to West Brom...
Freeman (£500k) > £5m to Sheff Utd...
Eze (free) > £19m to Palace
...we have to stick with it or the past two years is all for nothing
The twitter griping really annoys me - it’s our impatient /petulant ‘new’ fans that will De-rail this realignment if we’re not careful. [Post edited 28 Dec 2020 20:45]
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| Brentford.... on 20:55 - Dec 28 with 8192 views | 1JD |
| Brentford.... on 20:36 - Dec 28 by bosh67 |
BOS was bought for £90K! |
The fee was undisclosed but he had a year left on his contract and was being coveted by several clubs at the time.
We had a couple of offers around the 750k mark rejected at the time until we did the deal.
Alan Nixon a respected journalist is quoted in this article back then.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/the72.co.uk/89398/qpr-750k-bid-blackpool-star-rej
Certainly was not 90k! And more around the 1m mark. | | | |
| Brentford.... on 21:05 - Dec 28 with 8137 views | CliveWilsonSaid |
This is old news. |  |
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| Brentford.... on 21:12 - Dec 28 with 8095 views | Hoopsarrr |
Can we stop comparing the Brentford model to ours. People are obsessed. They do their thing and we do ours. Both very profitable in their own right. 6 years ago we didn’t have a single decent academy or youth player coming through and sold for big money. Eze was the first and now we have BOS (who we bought for £250k from Blackpool) being lined up for a big money move. Dieng, Dickie, Kelman, Dyckes will go onto bigger clubs for bigger fees than we paid. People forget, Brentford owners also own Midtjylland - both feed players to each club. I’m sure if we had similar we’d be doing much better. Ramsey is doing a great job with the U23. Fickle fans see otherwise. | | | |
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| Brentford.... on 21:27 - Dec 28 with 8031 views | Gloucs_R |
| Brentford.... on 21:12 - Dec 28 by Hoopsarrr |
Can we stop comparing the Brentford model to ours. People are obsessed. They do their thing and we do ours. Both very profitable in their own right. 6 years ago we didn’t have a single decent academy or youth player coming through and sold for big money. Eze was the first and now we have BOS (who we bought for £250k from Blackpool) being lined up for a big money move. Dieng, Dickie, Kelman, Dyckes will go onto bigger clubs for bigger fees than we paid. People forget, Brentford owners also own Midtjylland - both feed players to each club. I’m sure if we had similar we’d be doing much better. Ramsey is doing a great job with the U23. Fickle fans see otherwise. |
Why should we stop comparing ourselves to those around us? They've done some phenomenal business over the last few years and should absolutely be praised for that..
We've not done too badly either.
They seem to be able to invest their money really well, something I am hoping that we can emulate. | |
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| Brentford.... on 21:32 - Dec 28 with 7999 views | Hastings_Hoops |
| Brentford.... on 21:27 - Dec 28 by Gloucs_R |
Why should we stop comparing ourselves to those around us? They've done some phenomenal business over the last few years and should absolutely be praised for that..
We've not done too badly either.
They seem to be able to invest their money really well, something I am hoping that we can emulate. |
It was our model in the first place!!!
Marsh > Bowles > Allen > Bannister > Seaman > Parker > Sinton > Peacock > Ferdinand > Sinclair [Post edited 28 Dec 2020 21:34]
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| Brentford.... on 21:33 - Dec 28 with 7983 views | Gloucs_R |
| Brentford.... on 21:32 - Dec 28 by Hastings_Hoops |
It was our model in the first place!!!
Marsh > Bowles > Allen > Bannister > Seaman > Parker > Sinton > Peacock > Ferdinand > Sinclair [Post edited 28 Dec 2020 21:34]
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I remember.
I also remember them and Fulham being our feeder club 😧 | |
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| Brentford.... on 21:35 - Dec 28 with 7966 views | CliveWilsonSaid |
| Brentford.... on 21:32 - Dec 28 by Hastings_Hoops |
It was our model in the first place!!!
Marsh > Bowles > Allen > Bannister > Seaman > Parker > Sinton > Peacock > Ferdinand > Sinclair [Post edited 28 Dec 2020 21:34]
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Well no. I seem to remember Mr Fernandes preferred the Fulham model to the Brentford model. [Post edited 28 Dec 2020 21:36]
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| Brentford.... on 21:41 - Dec 28 with 7932 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
How many of those were signed by Warburton out of interest?
It took a long long time, and plenty of League One football for them to get there by the way. |  | | |
| Brentford.... on 21:43 - Dec 28 with 7912 views | NewBee |
| Brentford.... on 21:12 - Dec 28 by Hoopsarrr |
Can we stop comparing the Brentford model to ours. People are obsessed. They do their thing and we do ours. Both very profitable in their own right. 6 years ago we didn’t have a single decent academy or youth player coming through and sold for big money. Eze was the first and now we have BOS (who we bought for £250k from Blackpool) being lined up for a big money move. Dieng, Dickie, Kelman, Dyckes will go onto bigger clubs for bigger fees than we paid. People forget, Brentford owners also own Midtjylland - both feed players to each club. I’m sure if we had similar we’d be doing much better. Ramsey is doing a great job with the U23. Fickle fans see otherwise. |
"People forget, Brentford owners also own Midtjylland - both feed players to each club"
Not actually the case. In the 6 seasons since Benham became majority owner of FCM, Bees have lent them 2 or 3 players and borrowed 2 or 3 more, but all were teenagers, with none of them deemed good enough for either club long-term.
(He also lent Marcondes to FCM to get him back to fitness after a bad injury)
Aiui, Benham wants each club to stand on its own feet, meaning he doesn't want to sell FCM Brentford's rejects; nor can FCM afford our best players; nor will he weaken FCM by taking their best players.
And if Bees have benefited by signing players from other Danish clubs, which they have, it presumably comes from having a Danish Head Coach and a Danish Joint DoF (Ankerson):
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jul/27/how-fc-midtjylland-analytical-r | | | |
| Brentford.... on 21:45 - Dec 28 with 7900 views | Hastings_Hoops |
| Brentford.... on 21:35 - Dec 28 by CliveWilsonSaid |
Well no. I seem to remember Mr Fernandes preferred the Fulham model to the Brentford model. [Post edited 28 Dec 2020 21:36]
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I think my point may have been lost on you?..
QPR pre-date the Briatore / Fernandes era (see the list of players in my post above). We are returning to our model of the 60’s through to the 90’s... a model that brentfart have very recently latched on to and executed relatively well. | | | |
| Brentford.... on 21:49 - Dec 28 with 7885 views | Gloucs_R |
| Brentford.... on 21:41 - Dec 28 by BazzaInTheLoft |
How many of those were signed by Warburton out of interest?
It took a long long time, and plenty of League One football for them to get there by the way. |
How many of our signings this season has he actually been responsible for as well? Nobody really knows I guess. | |
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| Brentford.... on 22:22 - Dec 28 with 7746 views | Hoopsarrr |
| Brentford.... on 21:43 - Dec 28 by NewBee |
"People forget, Brentford owners also own Midtjylland - both feed players to each club"
Not actually the case. In the 6 seasons since Benham became majority owner of FCM, Bees have lent them 2 or 3 players and borrowed 2 or 3 more, but all were teenagers, with none of them deemed good enough for either club long-term.
(He also lent Marcondes to FCM to get him back to fitness after a bad injury)
Aiui, Benham wants each club to stand on its own feet, meaning he doesn't want to sell FCM Brentford's rejects; nor can FCM afford our best players; nor will he weaken FCM by taking their best players.
And if Bees have benefited by signing players from other Danish clubs, which they have, it presumably comes from having a Danish Head Coach and a Danish Joint DoF (Ankerson):
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jul/27/how-fc-midtjylland-analytical-r |
Not actually the case. Do you need to split hairs here? They run a similar model in both clubs and would of course lend and borrow when they can. Case and point, they do it. | | | |
| Brentford.... on 22:26 - Dec 28 with 7733 views | Hoopsarrr |
| Brentford.... on 21:27 - Dec 28 by Gloucs_R |
Why should we stop comparing ourselves to those around us? They've done some phenomenal business over the last few years and should absolutely be praised for that..
We've not done too badly either.
They seem to be able to invest their money really well, something I am hoping that we can emulate. |
Because those comparing seem to discourage the hard work we’ve done in the last 6 years. Whilst we were pissing money at the wall in the prem, they were quietly going about their business. We’ve just seen our first real prospect go for big money. There’s more to come. We’re years behind them but where we are currently are, I’d take this set up everyday over the shambles witnessed in our latter prem days. | | | |
| Brentford.... on 22:43 - Dec 28 with 7652 views | NewBee |
| Brentford.... on 22:22 - Dec 28 by Hoopsarrr |
Not actually the case. Do you need to split hairs here? They run a similar model in both clubs and would of course lend and borrow when they can. Case and point, they do it. |
You characterised them as "feeding" players between the two clubs. My point was that there hasn't been one permanent transfer between the two clubs, either way.
And of the very few loans (ave 1 teenager per season) none has been a first team player, bar Marcondes (ex-Nordsjaelland), who was permitted to recover from injury in his home country, before returning to BFC when fit again.
(I might have added that BFC have now stopped borrowing players entirely, whether from FCM or elsewhere).
Therefore the two clubs are run as stand-alone entities, with the common ownership being coincidental bar the transfer of ideas. [Post edited 28 Dec 2020 22:47]
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| Brentford.... on 22:55 - Dec 28 with 7624 views | GroveR |
I would take Benham as owner ahead of that entire group of players in a heartbeat. |  | | |
| Brentford.... on 23:18 - Dec 28 with 7546 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Brentford.... on 22:55 - Dec 28 by GroveR |
I would take Benham as owner ahead of that entire group of players in a heartbeat. |
Don’t forgot the supporters trust being on the board:
https://www.beesunited.org.uk/ | | | |
| Brentford.... on 23:53 - Dec 28 with 7478 views | GroveR |
I'm not but who do we put on the board? The LSA? .org? Clive? You? Me?
We're as divided a fanbase as you'll ever see because everyone only wants the best for QPR but there's a hundred different views on how we get there. | | | |
| Brentford.... on 23:53 - Dec 28 with 7472 views | NewBee |
Actually I've just has a look at the OP (bought 9 players for £16m, sold for £127m) and realise it's left out a good few more deals over the last 7 seasons which add up pretty well, too.
No particular order:
Dallas: £70k/£1.3m
Grigg: £400k/£1m
Odubajo: £1m/£3.5m
Tarkowski: £250k/£3.5m
Yennaris: £100k/£5m
Vibe: £1.2m/£2m
Josefzoon: £250k/£2.8m
Egan: £500k/£4m
Jota: £1.35m/£6m
= £5m/£29m total.
(The above were the signing fees, afaik there were some add-ons and sell-ons achieved as well)
They also received c.£11.4m total for Button (£1m), Forshaw (£2m), Bentley (£2m), Dean (£2.2m), Colin (£2m), Kirschbaumer (£900k) and ahem Bidwell (£1.3m). I'm not sure how much they paid for them, but I doubt it was more than £5m.
On the minus side we paid £630k for some guy named Barbet, then let him go on a free.  | | | |
| Brentford.... on 23:56 - Dec 28 with 7466 views | rsonist |
Nothing's too old when it's stirring time. |  | | |
| Brentford.... on 00:17 - Dec 29 with 7425 views | Boston |
| Brentford.... on 23:56 - Dec 28 by rsonist |
Nothing's too old when it's stirring time. |
When it’s snowing, we move on to flake news. | |
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