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Carlos a genius....or was Clement shyte ? 21:56 - Jan 30 with 5573 viewssainthelens

Was a topic of discussion with the lads tonight.... discuss.
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Carlos a genius....or was Clement shyte ? on 21:57 - Jan 30 with 4109 viewsPozuelosSideys

Clement shyte

Take nothing from Carlos though. He seems to have spotted what needed changing, improved confidence and is fitting round pegs in round holes

"Michu, Britton and Williams could have won 3-0 on their own. They wouldn't have required a keeper."
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Carlos a genius....or was Clement shyte ? on 21:58 - Jan 30 with 4081 viewsFireboy2

Clement was too afraid to lose and his negativity rubbed off on the players

Whereas carlos the jackal is the total opposite

Nuff said
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Carlos a genius....or was Clement shyte ? on 21:58 - Jan 30 with 4078 viewsawayjack

CC given team a plan and players confidence. PC did neither so was shite.
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Carlos a genius....or was Clement shyte ? on 21:58 - Jan 30 with 4068 viewsyescomeon

Both

Upthecity!

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Carlos a genius....or was Clement shyte ? on 21:59 - Jan 30 with 4035 viewsperchrockjack

Rhetorical question

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Carlos a genius....or was Clement shyte ? on 22:00 - Jan 30 with 4009 viewsshandyjack

it's a tough one, PC had us defending as well as we are now but without the pressing and attacking at pace on the counter. Without that we were constantly under pressure for 90 mins which inevitably led to defeat after defeat

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Carlos a genius....or was Clement shyte ? on 22:30 - Jan 30 with 3713 viewsPorthcawlswan

Carlos a genius....or was Clement shyte ? on 22:00 - Jan 30 by shandyjack

it's a tough one, PC had us defending as well as we are now but without the pressing and attacking at pace on the counter. Without that we were constantly under pressure for 90 mins which inevitably led to defeat after defeat


This is the best summary I've seen!
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Carlos a genius....or was Clement shyte ? on 22:34 - Jan 30 with 3637 viewsPrivate_Partz

Carlos is an experienced manager Clement was not.
Neither have had much support from our DOF. Carlos can cope with it (so far) whereas Clement could not.

You have mission in life to hold out your hand, To help the other guy out, Help your fellow man. Stan Ridgway

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Carlos a genius....or was Clement shyte ? on 22:37 - Jan 30 with 3609 viewsChrisSCFC

It was always going to be a struggle having your 2 best players sold on you but it was almost like PC gave up there & then, his negative aura from the opening day was like a foul, lingering smell and the less said about his team selections & tactics the better.

Think he deserves a bit more respect for keeping us up than he's got from certain sections though.

As for Carlos to call him a genius would be to do him a disservice at the rate he's going Renato Sanches will be world class within 6 weeks.
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Carlos a genius....or was Clement shyte ? on 22:40 - Jan 30 with 3557 viewsswanseacityx

Clement was shyte. 100%.

We had no plan under Clement...we did not play :

Pressing
Counter
Posession
Aggressive

Nothing....we just plodded everygame until we conceded a goal then started playing.

The way our players have improved...we dont really need new signings either.
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Carlos a genius....or was Clement shyte ? on 22:46 - Jan 30 with 3473 viewsTheKirkyLife

In retrospect it was clear that Clement relied solely on the combination of Llorente-Sigurdsson-Carroll/Olssen to get the goals with a bit of Mawson sprinkled on top. As soon as the first two were sold and no replacement came in for Glyfi he was completely out of ideas. He thought Sanches would be a world beater but alas he was not. Clement never feared for his position and his stagnation cost us big.

Carlos found another way. More importantly he didn't just drop anyone into the cold. The only person who came close was Mesa and that was because negotiation with Sevilla came into play. He's worked hard on the likes of Ayew/Clucas/Sanches and we've seen such a huge upturn from these players. He's also such a positive breath of fresh air.
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Carlos a genius....or was Clement shyte ? on 22:50 - Jan 30 with 3423 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Carlos a genius....or was Clement shyte ? on 22:40 - Jan 30 by swanseacityx

Clement was shyte. 100%.

We had no plan under Clement...we did not play :

Pressing
Counter
Posession
Aggressive

Nothing....we just plodded everygame until we conceded a goal then started playing.

The way our players have improved...we dont really need new signings either.


Yet Jenkins hired him........

Each time I go to Bedd - au........................

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Carlos a genius....or was Clement shyte ? on 22:54 - Jan 30 with 3366 viewsswanseacityx

Carlos a genius....or was Clement shyte ? on 22:50 - Jan 30 by Brynmill_Jack

Yet Jenkins hired him........


He also hired Carvalhal.

Go stick your negative head in a blender.
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Carlos a genius....or was Clement shyte ? on 22:56 - Jan 30 with 3331 viewsWarwickHunt

Carlos a genius....or was Clement shyte ? on 22:54 - Jan 30 by swanseacityx

He also hired Carvalhal.

Go stick your negative head in a blender.


If you hurry you can just catch last orders for food in the Vivs.

You massive, massive plum.
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Carlos a genius....or was Clement shyte ? on 22:57 - Jan 30 with 3308 viewsswanseacityx

Carlos a genius....or was Clement shyte ? on 22:56 - Jan 30 by WarwickHunt

If you hurry you can just catch last orders for food in the Vivs.

You massive, massive plum.


Who put 10p in this clown?
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Carlos a genius....or was Clement shyte ? on 23:05 - Jan 30 with 3249 viewsDr_Winston

Our second goal neatly illustrates the differences in our approach under Clement and Carvalhal.

Three Swans players in the Arsenal box pressurising their defence and keeper into making a mistake. Under Clement the closest Swans player would probably have been 30 yards away scurrying back into "shape".

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Carlos a genius....or was Clement shyte ? on 23:07 - Jan 30 with 3226 viewsWarwickHunt

Carlos a genius....or was Clement shyte ? on 22:57 - Jan 30 by swanseacityx

Who put 10p in this clown?


Only 10p? If only I could find that magic cashpoint...
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Carlos a genius....or was Clement shyte ? on 23:07 - Jan 30 with 3223 viewsswanseacityx

Carlos a genius....or was Clement shyte ? on 23:05 - Jan 30 by Dr_Winston

Our second goal neatly illustrates the differences in our approach under Clement and Carvalhal.

Three Swans players in the Arsenal box pressurising their defence and keeper into making a mistake. Under Clement the closest Swans player would probably have been 30 yards away scurrying back into "shape".


Agree
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Carlos a genius....or was Clement shyte ? on 23:08 - Jan 30 with 3206 views34dfgdf54

Carlos a genius....or was Clement shyte ? on 23:05 - Jan 30 by Dr_Winston

Our second goal neatly illustrates the differences in our approach under Clement and Carvalhal.

Three Swans players in the Arsenal box pressurising their defence and keeper into making a mistake. Under Clement the closest Swans player would probably have been 30 yards away scurrying back into "shape".


Would be interesting to see the distance covered stats between both managers. We seem so much more energetic in midfield, closing players down, making tackles etc.

Clement was an absolute disaster this season, still think we could rue not getting shot 6 weeks earlier.
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Carlos a genius....or was Clement shyte ? on 23:10 - Jan 30 with 3176 viewsswanseacityx

Carlos a genius....or was Clement shyte ? on 23:08 - Jan 30 by 34dfgdf54

Would be interesting to see the distance covered stats between both managers. We seem so much more energetic in midfield, closing players down, making tackles etc.

Clement was an absolute disaster this season, still think we could rue not getting shot 6 weeks earlier.


Should have gone earlier but we have a great chance now.

4 weeks ago I thought we were 80% down

Now I would say its 60 / 40 in our favour
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Carlos a genius....or was Clement shyte ? on 23:12 - Jan 30 with 3159 viewsbarry_island

Carlos a genius....or was Clement shyte ? on 22:57 - Jan 30 by swanseacityx

Who put 10p in this clown?


Swanseacityx you have to understand not everything comes from a vending machine.

Swansea City, THE Austerity Club.

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Carlos a genius....or was Clement shyte ? on 23:13 - Jan 30 with 3139 viewsPrivate_Partz

Carlos a genius....or was Clement shyte ? on 22:40 - Jan 30 by swanseacityx

Clement was shyte. 100%.

We had no plan under Clement...we did not play :

Pressing
Counter
Posession
Aggressive

Nothing....we just plodded everygame until we conceded a goal then started playing.

The way our players have improved...we dont really need new signings either.


Don't agree with that. . If we get any more injuries we will be decimated. We need to strengthen.
Carlos and our team deserves our full support and that of his DOF.
Clement was an inexperienced manager who could not see a way forward with a squad he saw as imbalanced. Not just him. The vast majority on here could see the problem looming before last season even started.
Thank heavens we now appear to have someone experienced enough make the most of what we have. We ain't going to do it without support in the transfer market however imho.

You have mission in life to hold out your hand, To help the other guy out, Help your fellow man. Stan Ridgway

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Carlos a genius....or was Clement shyte ? on 23:14 - Jan 30 with 3130 viewsDr_Winston

Carlos a genius....or was Clement shyte ? on 23:08 - Jan 30 by 34dfgdf54

Would be interesting to see the distance covered stats between both managers. We seem so much more energetic in midfield, closing players down, making tackles etc.

Clement was an absolute disaster this season, still think we could rue not getting shot 6 weeks earlier.


Clement was a massive disappointment this year.

He's clearly a capable coach and organiser, but he needs to realise that teams have to do more than just maintain shape. He had the players to do better than he did, that much is becoming increasingly obvious.

Until he realises that it's not enough just to relentlessly drill teams into holding position, that occasionally you have to take risks, he'll always be a backup guy.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Carlos a genius....or was Clement shyte ? on 23:16 - Jan 30 with 3091 viewsstevethejack

Apart from the top 5 - we are the side in top form in the whole of the division, 10 points out of 15.
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Carlos a genius....or was Clement shyte ? on 23:33 - Jan 30 with 2972 viewsswancity

In answer to the original question, neither.

Clement has coached top clubs, by definition has worked with the best managers and players but he's too rigid and far too defensively minded to be a manager, a good one. Good managers can vary the way their team play, depending on the opposition.

Carvalhal has taken the shackles off and restored player confidence, he's been a breath of fresh air. Players are getting forward much more now but also playing with a greater hunger and intensity without the ball too.

Some bookies were giving 50/1 odds on a Swans double over Liverpool and Asrenal and there wouldn't be many takers. Two incredible wins albeit Arsenal aren't the team they were.

Only an idiot would eat a turkey curry on Christmas day

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