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Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 AFTERMATH 16:45 - Sep 12 with 14932 viewsNotLoyal

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Swansea City v Millwall
Wednesday September 15th 2021
The newly named stadium
Kick off 7.45pm


You can watch via SKY Sports 🔴 Button.

Match Officials : JOHN BUSBY

Steven Meredith and Andrew Fox

Fourth Official : Dean Whitestone


Ooooh, look what I’ve got, referee John Busby doing show and tell at work

Millwall will come bowling in to Swansea with their sights firmly set on Rossi’s chip bar renowned internationally for its chips. In recent times their bowling in to towns has caused a few headaches, on Saturday for example they had a right old do with supporters of WBA. There was lots of dancing, the odd punch and a bloke at one point had a bit of a kip on the floor.


Millwall fans come bowling in to another town yet again. Utter mayhem

The game will be played at he newly named stadium also known as the ‘ Used to be called the Liberty stadium’ in Swansea. A chap called Martin’s Organ is currently in the building and it is expected this week he will have some lovely new signs put up if he gets a few hours off. Which is nice.

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Tonight’s game at the newly named stadium kicks off at 7.45pm. Tickets for the game are still available from the stadium or online. You can watch via SKY Sports 🔴 Button. Millwall are expected to bring a small away following of around 120.

Swansea City: Ben Hamer; Ryan Bennett, Kyle Naughton, Ben Cabango; Ethan Laird, Flynn Downes, Matt Grimes (captain), Ryan Manning; Olivier Ntcham, Jamie Paterson; Joel Piroe.

Substitutes: Steven Benda, Jay Fulton, Michael Obafemi, Liam Cullen, Joel Latibeaudiere, Jake Bidwell, Liam Walsh.

Millwall: Bartosz Bialkowski, Murray Wallace, Jake Cooper (captain), Maikel Kieftenbeld, Jed Wallace, Scott Malone, George Saville, Dan Ballard, Billy Mitchell, Mason Bennett, Tom Bradshaw.

Substitutes: George Long, Alex Pearce, Ryan Leonard, Ben Thompson, Connor Mahoney, Matt Smith, Jon Dadi Bodvarsson.



Half Time stats


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Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 AFTERMATH on 08:05 - Sep 16 with 917 viewsmagicdaps10

Just watched the highlights and we should have scored 2 last night and a cracking save aside could have been 3.

Obafemi should have buried his chance, Patterson had time to take a touch and get his shot off.... Both players are suffering with match fitness and game practice, 2/4 games down the line then Obafemi puts that in the back of the net.

Calm heads and patience. Defence looks a lot better, maybe Hamer helps that over Benda. Midfield needs a clear head to see what choices fit best plus Obafemi to get up to speed and to get a run with Piroe.... Possibly with another more experienced guy coming in aswell

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Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 TEAMS on 08:06 - Sep 16 with 917 viewsKilkennyjack

Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 TEAMS on 07:48 - Sep 16 by Brynmill_Jack

You’re the one rubbishing clearly the best striker we’ve had in years not me. Obafemi and Piroe should play up front together but you seem to be advocating playing Obafemi as a lone striker.


Obafemi May have pace but Piroe has the proven finishing ability , the best movement and general all round play. Oba fluffed his big chance tonight - Piroe would have buried it if it fell to him.

You’re a bit of a div aren’t you .

Paterson had far more of an impact on the game than he has been in previous matches - the real problem for all our attacking players is Grimes getting in Downes way and slowing our play down to Cooper speed. Now kindly buzz off there’s a good little boy - isn’t there some brexit or independence thread screaming out for your “input “? Best leave the football discussions to those who understand it. Off you , er, trott.


Bryn our village idiot is back.

Piroe might be better than last night, but last night he offered nothing. Fact.

Obafemis chance did not fall to him. He and Walsh made the chance through movemenr, skill, and understanding.
As Piroe showed none of those qualitirs tonight then such a chance would never fall to him.

I am not rubbishing clearly thr best striker in the club.
I am saying he offered no threat against Millwall.
Everyone but you can see the difference the pace and energy of Obafemi made up top.

You are twp.
[Post edited 16 Sep 2021 8:07]

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Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 TEAMS on 08:08 - Sep 16 with 909 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 TEAMS on 07:45 - Sep 16 by angryjack

Piroe is quality is movement is outstanding pulsing defender in great positions..but the ball ain't getting played quick enough into the alleys ge creates...give him proper service and he score hatful


He’s already far too good for us. You see exactly what I see - a Rolls Royce of a player with an Austin maxi engine (Grimes). If Grimes was even a quarter of the player some think he is with his incisive forward (!) passes he’d be threading them through to Piroe already. But he doesn’t /can’t.
Walsh on the other hand actually DID look capable. The player Dhanda SHOULD be . (Apologies I know you’re a big fan of YD).

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Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 TEAMS on 08:10 - Sep 16 with 891 viewsangryjack

Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 TEAMS on 08:06 - Sep 16 by Kilkennyjack

Bryn our village idiot is back.

Piroe might be better than last night, but last night he offered nothing. Fact.

Obafemis chance did not fall to him. He and Walsh made the chance through movemenr, skill, and understanding.
As Piroe showed none of those qualitirs tonight then such a chance would never fall to him.

I am not rubbishing clearly thr best striker in the club.
I am saying he offered no threat against Millwall.
Everyone but you can see the difference the pace and energy of Obafemi made up top.

You are twp.
[Post edited 16 Sep 2021 8:07]


Piroe is good player..his movement is outstanding constantly making runx pulling off shoulder of defender but the ball ain't getting played into the space he makes quick enough..he then has to come back and look for another opening..if I was him I'd be frustrated
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Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 TEAMS on 08:12 - Sep 16 with 888 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 TEAMS on 08:06 - Sep 16 by Kilkennyjack

Bryn our village idiot is back.

Piroe might be better than last night, but last night he offered nothing. Fact.

Obafemis chance did not fall to him. He and Walsh made the chance through movemenr, skill, and understanding.
As Piroe showed none of those qualitirs tonight then such a chance would never fall to him.

I am not rubbishing clearly thr best striker in the club.
I am saying he offered no threat against Millwall.
Everyone but you can see the difference the pace and energy of Obafemi made up top.

You are twp.
[Post edited 16 Sep 2021 8:07]


You should go the the stadium and watch the games or at least open your eyes when you’re there. Piroe’s movement shows he’s already too good for us. He created his GOAL at Bristol City you nerd. Go back to Ireland there’s a good boy. The football over there is your level. And take Manning back with you .

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Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 TEAMS on 08:41 - Sep 16 with 842 viewsThornburyswan

Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 TEAMS on 08:12 - Sep 16 by Brynmill_Jack

You should go the the stadium and watch the games or at least open your eyes when you’re there. Piroe’s movement shows he’s already too good for us. He created his GOAL at Bristol City you nerd. Go back to Ireland there’s a good boy. The football over there is your level. And take Manning back with you .


I wouldn’t be that strong - for me he puts a shift in & will score some goals but doesn’t look like a natural goal scorer as he likes a touch & seems to aim at the centre of the goal (generally where the goalkeeper is).

Personally I’d play him off Obafemi which then allows him to pull wide & drop deeper whilst Obafemi focuses on being in & around the box.

The cameo from Walsh looked decent & if he stays fit I can see him taking Pato’s spot or at least rotating it with him.
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Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 TEAMS on 08:47 - Sep 16 with 829 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 TEAMS on 08:41 - Sep 16 by Thornburyswan

I wouldn’t be that strong - for me he puts a shift in & will score some goals but doesn’t look like a natural goal scorer as he likes a touch & seems to aim at the centre of the goal (generally where the goalkeeper is).

Personally I’d play him off Obafemi which then allows him to pull wide & drop deeper whilst Obafemi focuses on being in & around the box.

The cameo from Walsh looked decent & if he stays fit I can see him taking Pato’s spot or at least rotating it with him.


He is everything we’ve lacked in a striker since the Michu days - strong direct and his first instinct is to shoot. Give him supply and he’ll hit 20 to 30 goals no problem (obviously if he stays fit ).

Surely it makes sense to play Obafemi deeper as he can utilise his pace then - if he’s playing as the line leader he can’t ??

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Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 GAME ON ! on 08:57 - Sep 16 with 815 viewsjackrmee

Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 GAME ON ! on 22:01 - Sep 15 by AndyCole

Looks can be deceiving.

Would far rather a less PR-centric manager who isn't so focused on looks, style and no substance. The bloke needs to focus on us winning. Maybe he lacks focus. Maybe his focus is elsewhere.......

Time to get results, quick. It's what matters, always.
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But that's exactly what he's been asked to do.
RM has come out and said that this season is not about promotion. It's simply about getting the identity back and learning. Next season we can think about league position.
Results will come with practice.

There is a lot of work still to be done.
Fitness and stamina needs to improve a lot.
Players' movement and positioning in attacking moves needs work.

Defensively seems pretty good. But the tactics still need work.
People say it's not a big change from Copper, but it is.
The defensive shape is much different.
2 CBs are playing very wide and like fullbacks. Downes is so deep he is in CB position half the time, so it looks like 4 at the back.
WBs have a different job. LWB is often the highest man up the pitch and playing on the shoulder waiting or a ball over the top, RWB comes deeper for the ball. That's not working especially well at the moment, so will need some work.

I think RM wants Oba and Piroe together, but not quite sure how to do that yet.
Walsh looked decent last night.
How does he fit him in with Ntcham/Oba/Piroe. Pato will lose that place by the look of it, but we have a lot of decent plyers fit now. Not an easy job for the manager to get things right straight away.

A lot of thinking and work on the training pitch needed.
It's especially hard in this division, as RM has already stated, with 2 games a week, they don't get chance to practice what they have learned in the video room.

Time.
That is what he needs. Such a shame that so many fans are unwilling to give him that.

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Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 TEAMS on 09:43 - Sep 16 with 763 viewsjackrmee

Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 TEAMS on 22:27 - Sep 15 by jasper_T

Paterson's movement was the only thing we had going for us for most of the first half. We need another of him out there rather than dropping him, despite his lack of bite in the final third.

Manning's no wing back. Don't think this shape suits our squad at all despite all the signings. Even Laird doesn't look comfortable making runs in behind from his advanced wingback position, he always gets the ball with 3 players to beat in front of him.


When Bidwell is on, he is always on the shoulder of the defender, looking for a through ball or ball over the top.

With Laird, he always drops off the defender and looks to receive the ball deeper and take them on.

Totally different tactic being used by both WBs. Not sure if this is RM's plan, or whether it just suits the players.

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Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 GAME ON ! on 09:48 - Sep 16 with 760 viewsjackrmee

Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 GAME ON ! on 22:40 - Sep 15 by KeithHaynes

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A very fair and frank assessment.

Some people need to get a bit of perspective.

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Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 TEAMS on 09:52 - Sep 16 with 755 viewsjackrmee

Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 TEAMS on 23:17 - Sep 15 by Kilkennyjack

Says the village idiot who thought Paterson was effective tonight.
Try painting by numbers, you are sure to be better at that.

You tell me what minutes i need to rewatch Piroe as a threat on goal and i will go take another look.

You also advocated Obafemi to start earlier in thread, so no idea why you are having a temper tantrum about that. At least Obafemi was some sort of threat and should have scored when Walsh played him in.

I dont think football is for you.
You are a bit twp.


Calm down lads, they can both start together.
I'm sure that's what will be happening very soon.

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Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 GAME ON ! on 10:12 - Sep 16 with 731 viewsPatchesOHoulihan

Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 GAME ON ! on 21:55 - Sep 15 by magicdaps10

Tell you something, would drop Grimes for the next game and go Ntcham and Downes!
Grimes doesn't help with a game that needs speeding up, doesn't help at all... Not saying he is a not a good player but he doesn't have that creativity when playing possession based football, need someone with a bit of thrust in the middle and a straight shoot out for the holding role, Downes at present wins that holding role over Grimes.


agree with thia for Grimes

10 mins to go (maybe less), Hamer catches the ball from a corner - Laird, Obfemi, Piroe and anyone else have taken off looking to exploit the space behind

Hamer rushes out to distribute the ball and all I can see is Grimes telling him to slow down/calm down - fortunately Hamer ignored and I think it won us a free kick in the opposition half

Thats our captain!!!!
At the back end of a game where we haven't scored again telling our team to calm down!!!

He should be the one dragging us kicking and screaming over the line for wins. No excuse for that mentality whether its Martin or Grimes himself

This is Patches O'Houlihan saying "Take care of your balls, and they'll take care of you."

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Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 TEAMS on 10:13 - Sep 16 with 731 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 TEAMS on 09:52 - Sep 16 by jackrmee

Calm down lads, they can both start together.
I'm sure that's what will be happening very soon.


I agree. I think the other fella is suggesting we drop Piroe for Obafemi - which would be bat ah*t crazy. That’s all

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Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 GAME ON ! on 10:18 - Sep 16 with 716 viewsonehunglow

Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 GAME ON ! on 10:12 - Sep 16 by PatchesOHoulihan

agree with thia for Grimes

10 mins to go (maybe less), Hamer catches the ball from a corner - Laird, Obfemi, Piroe and anyone else have taken off looking to exploit the space behind

Hamer rushes out to distribute the ball and all I can see is Grimes telling him to slow down/calm down - fortunately Hamer ignored and I think it won us a free kick in the opposition half

Thats our captain!!!!
At the back end of a game where we haven't scored again telling our team to calm down!!!

He should be the one dragging us kicking and screaming over the line for wins. No excuse for that mentality whether its Martin or Grimes himself


Grimes ,as I say,is key to it all. The main reason we are stuck .

Now a truly awful player and one that affects the whole team performance.

Bench him and let him sulk on thevbench.

Clubs have tumbled him,hence he is still with us …and killing us at the same time.

Downes is and will be the mush start player


Has Russ the guts to drop a player,as he did with Whittaker and Piroe .

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Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 GAME ON ! on 11:33 - Sep 16 with 656 viewsDr_Winston

Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 GAME ON ! on 10:12 - Sep 16 by PatchesOHoulihan

agree with thia for Grimes

10 mins to go (maybe less), Hamer catches the ball from a corner - Laird, Obfemi, Piroe and anyone else have taken off looking to exploit the space behind

Hamer rushes out to distribute the ball and all I can see is Grimes telling him to slow down/calm down - fortunately Hamer ignored and I think it won us a free kick in the opposition half

Thats our captain!!!!
At the back end of a game where we haven't scored again telling our team to calm down!!!

He should be the one dragging us kicking and screaming over the line for wins. No excuse for that mentality whether its Martin or Grimes himself


Roy Keane would have broken him in half for that.

I don't much like Keane but he led by example. Ayew was captain in all but name for the last two seasons.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 GAME ON ! on 11:59 - Sep 16 with 625 viewsjasper_T

Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 GAME ON ! on 10:12 - Sep 16 by PatchesOHoulihan

agree with thia for Grimes

10 mins to go (maybe less), Hamer catches the ball from a corner - Laird, Obfemi, Piroe and anyone else have taken off looking to exploit the space behind

Hamer rushes out to distribute the ball and all I can see is Grimes telling him to slow down/calm down - fortunately Hamer ignored and I think it won us a free kick in the opposition half

Thats our captain!!!!
At the back end of a game where we haven't scored again telling our team to calm down!!!

He should be the one dragging us kicking and screaming over the line for wins. No excuse for that mentality whether its Martin or Grimes himself


10 minutes to go half our players were dead on their feet. Cabango was on his backside and Manning was walking. The game opened up and they looked most likely to score, similar against Hull where their chance came at the death.

The way we're playing is tiring us out more than the opposition. Too easy to sit in a block and wait.
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Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 GAME ON ! on 12:23 - Sep 16 with 602 viewsjackrmee

Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 GAME ON ! on 11:59 - Sep 16 by jasper_T

10 minutes to go half our players were dead on their feet. Cabango was on his backside and Manning was walking. The game opened up and they looked most likely to score, similar against Hull where their chance came at the death.

The way we're playing is tiring us out more than the opposition. Too easy to sit in a block and wait.


Goes along with what RM is saying re fitness.

Manning was dead on his feet. Should really have brought Bidwell on as like for like.

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Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 AFTERMATH on 12:37 - Sep 16 with 591 viewsDr_Parnassus

The fitness thing is nonsense as far as I am concerned.

Pre season started back on the 4th of July. Martin was appointed 3 and a half weeks later.

If he felt fitness was an issue and not enough done in those 3 and a half weeks, then he should have corrected it by now.

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Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 GAME ON ! on 12:53 - Sep 16 with 576 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 GAME ON ! on 12:23 - Sep 16 by jackrmee

Goes along with what RM is saying re fitness.

Manning was dead on his feet. Should really have brought Bidwell on as like for like.


Manning has not shown anything to suggest that he deserves to play in front of Bidwell. He wasn’t good at all yesterday . Swap him late on in a game when Bidwell tires fine but I wouldn’t start him ahead of him.

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Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 AFTERMATH on 12:57 - Sep 16 with 573 viewsjackrmee

Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 AFTERMATH on 12:37 - Sep 16 by Dr_Parnassus

The fitness thing is nonsense as far as I am concerned.

Pre season started back on the 4th of July. Martin was appointed 3 and a half weeks later.

If he felt fitness was an issue and not enough done in those 3 and a half weeks, then he should have corrected it by now.


Can't fix it if they don't get enough time on the training pitch.

I'm sure fitness is getting better and they are working on it, but this system needs the players, especially WBs and CMs to be even fitter than they would need to be in other systems.
It all takes time.

Bielsa has a system that needs all players to buy into it and commit to extra work to increase fitness levels.
It takes time for managers of that ilk to get their players fit and not all players will be buy into it and have the commitment to do the extra work. Some my want to, but need more time.

You seem to think that all this can be done overnight and our manager doesn't need time to implement this, simply because managers at SCFC before him, have managed to get results immediately.
This is extremely naïve and doesn't take into account the mitigating circumstances this manager and these players have come across this season.

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Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 AFTERMATH on 13:00 - Sep 16 with 566 viewsDr_Parnassus

Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 AFTERMATH on 12:57 - Sep 16 by jackrmee

Can't fix it if they don't get enough time on the training pitch.

I'm sure fitness is getting better and they are working on it, but this system needs the players, especially WBs and CMs to be even fitter than they would need to be in other systems.
It all takes time.

Bielsa has a system that needs all players to buy into it and commit to extra work to increase fitness levels.
It takes time for managers of that ilk to get their players fit and not all players will be buy into it and have the commitment to do the extra work. Some my want to, but need more time.

You seem to think that all this can be done overnight and our manager doesn't need time to implement this, simply because managers at SCFC before him, have managed to get results immediately.
This is extremely naïve and doesn't take into account the mitigating circumstances this manager and these players have come across this season.


They have as many hours on the training field as they like.

Where did I say it can be changed overnight?

I don’t believe there are any mitigating circumstances. Some challenges, sure. But there usually is when a new manager is appointed.

It’s his 10th game in charge next. There I no reason he continued to need months to get acceptable results with a squad that now resembles his own. These are players he brought in and we spent the second highest amount in our football league history to get.

Sorry, not buying all the excuses.

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Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 GAME ON ! on 13:11 - Sep 16 with 566 viewsjackrmee

Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 GAME ON ! on 12:53 - Sep 16 by Brynmill_Jack

Manning has not shown anything to suggest that he deserves to play in front of Bidwell. He wasn’t good at all yesterday . Swap him late on in a game when Bidwell tires fine but I wouldn’t start him ahead of him.


Yeah I agree. Bidwell isn't perfect for that role, but he seems do be doing well there and the best we have at the moment.
Maybe RM thought he needed a break, with another game on Saturday and thought Manning could do the job there. In fairness, he does seem to have a very good football brain and has already proved to be versatile.
I don't think he did too bad yesterday, but could have done with being hooked and Bidwell coming on in the last quarter, as he was fked. Not sure if RM had any subs left did he?

Agree though, Bidwell should be starting there for the foreseeable, or until we can get someone else in in January.

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Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 AFTERMATH on 13:14 - Sep 16 with 559 viewsjackrmee

Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 AFTERMATH on 13:00 - Sep 16 by Dr_Parnassus

They have as many hours on the training field as they like.

Where did I say it can be changed overnight?

I don’t believe there are any mitigating circumstances. Some challenges, sure. But there usually is when a new manager is appointed.

It’s his 10th game in charge next. There I no reason he continued to need months to get acceptable results with a squad that now resembles his own. These are players he brought in and we spent the second highest amount in our football league history to get.

Sorry, not buying all the excuses.


Blah blah blah. You keep saying the same sh!t. Doesn't make it any more true.

Many of us can see the mitigating circumstances, which you and a coupe of others deem "excuses".

Each to their own init.
I think that the club is moving forwards and the manager is a good choice.
You think that the club is moving backwards and the manager was not a good choice.
Time will tell.

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Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 GAME ON ! on 13:15 - Sep 16 with 556 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 GAME ON ! on 13:11 - Sep 16 by jackrmee

Yeah I agree. Bidwell isn't perfect for that role, but he seems do be doing well there and the best we have at the moment.
Maybe RM thought he needed a break, with another game on Saturday and thought Manning could do the job there. In fairness, he does seem to have a very good football brain and has already proved to be versatile.
I don't think he did too bad yesterday, but could have done with being hooked and Bidwell coming on in the last quarter, as he was fked. Not sure if RM had any subs left did he?

Agree though, Bidwell should be starting there for the foreseeable, or until we can get someone else in in January.


The fatigue factor is overlooked to be fair. The sensible move if Bidwell was tired. Seems odd though as we’ve only recently come of the international break but they’ve had no pre season so that could be a contributory factor.

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Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 AFTERMATH on 13:17 - Sep 16 with 550 viewsDr_Parnassus

Swansea City v Millwall : Matchday Thread 2020/21 AFTERMATH on 13:14 - Sep 16 by jackrmee

Blah blah blah. You keep saying the same sh!t. Doesn't make it any more true.

Many of us can see the mitigating circumstances, which you and a coupe of others deem "excuses".

Each to their own init.
I think that the club is moving forwards and the manager is a good choice.
You think that the club is moving backwards and the manager was not a good choice.
Time will tell.


As do you, of course.

However where yours is backed by hope and faith, mine is backed by documented fact and common sense.

Again, there are no mitigating circumstances that a manager can’t get decent results from a side he has spent millions upon millions upon millions on, approaching his 10th game in charge. Some want to use excuses to not face up to the fact it’s not good enough, others have a more realistic approach and are already discussing where he is tactically failing.

Where did I say the club is going backwards?

Where did I say the manager was the wrong choice?

You can’t continue to lie about people. You should stop.

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