| Is Europe turning ? 19:19 - Nov 26 with 11522 views | KeithHaynes |
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| Is Europe turning ? on 18:32 - Dec 2 with 881 views | Tummer_from_Texas |
| Is Europe turning ? on 02:57 - Nov 27 by Kilkennyjack |
Trump never finished the wall and then Trump blocked the funding needed for Biden to complete it.
Be interesting to see if a simple solution can address a complex problem.
And lets see how his great round up and deport millions of people promise works out.
Spoiler alert; it will never happen.
Trump lies. |
Trump wasn't in office. He blocked nothing.
But of cousre he didn't support Biden's terrible bill, and neither did anyone who knew its contents. No, it wasn't going to finish the wall. Instead, it was going to give amnesty to more than 10 million illegal immigrants. But even worse, it was going to codify "catch and release," which was the whole reason illegal immigration exploded immediately after the Biden Crime Family was installed via election rigging in the Oval Office.
That bill would have prevented Trump from putting Remain In Mexico back in place, and it would have screwed the USA into perpetuity. |  |
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| Is Europe turning ? on 00:43 - Dec 3 with 780 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Is Europe turning ? on 17:26 - Dec 2 by SullutaCreturned |
Maybe his time in the EU autocracy had him thinking he could force his views on people. He certainly forced some "stuff" on the UK.
So recently we've had the German coalition collapsing, the French is dissarray, the Polish standing up against the EU (amongst others) an immigration crisis across Europe, the EU share of world trade dropping.
All that and some people still think the EU is the land of milk and honey. |
Some people still think that this proven liar told the truth on Brexit.
He didn’t.
Here he is telling more fibs.
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| Is Europe turning ? on 15:18 - Dec 3 with 717 views | controversial_jack |
It turned out that the AZ vaccine was one of the least effective and got dropped by many countries in favour of others |  | | |
| Is Europe turning ? on 15:23 - Dec 3 with 712 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Is Europe turning ? on 00:43 - Dec 3 by Kilkennyjack |
Some people still think that this proven liar told the truth on Brexit.
He didn’t.
Here he is telling more fibs.
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I imagine countless millions voted for brexit in 2016 based entirely on what Boris Johnson said in 2024 about a vaccine released in 2020.
We need a people’s vote immediately. |  |
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| Is Europe turning ? on 18:08 - Dec 3 with 668 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Is Europe turning ? on 00:43 - Dec 3 by Kilkennyjack |
Some people still think that this proven liar told the truth on Brexit.
He didn’t.
Here he is telling more fibs.
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This thread isn't about Boris Johnson (whom, YES, is a proven liar but even his lies cannot time travel) and it's not about Covid nor even about Brexit really.
It is about the EU now and the state it is in, about how many countries across the continent are having trouble and are pushing back against EU rules.
But you keep prattling on about Bojo, it's what you do. | | | |
| Is Europe turning ? on 18:22 - Dec 3 with 656 views | Flashberryjack |
| Is Europe turning ? on 18:08 - Dec 3 by SullutaCreturned |
This thread isn't about Boris Johnson (whom, YES, is a proven liar but even his lies cannot time travel) and it's not about Covid nor even about Brexit really.
It is about the EU now and the state it is in, about how many countries across the continent are having trouble and are pushing back against EU rules.
But you keep prattling on about Bojo, it's what you do. |
Why do you keep answering the persistant bore. |  |
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| Is Europe turning ? on 18:53 - Dec 3 with 618 views | AnotherJohn |
| Is Europe turning ? on 15:18 - Dec 3 by controversial_jack |
It turned out that the AZ vaccine was one of the least effective and got dropped by many countries in favour of others |
Actually the AZ vaccine was crucial for the first two rounds of jabs, and saved a great many lives. The downside was a higher rate of side effects and the problem that a viral vector vaccine was harder to modify to cope with emerging variants than the mRNA vaccines.
https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-why-is-the-astrazeneca-covid-v
Regarding clinical effectiveness against early variants of the SARS-CoV-2 virus, the AZ vaccine actually held up pretty well.
https://www.bmj.com/content/373/bmj.n1088
The Chinese CoronaVac and Sinopharm vaccines raised greater doubts about long-term effectiveness that led to a recommendation for a fourth dose. Of course, the Sputnik V vaccine touted by your mate Putin as the best in the world was the most controversial of all.
https://www.dw.com/en/is-sputnik-v-vaccine-safe/a-57219314 | | | |
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| Is Europe turning ? on 21:04 - Dec 3 with 577 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Is Europe turning ? on 18:22 - Dec 3 by Flashberryjack |
Why do you keep answering the persistant bore. |
I'm equally as persistant!
Anyway, wasn't the AZ jab dropped purely because it wasn't effective against more recent strains and asit is harder to manipulate, not cost effective so it was replaced? | | | |
| Is Europe turning ? on 21:32 - Dec 3 with 560 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Is Europe turning ? on 00:43 - Dec 3 by Kilkennyjack |
Some people still think that this proven liar told the truth on Brexit.
He didn’t.
Here he is telling more fibs.
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We left the EU on the 2st February 2020.
The AZ vaccine was first used in December 2020 10 months after we left the EU. That is why the UK was far ahead of the EU in rolling out the vaccine.
If you remember the EU even threatened to withhold the pzizer vaccine ordered as the UK was not in EU until it was pointed put they would be in breach of the UK EU withdrawal agreement. [Post edited 3 Dec 21:37]
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| Is Europe turning ? on 21:35 - Dec 3 with 557 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Is Europe turning ? on 15:18 - Dec 3 by controversial_jack |
It turned out that the AZ vaccine was one of the least effective and got dropped by many countries in favour of others |
It I estimated that the AZ vaccine saved 100 million lives in its first two years.
The French vaccine did not work at all and was never released. | |
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| Is Europe turning ? on 23:27 - Dec 3 with 499 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Is Europe turning ? on 15:23 - Dec 3 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
I imagine countless millions voted for brexit in 2016 based entirely on what Boris Johnson said in 2024 about a vaccine released in 2020.
We need a people’s vote immediately. |
Boris lied in 2016 as well see, its what he does.
This is why this happened as well …
In early July 2022, 62 of the United Kingdom's 179 government ministers, parliamentary private secretaries, trade envoys, and party vice-chairmen resigned from their positions in the second administration formed by Boris Johnson as Prime Minister, culminating in Johnson's resignation on 7 July.
Apparently this bloke is now back to being a hack. | |
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| Is Europe turning ? on 23:28 - Dec 3 with 496 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Is Europe turning ? on 18:08 - Dec 3 by SullutaCreturned |
This thread isn't about Boris Johnson (whom, YES, is a proven liar but even his lies cannot time travel) and it's not about Covid nor even about Brexit really.
It is about the EU now and the state it is in, about how many countries across the continent are having trouble and are pushing back against EU rules.
But you keep prattling on about Bojo, it's what you do. |
Lots of nations want to join the EU.
There is that. | |
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| Is Europe turning ? on 00:41 - Dec 4 with 476 views | AnotherJohn |
Contro has been told more than once that the problem with AZ was that it was a viral vector vaccine and therefore harder to adapt to deal with previously unknown variants of the SARS-Cov-2 virus as it mutated, whereas this was easier with the mRNA vaccines. The NYT article just echoes what the links I already posted said. The issue of adaptability is different from the issue of clinical effectiveness against the variants of the virus that affected many countries in early 2020; at that stage AZ worked well and was affordable and more widely distributed globally than its rivals. More reading needed! | | | |
| Is Europe turning ? on 08:27 - Dec 4 with 409 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Is Europe turning ? on 23:28 - Dec 3 by Kilkennyjack |
Lots of nations want to join the EU.
There is that. |
Only the poor nations that get will hand outs from the EU. Some of those countries are in Asia not Europe. European nations like Switzerland, Norway, Iceland, Liechtenstein and Andora are in no rush to join. | |
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| Is Europe turning ? on 19:33 - Dec 4 with 336 views | union_jack |
Michel Barnier loses vote of no confidence in French parliament. Could by all accounts open the doors for Marie Le Penn and a right wing government. Yes, Europe is turning!! |  |
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| Is Europe turning ? on 19:41 - Dec 4 with 330 views | Boundy |
| Is Europe turning ? on 19:33 - Dec 4 by union_jack |
Michel Barnier loses vote of no confidence in French parliament. Could by all accounts open the doors for Marie Le Penn and a right wing government. Yes, Europe is turning!! |
But is it too late for us , with the statement today that the British Army wouldn't exist after 6 months should we go to war with a country such as Russia, not because of their capabilities but reserve number being so low. But we also have to consider the enemy imported within. | |
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| Is Europe turning ? on 19:46 - Dec 4 with 329 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Is Europe turning ? on 23:28 - Dec 3 by Kilkennyjack |
Lots of nations want to join the EU.
There is that. |
Albania: Has been negotiating since July 2022 and aims to be ready for accession by 2030
Bosnia and Herzegovina: A candidate country
Georgia: A potential candidate country
Moldova: Has been negotiating since June 2024
Montenegro: A candidate country
North Macedonia: Has been negotiating since July 2022
Serbia: Has been a candidate since 2012
Türkiye: Has been an applicant since 1987, but accession negotiations have stalled since 2016
Ukraine: Has been negotiating since June 2024
Here you go, it's 9 countries...lots? As we can see, Turkiye has been trying since 1987, Serbia 2012. These countries, look at the dates, how long would Wales wait?
Regardless and back on topic, that doesn't take away from the fact that several members are currently at odds with the EU and big things are happening across the EU, negative big things. | | | |
| Is Europe turning ? on 19:54 - Dec 4 with 312 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
If there was an in/out referendum in every EU country I would confidently bet that the huge majority of Europe would decisively vote out. To a much bigger margin that happened here.
It needs massive change. The vision of a united Europe was a noble one but whatever this is it ain’t it. | |
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| Is Europe turning ? on 19:59 - Dec 4 with 291 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Is Europe turning ? on 19:41 - Dec 4 by Boundy |
But is it too late for us , with the statement today that the British Army wouldn't exist after 6 months should we go to war with a country such as Russia, not because of their capabilities but reserve number being so low. But we also have to consider the enemy imported within. |
Can you imagine a war scenario with Starmer at the helm? It honestly doesn’t bear thinking about. I’m going to have nightmares tonight now. | |
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| Is Europe turning ? on 20:00 - Dec 4 with 290 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Is Europe turning ? on 19:54 - Dec 4 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
If there was an in/out referendum in every EU country I would confidently bet that the huge majority of Europe would decisively vote out. To a much bigger margin that happened here.
It needs massive change. The vision of a united Europe was a noble one but whatever this is it ain’t it. |
France and Germany in political flux for a few months, just as Trump takes over in the USA. |  |
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| Is Europe turning ? on 20:07 - Dec 4 with 252 views | union_jack |
| Is Europe turning ? on 19:59 - Dec 4 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Can you imagine a war scenario with Starmer at the helm? It honestly doesn’t bear thinking about. I’m going to have nightmares tonight now. |
He’d invoke some sort of equality policy where every one we kill we promise to kill one of our own. That’s only fair. | |
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| Is Europe turning ? on 20:18 - Dec 4 with 244 views | Boundy |
| Is Europe turning ? on 19:59 - Dec 4 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Can you imagine a war scenario with Starmer at the helm? It honestly doesn’t bear thinking about. I’m going to have nightmares tonight now. |
Its a national disgrace that our Armed forces have been downgraded to such an extent that it cannot defend the country, this degradation has been allowed to happen driven by policies created by successive Governments over a number of years , not helped by a society based on what they can get for themselves , a nanny state and woke culture which despises anything which doesn't fit in the way they see the world now or in the past.
Some say London has fallen myself I believe the country has . | |
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| Is Europe turning ? on 20:19 - Dec 4 with 246 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Is Europe turning ? on 19:46 - Dec 4 by SullutaCreturned |
Albania: Has been negotiating since July 2022 and aims to be ready for accession by 2030
Bosnia and Herzegovina: A candidate country
Georgia: A potential candidate country
Moldova: Has been negotiating since June 2024
Montenegro: A candidate country
North Macedonia: Has been negotiating since July 2022
Serbia: Has been a candidate since 2012
Türkiye: Has been an applicant since 1987, but accession negotiations have stalled since 2016
Ukraine: Has been negotiating since June 2024
Here you go, it's 9 countries...lots? As we can see, Turkiye has been trying since 1987, Serbia 2012. These countries, look at the dates, how long would Wales wait?
Regardless and back on topic, that doesn't take away from the fact that several members are currently at odds with the EU and big things are happening across the EU, negative big things. |
Three of those are in Asia. | |
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