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Confirmation Statement (showing Share Ownership) available on Companies House 15:35 - Jun 19 with 9624 viewsStudiousDale

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/00111019/filing-history

Last year's is also available here (for comparison), but as I don't have an easy way of getting the PDF into Excel I'll leave that to someone else.

EDIT - Manual list captured below (apologies if I've missed anyone or any of this is incorrect, if it is i'll re-edit)

Major (above 5,000) Holdings
110,000 Andrew Kilpatrick
58,250 Andrew Kelly
37,343 North Yard Analytics LLC (Dan Altman)
37,342 Gergedan LLC (Emre Marcelli)
35,000 James Marsh
32,072 Beryl & Graham Morris
22,397 David Kilpatrick
14,250 Graham Rawlinson
14,387 Geoffrey Brierley
13,100 David Bottomley
12,625 Dale Trust
12,500 Tony Pockney
6,360 John Faulks
5,200 Andrew Hilton
5,000 Christopher Cheetham
5,000 Robin Mathieson
5,000 Colin Parton

"Of the 900,000 limit, there are 502,957 in the hands of Shareholders and the remainder (397,043) are unissued." so the above names represent 425,826 (or 84.66%) of the issued shares.

The Board have stated an intent to add an extra 300,000 shares (which would be available at a minimum price of £6 per share) to these unissued shares. This needs Shareholder agreement.
[Post edited 19 Jun 2020 17:10]
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Confirmation Statement (showing Share Ownership) available on Companies House on 15:49 - Jun 19 with 7279 viewselectricblue

looking at the register a few have been sold.
Altmans company as over 37000 of them.

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Confirmation Statement (showing Share Ownership) available on Companies House on 15:53 - Jun 19 with 7253 viewsfitzochris

Confirmation Statement (showing Share Ownership) available on Companies House on 15:49 - Jun 19 by electricblue

looking at the register a few have been sold.
Altmans company as over 37000 of them.


A lot more if you add in Gergedan LLC.

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Confirmation Statement (showing Share Ownership) available on Companies House on 15:56 - Jun 19 with 7226 viewssuffolkdale

Many thanks for this - just checked I am shareholder 295, proud to hold 500! When I told friends that I had bought the shares they likened it to pouring money down the proverbial drain...
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Confirmation Statement (showing Share Ownership) available on Companies House on 15:59 - Jun 19 with 7196 viewsD_Alien

Confirmation Statement (showing Share Ownership) available on Companies House on 15:53 - Jun 19 by fitzochris

A lot more if you add in Gergedan LLC.


Quote from recent statement:

"A statement released by Rochdale AFC's board of directors says: "Companies named North Yard Analytics and Gergedan, owned by Dan Altman and Emre Marcelli respectively, have acquired shares in RAFC."

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Confirmation Statement (showing Share Ownership) available on Companies House on 16:00 - Jun 19 with 7183 viewsfitzochris

Confirmation Statement (showing Share Ownership) available on Companies House on 15:59 - Jun 19 by D_Alien

Quote from recent statement:

"A statement released by Rochdale AFC's board of directors says: "Companies named North Yard Analytics and Gergedan, owned by Dan Altman and Emre Marcelli respectively, have acquired shares in RAFC."


That was the point I was making to our Electric friend.

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Confirmation Statement (showing Share Ownership) available on Companies House on 16:00 - Jun 19 with 7180 viewsSuddenLad

There are many people on that list, who to my personal knowledge are deceased. Amongst those is a 35,000 stake held by Jim Marsh, former director.

Some entity called Gergedan LLC have 37,342 shares. Who be they?

“It is easier to fool people, than to convince them that they have been fooled”

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Confirmation Statement (showing Share Ownership) available on Companies House on 16:01 - Jun 19 with 7172 viewsSuddenLad

Edit: Answered above. Thanks...

“It is easier to fool people, than to convince them that they have been fooled”

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Confirmation Statement (showing Share Ownership) available on Companies House on 16:01 - Jun 19 with 7162 viewsD_Alien

Confirmation Statement (showing Share Ownership) available on Companies House on 16:00 - Jun 19 by fitzochris

That was the point I was making to our Electric friend.


Yes, i was simply highlighting the respective ownership

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Confirmation Statement (showing Share Ownership) available on Companies House on 16:02 - Jun 19 with 7163 viewsfitzochris

Confirmation Statement (showing Share Ownership) available on Companies House on 16:00 - Jun 19 by SuddenLad

There are many people on that list, who to my personal knowledge are deceased. Amongst those is a 35,000 stake held by Jim Marsh, former director.

Some entity called Gergedan LLC have 37,342 shares. Who be they?


It's in the name of Dan Altman's business partner - but he told me they come as a duo, so collectively they hold more than 74k shares.

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Confirmation Statement (showing Share Ownership) available on Companies House on 16:04 - Jun 19 with 7134 viewsSuddenLad

The chap behind you at 296 has been dead for 15 years. There must be a collective ownership by deceased shareholders that could allow them to take control !!

“It is easier to fool people, than to convince them that they have been fooled”

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Confirmation Statement (showing Share Ownership) available on Companies House on 16:28 - Jun 19 with 7005 viewselectricblue

what % do these two now own combined........

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Confirmation Statement (showing Share Ownership) available on Companies House on 16:41 - Jun 19 with 6950 views100notout

So a few observations from that ..........

Americans own c15%
Board own c41% (Andrew Kelly now the 2nd largest individual holder at c11.5%)
5 others own 23% (inc Exors of Jim Marsh 7% and Dale Trust 2.5%)

The purchase of Dunphys shares completed on 4th Oct 2019
Kellys purchase of Leodis shares completed on 20th Jan 2020
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Confirmation Statement (showing Share Ownership) available on Companies House on 16:51 - Jun 19 with 6907 viewsjudd

Confirmation Statement (showing Share Ownership) available on Companies House on 16:41 - Jun 19 by 100notout

So a few observations from that ..........

Americans own c15%
Board own c41% (Andrew Kelly now the 2nd largest individual holder at c11.5%)
5 others own 23% (inc Exors of Jim Marsh 7% and Dale Trust 2.5%)

The purchase of Dunphys shares completed on 4th Oct 2019
Kellys purchase of Leodis shares completed on 20th Jan 2020
[Post edited 19 Jun 2020 16:56]


Isn't Andrew Kilpatrick the largest shareholder on the board?

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Confirmation Statement (showing Share Ownership) available on Companies House on 16:55 - Jun 19 with 6891 views100notout

Confirmation Statement (showing Share Ownership) available on Companies House on 16:51 - Jun 19 by judd

Isn't Andrew Kilpatrick the largest shareholder on the board?


Sorry Judd you're absolutely correct - I'll edit it

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Confirmation Statement (showing Share Ownership) available on Companies House on 17:04 - Jun 19 with 6858 viewsJames1980

Confirmation Statement (showing Share Ownership) available on Companies House on 16:41 - Jun 19 by 100notout

So a few observations from that ..........

Americans own c15%
Board own c41% (Andrew Kelly now the 2nd largest individual holder at c11.5%)
5 others own 23% (inc Exors of Jim Marsh 7% and Dale Trust 2.5%)

The purchase of Dunphys shares completed on 4th Oct 2019
Kellys purchase of Leodis shares completed on 20th Jan 2020
[Post edited 19 Jun 2020 16:56]


So 36% more and the Americans gain control, who might they most likely obtain those from?

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Confirmation Statement (showing Share Ownership) available on Companies House on 17:11 - Jun 19 with 6820 viewsSuddenLad

Confirmation Statement (showing Share Ownership) available on Companies House on 17:04 - Jun 19 by James1980

So 36% more and the Americans gain control, who might they most likely obtain those from?


They could start by offering to buy shares from the relatives/estate of the late Jim Marsh.

“It is easier to fool people, than to convince them that they have been fooled”

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Confirmation Statement (showing Share Ownership) available on Companies House on 17:57 - Jun 19 with 6717 viewselectricblue

And how would they find out who is now deceased and owns shares..

I wouldnt be happy receiving some form of communication asking if im willing to sell my late partners shares......

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Confirmation Statement (showing Share Ownership) available on Companies House on 18:05 - Jun 19 with 6686 viewsDale23years

Confirmation Statement (showing Share Ownership) available on Companies House on 17:57 - Jun 19 by electricblue

And how would they find out who is now deceased and owns shares..

I wouldnt be happy receiving some form of communication asking if im willing to sell my late partners shares......


Why ??

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Confirmation Statement (showing Share Ownership) available on Companies House on 18:10 - Jun 19 with 6664 viewsfitzochris

Confirmation Statement (showing Share Ownership) available on Companies House on 17:57 - Jun 19 by electricblue

And how would they find out who is now deceased and owns shares..

I wouldnt be happy receiving some form of communication asking if im willing to sell my late partners shares......


Why? They may not realise they can monetise them and may be grateful to hear that they can.

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Confirmation Statement (showing Share Ownership) available on Companies House on 18:22 - Jun 19 with 6609 viewsJames1980

Confirmation Statement (showing Share Ownership) available on Companies House on 18:10 - Jun 19 by fitzochris

Why? They may not realise they can monetise them and may be grateful to hear that they can.


Especially in these uncertain times

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Confirmation Statement (showing Share Ownership) available on Companies House on 18:35 - Jun 19 with 6562 viewsBigDaveMyCock

Confirmation Statement (showing Share Ownership) available on Companies House on 16:00 - Jun 19 by fitzochris

That was the point I was making to our Electric friend.


Gary Numan?

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Confirmation Statement (showing Share Ownership) available on Companies House on 18:46 - Jun 19 with 6528 viewsfitzochris

Confirmation Statement (showing Share Ownership) available on Companies House on 18:35 - Jun 19 by BigDaveMyCock

Gary Numan?


I prefer Gary Oldman.

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Confirmation Statement (showing Share Ownership) available on Companies House on 18:54 - Jun 19 with 6491 viewsBigDaveMyCock

Confirmation Statement (showing Share Ownership) available on Companies House on 18:46 - Jun 19 by fitzochris

I prefer Gary Oldman.


Our friends are temperamental method actors doesn’t roll off the tongue quite as easily.

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Confirmation Statement (showing Share Ownership) available on Companies House on 19:00 - Jun 19 with 6466 viewsfitzochris

Confirmation Statement (showing Share Ownership) available on Companies House on 18:54 - Jun 19 by BigDaveMyCock

Our friends are temperamental method actors doesn’t roll off the tongue quite as easily.


Our friend’s eclectic?

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Confirmation Statement (showing Share Ownership) available on Companies House on 20:16 - Jun 19 with 6309 viewsThacks_Rabbits

Confirmation Statement (showing Share Ownership) available on Companies House on 19:00 - Jun 19 by fitzochris

Our friend’s eclectic?


Out of interest how would you get the shares transferred?

My grandad is on that list and he died nearly 30 years ago. He only had a relatively small holding but all these little bits make a difference!

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