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All this Budget Speculation 23:28 - Oct 18 with 9950 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

The plan seems to be to raise taxes like IHT and Capital Gains and maybe on Non-Doms etc. whilst changing the rules to borrow more.
There a realistic risk here, if the tax income does not increase as planned, the very rich can work their way around these increases, and if growth is slow then the cost of borrowing increases as bond rates will go up as confidence is lost in the money markets and we will have a slow burn Liz Truss effect.

With all that is happening in the World having some gold makes a lot of sense right now.

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All this Budget Speculation on 07:01 - Nov 19 with 928 viewsDr_Winston

All this Budget Speculation on 06:35 - Nov 19 by Whiterockin

Is the budget going to be a ticking time bomb, introduced by a politician lacking economic and business knowledge. Kier is she really the best you had.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp816jrnynyo


Thus far barely, if any mention on the "Right Wing" BBC about Reeves' alleged embellishment of her CV.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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All this Budget Speculation on 08:36 - Nov 19 with 888 viewsScotia

All this Budget Speculation on 13:53 - Nov 3 by Luther27

That’s how my parents feel. They’ve worked all their life and that’s the thanks they get. Some of the posters on here should hang their heads in shame….along with the rest of this screwed up country where an illegal is getting more than someone who did their bit.


Illegals aren't getting more than someone who "did their bit"
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All this Budget Speculation on 08:56 - Nov 19 with 876 viewsonehunglow

All this Budget Speculation on 08:36 - Nov 19 by Scotia

Illegals aren't getting more than someone who "did their bit"


That’s debatable
On second thoughts ,it’s not.
They are

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All this Budget Speculation on 09:25 - Nov 19 with 849 viewsfelixstowe_jack

All this Budget Speculation on 07:01 - Nov 19 by Dr_Winston

Thus far barely, if any mention on the "Right Wing" BBC about Reeves' alleged embellishment of her CV.


BBC ring wing are you serious.

90% of BBC journalist and presenters are left wing including the great Lineker who regularly ignores BBC impartiality rules.

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All this Budget Speculation on 09:29 - Nov 19 with 844 viewsonehunglow

All this Budget Speculation on 11:37 - Oct 26 by union_jack

Why not? What happens if they are house owners and their roof needs replacing or any other major job. That money is there for security so they know they can pay for something essential if needed. In the grand scheme of things, it’s not a lot of money.


Clearly ,trying to be self sufficient doesn’t pay.
16 k savings is nothing

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All this Budget Speculation on 10:00 - Nov 19 with 833 viewsWhiterockin

All this Budget Speculation on 09:29 - Nov 19 by onehunglow

Clearly ,trying to be self sufficient doesn’t pay.
16 k savings is nothing


It's a lot of money if you don't have it and living on benefits, it's not a lot if you budget and save to try not to burden the state.
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All this Budget Speculation on 10:13 - Nov 19 with 826 viewsBoundy

All this Budget Speculation on 08:36 - Nov 19 by Scotia

Illegals aren't getting more than someone who "did their bit"


Really , how about having free private health care ( so's not to burden the NHS of course), hotel accommodation ,free bus pass ( so they can look for work) mobile phone, clothing allowance and of course a pittance of the Kings shilling.I know you're going to say that this isn't happening but we all know it is, why do you think they're coming here.

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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All this Budget Speculation on 10:26 - Nov 19 with 818 viewsWhiterockin

All this Budget Speculation on 08:36 - Nov 19 by Scotia

Illegals aren't getting more than someone who "did their bit"


Free private medical care in Manchester.
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All this Budget Speculation on 10:28 - Nov 19 with 815 viewsScotia

All this Budget Speculation on 10:26 - Nov 19 by Whiterockin

Free private medical care in Manchester.


No they're not.
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All this Budget Speculation on 10:29 - Nov 19 with 813 viewsScotia

All this Budget Speculation on 10:13 - Nov 19 by Boundy

Really , how about having free private health care ( so's not to burden the NHS of course), hotel accommodation ,free bus pass ( so they can look for work) mobile phone, clothing allowance and of course a pittance of the Kings shilling.I know you're going to say that this isn't happening but we all know it is, why do you think they're coming here.


I'm going to say they're not getting it becasue they aren't.

They're coming here to work. Illegally, but to work.
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All this Budget Speculation on 10:32 - Nov 19 with 800 viewsfelixstowe_jack

All this Budget Speculation on 10:29 - Nov 19 by Scotia

I'm going to say they're not getting it becasue they aren't.

They're coming here to work. Illegally, but to work.


Unfortunately only 25 of immigrants come here to work. The rest are family members, students .

They all get housing free healthcare and education.

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All this Budget Speculation on 10:34 - Nov 19 with 796 viewsraynor94

All this Budget Speculation on 10:29 - Nov 19 by Scotia

I'm going to say they're not getting it becasue they aren't.

They're coming here to work. Illegally, but to work.


The vast majority are quite obviously not

You give it out, you take it back it`s all part of the game
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All this Budget Speculation on 10:35 - Nov 19 with 796 viewsScotia

All this Budget Speculation on 10:32 - Nov 19 by felixstowe_jack

Unfortunately only 25 of immigrants come here to work. The rest are family members, students .

They all get housing free healthcare and education.


They're not "illegal" immigrants though. They're migrants. Like it or not we've invitied those to come to the UK.

It's not their fault we don't have the resources to accomadte them within public services. That's down to the tories and austerity.
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All this Budget Speculation on 10:37 - Nov 19 with 782 viewsWhiterockin

All this Budget Speculation on 10:28 - Nov 19 by Scotia

No they're not.


https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/moment-locals-explode-fury-migrants-free-private-heal
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All this Budget Speculation on 10:40 - Nov 19 with 762 viewsScotia

All this Budget Speculation on 10:37 - Nov 19 by Whiterockin

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/moment-locals-explode-fury-migrants-free-private-heal


Read the article.

"They're contracted with... a private doctors' system," Councillor Evans told residents.

"[That's what] my understanding is. It's not a statement of fact. That should mean they won't be putting weight on our local [health services]."

"GoToDoc - which said it had been commissioned by the NHS and would not be providing private care."

Also, not to be pedantic, but these aren't illegal immigrants.
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All this Budget Speculation on 10:44 - Nov 19 with 760 viewsraynor94

All this Budget Speculation on 10:35 - Nov 19 by Scotia

They're not "illegal" immigrants though. They're migrants. Like it or not we've invitied those to come to the UK.

It's not their fault we don't have the resources to accomadte them within public services. That's down to the tories and austerity.
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The Tories are to blame for allowing these migrants in, let's worry about accommodation for our own

You give it out, you take it back it`s all part of the game
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All this Budget Speculation on 10:50 - Nov 19 with 739 viewsScotia

All this Budget Speculation on 08:56 - Nov 19 by onehunglow

That’s debatable
On second thoughts ,it’s not.
They are


It's not debatable. It's set in law.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1999/33/section/115
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All this Budget Speculation on 10:52 - Nov 19 with 727 viewsScotia

All this Budget Speculation on 10:34 - Nov 19 by raynor94

The vast majority are quite obviously not


Obviously in what way?

I can't remember the last non-immigrant I saw working in a car wash, turkish barbers, take away, riding a delivery bike or behind the bar in the stadium.
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All this Budget Speculation on 11:30 - Nov 19 with 698 viewsraynor94

All this Budget Speculation on 10:52 - Nov 19 by Scotia

Obviously in what way?

I can't remember the last non-immigrant I saw working in a car wash, turkish barbers, take away, riding a delivery bike or behind the bar in the stadium.


You think a lot of these delivery riders are legal? I was in McDonald's Cwmdu a few months ago, and Border control were there, 3 were taken away in a short time.

I don't doubt there are some genuine workers, but do you think a lot those at the car wash are paying their tax and ni?

You give it out, you take it back it`s all part of the game
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All this Budget Speculation on 11:42 - Nov 19 with 674 viewsScotia

All this Budget Speculation on 11:30 - Nov 19 by raynor94

You think a lot of these delivery riders are legal? I was in McDonald's Cwmdu a few months ago, and Border control were there, 3 were taken away in a short time.

I don't doubt there are some genuine workers, but do you think a lot those at the car wash are paying their tax and ni?


No. That's my point.

We're attractive to illegal immmigrants because they can easily work illegally not because we give them benefits.
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All this Budget Speculation on 13:44 - Nov 23 with 461 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

All this Budget Speculation on 11:42 - Nov 19 by Scotia

No. That's my point.

We're attractive to illegal immmigrants because they can easily work illegally not because we give them benefits.


15 year gilt yields have hit 4.7 percent, we are not far off the level that happened after the Truss budget. If Reeves does not get her expected tax income and growth does not pick up we'll be in a pickle.

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All this Budget Speculation on 10:48 - Nov 25 with 376 viewsfelixstowe_jack

All this Budget Speculation on 10:35 - Nov 19 by Scotia

They're not "illegal" immigrants though. They're migrants. Like it or not we've invitied those to come to the UK.

It's not their fault we don't have the resources to accomadte them within public services. That's down to the tories and austerity.
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Our population has increased tremendously since 2001

2001 58 million
2011 63 million
2021 68 million

How on earth can and government be it labour or conservation build a city the size of London over 20 years.

Unfortunately unlimited migration, be it legal or illegal puts huge strain on our infrastructure including NHS, education and housing.

Tony Blair's open door policy to new EU countries, when he could have placed limits within EU Law was a complete disaster

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All this Budget Speculation on 11:17 - Nov 25 with 360 viewsScotia

All this Budget Speculation on 10:48 - Nov 25 by felixstowe_jack

Our population has increased tremendously since 2001

2001 58 million
2011 63 million
2021 68 million

How on earth can and government be it labour or conservation build a city the size of London over 20 years.

Unfortunately unlimited migration, be it legal or illegal puts huge strain on our infrastructure including NHS, education and housing.

Tony Blair's open door policy to new EU countries, when he could have placed limits within EU Law was a complete disaster


But most of them are needed or invited or both.

Our services are stretched without a doubt, a greater demand on them with less investment will only end one way, that's as much to do with austerity as immigration.

We shouldn't grant visas to people we can't accomadate,
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All this Budget Speculation on 16:21 - Dec 13 with 174 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Latest figures on growth need to turn around otherwise we slip towards a negative scenario fuelled by increasing borrowing costs.

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All this Budget Speculation on 17:22 - Dec 13 with 122 viewsAnotherJohn

All this Budget Speculation on 11:17 - Nov 25 by Scotia

But most of them are needed or invited or both.

Our services are stretched without a doubt, a greater demand on them with less investment will only end one way, that's as much to do with austerity as immigration.

We shouldn't grant visas to people we can't accomadate,


The problem with your argument is that the majority of immigrants do not make a net fiscal contribution due to low skills and wages. The huge influx of cheap labour has coincided with a fall in per capita productivity because companies have no incentive to seek profit through investing in new technology.. Recent years have seen high levels of public spending, high taxation levels and growing national debt. This means that public investment is constrained by tight public budgets, just as we are seeing now. In terms of the big picture. if living standards are not to fall then the national population must generate enough wealth to finance the necessary infrastructure and services. We can only finance these via borrowing for a limited period. It seems to me that we are already in a situation where living standards are falling. If immigration was the solution then we would be seeing an improvement after five years when total arrivals to the UK have exceeded the present population of Wales. To say we "need "this is to confuse gains via short-term fire-fighting with a steadily worsening long-term position that is unsustainable.
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