| Liverpool..motorway or trunk roads 10:19 - Oct 26 with 1857 views | perchrockjack |
fOLKS.
Time is the same but you ll have to put your foot down on the motorway network and just haven travelled M5 and M6 THERE ARE LOT OF ROADWORKS in Midlands WITH 45/50/60 limits. Also some in StaffS.
a483 is a drive requiring a clear head especially in the dark but the roads will be quiet..
I always say if you live Bridgend and east take motorway network..
Also note Wallasey tunnel sometimes closes at night and you have to use the old Birkenhead tunnel then go A41.
so, come up through Wales and return M62 M6 .. Drive safe..
NB coming off the M62 AS YOU REACH Liverpool there is a dual carriageway that has a 30 mph camera. It catches thousands. ITS EDGE LANE.. be careful |  |
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| Liverpool..motorway or trunk roads on 10:53 - Oct 26 with 1838 views | mark555 |
If I was returning at 10pm it would be the motorway every time for me, going up it would depend on the time of day, the motorway is a nightmare from Birmingham to Stoke around peak times.
The motorway gives you more options for stopping for a coffee as well. | | | |
| Liverpool..motorway or trunk roads on 11:22 - Oct 26 with 1819 views | Tycoch_Tyrant |
Another note about the motorways - average speed cameras are out in full working force, keep a very close eye on the speed limit as it varies frequently and has been seen to go down to 40mph - easy to get caught out! | | | |
| Liverpool..motorway or trunk roads on 11:57 - Oct 26 with 1802 views | WxmJax |
From Swansea, motorway/dual carriageway up to Hirwaun roundabout on A465. Then left on to A4059 past Penderyn and over Brecon Beacons (watch out for sheep on road). Then past Brecon, Builth, Llandrindod fairly quickly. The 27 miles between Llandrindod and Newtown has some windy bends and Newtown can be a pain with all the traffic lights but after this it's fairly quick again between here and Oswestry. Soon after Oswestry, just south of Wrexham, it's dual carriageway / motorway A483/A55/M53 all the way to the 'pool. Quite a few fast food/coffee shops/supermarkets/petrol stations next to the road on route with Tesco Welshpool and McDonalds near Chirk (Oswestry) being the only 24 hour food places en route. Should take no more than 4 hours.
Sat Nav will tell you to go through Ammanford/Llandovery A40/A483 but I avoid this as I find this road dangerous (and slower) than the above route ( even from Gorseinon). |  |
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| Liverpool..motorway or trunk roads on 18:37 - Oct 26 with 1738 views | builthjack |
| Liverpool..motorway or trunk roads on 11:57 - Oct 26 by WxmJax |
From Swansea, motorway/dual carriageway up to Hirwaun roundabout on A465. Then left on to A4059 past Penderyn and over Brecon Beacons (watch out for sheep on road). Then past Brecon, Builth, Llandrindod fairly quickly. The 27 miles between Llandrindod and Newtown has some windy bends and Newtown can be a pain with all the traffic lights but after this it's fairly quick again between here and Oswestry. Soon after Oswestry, just south of Wrexham, it's dual carriageway / motorway A483/A55/M53 all the way to the 'pool. Quite a few fast food/coffee shops/supermarkets/petrol stations next to the road on route with Tesco Welshpool and McDonalds near Chirk (Oswestry) being the only 24 hour food places en route. Should take no more than 4 hours.
Sat Nav will tell you to go through Ammanford/Llandovery A40/A483 but I avoid this as I find this road dangerous (and slower) than the above route ( even from Gorseinon). |
Swansea,Cross Hands, Llandeilo, Llandovery, Beulah, Newbridge, Rhayader, Newtown, Welshpool, Oswestry, then dual carriageway to Liverpool. Easy route, the only delay at all may be a few minutes through Newtown. |  |
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| Liverpool..motorway or trunk roads on 18:43 - Oct 26 with 1727 views | DDCH |
| Liverpool..motorway or trunk roads on 18:37 - Oct 26 by builthjack |
Swansea,Cross Hands, Llandeilo, Llandovery, Beulah, Newbridge, Rhayader, Newtown, Welshpool, Oswestry, then dual carriageway to Liverpool. Easy route, the only delay at all may be a few minutes through Newtown. |
Agree with the pair of you if at peak time, but since they built that Tesco in Newtown it can be a real bottle neck. Lost half hour there last time I came back that way heading North to South. |  |
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| Liverpool..motorway or trunk roads on 18:45 - Oct 26 with 1725 views | LeonisGod |
train for me and my lad. Makes it more like a 'proper' day out lol. Reading about the road closures and roadworks, I'm glad I chose the train. We even get 2 half days to take in some 'culture'. Any suggestions how to keep a 6 year old happy in L'pool centre for a few hours perch? |  | | |
| Liverpool..motorway or trunk roads on 18:46 - Oct 26 with 1725 views | builthjack |
| Liverpool..motorway or trunk roads on 18:43 - Oct 26 by DDCH |
Agree with the pair of you if at peak time, but since they built that Tesco in Newtown it can be a real bottle neck. Lost half hour there last time I came back that way heading North to South. |
They have altered the timing on the lights recently. It's a lot better, only a few minutes wait at most. I usually get through no probs. | |
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| Liverpool..motorway or trunk roads on 18:48 - Oct 26 with 1719 views | DDCH |
| Liverpool..motorway or trunk roads on 18:46 - Oct 26 by builthjack |
They have altered the timing on the lights recently. It's a lot better, only a few minutes wait at most. I usually get through no probs. |
That's good to know. People were shooting off into that little industrial estate past morrisons. I am sure there must be a shortcut there but didn't have the bottle to go look on the chance I put myself at the back of the queue again. It was a right pain in the arse | |
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| Liverpool..motorway or trunk roads on 19:20 - Oct 26 with 1688 views | builthjack |
| Liverpool..motorway or trunk roads on 18:48 - Oct 26 by DDCH |
That's good to know. People were shooting off into that little industrial estate past morrisons. I am sure there must be a shortcut there but didn't have the bottle to go look on the chance I put myself at the back of the queue again. It was a right pain in the arse |
Yes, go up that road about 2 miles, then along a country lane signposted Dolfor for about 3 miles. But you need to know it or you soon get lost. | |
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| Liverpool..motorway or trunk roads on 19:47 - Oct 26 with 1660 views | Tycoch_Tyrant |
| Liverpool..motorway or trunk roads on 18:45 - Oct 26 by LeonisGod |
train for me and my lad. Makes it more like a 'proper' day out lol. Reading about the road closures and roadworks, I'm glad I chose the train. We even get 2 half days to take in some 'culture'. Any suggestions how to keep a 6 year old happy in L'pool centre for a few hours perch? |
There's quite a few things to do… obviously there is loads of shopping like the lego shop, entertainer etc. but there is also the Liverpool wheel which can be good (if a bit expensive). The boats and stuff down by the docks can be interesting, though not really a patch on the marina if I'm honest. As far as museums go the museum of liverpool is good for kids, though if you after just a bit of fun there is the indoor crazy golf down by liverpool one. This is fun for kids, and tbh I've enjoyed myself there too! Not sure if the christmas market is being set up soon too. | | | |
| Liverpool..motorway or trunk roads on 20:06 - Oct 26 with 1652 views | JackFish |
Builth - Rhayader - Newtown is a much better road than going through Llandod, probably doesn't work out any quicker but much nicer to drive on. |  | | |
| Liverpool..motorway or trunk roads on 20:29 - Oct 26 with 1632 views | LeonisGod |
| Liverpool..motorway or trunk roads on 19:47 - Oct 26 by Tycoch_Tyrant |
There's quite a few things to do… obviously there is loads of shopping like the lego shop, entertainer etc. but there is also the Liverpool wheel which can be good (if a bit expensive). The boats and stuff down by the docks can be interesting, though not really a patch on the marina if I'm honest. As far as museums go the museum of liverpool is good for kids, though if you after just a bit of fun there is the indoor crazy golf down by liverpool one. This is fun for kids, and tbh I've enjoyed myself there too! Not sure if the christmas market is being set up soon too. |
Cheers, guess it will depend on the weather, but sounds like a few options there. Just Liverpool One will probably blow his socks off. He's only used to lil ol Swansea. | | | |
| Liverpool..motorway or trunk roads on 21:18 - Oct 26 with 1610 views | WxmJax |
| Liverpool..motorway or trunk roads on 19:20 - Oct 26 by builthjack |
Yes, go up that road about 2 miles, then along a country lane signposted Dolfor for about 3 miles. But you need to know it or you soon get lost. |
Coming up Norf' I turn off right half way around the bend at Dolfor (not signposted) pass the pub and then take the first left a couple of hundred yds further on (oppoosite a house). I believe it's called Upper Dolfor road, brings me out by the first/last set of traffic lights by the bridge in Newtown. I'll try the Beulah/Llandeilo road once more but I still don't think it will be as quick/safe as going over The Beacons. Found the A483 to be in a bad way from Cross Hands a couple of years ago. Will be pleased to be proven wrong though, anything to cut the journey time down. | |
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| Liverpool..motorway or trunk roads on 23:11 - Oct 26 with 1576 views | perchrockjack |
Loads for kids to do.
All the museums are great.
The walker art gallery is very big and always has stuff for kids at half term ..
The Ferris wheel is worth it too although not cheap, if it's clear you see snowdonia .
Slavery museum is where I would take them..
Check to see if town hall is open to public. It's castle St and it has a gold dome. Inside is staggering..
If you see the bhs store ,near the law courts, look up and you ll see rococo, the best coffee shop uou ll see
Xmas fairs and skating rink will, sadly be in late November..
Liverpool 1 is mainly upmarket shops but also reasonable chain stores ..
No matter what some say, it's a great city and the culture is something to behold.. | |
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