| Jason Levien has left us in a stronger position than when he took over? on 19:07 - Nov 25 with 1349 views | EagleEye |
The man is deluded |  | |  |
| Jason Levien has left us in a stronger position than when he took over? on 19:59 - Nov 25 with 1288 views | QJumpingJack |
It is very insulting to the loyal fan base.
I wonder if Silverstein or Kaplan will have anything to say to WOL? |  | | |
| Jason Levien has left us in a stronger position than when he took over? on 20:00 - Nov 25 with 1272 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
It’s a bit like saying the Enola Gay left Hiroshima in a better position than when it arrived. |  |
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| Jason Levien has left us in a stronger position than when he took over? on 20:51 - Nov 25 with 1219 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
The club have changed from being a local Welsh club owned by small fry ( with respect) owners and 21% by the formerly troublesome Trust to 80% owners by serious money men and 5% by a less troublesome Trust. Perhaps he is meaning this? [Post edited 25 Nov 21:12]
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| Jason Levien has left us in a stronger position than when he took over? on 21:18 - Nov 25 with 1169 views | QJumpingJack |
| Jason Levien has left us in a stronger position than when he took over? on 20:51 - Nov 25 by ReslovenSwan1 |
The club have changed from being a local Welsh club owned by small fry ( with respect) owners and 21% by the formerly troublesome Trust to 80% owners by serious money men and 5% by a less troublesome Trust. Perhaps he is meaning this? [Post edited 25 Nov 21:12]
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if you had been at the Patti Pavillion in 2001 I expect you would show a bit more respect to the Trust. Think about the people who gave up thousands of hours volunteering to help the club when it most needed help around the Tony Petty era. | | | |
| Jason Levien has left us in a stronger position than when he took over? on 21:21 - Nov 25 with 1157 views | Whiterockin |
| Jason Levien has left us in a stronger position than when he took over? on 21:18 - Nov 25 by QJumpingJack |
if you had been at the Patti Pavillion in 2001 I expect you would show a bit more respect to the Trust. Think about the people who gave up thousands of hours volunteering to help the club when it most needed help around the Tony Petty era. |
And compare that to the recent owners who didn't give a shite. |  | | |
| Jason Levien has left us in a stronger position than when he took over? on 21:41 - Nov 25 with 1104 views | KeithHaynes |
| Jason Levien has left us in a stronger position than when he took over? on 21:18 - Nov 25 by QJumpingJack |
if you had been at the Patti Pavillion in 2001 I expect you would show a bit more respect to the Trust. Think about the people who gave up thousands of hours volunteering to help the club when it most needed help around the Tony Petty era. |
Bloody hell yeah ! |  |
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| Jason Levien has left us in a stronger position than when he took over? on 22:21 - Nov 25 with 1069 views | RhonddaSwans |
| Jason Levien has left us in a stronger position than when he took over? on 13:28 - Nov 25 by KeithHaynes |
Absolutely not, when they came to the club we were in the premier league.
Doesn’t matter what happened then with who was spending what.
Stronger position 😂 |
My reaction exactly mate.
They were not far from ripping the copper out of the East stand.
Our academy is now not churning out top talent like it was.
The days of Ben Davies , Joe Allen’s , Rodons , James , Mcburnies coming from within is gone.
I hope our academy status is looked at again as we are losing top talent to teams like Brentford. | |
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| Jason Levien has left us in a stronger position than when he took over? on 22:40 - Nov 25 with 1048 views | union_jack |
| Jason Levien has left us in a stronger position than when he took over? on 18:47 - Nov 25 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Kind words for the city? He only came here about twice! |
Not even Levien is stupid enough to say anything to the contrary is he?
I’m sure his personal thoughts don’t match his public comments. |  |
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| Jason Levien has left us in a stronger position than when he took over? on 22:49 - Nov 25 with 1036 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Jason Levien has left us in a stronger position than when he took over? on 22:21 - Nov 25 by RhonddaSwans |
My reaction exactly mate.
They were not far from ripping the copper out of the East stand.
Our academy is now not churning out top talent like it was.
The days of Ben Davies , Joe Allen’s , Rodons , James , Mcburnies coming from within is gone.
I hope our academy status is looked at again as we are losing top talent to teams like Brentford. |
Davies and Allen came from the CoE not the class 1 academy. It cost a massive £5m a year I read, and that was out of a total income of around £ 20-25m perhaps. It simple was not possible to keep.
Tne Patti pavilion was great work. I gave £5 myself for the Leon Britton appeal. Sadly the Trust became arrogant and behaving like a trade union not owners. The "old team" had aged got stale and needed to move on. Huw Jenkins warned everyone that things had to change. The Trust dug their feet in and probably became a headache for the other owners who wanted to pick the fruit of the tree they planted and cultivated.
The Trust should have understood these sentiment but did not. Their model is designed for stagnation and shrinkage unless the Americans can deliver growth.
It needs to convert to a new model with growth the objective. Jenkins and co gave them a staggering 10,000% growth but the fans call them sellouts. The sellouts were the members who asleep at the wheel when decisions needed to be made. [Post edited 25 Nov 23:10]
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| Jason Levien has left us in a stronger position than when he took over? on 00:52 - Nov 26 with 983 views | dobjack2 |
Jason Levein has left us in a stronger position than when he took over.
Jim Royal had a catchphrase that he would say after something as ridiculous as that. | | | |
| Jason Levien has left us in a stronger position than when he took over? on 07:22 - Nov 26 with 889 views | QJumpingJack |
| Jason Levien has left us in a stronger position than when he took over? on 22:49 - Nov 25 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Davies and Allen came from the CoE not the class 1 academy. It cost a massive £5m a year I read, and that was out of a total income of around £ 20-25m perhaps. It simple was not possible to keep.
Tne Patti pavilion was great work. I gave £5 myself for the Leon Britton appeal. Sadly the Trust became arrogant and behaving like a trade union not owners. The "old team" had aged got stale and needed to move on. Huw Jenkins warned everyone that things had to change. The Trust dug their feet in and probably became a headache for the other owners who wanted to pick the fruit of the tree they planted and cultivated.
The Trust should have understood these sentiment but did not. Their model is designed for stagnation and shrinkage unless the Americans can deliver growth.
It needs to convert to a new model with growth the objective. Jenkins and co gave them a staggering 10,000% growth but the fans call them sellouts. The sellouts were the members who asleep at the wheel when decisions needed to be made. [Post edited 25 Nov 23:10]
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maybe if you had been a Trust member whilst we were in the Premier League - you may have got a better understanding of what actually was going on.
Did you attend the Trust forum in 2017 when Jason and Steve attended in person? | | | |
| Jason Levien has left us in a stronger position than when he took over? on 11:37 - Nov 26 with 796 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Jason Levien has left us in a stronger position than when he took over? on 07:22 - Nov 26 by QJumpingJack |
maybe if you had been a Trust member whilst we were in the Premier League - you may have got a better understanding of what actually was going on.
Did you attend the Trust forum in 2017 when Jason and Steve attended in person? |
My understanding is sound. I understand selling anything is difficult and at the very least needs a willing seller and a willing buyer. There was no willing seller.
It is incredible they could not a cut a deal rapidly in four months s of talks at £1m per 1%. If I was a member I would be hoping mad and not at the buyer. The Trust members are weak. [Post edited 26 Nov 11:54]
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| Jason Levien has left us in a stronger position than when he took over? on 12:00 - Nov 26 with 778 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Jason Levien has left us in a stronger position than when he took over? on 17:35 - Nov 25 by 3swan |
I was a member of the Trust back then, I'm certain enough with my memory that the Trust did contact the sellers stating they would consider selling if the terms were amenable.
Of course the buyers would only want to pay a figure for the club, if having to buy the Trust shares as well could have resulted in a lower £ per share |
So did they want to sell or not. A Yes or No.
They stated " they would consider selling"..
If I came to your house to look at your car and you told me that I would say "do not waste your time with this lot". [Post edited 26 Nov 12:05]
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| Jason Levien has left us in a stronger position than when he took over? on 16:49 - Nov 26 with 708 views | max936 |
| Jason Levien has left us in a stronger position than when he took over? on 07:22 - Nov 26 by QJumpingJack |
maybe if you had been a Trust member whilst we were in the Premier League - you may have got a better understanding of what actually was going on.
Did you attend the Trust forum in 2017 when Jason and Steve attended in person? |
You're wasting your time matey, bout time people stopped replying to his loathsome trust rants, we all know the truth, so this loathsome individuals attention seeking nonsense matters not a jot, he's a nobody who keeps dribbling on over and over because he knows he'll get bites. |  |
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| Jason Levien has left us in a stronger position than when he took over? on 17:25 - Nov 26 with 680 views | 3swan |
| Jason Levien has left us in a stronger position than when he took over? on 16:49 - Nov 26 by max936 |
You're wasting your time matey, bout time people stopped replying to his loathsome trust rants, we all know the truth, so this loathsome individuals attention seeking nonsense matters not a jot, he's a nobody who keeps dribbling on over and over because he knows he'll get bites. |
Phil Sumbler posted this on his site on November 7th
Just for the avoidance of any doubt
When the club was sold to Kaplan and Levien
The Trust wrote to all previous shareholders, less than 48 hours after finding out about the deal and suggested that if the deal was right for the club then an offer for our shareholding would be considered by the members
I know that as fact. I have a copy of the letter. My signature is on the bottom of it as is my name.
Just saying as it kills the story that the Trust said they would never sell that is peddled around. | | | |
| Jason Levien has left us in a stronger position than when he took over? on 17:36 - Nov 26 with 666 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Jason Levien has left us in a stronger position than when he took over? on 16:49 - Nov 26 by max936 |
You're wasting your time matey, bout time people stopped replying to his loathsome trust rants, we all know the truth, so this loathsome individuals attention seeking nonsense matters not a jot, he's a nobody who keeps dribbling on over and over because he knows he'll get bites. |
All the other owners made millions. The Trust made nothing. Why? Because the members had no personal benefit and the other owners did. The committee system failed to function.
It failed to function due to an absence of strong individuals with a concern for their communal welfare.
Look at the various bank balances. The Trust should have at least £10m in the bank. They failed. Excuse the ave been shown to be worth nothing as seen with the Trust climb down in 2023 which was inevitable.
Business is a tough place and cash is king. 21% ownership is heading to 5% fast. Only a fool would say they played a good hand.. | |
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| Jason Levien has left us in a stronger position than when he took over? on 17:49 - Nov 26 with 647 views | max936 |
| Jason Levien has left us in a stronger position than when he took over? on 17:25 - Nov 26 by 3swan |
Phil Sumbler posted this on his site on November 7th
Just for the avoidance of any doubt
When the club was sold to Kaplan and Levien
The Trust wrote to all previous shareholders, less than 48 hours after finding out about the deal and suggested that if the deal was right for the club then an offer for our shareholding would be considered by the members
I know that as fact. I have a copy of the letter. My signature is on the bottom of it as is my name.
Just saying as it kills the story that the Trust said they would never sell that is peddled around. |
We all know Swanny some accept the truth, its just not worth repeating because its an excuse for yet more attention seeking. | |
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| Jason Levien has left us in a stronger position than when he took over? on 17:53 - Nov 26 with 642 views | 3swan |
| Jason Levien has left us in a stronger position than when he took over? on 17:49 - Nov 26 by max936 |
We all know Swanny some accept the truth, its just not worth repeating because its an excuse for yet more attention seeking. |
I've known Keith and Phil for many years and when they post under their names I give it credence. | | | |
| Jason Levien has left us in a stronger position than when he took over? on 18:06 - Nov 26 with 614 views | Whiterockin |
| Jason Levien has left us in a stronger position than when he took over? on 17:25 - Nov 26 by 3swan |
Phil Sumbler posted this on his site on November 7th
Just for the avoidance of any doubt
When the club was sold to Kaplan and Levien
The Trust wrote to all previous shareholders, less than 48 hours after finding out about the deal and suggested that if the deal was right for the club then an offer for our shareholding would be considered by the members
I know that as fact. I have a copy of the letter. My signature is on the bottom of it as is my name.
Just saying as it kills the story that the Trust said they would never sell that is peddled around. |
Have you noticed when facts are posted Res completely ignores the post. | | | |
| Jason Levien has left us in a stronger position than when he took over? on 18:28 - Nov 26 with 589 views | max936 |
| Jason Levien has left us in a stronger position than when he took over? on 17:53 - Nov 26 by 3swan |
I've known Keith and Phil for many years and when they post under their names I give it credence. |
Exactly Clive. I 100% agree, I've known Phil for years through the forums, I've never met the man, but I've the utmost respect for him, Keith only a short time since he started this form and I've the same respect and confidence in him also. | |
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| Jason Levien has left us in a stronger position than when he took over? on 19:39 - Nov 26 with 538 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Jason Levien has left us in a stronger position than when he took over? on 18:06 - Nov 26 by Whiterockin |
Have you noticed when facts are posted Res completely ignores the post. |
How many shares have the Trust sold over the last 22 years.? The answer is nil. That FACT speaks for itself. | |
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| Jason Levien has left us in a stronger position than when he took over? on 19:43 - Nov 26 with 530 views | KeithHaynes |
| Jason Levien has left us in a stronger position than when he took over? on 19:39 - Nov 26 by ReslovenSwan1 |
How many shares have the Trust sold over the last 22 years.? The answer is nil. That FACT speaks for itself. |
Some would say they were done up like a kipper ? | |
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| Jason Levien has left us in a stronger position than when he took over? on 20:12 - Nov 26 with 472 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Jason Levien has left us in a stronger position than when he took over? on 19:43 - Nov 26 by KeithHaynes |
Some would say they were done up like a kipper ? |
If that was the case there were legal measures that could have taken there and then which lawyers can explain. Sadly for them they did not even know the views of the members at that time.
K&L appear to have the Trust locked in on the recent change of ownership. | |
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| Jason Levien has left us in a stronger position than when he took over? on 20:29 - Nov 26 with 457 views | QJumpingJack |
| Jason Levien has left us in a stronger position than when he took over? on 20:12 - Nov 26 by ReslovenSwan1 |
If that was the case there were legal measures that could have taken there and then which lawyers can explain. Sadly for them they did not even know the views of the members at that time.
K&L appear to have the Trust locked in on the recent change of ownership. |
why does every thread move back to the Trust (or Gyokeres and Cooper in 2021).
Perhaps start one thread on your anti-Trust views so they can be kept in one place. | | | |
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