| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 21:52 - Dec 12 with 1849 views | nantywatcher |
| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 21:49 - Dec 12 by Whiterockin |
I thought that Dalling, Key and Tymon played OK, the rest were crap. |
Key?? He was truly awful looked like a 12 year old who'd wandered on to an adult's game by mistake. (Totally unfit should never have started,) |  | |  |
| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 21:55 - Dec 12 with 1818 views | onehunglow |
| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 21:52 - Dec 12 by nantywatcher |
Key?? He was truly awful looked like a 12 year old who'd wandered on to an adult's game by mistake. (Totally unfit should never have started,) |
Shocked me.
He looked very uneasy
Not sure wtf is going on . | |
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| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 21:58 - Dec 12 with 1784 views | Luther27 |
| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 21:55 - Dec 12 by onehunglow |
Shocked me.
He looked very uneasy
Not sure wtf is going on . |
I think it was past his bedtime. | | | |
| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 22:02 - Dec 12 with 1742 views | onehunglow |
| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 21:58 - Dec 12 by Luther27 |
I think it was past his bedtime. |
He’s been quite acceptable this season so far.
Tonight,was worrying to see him like that .
I ll say this now.
My suggestion is to bring Warnink here on a six month contract because he would simply keep us up.
We cannot hope for anything else with this group of players .
We can’t build for the future with them .
It’s about survival. That simple .
We need a new captain for a start . | |
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| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 22:05 - Dec 12 with 1708 views | Boundy |
With a very poor link tonight and reading the comments it looks like I didn't miss much, surprised at the comments regarding Key who I thought was one of our better signings , another point won rather than 3 dropped so I suppose that's some solace . | |
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| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 22:13 - Dec 12 with 1650 views | union_jack |
I’m being serious when I say that following that game tonight we can forget Davies as our manager. If he was interested he would have been watching and thought the task too big fir him.
However, I did have a thought that the reason we reverted to the silly little Martinesque interplay was to show him and any other fool interested that there is something work with. It failed if course. |  |
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| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 22:20 - Dec 12 with 1596 views | onehunglow |
| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 22:13 - Dec 12 by union_jack |
I’m being serious when I say that following that game tonight we can forget Davies as our manager. If he was interested he would have been watching and thought the task too big fir him.
However, I did have a thought that the reason we reverted to the silly little Martinesque interplay was to show him and any other fool interested that there is something work with. It failed if course. |
Tend to agree.
I cannot understand the way we try to play pretty footy when we haven’t the players .
This season is all about survival.
Those complaining about mid table mediocrity !
We should be so lucky.
Too good to go down?
Hardly.
Get a tough,no nonsense old timer in on a short term cintract and see where we are come May .
Clearly,the players brought in are not fit for ( our) purpose . | |
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| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 23:09 - Dec 12 with 1412 views | Fireboy2 |
Didn't watch tonight for reasons I've postex before, tbe useless running of the club.
I suspect that key was poor tonight as he ran his blood to water on Saturday, playing a full match after an injury.
It's good to see that certain posters know their teams players and their goings on
Its good to be back after a self imposed hiatus, good to know that everyone was worrying about me. |  | | |
| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 07:24 - Dec 13 with 1157 views | fbreath |
That certainly was next level just like we were assured. |  |
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| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 07:45 - Dec 13 with 1141 views | jack247 |
A decent manager will get a tune out of these players. They are playing well below their capacity. They look demotivated and while it’s hard to justify that, I’m pretty sure a coherent plan that suits our players would sort it out.
Despite the four points, we’ve looked exactly like a team in limbo the last two games. Just going through the motions, using very similar tactics to Duff, waiting for someone to come in and change it. | | | |
| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 08:25 - Dec 13 with 1114 views | RichardO |
Didn't see or hear last night's game but here are the things that stand out from the comments and what has happened since the Leicester game and with reference to the earlier games poor play.
The midfield is losing the battle to gain possession higher up the park previously before the Leicester game we had started to get further up park with quicker balls through Patino's movement which bought Paterson into the game more.
So what did we do against Leicester to counter their threat we dropped back ceding possession and we looked shapeless giving time and space all over the park and basically that is how we have remained since.
The inclusion on Fulton alongside Grimes at one time would have seemed like a sensible thing to do defensively given Fulton's previous energy and drive but now in many respects is a carbon copy of Grimes dropping too deep now looking as if they are marking the same people the centre halves are supposed to be confusing the hell out of them, leaving the middle of the park empty with player further up the park receiving the ball with limited options and similarly our fullbacks as they are asked to push forward into blind alleys
We complained about Latibeaudie last year, as he has limitations, I will hold my hand up but we went to a four at the back and things improved so much that Lati had a job and knew how to do it but we had more players in the middle of the park with nobody dropping so deep so often as Grimes and Fulton in the middle are doing now making promising young fullbacks look poor, giving them no options, Ashby was singled out recently ended having to do too much and the dreaded hamstring occurred, seems that Key is now suffering, especially coming back after injury, getting stick similar to the likes of Laird, Christie and Wolf The likes of Cooper, Paterson, Patino and Walsh were not getting the midfield support they need either.
We complained last year about playing 5 at the back last year, if you add both Grimes and Fulton now you have 6.
We have praised the likes of Allen, Britton and Rangel in the pasted because they were always looking to pass and then find empty places in the pitch were they moved to progress the ball quickly up the park even moving the ball across the pitch was done quicker, the lack of movement in the middle is stifling our game both attacking and defensively | | | |
| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 12:01 - Dec 13 with 921 views | Azzuriswan |
Was at the game last night and yet again we had the sideways backwards slow slow stop passing syndrome through Captain Marvel...we do have enough pace to worry the opposition but have got a mindset of trying to keep possession playing pretty football and getting nowhere fast.
Darlings header from the corner was the first good header from a Swansea corner since when? Most headers fly over or past the posts.
Perhaps the players are saying publicly that they are behind Sheehan but off the record they couldnt care less. | | | |
| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 12:35 - Dec 13 with 878 views | blaenaugwentjack |
| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 22:02 - Dec 12 by onehunglow |
He’s been quite acceptable this season so far.
Tonight,was worrying to see him like that .
I ll say this now.
My suggestion is to bring Warnink here on a six month contract because he would simply keep us up.
We cannot hope for anything else with this group of players .
We can’t build for the future with them .
It’s about survival. That simple .
We need a new captain for a start . |
You want Warnock?    | | | |
| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 13:59 - Dec 13 with 803 views | onehunglow |
| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 12:35 - Dec 13 by blaenaugwentjack |
You want Warnock? |
“Want”?
Can think of worse given our current predicament.
Do you think he would not be able to make an immediate improvement ?
You don’t think Warnock has had a successful and long career in the game then  | |
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| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 14:01 - Dec 13 with 793 views | union_jack |
| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 13:59 - Dec 13 by onehunglow |
“Want”?
Can think of worse given our current predicament.
Do you think he would not be able to make an immediate improvement ?
You don’t think Warnock has had a successful and long career in the game then |
In all honesty R I don’t think he’d get a tune out of our lot. Completely the wrong fit. | |
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| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 14:05 - Dec 13 with 784 views | onehunglow |
| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 14:01 - Dec 13 by union_jack |
In all honesty R I don’t think he’d get a tune out of our lot. Completely the wrong fit. |
Good riposte.
It’s about opinions.
I was suggesting him as a short term fit as we simply need to survive.
I believe he would keep us up.
People don’t “ like” him as he managed Cardiff and slapped his head | |
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| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 14:13 - Dec 13 with 780 views | sw02sea |
I’m starting to think Duff probably was hard done by in the end.
He tried his best to shake the MARTINBALL malaise out of the players.
But they we’re having none of it, let’s carry on with our sideways, me to you, walking football and see what happens.
Well good luck to ever takes over, trying to get some of these players to actually run.
Time to shake them up, and give some of the youngsters game time.
Our football is so,so predictable and slow, something HAS to change | | | |
| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 14:27 - Dec 13 with 767 views | onehunglow |
| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 14:13 - Dec 13 by sw02sea |
I’m starting to think Duff probably was hard done by in the end.
He tried his best to shake the MARTINBALL malaise out of the players.
But they we’re having none of it, let’s carry on with our sideways, me to you, walking football and see what happens.
Well good luck to ever takes over, trying to get some of these players to actually run.
Time to shake them up, and give some of the youngsters game time.
Our football is so,so predictable and slow, something HAS to change |
Tend to agree,though his grim persona didn’t endear him to fans at large .
I’m on record saying the previous coach ruined us as opposed to improving us and stand by every word .
Our default is sideways and backwards .
Last night, we saw in shocking detail how captain Grimes actually stops ,steps on the ball and rolls it backwards then pass sideways or direct to opposition. He has always done this .
He has talent but has been badly coached IMO.
We have a habit of ruining talent that we have | |
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| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 15:51 - Dec 13 with 731 views | KeithHaynes |
| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 14:27 - Dec 13 by onehunglow |
Tend to agree,though his grim persona didn’t endear him to fans at large .
I’m on record saying the previous coach ruined us as opposed to improving us and stand by every word .
Our default is sideways and backwards .
Last night, we saw in shocking detail how captain Grimes actually stops ,steps on the ball and rolls it backwards then pass sideways or direct to opposition. He has always done this .
He has talent but has been badly coached IMO.
We have a habit of ruining talent that we have |
Previous coach had the squad playing at its optimum. Proven.
Another season with support and he would have pushed us on.
If you think you can blame him for this mess you won’t be taken seriously. |  |
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| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 16:40 - Dec 13 with 696 views | onehunglow |
| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 15:51 - Dec 13 by KeithHaynes |
Previous coach had the squad playing at its optimum. Proven.
Another season with support and he would have pushed us on.
If you think you can blame him for this mess you won’t be taken seriously. |
Not proven at all
You don’t know
Don’t give a monkeys
Peace | |
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| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 17:37 - Dec 13 with 658 views | jack247 |
| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 14:13 - Dec 13 by sw02sea |
I’m starting to think Duff probably was hard done by in the end.
He tried his best to shake the MARTINBALL malaise out of the players.
But they we’re having none of it, let’s carry on with our sideways, me to you, walking football and see what happens.
Well good luck to ever takes over, trying to get some of these players to actually run.
Time to shake them up, and give some of the youngsters game time.
Our football is so,so predictable and slow, something HAS to change |
I think the Martinball thing is overdone. I can completely accept it if we’re talking about Grimes and Fulton in isolation.
We brought in 12? New players this summer. Of the eleven that started at Stoke, six weren’t here last season, how did Russell Martin influence them? | | | |
| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 17:45 - Dec 13 with 652 views | onehunglow |
| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 17:37 - Dec 13 by jack247 |
I think the Martinball thing is overdone. I can completely accept it if we’re talking about Grimes and Fulton in isolation.
We brought in 12? New players this summer. Of the eleven that started at Stoke, six weren’t here last season, how did Russell Martin influence them? |
247.
I’m not sure myself but there seems to be an aura around that sees us this way
I fully confess to not being a paid up member of Russyclub.
Even now,,any criticism can lead to unpleasant discourse
I’ve seen puppy killers get less stick. | |
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| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 17:47 - Dec 13 with 650 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Stoke City v Swansea City : Match day thread on 22:02 - Dec 12 by onehunglow |
He’s been quite acceptable this season so far.
Tonight,was worrying to see him like that .
I ll say this now.
My suggestion is to bring Warnink here on a six month contract because he would simply keep us up.
We cannot hope for anything else with this group of players .
We can’t build for the future with them .
It’s about survival. That simple .
We need a new captain for a start . |
No to Colin. |  |
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