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So it's now evident that public health officials lied to us all along 11:41 - Mar 1 with 10636 viewsmangohilljack

And any opposing argument or suggestions that went against the narrative were censored.

Some have been demonised and cancelled for speaking a truth, when the majority were taken in hook line and sinker.

MSM not able to hold the truth in any longer. I'm sure there is much more to come hence the leaders of the time resigning in their droves.

Surely an investigation to get to the bottom of it is a must now and we can put it all to bed once and for all.

read it for yourself here
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/10-myths-told-by-covid-
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So it's now evident that public health officials lied to us all along on 10:16 - Mar 4 with 1555 viewscontroversial_jack

So it's now evident that public health officials lied to us all along on 01:14 - Mar 4 by DJack

More rubbish from you...

Under the so called ban over 400000 travellers arrived from China into the US.


It was rampant in Europe at the time. China has a population of 1.5 million, so the chances of a person in China carrying it is much less than someone from Spain with a lower population to covid ratio
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So it's now evident that public health officials lied to us all along on 13:00 - Mar 4 with 1517 viewsGwyn737

So it's now evident that public health officials lied to us all along on 10:16 - Mar 4 by controversial_jack

It was rampant in Europe at the time. China has a population of 1.5 million, so the chances of a person in China carrying it is much less than someone from Spain with a lower population to covid ratio


That doesn’t make sense.

China is a massive county. Infection spreads initially in pockets.

Using population ratio doesn’t stack up.
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So it's now evident that public health officials lied to us all along on 13:26 - Mar 4 with 1510 viewsSullutaCreturned

So it's now evident that public health officials lied to us all along on 09:53 - Mar 4 by Gwyn737

Come now Scotia, Mangojack had it an he was fine so it must all be rubbish.


I must remember to tell our friend, Julie, that she'll be fine because it's all rubbish.

Oh, wait, I can't tell her because it killed her in 2020. She was an NHS medical specialist too. If only she'd known it was all rubbish I'm sure she'd have been fine.

I do have a question, how can anyone know for a fact the "flu" they have had is the same as the covid virus? They don't tell you what strain you had, it's just a positive or negative test isn't it?
In which case I call BS though I wait to be proved wrong...
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So it's now evident that public health officials lied to us all along on 16:34 - Mar 4 with 1485 viewscontroversial_jack

So it's now evident that public health officials lied to us all along on 13:26 - Mar 4 by SullutaCreturned

I must remember to tell our friend, Julie, that she'll be fine because it's all rubbish.

Oh, wait, I can't tell her because it killed her in 2020. She was an NHS medical specialist too. If only she'd known it was all rubbish I'm sure she'd have been fine.

I do have a question, how can anyone know for a fact the "flu" they have had is the same as the covid virus? They don't tell you what strain you had, it's just a positive or negative test isn't it?
In which case I call BS though I wait to be proved wrong...


Covid and flu are completely different virus
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So it's now evident that public health officials lied to us all along on 17:19 - Mar 4 with 1471 viewsDJack

So it's now evident that public health officials lied to us all along on 10:16 - Mar 4 by controversial_jack

It was rampant in Europe at the time. China has a population of 1.5 million, so the chances of a person in China carrying it is much less than someone from Spain with a lower population to covid ratio


...and again, more arrant nonsense from you.

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So it's now evident that public health officials lied to us all along on 17:31 - Mar 4 with 1469 viewsScotia

So it's now evident that public health officials lied to us all along on 13:26 - Mar 4 by SullutaCreturned

I must remember to tell our friend, Julie, that she'll be fine because it's all rubbish.

Oh, wait, I can't tell her because it killed her in 2020. She was an NHS medical specialist too. If only she'd known it was all rubbish I'm sure she'd have been fine.

I do have a question, how can anyone know for a fact the "flu" they have had is the same as the covid virus? They don't tell you what strain you had, it's just a positive or negative test isn't it?
In which case I call BS though I wait to be proved wrong...


That's the thing they don't know it was covid and everything else points to it not being covid.

My Dad has just come home from a week long stay in Morriston with pneumonia, he tested for covid at home and was tested daily in hospital and was negative each time. He didn't have covid but had all the same symptoms.

There are countless similar viruses around but covid is by far the most serious if you don't have some immunity.
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So it's now evident that public health officials lied to us all along on 17:50 - Mar 4 with 1462 viewsmax936

So it's now evident that public health officials lied to us all along on 17:19 - Mar 4 by DJack

...and again, more arrant nonsense from you.


Don't know why anyone responds to him, he's not alone though, they walk in a pub and it would empty., that's assuming they leave their bedsits of course.

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So it's now evident that public health officials lied to us all along on 18:35 - Mar 4 with 1436 viewsSullutaCreturned

So it's now evident that public health officials lied to us all along on 17:31 - Mar 4 by Scotia

That's the thing they don't know it was covid and everything else points to it not being covid.

My Dad has just come home from a week long stay in Morriston with pneumonia, he tested for covid at home and was tested daily in hospital and was negative each time. He didn't have covid but had all the same symptoms.

There are countless similar viruses around but covid is by far the most serious if you don't have some immunity.


That was kinda the point, Scotia. There are lots of viruses that have crossover symptoms with covid. Somebody claiming they had covid and it was the exact same virus as the flu they had "fact" when there was no test to prove that, is nonsense.

If you pulled up a symptom checker and put the covid symptoms in you would get a long list of potential illnesses including flu.

it seems that if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it may not be a duck after all.
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So it's now evident that public health officials lied to us all along on 22:16 - Mar 6 with 1365 viewscontroversial_jack

So it's now evident that public health officials lied to us all along on 18:35 - Mar 4 by SullutaCreturned

That was kinda the point, Scotia. There are lots of viruses that have crossover symptoms with covid. Somebody claiming they had covid and it was the exact same virus as the flu they had "fact" when there was no test to prove that, is nonsense.

If you pulled up a symptom checker and put the covid symptoms in you would get a long list of potential illnesses including flu.

it seems that if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it may not be a duck after all.


What makes you think it was the flu and not covid? I have had flu before, and this wasn't the flu
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So it's now evident that public health officials lied to us all along on 22:28 - Mar 6 with 1359 viewsSullutaCreturned

So it's now evident that public health officials lied to us all along on 22:16 - Mar 6 by controversial_jack

What makes you think it was the flu and not covid? I have had flu before, and this wasn't the flu


Yeah,

COVID-19 and the flu have many symptoms in common, including:

Fever
Cough
Shortness of breath or difficulty breathing
Tiredness
Sore throat
Runny or stuffy nose
Muscle aches
Headache
Nausea or vomiting, but this is more common in children than in adults
The signs and symptoms of both diseases can range from no symptoms to mild or severe symptoms. Because COVID-19 and the flu have similar symptoms, it can be hard to diagnose which condition you have based on your symptoms alone. Testing may be done to see if you have COVID-19 or the flu. You also can have both diseases at the same time.

So if you definitely didn't have flu, you cannot be sure it was covid unless you had a positive test result which you didn't, did you?

Therefore it is only your biased opinion, it's what you want to believe because it suits your argument.

PS, if you can please show me any proof of China denying covid started there please do. You can't of course.
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So it's now evident that public health officials lied to us all along on 22:35 - Mar 6 with 1357 viewsSullutaCreturned

So it's now evident that public health officials lied to us all along on 10:16 - Mar 4 by controversial_jack

It was rampant in Europe at the time. China has a population of 1.5 million, so the chances of a person in China carrying it is much less than someone from Spain with a lower population to covid ratio


Did you have the big book of nonsense for Christmas?

China has a popuation of well over 1 BILLION and many, many millions live in cramped conditions, in close quarters where a highly transmissible disease will flourish very quickly. Specially when that disease started there.

Covid was rampant in China before they even bothered telling the rest of the world about their little problem.
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So it's now evident that public health officials lied to us all along on 22:49 - Mar 6 with 1352 viewsBoundy

So it's now evident that public health officials lied to us all along on 13:26 - Mar 4 by SullutaCreturned

I must remember to tell our friend, Julie, that she'll be fine because it's all rubbish.

Oh, wait, I can't tell her because it killed her in 2020. She was an NHS medical specialist too. If only she'd known it was all rubbish I'm sure she'd have been fine.

I do have a question, how can anyone know for a fact the "flu" they have had is the same as the covid virus? They don't tell you what strain you had, it's just a positive or negative test isn't it?
In which case I call BS though I wait to be proved wrong...


Pity he didn't watch my previously healthy dear mum in law die from it or have to watch my wife suffer the grief & guilt which followed ,nor be one of the 8 of us who were graciously allowed to attend her funeral service .Mangojack wants to head back to the mango swamp from whence he came from

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So it's now evident that public health officials lied to us all along on 06:31 - Mar 7 with 1334 viewsbuilthjack

So it's now evident that public health officials lied to us all along on 17:50 - Mar 4 by max936

Don't know why anyone responds to him, he's not alone though, they walk in a pub and it would empty., that's assuming they leave their bedsits of course.


Quite a few on here in bedsits Max. A lonely life though.
This forum is their home.

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So it's now evident that public health officials lied to us all along on 07:47 - Mar 7 with 1323 viewscontroversial_jack

So it's now evident that public health officials lied to us all along on 22:35 - Mar 6 by SullutaCreturned

Did you have the big book of nonsense for Christmas?

China has a popuation of well over 1 BILLION and many, many millions live in cramped conditions, in close quarters where a highly transmissible disease will flourish very quickly. Specially when that disease started there.

Covid was rampant in China before they even bothered telling the rest of the world about their little problem.


No it wasn't. It was in the Hubei province, for about a month before they told the Chinese govt, who then told the world. Once again you are wrong
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So it's now evident that public health officials lied to us all along on 21:43 - Mar 7 with 1283 viewsTummer_from_Texas

So it's now evident that public health officials lied to us all along on 09:37 - Mar 4 by Scotia

Being in a different time zone is no excuse for starting a thread that you have no argument to substantiate. This anti covid / lockdown / vaccine is getting absurd now.

Absolutely none of it stands up to any form of scrutiny.

Just look at the leaked Hancock messages, nothing of substance to deny the situation. They're little more than backstabbing.

You'd expect a golden thread to the argument but there just seems to be random unsubstantiated accusations that amount to nothing. It's still allowed to be posted on here for some reason?

I'm glad you're experience of covid was mild, both of mine were too. In fact I'd barely have known I was ill, I could have run a marathon. Well done Pfizer.

However millions of people weren't so lucky. Perhaps you'd like to explain your experience to Gerallt's family.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-52360360.amp

I'm pretty certain they'd disagree.


"Well done Pfizer."

Ah yes, the same Pfizer who is working to develop its own virus mutations to keep the cash cow going.



Well done creating a shot that doesn't save you from getting COVID, doesn't save you from spreading COVID, and one with zero real evidence that it does a damn thing to help you when you do get it. Plenty of evidence, however, that it greatly increases the risk of young, healthy people of getting deadly cardiomyopathy, as well as infertility in young women.

You are what Stalin would call a Useful Idiot.
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So it's now evident that public health officials lied to us all along on 22:06 - Mar 7 with 1273 viewsGwyn737

So it's now evident that public health officials lied to us all along on 21:43 - Mar 7 by Tummer_from_Texas

"Well done Pfizer."

Ah yes, the same Pfizer who is working to develop its own virus mutations to keep the cash cow going.



Well done creating a shot that doesn't save you from getting COVID, doesn't save you from spreading COVID, and one with zero real evidence that it does a damn thing to help you when you do get it. Plenty of evidence, however, that it greatly increases the risk of young, healthy people of getting deadly cardiomyopathy, as well as infertility in young women.

You are what Stalin would call a Useful Idiot.
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Of course you can prove that Jordan Trishton Walker is director of research and development at Pfizer can’t you?

You know, Pfizer documents, professional history, linked in profile, social media presence. Anything with a photo that IDs him really.

You wouldn’t just automatically believed Project Verona’s would you?

You’re what Stalin would have called ‘a complete numpty’.
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So it's now evident that public health officials lied to us all along on 22:24 - Mar 7 with 1268 viewsTummer_from_Texas

So it's now evident that public health officials lied to us all along on 22:06 - Mar 7 by Gwyn737

Of course you can prove that Jordan Trishton Walker is director of research and development at Pfizer can’t you?

You know, Pfizer documents, professional history, linked in profile, social media presence. Anything with a photo that IDs him really.

You wouldn’t just automatically believed Project Verona’s would you?

You’re what Stalin would have called ‘a complete numpty’.


If he isn't, then why didn't Pfizer just say so, as opposed to their non-denial denial press release? They could have ended it right there.

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So it's now evident that public health officials lied to us all along on 22:29 - Mar 7 with 1264 viewsTummer_from_Texas

So it's now evident that public health officials lied to us all along on 22:24 - Mar 7 by Tummer_from_Texas

If he isn't, then why didn't Pfizer just say so, as opposed to their non-denial denial press release? They could have ended it right there.

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Furthermore, why would Pfizer warn its employees to not have loose lips like Jordon?


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So it's now evident that public health officials lied to us all along on 22:33 - Mar 7 with 1256 viewsBoundy

So it's now evident that public health officials lied to us all along on 21:53 - Mar 3 by SullutaCreturned

He's back where women glow and men plunder. I don't think he speaks our language but maybe he has a vegemite sandwich!

Or some similar nonsense!


I doubt he does , work or is indeed a man

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So it's now evident that public health officials lied to us all along on 07:54 - Mar 8 with 1217 viewsScotia

So it's now evident that public health officials lied to us all along on 22:29 - Mar 7 by Tummer_from_Texas

Furthermore, why would Pfizer warn its employees to not have loose lips like Jordon?



I doubt there's a company in the world without a policy similar to that.

Jordon Trishton Walker is not the Pfizer director of reserach (or whatevver it is claimed he is). Anyone who believes that on the strength of Tucker Carlson and his relay of a social media sting interview is genuinely a gullible fool.
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So it's now evident that public health officials lied to us all along on 14:26 - Mar 8 with 1160 viewsTummer_from_Texas

So it's now evident that public health officials lied to us all along on 07:54 - Mar 8 by Scotia

I doubt there's a company in the world without a policy similar to that.

Jordon Trishton Walker is not the Pfizer director of reserach (or whatevver it is claimed he is). Anyone who believes that on the strength of Tucker Carlson and his relay of a social media sting interview is genuinely a gullible fool.


I believe (or rather, know) it based on the strength of the fact that Pfizer has publicly responded to it, without denying that he works for them or even hinting at that.

If he didn't work for them, that would have been all they needed to say. In fact, the story would have been much bigger then, in the eyes of the legacy media, because they could have finally had an example of Project Veritas committing fraud.

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So it's now evident that public health officials lied to us all along on 15:32 - Mar 8 with 1138 viewsScotia

So it's now evident that public health officials lied to us all along on 14:26 - Mar 8 by Tummer_from_Texas

I believe (or rather, know) it based on the strength of the fact that Pfizer has publicly responded to it, without denying that he works for them or even hinting at that.

If he didn't work for them, that would have been all they needed to say. In fact, the story would have been much bigger then, in the eyes of the legacy media, because they could have finally had an example of Project Veritas committing fraud.


So he could be the office cleaner at Pfizer then?

Let's be fair, he was on a tinder date and trying to get his end away, hardly a situation where he is likely to underestimate his achievments is it?

If he was who project veritas claim he is it would be easy to prove. Genuinely easy.

Before you even consider there is nothing really wrong with what he is saying, even though it is heavily edited in an attempt to misrepresent. Shock, horror a vacciine company are making money out of introducing, arguably, the greatest development in medical science ever seen. And are continuing work to ensure it works going forward.

Well done Pfizer, Moderna, AZ and the others.
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So it's now evident that public health officials lied to us all along on 15:56 - Mar 8 with 1133 viewsTummer_from_Texas

So it's now evident that public health officials lied to us all along on 15:32 - Mar 8 by Scotia

So he could be the office cleaner at Pfizer then?

Let's be fair, he was on a tinder date and trying to get his end away, hardly a situation where he is likely to underestimate his achievments is it?

If he was who project veritas claim he is it would be easy to prove. Genuinely easy.

Before you even consider there is nothing really wrong with what he is saying, even though it is heavily edited in an attempt to misrepresent. Shock, horror a vacciine company are making money out of introducing, arguably, the greatest development in medical science ever seen. And are continuing work to ensure it works going forward.

Well done Pfizer, Moderna, AZ and the others.


"So he could be the office cleaner at Pfizer then?"

Then Pfizer would have stated that.

You just continue to spin this thing, devoid of any logic. But if Pfizer's PR department is hiring, you can consider me a reference.

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So it's now evident that public health officials lied to us all along on 17:31 - Mar 8 with 1118 viewsScotia

So it's now evident that public health officials lied to us all along on 15:56 - Mar 8 by Tummer_from_Texas

"So he could be the office cleaner at Pfizer then?"

Then Pfizer would have stated that.

You just continue to spin this thing, devoid of any logic. But if Pfizer's PR department is hiring, you can consider me a reference.


Why would they even get involved in a conversation?

They shouldn't have to bring themselves down to the level of a misrepresented and heavily edited conspiracy theory video that most people can see straight through.

They've issued a refutal that's enough.

The vaccines are safe and have ended the pandemic.
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So it's now evident that public health officials lied to us all along on 10:04 - Mar 9 with 1051 viewsmangohilljack

So it's now evident that public health officials lied to us all along on 17:31 - Mar 8 by Scotia

Why would they even get involved in a conversation?

They shouldn't have to bring themselves down to the level of a misrepresented and heavily edited conspiracy theory video that most people can see straight through.

They've issued a refutal that's enough.

The vaccines are safe and have ended the pandemic.


Tell that to the hundreds of thousands of forgotten people who have suffered and continue to suffer as a result of 'saving grandma' I know quite a few people who are suffering as a result and it's not hard to find many many more.
the evidence is everywhere, lie after lie after lie and you still can't see the wood for the tree's.
please tell me why, if this deadly virus was so deadly and the experts (paid by big Pharma) told us this along with the leaders of the country, were having parties in the garden whilst we were told we cannot visit dying relatives.

If the vaccines ended the virus why are there so many healthy unvaccinated people living life as normal, why isn't covid killing the unvaccinated, it's not rocket science.
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