| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? 14:31 - Mar 4 with 7402 views | RblockPrior |
I really worry about us in 10-15 years as I seem to be see less and less younger fans at Loftus road, many I speak to tell me their son/daughter no longer follow QPR or just have no interest.
With what promises to be a difficult next few years ahead I doubt we will be able to attract fans due to our attractive football or star players, while the area is changing massively so I don't see people being attracted to supporting their local club like many of us did years and years ago. Add to that the surrounding clubs who are all performing better and well set up like Chelsea, Brentford and Fulham, why would someone support QPR out of those.
A real issue the club needs to address or am i just overreacting? [Post edited 4 Mar 2019 14:44]
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| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 19:13 - Mar 4 with 2046 views | PunteR |
| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 14:59 - Mar 4 by toboboly |
I think the placement of the family stand is the issue rather than its existence. Move it to the School Lower and make the Loft Lower safe standing and 99% of people will be happy.
On a side note if we got safe standing in first it would bring in more people and would allow us to increase our seasons footfall with minimum outlay. |
When we was in the prem we had the lower school end. Went in there a couple of times.
You get pelted.
I think give the kids the executive seats on South Africa rd. Under 16's a fiver, cheaper food and drinks. |  |
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| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 19:16 - Mar 4 with 2037 views | Rog |
| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 19:08 - Mar 4 by Toast_R |
Of empty seats |
Against Leeds it was R Block that was empty |  | | |
| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 19:18 - Mar 4 with 2028 views | Boston |
My three all follow Rangers, no pressure, gave ‘em a choice , follow QPR or you’re not in the will. | |
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| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 19:43 - Mar 4 with 2005 views | Juzzie |
| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 16:28 - Mar 4 by MileEndR |
Plenty of us younger fans knocking about at the moment, but we're definitely in the minority at games these days. Most of my mates of my age who are football fans support fcking Man United or Liverpool... |
Do you think the younger support just has so much more, outside of football, to choose from these days?
In the 80s and 90s we didnt have top end consoles, computers, phones, ipads, netflix, amazon prime, facebook, instagram.... the list is endless.
It feels to me every leisure industry is stuggling in an environment thats over saturated. |  | | |
| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 20:05 - Mar 4 with 1976 views | kensalriser |
| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 19:43 - Mar 4 by Juzzie |
Do you think the younger support just has so much more, outside of football, to choose from these days?
In the 80s and 90s we didnt have top end consoles, computers, phones, ipads, netflix, amazon prime, facebook, instagram.... the list is endless.
It feels to me every leisure industry is stuggling in an environment thats over saturated. |
There's quite a lot to that. When I was a teenager there was music and football, that was pretty much it, and you had to go out as there was fck all to do at home. |  |
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| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 20:21 - Mar 4 with 1951 views | BushRanger82 |
Look, as things stand, the club looks to exit from the domestic cup competitions as quickly as they possibly can, so there's never any danger we will see Rangers at Wembley any time soon.
The league, whichever one we happen to be struggling in, is all that matters.
Even if when we get to the premier league, all the club is interested in, is finishing at least 17th.
We are not winners. Christ on a bike, one trophy to our name since we were formed in 1882, is testament to that.
We are dying a slow death. Apathy is prevalent among a growing number of our long-standing, long-suffering, supporters.
A few clowns in cat suits doing God knows what by way of entertaining kids, just 'aint gonna cut it.
Only a change in attitude from the club, a hunger, a real hunger for success on the field, will do the trick. |  | | |
| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 20:27 - Mar 4 with 1943 views | Boston |
| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 20:05 - Mar 4 by kensalriser |
There's quite a lot to that. When I was a teenager there was music and football, that was pretty much it, and you had to go out as there was fck all to do at home. |
Crickey Riser, sounds bleak, no public bars or wanton vandalism! [Post edited 4 Mar 2019 20:30]
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| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 23:14 - Mar 4 with 1867 views | stowmarketrange |
| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 14:33 - Mar 4 by daveB |
The club do a brilliant job of this with the Family Stand and the Fan Zone before the game plus the Soccer Schools to attract and give younger fans a reason to come back. Sadly rather than celebrate this every fans forum sees fans ask them to scrap this so we can go back to a mythical time when the Lower Loft was jumping.
you are right though I can only see our fan base shrinking rather than growing in the next few years |
During ht at most homes you get Jude dancing in front of the R block and Spark normally doing his thing in front of the paddocks.
Shouldn’t they be interacting with the youngsters in the family stand instead of just wandering past as the 2nd half starts?
As others have said about the lower loft,by all means have the lower loft as a family stand,but do we need all of it set aside for families?
Why not give half of the stand to the family stand and the other half to mixed qpr fans?Have the numbers of kids actually increased over the time of the stand being solely for kids?If the kids half is properly policed in terms of ensuring the people in there had a child with them,it has to be better than it is now. |  | | |
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| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 23:22 - Mar 4 with 1852 views | CroydonCaptJack |
| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 20:21 - Mar 4 by BushRanger82 |
Look, as things stand, the club looks to exit from the domestic cup competitions as quickly as they possibly can, so there's never any danger we will see Rangers at Wembley any time soon.
The league, whichever one we happen to be struggling in, is all that matters.
Even if when we get to the premier league, all the club is interested in, is finishing at least 17th.
We are not winners. Christ on a bike, one trophy to our name since we were formed in 1882, is testament to that.
We are dying a slow death. Apathy is prevalent among a growing number of our long-standing, long-suffering, supporters.
A few clowns in cat suits doing God knows what by way of entertaining kids, just 'aint gonna cut it.
Only a change in attitude from the club, a hunger, a real hunger for success on the field, will do the trick. |
You are a barrel of laughs eh! |  | | |
| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 00:27 - Mar 5 with 1819 views | superhoopdownunder |
| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 23:14 - Mar 4 by stowmarketrange |
During ht at most homes you get Jude dancing in front of the R block and Spark normally doing his thing in front of the paddocks.
Shouldn’t they be interacting with the youngsters in the family stand instead of just wandering past as the 2nd half starts?
As others have said about the lower loft,by all means have the lower loft as a family stand,but do we need all of it set aside for families?
Why not give half of the stand to the family stand and the other half to mixed qpr fans?Have the numbers of kids actually increased over the time of the stand being solely for kids?If the kids half is properly policed in terms of ensuring the people in there had a child with them,it has to be better than it is now. |
Agree - would change the family stand to the family area and give them one third of the lower loft and open up the rest to other QPR fans | | | |
| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 00:50 - Mar 5 with 1810 views | NW5Hoop |
| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 14:59 - Mar 4 by toboboly |
I think the placement of the family stand is the issue rather than its existence. Move it to the School Lower and make the Loft Lower safe standing and 99% of people will be happy.
On a side note if we got safe standing in first it would bring in more people and would allow us to increase our seasons footfall with minimum outlay. |
You can't put loads of kids underneath the away end. You just can't. | | | |
| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 01:38 - Mar 5 with 1801 views | timcocking |
No, i think it's an all too real and very worrying issue.
Go back a generation and every team was guaranteed plenty of local support at the very least. Now, it's very easy to imagine more and more youngsters gravitating towards the 'big teams'. Why on Earth would any youngster who isn't forced to go by his family/friends or perhaps live really locally possibly be a QPR fan? We're worse now than Brentford and Fulham it seems.
Very worrying long term outlook for us i should imagine. |  | | |
| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 08:15 - Mar 5 with 1732 views | stowmarketrange |
| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 23:14 - Mar 4 by stowmarketrange |
During ht at most homes you get Jude dancing in front of the R block and Spark normally doing his thing in front of the paddocks.
Shouldn’t they be interacting with the youngsters in the family stand instead of just wandering past as the 2nd half starts?
As others have said about the lower loft,by all means have the lower loft as a family stand,but do we need all of it set aside for families?
Why not give half of the stand to the family stand and the other half to mixed qpr fans?Have the numbers of kids actually increased over the time of the stand being solely for kids?If the kids half is properly policed in terms of ensuring the people in there had a child with them,it has to be better than it is now. |
I forgot to add my take on legroom.The lower loft has more room than many other stands for adults to sit in rather than trying to squeeze into ellerslie,South Africa Rd or the upper loft,but we give it to the people who mainly need less legroom.
I sat in the upper loft for the Watford game,and I couldn’t fit into the seat.And it was only half full up there for that game.I think I would think twice about going to games if those stands were my only options. | | | |
| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 08:41 - Mar 5 with 1707 views | toboboly |
| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 00:50 - Mar 5 by NW5Hoop |
You can't put loads of kids underneath the away end. You just can't. |
Why not? Often it is used for schools cheap tickets currently. Also sat there a number of games when the club was doing offers (both Championship and PL) and I couldn't have told you anything about what was going on above me. You are completely insulated and safe. |  |
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| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 09:39 - Mar 5 with 1668 views | NW5Hoop |
| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 08:41 - Mar 5 by toboboly |
Why not? Often it is used for schools cheap tickets currently. Also sat there a number of games when the club was doing offers (both Championship and PL) and I couldn't have told you anything about what was going on above me. You are completely insulated and safe. |
1. The lower tier of the School End needs to be kept for away fans for Cup games where we need to guarantee capacity. And for those league games where the visiting team is going to sell it out. It makes more financial sense to keep it for that when we are never getting anywhere near selling out home tickets.
2. While it may be fine for most games, there are some it just would not be right for. Millwall? Leeds? Birmingham? Cardiff? Seriously? Would you put a bunch of kids underneath those fans? I know the actual risk is small, but there is still the risk.
3. You want to make coming to QPR as attractive as possible not just for kids but for the parents who are taking them. I know I wouldn't have wanted to take my lad to sit underneath the away fans when he was little.
4. The kids won't actually get any impression of what it's like to support QPR. All the noise they'll hear is from the away fans (in the event the QPR fans make any noise). | | | |
| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 09:51 - Mar 5 with 1647 views | PunteR |
| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 08:41 - Mar 5 by toboboly |
Why not? Often it is used for schools cheap tickets currently. Also sat there a number of games when the club was doing offers (both Championship and PL) and I couldn't have told you anything about what was going on above me. You are completely insulated and safe. |
Must be just when we play villa then. Got coffee and other bits thrown over in that game. There were games where that didnt happen though to be fair.
I do think if the club really wanted to attract families and youngsters then give them the best seats in the house. S Africa rd upper , smack bang in the middle above the tunnel. Sod the celebrities and VIP's with their blankets when it gets cold. | |
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| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 09:54 - Mar 5 with 1644 views | toboboly |
| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 09:39 - Mar 5 by NW5Hoop |
1. The lower tier of the School End needs to be kept for away fans for Cup games where we need to guarantee capacity. And for those league games where the visiting team is going to sell it out. It makes more financial sense to keep it for that when we are never getting anywhere near selling out home tickets.
2. While it may be fine for most games, there are some it just would not be right for. Millwall? Leeds? Birmingham? Cardiff? Seriously? Would you put a bunch of kids underneath those fans? I know the actual risk is small, but there is still the risk.
3. You want to make coming to QPR as attractive as possible not just for kids but for the parents who are taking them. I know I wouldn't have wanted to take my lad to sit underneath the away fans when he was little.
4. The kids won't actually get any impression of what it's like to support QPR. All the noise they'll hear is from the away fans (in the event the QPR fans make any noise). |
- cup games are different and can be organised as such. Other stadiums do this, not a new thing or a problem.
- As previously said being underneath has no detrimental effect. Don't use the first few rows if necessary. I have been there and couldn't hear/see/interact with anyone on the top tier.
- see above. You would never know and there are separate entrances a stadium apart.
- See above, you can't hear them. They would hear QPR fans much better than away fans. | |
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| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 10:19 - Mar 5 with 1623 views | daveB |
| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 23:14 - Mar 4 by stowmarketrange |
During ht at most homes you get Jude dancing in front of the R block and Spark normally doing his thing in front of the paddocks.
Shouldn’t they be interacting with the youngsters in the family stand instead of just wandering past as the 2nd half starts?
As others have said about the lower loft,by all means have the lower loft as a family stand,but do we need all of it set aside for families?
Why not give half of the stand to the family stand and the other half to mixed qpr fans?Have the numbers of kids actually increased over the time of the stand being solely for kids?If the kids half is properly policed in terms of ensuring the people in there had a child with them,it has to be better than it is now. |
They usually have Spark doing stuff on the concourse with kids and Jude appears after the game, they do loads of kids, as a Dad I can't complain about any of it they go above and beyond to make them welcome.
Big problem with it all though is when they did have more relaxed rules on the family stand we had a game once where some kids and their parents got some right stick from older fans as they didn't belong here etc and should f off, complaints were made to the club and the rules changed making it harder to get tickets in the lower loft if you don't have kids.
Wouldn't disagree with the idea of splitting the stand in half but that would involved moving plenty of people out of their seats to accommodate this |  | | |
| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 11:10 - Mar 5 with 1586 views | stowmarketrange |
| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 10:19 - Mar 5 by daveB |
They usually have Spark doing stuff on the concourse with kids and Jude appears after the game, they do loads of kids, as a Dad I can't complain about any of it they go above and beyond to make them welcome.
Big problem with it all though is when they did have more relaxed rules on the family stand we had a game once where some kids and their parents got some right stick from older fans as they didn't belong here etc and should f off, complaints were made to the club and the rules changed making it harder to get tickets in the lower loft if you don't have kids.
Wouldn't disagree with the idea of splitting the stand in half but that would involved moving plenty of people out of their seats to accommodate this |
I don’t think the club enforce it very well at all.For the Watford game it was a complete sell out in the lower loft,but lots of single seats were on sale before the game.How did these seats get bought by adults when you’re supposed to have a child with you in order to sit there?
There are loads of pairs of seats used in there every week by the same people who never seem to have children with them.
As for fans having to move,at least they will be able to sit in the same stand,Although in a different part of it,something which has not been offered to the 100’s of fans who had sat or stood in the lower loft for decades.Some of who gave up going to games because of being forced out of the best stand for leg room,views and atmosphere.
If the family stand figures had grown over the years,I would agree with the idea of it,but it leaves vast areas of unused and unusable seats in a major part of the ground where long term fans used to sit.
Why not use the blocks to the right of the goal next to the paddocks as the family area.The kids could see the players warming up before the game and the subs warming up during the game.If the numbers increase they could move the family area into the next block as well,but it has to be policed properly so that only families use it rather than the free fo all that occurs over the whole stand now.
Surely this solution would be best for everyone concerned because it would ONLY be families in that area,and it would free up the rest of the stand for other mixed qpr fans.
I’m sorry for the people who would have to move out of those blocks but they will have to move once their children grow up anyway.At least my idea will mean that they can still sit in the lower loft in future years once their kids have grown up or stopped coming. | | | |
| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 12:49 - Mar 5 with 1533 views | JJB |
| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 14:59 - Mar 4 by toboboly |
I think the placement of the family stand is the issue rather than its existence. Move it to the School Lower and make the Loft Lower safe standing and 99% of people will be happy.
On a side note if we got safe standing in first it would bring in more people and would allow us to increase our seasons footfall with minimum outlay. |
And what, have all the Leeds, Villa and Derby fans throwing beer bottles and spitting down on them?
What a lovely day out for the children that. |  |
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| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 13:03 - Mar 5 with 1489 views | daveB |
| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 11:10 - Mar 5 by stowmarketrange |
I don’t think the club enforce it very well at all.For the Watford game it was a complete sell out in the lower loft,but lots of single seats were on sale before the game.How did these seats get bought by adults when you’re supposed to have a child with you in order to sit there?
There are loads of pairs of seats used in there every week by the same people who never seem to have children with them.
As for fans having to move,at least they will be able to sit in the same stand,Although in a different part of it,something which has not been offered to the 100’s of fans who had sat or stood in the lower loft for decades.Some of who gave up going to games because of being forced out of the best stand for leg room,views and atmosphere.
If the family stand figures had grown over the years,I would agree with the idea of it,but it leaves vast areas of unused and unusable seats in a major part of the ground where long term fans used to sit.
Why not use the blocks to the right of the goal next to the paddocks as the family area.The kids could see the players warming up before the game and the subs warming up during the game.If the numbers increase they could move the family area into the next block as well,but it has to be policed properly so that only families use it rather than the free fo all that occurs over the whole stand now.
Surely this solution would be best for everyone concerned because it would ONLY be families in that area,and it would free up the rest of the stand for other mixed qpr fans.
I’m sorry for the people who would have to move out of those blocks but they will have to move once their children grow up anyway.At least my idea will mean that they can still sit in the lower loft in future years once their kids have grown up or stopped coming. |
would ask again where are these fans who want these seats? Why are they not filling the rest of the stadium which is half empty most weeks.
I just think moving several hundred people out of their seats again would achieve nothing other than to piss off more people quite happy sitting where they are. | | | |
| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 13:31 - Mar 5 with 1444 views | stowmarketrange |
| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 13:03 - Mar 5 by daveB |
would ask again where are these fans who want these seats? Why are they not filling the rest of the stadium which is half empty most weeks.
I just think moving several hundred people out of their seats again would achieve nothing other than to piss off more people quite happy sitting where they are. |
Maybe a lot don’t come any more because they find it so uncomfortable to sit in the other stands.I know after my experience in the back row of PU that i’d think twice about sitting up there permanently.
I don’t know if it’s better to have a half empty stand behind the goal,or half empty stands on the other 3 sides,but they get more money from an adult season ticket than they do a kids,or U18 one.
It’s gone on for 10-15 seasons and it isn’t working and growing as the club might’ve hoped it would have done. | | | |
| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 14:21 - Mar 5 with 1409 views | headhoops |
| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 12:49 - Mar 5 by JJB |
And what, have all the Leeds, Villa and Derby fans throwing beer bottles and spitting down on them?
What a lovely day out for the children that. |
why do we need to have the lower tier? Make the family section the Upper Tier and limit the away fans to the bottom. Exit each stand on opposite sides. Debatable is whether that would meet our obligations on the number of away tickets. Alternatively stick the away fans in the SAR paddocks, or section off a third of the Ellerslie Road.
I have more faith in Hoos making a new ground happen - but with uncle Tone in the background I'm not holding my breathe. That leaves us with a state of the art stadium made for the 70's. Leg room is appalling, facilities are appalling and at around £1,500 a season for ticket,travel and a half time drink that would be bearable if we had a quality product. Sadly at the moment we don't. |  |
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| Where is the next generation of QPR fans coming from? on 14:31 - Mar 5 with 1393 views | TacticalR |
I think we're going to need some kind of breeding program. |  |
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