| Joe Thompson 12:18 - Feb 8 with 3192 views | tranmere1234 |
Hiya Tranmere fan here,
Rumors our end that Thompson may return to you, to be honest he has never really looked good enough for us, dropping in and out of games and has not featured at all since getting injured
Looking at your forum some people suggesting you will be getting a fee if we go up, does anyone know what the deal was with him? I know we paid a fee for him |  | | |  |
| Joe Thompson on 12:29 - Feb 8 with 3119 views | sweetcorn |
please keep him. |  |
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| Joe Thompson on 12:31 - Feb 8 with 3093 views | Yorkshire_Dale |
It's all down to Peter Cavanagh.......
.......he was absolute rubbish so we all had someone to moan at,but now he is playing a bit better so we need another scapegoat,
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| Joe Thompson on 12:34 - Feb 8 with 3069 views | macro |
He got a bit of an unfair deal at Dale but did drop out of games too often. The skill is there but sometimes the self belief isn't
As for sell ons, my guess is a extra bit of cash if Tranmere get promoted and a percentage of any profit if he was ever sold for more cash |  | | |
| Joe Thompson on 12:39 - Feb 8 with 3036 views | sandylaner1 |
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| Joe Thompson on 12:45 - Feb 8 with 3005 views | ChaffRAFC |
If there is nobody else available then Thompson would be an ok signing. If the likes of Andy Welsh are available then Thomspon can stay exactly where he is thank you.
I don't get Joe Thompson, he's a winger that can't take players on, has a decent enough cross but never gets into a position to put a ball in, he's not all that fast, no faster than any of our forward line bar Adebola and maybe Gornell and he's never, at any point been able to cement his spot in our side in all the time he was here. Rundle, Prendergast etc were all preferred to him and when it looked like Thompson would be our last option to start, Hill would go and get another loan player in who would again keep him out of the side.
He's not been all that regular at Tranmere either and as the OP suggests, hasn't looked good enough.
As for the transfer to Tranmere, I think we only recieved a fee because of his age, maybe about £20,000 using an educated guess. He was out of contract, we offered him something, then the compensation because he was under 24 was agreed by the clubs. Suspect that if we were able to, we'd have added a clause in the deal where we'd get more money from a Tranmere promotion, I'd guess at about £50,000, then a 25% sell on clause which is what we normally do.
Nowt against the lad but I do not want to see him back here unless we really are left with no other options. |  |
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| Joe Thompson on 12:48 - Feb 8 with 2979 views | sweetcorn |
| Joe Thompson on 12:45 - Feb 8 by ChaffRAFC |
If there is nobody else available then Thompson would be an ok signing. If the likes of Andy Welsh are available then Thomspon can stay exactly where he is thank you.
I don't get Joe Thompson, he's a winger that can't take players on, has a decent enough cross but never gets into a position to put a ball in, he's not all that fast, no faster than any of our forward line bar Adebola and maybe Gornell and he's never, at any point been able to cement his spot in our side in all the time he was here. Rundle, Prendergast etc were all preferred to him and when it looked like Thompson would be our last option to start, Hill would go and get another loan player in who would again keep him out of the side.
He's not been all that regular at Tranmere either and as the OP suggests, hasn't looked good enough.
As for the transfer to Tranmere, I think we only recieved a fee because of his age, maybe about £20,000 using an educated guess. He was out of contract, we offered him something, then the compensation because he was under 24 was agreed by the clubs. Suspect that if we were able to, we'd have added a clause in the deal where we'd get more money from a Tranmere promotion, I'd guess at about £50,000, then a 25% sell on clause which is what we normally do.
Nowt against the lad but I do not want to see him back here unless we really are left with no other options. |
I believe the fee that was mentioned when tranmere were on tv in the cup before was 75,000. if thats the case we virtually stole money off them. | |
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| Joe Thompson on 12:58 - Feb 8 with 2914 views | dingdangblue |
| Joe Thompson on 12:48 - Feb 8 by sweetcorn |
I believe the fee that was mentioned when tranmere were on tv in the cup before was 75,000. if thats the case we virtually stole money off them. |
He scored the winner for them at notts co so if those 3 points mean they get promoted then 75k will be money well spent. He needed a move for his own sake - he wasn't progressing at all here so for that reason I wouldn't want him back. |  |
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| Joe Thompson on 13:21 - Feb 8 with 2842 views | ColDale |
If JT has had an injury damaged season, then that's two on the trot, and for that reason alone, I'd want to stay well clear. |  | | |
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| Joe Thompson on 13:29 - Feb 8 with 2800 views | SaxonDale |
| Joe Thompson on 12:45 - Feb 8 by ChaffRAFC |
If there is nobody else available then Thompson would be an ok signing. If the likes of Andy Welsh are available then Thomspon can stay exactly where he is thank you.
I don't get Joe Thompson, he's a winger that can't take players on, has a decent enough cross but never gets into a position to put a ball in, he's not all that fast, no faster than any of our forward line bar Adebola and maybe Gornell and he's never, at any point been able to cement his spot in our side in all the time he was here. Rundle, Prendergast etc were all preferred to him and when it looked like Thompson would be our last option to start, Hill would go and get another loan player in who would again keep him out of the side.
He's not been all that regular at Tranmere either and as the OP suggests, hasn't looked good enough.
As for the transfer to Tranmere, I think we only recieved a fee because of his age, maybe about £20,000 using an educated guess. He was out of contract, we offered him something, then the compensation because he was under 24 was agreed by the clubs. Suspect that if we were able to, we'd have added a clause in the deal where we'd get more money from a Tranmere promotion, I'd guess at about £50,000, then a 25% sell on clause which is what we normally do.
Nowt against the lad but I do not want to see him back here unless we really are left with no other options. |
The arrival of Thompson on the right wing could allow Rafferty/Bennett to flourish at right back, much the same as it allowed Wiseman to. Thompson was always very good defensively which was something that many overlooked. If you look at the majority of our performances against the big teams during our League 1 campaign Thompson played. |  | | |
| Joe Thompson on 14:21 - Feb 8 with 2676 views | NotEyreClue |
| Joe Thompson on 13:29 - Feb 8 by SaxonDale |
The arrival of Thompson on the right wing could allow Rafferty/Bennett to flourish at right back, much the same as it allowed Wiseman to. Thompson was always very good defensively which was something that many overlooked. If you look at the majority of our performances against the big teams during our League 1 campaign Thompson played. |
Whilst he was decent defensively, tracking back is not the primary role of a winger. A winger should be able to beat a man/and or at least get in a position to put a decent cross on. The fact of the matter is that Joe always seemed more scared of losing the ball and getting lambasted for it and so tended to go backwards and ruin any chance of a pacey counter-attack that we had going on. If Jonah was known as the crab then Joey T should be known as The Moonwalker. Don't want him back here even as a last reort unless Tranmere were paying 100 percent of his wages (which won't happen). |  |
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| Joe Thompson on 14:30 - Feb 8 with 2651 views | SaxonDale |
| Joe Thompson on 14:21 - Feb 8 by NotEyreClue |
Whilst he was decent defensively, tracking back is not the primary role of a winger. A winger should be able to beat a man/and or at least get in a position to put a decent cross on. The fact of the matter is that Joe always seemed more scared of losing the ball and getting lambasted for it and so tended to go backwards and ruin any chance of a pacey counter-attack that we had going on. If Jonah was known as the crab then Joey T should be known as The Moonwalker. Don't want him back here even as a last reort unless Tranmere were paying 100 percent of his wages (which won't happen). |
I thought he was simply a right midfielder. Not every game in suitable for having a Haworth type player on both flanks, Thompson's not someone to change the game when coming on from the bench but when he starts he offers solidity-which has been missing this season- to the team. To put it simply if he was no good then there would be no way that he would have been consistently picked in Rochdale's big games such as Southampton, Sheff Weds, Charlton etc. | | | |
| Joe Thompson on 15:12 - Feb 8 with 2564 views | ThreeLions |
No ta, you can keep him there la |  | | |
| Joe Thompson on 15:23 - Feb 8 with 2526 views | NotEyreClue |
| Joe Thompson on 14:30 - Feb 8 by SaxonDale |
I thought he was simply a right midfielder. Not every game in suitable for having a Haworth type player on both flanks, Thompson's not someone to change the game when coming on from the bench but when he starts he offers solidity-which has been missing this season- to the team. To put it simply if he was no good then there would be no way that he would have been consistently picked in Rochdale's big games such as Southampton, Sheff Weds, Charlton etc. |
A right winger or right midfielder, the point still stands that he barely ever tried beating a man and putting a cross in. The roles really aren't that different, shall we just call him a wide man for the sake of argument? You can't justify him being any good based on his inclusion in the first 11. Managers simply have their favourites and he was definitely Hill's golden boy. The fact that he won apprentice of the year also suggests that the brown tonguing was well reciprocated too. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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| Joe Thompson on 15:38 - Feb 8 with 2485 views | 442Dale |
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| Joe Thompson on 16:36 - Feb 8 with 2406 views | bamford_dale |
For me, Joey played his best football after Christmas in our first season back in League 1 before picking up an injury (if my memory serves me right).
He played behind the striker and looked threatening, particularly in the air. I thought we were really about to see him blossom and turn into the player many people thought they saw glimpses of in the years before.
Shame really.
I for one wouldn't be against having him back, but he has to be fit. Otherwise it's just a wage we could use better. |  | | |
| Joe Thompson on 19:51 - Feb 8 with 2189 views | SaxonDale |
| Joe Thompson on 15:23 - Feb 8 by NotEyreClue |
A right winger or right midfielder, the point still stands that he barely ever tried beating a man and putting a cross in. The roles really aren't that different, shall we just call him a wide man for the sake of argument? You can't justify him being any good based on his inclusion in the first 11. Managers simply have their favourites and he was definitely Hill's golden boy. The fact that he won apprentice of the year also suggests that the brown tonguing was well reciprocated too. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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Why can't I justify him being good based on his inclusion in the first 11? To suggest Hill would play him in important games that would impact Hill's future just because he liked him is ridiculous. If being a wideman was simply about beating a man and putting in a good cross then why was Milner a regular starter for England in the Euros? He's far from the best England have got when it comes to going forward. | | | |
| Joe Thompson on 20:22 - Feb 8 with 2129 views | 442Dale |
| Joe Thompson on 14:30 - Feb 8 by SaxonDale |
I thought he was simply a right midfielder. Not every game in suitable for having a Haworth type player on both flanks, Thompson's not someone to change the game when coming on from the bench but when he starts he offers solidity-which has been missing this season- to the team. To put it simply if he was no good then there would be no way that he would have been consistently picked in Rochdale's big games such as Southampton, Sheff Weds, Charlton etc. |
But he wasn't consistently picked. Was a very late sub at Saints and also on the bench v Charlton at home. He did start and score v Southampton at home, also started away at Charlton and at Sheff Wed earlier in the season, but he didn't feature at all in our fantastic win v Wednesday at Spotland, injured I believe.
During the latter part of that season he was used in rotation with the like of Adams, Done, JLAA and Atkinson. COG was the only regular in the front three. | |
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| Joe Thompson on 21:28 - Feb 8 with 2079 views | SaxonDale |
| Joe Thompson on 20:22 - Feb 8 by 442Dale |
But he wasn't consistently picked. Was a very late sub at Saints and also on the bench v Charlton at home. He did start and score v Southampton at home, also started away at Charlton and at Sheff Wed earlier in the season, but he didn't feature at all in our fantastic win v Wednesday at Spotland, injured I believe.
During the latter part of that season he was used in rotation with the like of Adams, Done, JLAA and Atkinson. COG was the only regular in the front three. |
Fair enough 442 your memory seems to be better than mine, for people to say he only played under Hill as he was his favourite is rubbish though I'm afraid. | | | |
| Joe Thompson on 21:37 - Feb 8 with 2065 views | NotEyreClue |
| Joe Thompson on 19:51 - Feb 8 by SaxonDale |
Why can't I justify him being good based on his inclusion in the first 11? To suggest Hill would play him in important games that would impact Hill's future just because he liked him is ridiculous. If being a wideman was simply about beating a man and putting in a good cross then why was Milner a regular starter for England in the Euros? He's far from the best England have got when it comes to going forward. |
The comparison to Milner is a pointless one but if you really want to know why he was picked then it's pretty simple. He's been playing well for City recently and has probably been the best English wide player in the past month or so. He isn't afraid toi beat a man and his crossing his probably his best attribute (aside from his work rate obviously). He does track back of course and is a work horse but there's abolutely no comparison to him and Joe Thompson in terms of ability or in why they were both picked for an international friendly and a series of League 2 games respectively.
EDIT: I didn't realise you were talking about the Euros but most of it still stands with regards to why Milner gets picked at all. His final ball is actually very good and he can beat a man. He does track back and work hard but first and foremost he does what's asked of him in his given role.
Many thought he would be one of Hill's first signings at Barnsley because it was pretty much a fact that he was a Hill favourite. He played A LOT of games under Hill when he shouldn't have and almost seemed immune to being substitued at one point, even when he was clearly ineffective. It's a stretch to remember a dozen good games he had in a Dale shirt for me. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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| Joe Thompson on 06:39 - Feb 9 with 1933 views | frenzied |
Just never good enough for me ..languid almost lazy at times ,a league 2 nearly man at best.. | | | |
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