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Group Stage draw - pot 2 21:58 - Aug 29 with 9775 viewsJackFish

Lots of shocks tonight which means it looks like we've somehow sneaked into pot 2, so good news on that front.

Will post a full list of opponents later once all the games have finished.
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Group Stage draw - pot 2 on 22:03 - Aug 29 with 7094 viewsBelfast

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Group Stage draw - pot 2 on 22:09 - Aug 29 with 7038 viewsJoeSoccerFan

At best, I see if Pandruii scores 1 more goal, we're in 25th place. Unless AZ gives up 2 more goals.

Perhaps, I miscalculated?
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Group Stage draw - pot 2 on 22:12 - Aug 29 with 7000 viewsmawdlamjack

az game abandoned due to fire in crowd

on the northbank since 64 now languishing in the east stand

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Group Stage draw - pot 2 on 22:12 - Aug 29 with 6991 viewsJackFish

Besiktas are very likely to be chucked out, but yes, Pandurii winning in Braga would confirm it as well.

It depends what they do with the lucky loser too, if the lucky loser has a higher coefficient than us will they put them in a higher pot? Or will they have to be in pot 4? That would be the fairest outcome in my opinion.
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Group Stage draw - pot 2 on 22:23 - Aug 29 with 6865 viewsLT10__JS9__SS11

Seeding pot 1
Spain Valencia CC: 102.605
France Lyon CC: 95.800
England Tottenham Hotspur CC: 69.592
Ukraine Dynamo Kyiv CC:68.951
Netherlands PSV Eindhoven CC: 64.945
France Bordeaux CC: 59.800
Russia Rubin Kazan CC: 58.266
Spain Sevilla CC: 55.105
Belgium Standard Liège CC: 45.880
Italy Fiorentina CC: 42.829
Seeding pot 1 or 2 (TBD)
Italy Lazio CC: 41.829
Turkey BeÅŸiktaÅŸ CC: 34.900

Seeding pot 2
Greece PAOK CC: 28.800
Austria Red Bull Salzburg CC: 28.075
Belgium Genk CC: 26.880
Croatia Dinamo Zagreb CC: 25.916
Ukraine Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk CC: 23.951
Turkey Trabzonspor CC: 21.400
Russia Anzhi Makhachkala CC: 20.266
Spain Real Betis CC: 17.605
England Wigan Athletic CC: 16.592
Seeding pot 2 or 3 (TBD)
England Swansea City CC: 16.592
Germany Freiburg CC: 15.922
Germany Eintracht Frankfurt CC: 15.922

How come if we have the exact coefficient as Wigan, they are definately pot 2 and we are yet to be decided?
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Group Stage draw - pot 2 on 22:27 - Aug 29 with 6824 viewswr72

So if Besiktas are kicked out we go into pot 2?
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Group Stage draw - pot 2 on 22:36 - Aug 29 with 6735 viewsJBT95

Group Stage draw - pot 2 on 22:23 - Aug 29 by LT10__JS9__SS11

Seeding pot 1
Spain Valencia CC: 102.605
France Lyon CC: 95.800
England Tottenham Hotspur CC: 69.592
Ukraine Dynamo Kyiv CC:68.951
Netherlands PSV Eindhoven CC: 64.945
France Bordeaux CC: 59.800
Russia Rubin Kazan CC: 58.266
Spain Sevilla CC: 55.105
Belgium Standard Liège CC: 45.880
Italy Fiorentina CC: 42.829
Seeding pot 1 or 2 (TBD)
Italy Lazio CC: 41.829
Turkey BeÅŸiktaÅŸ CC: 34.900

Seeding pot 2
Greece PAOK CC: 28.800
Austria Red Bull Salzburg CC: 28.075
Belgium Genk CC: 26.880
Croatia Dinamo Zagreb CC: 25.916
Ukraine Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk CC: 23.951
Turkey Trabzonspor CC: 21.400
Russia Anzhi Makhachkala CC: 20.266
Spain Real Betis CC: 17.605
England Wigan Athletic CC: 16.592
Seeding pot 2 or 3 (TBD)
England Swansea City CC: 16.592
Germany Freiburg CC: 15.922
Germany Eintracht Frankfurt CC: 15.922

How come if we have the exact coefficient as Wigan, they are definately pot 2 and we are yet to be decided?


I assume because they enter at a later stage than us, Wigan get to be above us?
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Group Stage draw - pot 2 on 22:38 - Aug 29 with 6709 viewsPozuelosSideys

Urghh we could end up with Dynamo Kiev, Anzhi Makhachkala and Skenderbeu in Abania in our group out of all that..

Barcelona, Florence and Naples it aint..

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Group Stage draw - pot 2 on 22:38 - Aug 29 with 6679 viewsJackFish

Wigan are above us because they qualified as cup winners, so they're ranked higher than us.

As I understand it, if Pandurii win in Braga, or AZ lose tomorrow, or Besiktas are thrown out, we're in pot 2. The only caveat being if a lucky loser comes back in who are ranked above us, we might get shifted back to pot 3. I don't think we'll know for sure until they announce it in the morning.

Watching the Braga/Pandurii game in the hotel now :D
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Group Stage draw - pot 2 on 22:48 - Aug 29 with 6587 viewsNeathJack

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Group Stage draw - pot 2 on 22:50 - Aug 29 with 6567 viewsJackFish

So we're in at the moment, but could do with either a Pandurii win tonight or Besiktas getting kicked out, otherwise we might get bumped back to pot 3 by the lucky loser.

Would quite like PSV, Vienna and Rijeka from the available teams.
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Group Stage draw - pot 2 on 22:56 - Aug 29 with 6516 viewsEuropaJack

Group Stage draw - pot 2 on 22:50 - Aug 29 by JackFish

So we're in at the moment, but could do with either a Pandurii win tonight or Besiktas getting kicked out, otherwise we might get bumped back to pot 3 by the lucky loser.

Would quite like PSV, Vienna and Rijeka from the available teams.


Which 'lucky losers' would drop us out of Pot 2 do you know?

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Group Stage draw - pot 2 on 22:57 - Aug 29 with 6494 viewsJoeSoccerFan

Group Stage draw - pot 2 on 22:38 - Aug 29 by JackFish

Wigan are above us because they qualified as cup winners, so they're ranked higher than us.

As I understand it, if Pandurii win in Braga, or AZ lose tomorrow, or Besiktas are thrown out, we're in pot 2. The only caveat being if a lucky loser comes back in who are ranked above us, we might get shifted back to pot 3. I don't think we'll know for sure until they announce it in the morning.

Watching the Braga/Pandurii game in the hotel now :D


Pandurii scores in 117' - oh my!
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Group Stage draw - pot 2 on 22:57 - Aug 29 with 6488 viewswr72

That Pandurii side i'd have thought.
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Group Stage draw - pot 2 on 22:58 - Aug 29 with 6465 viewsPozuelosSideys

Sevilla, legia Warsaw and Apollon Limassol please

Definitely not Rubin Kazan, Chernomorets Odessa and Maccabi Tel Aviv

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Group Stage draw - pot 2 on 22:58 - Aug 29 with 6463 viewsJackFish

Goal Pandurri! That's pot 2 confirmed for us I believe.

The teams that would have knocked us out were the ones who were above us previously, so Braga, Udinese, Spartak Moscow, Stuttgart, St. Etienne and Partizan Belgrade.
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Group Stage draw - pot 2 on 23:19 - Aug 29 with 6305 viewsyescomeon

Group Stage draw - pot 2 on 22:38 - Aug 29 by PozuelosSideys

Urghh we could end up with Dynamo Kiev, Anzhi Makhachkala and Skenderbeu in Abania in our group out of all that..

Barcelona, Florence and Naples it aint..


We're all going on an almost Asian tour...

Upthecity!

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Group Stage draw - pot 2 on 23:27 - Aug 29 with 6221 viewsJackFish

Group Stage draw - pot 2 on 23:19 - Aug 29 by yescomeon

We're all going on an almost Asian tour...


Imagine we get Maccabi Tel-Aviv, Shakhter Karagandy and Rubin Kazan, yuck!
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Group Stage draw - pot 2 on 23:36 - Aug 29 with 6165 viewsSpratty

Thanks for all the workings out . Good to make pot 2.

Excited for the draw
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Group Stage draw - pot 2 on 23:40 - Aug 29 with 6130 viewsPedroJack

Hopefully a kind draw travel wise with no trips to outer-cwm-shithole!
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Group Stage draw - pot 2 on 23:54 - Aug 29 with 6071 viewsyescomeon

Group Stage draw - pot 2 on 23:27 - Aug 29 by JackFish

Imagine we get Maccabi Tel-Aviv, Shakhter Karagandy and Rubin Kazan, yuck!


Call me old fashioned but Kazakhstan and Israel are not in Europe. Turkey is at a push and you could mayebe put in a case for Georgia and Azerbazjan if you reeeeealy push the boat out. I can't be arsed to google it but for us Canada is probably closer than bloody Kazakhstan.

Upthecity!

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Group Stage draw - pot 2 on 06:34 - Aug 30 with 5858 viewsLaudrupFan

Group Stage draw - pot 2 on 23:54 - Aug 29 by yescomeon

Call me old fashioned but Kazakhstan and Israel are not in Europe. Turkey is at a push and you could mayebe put in a case for Georgia and Azerbazjan if you reeeeealy push the boat out. I can't be arsed to google it but for us Canada is probably closer than bloody Kazakhstan.


According to Wikipedia: Europe is generally divided from Asia by the watershed divides of the Ural and Caucasus Mountains, the Ural River, the Caspian and Black Seas, and the waterways connecting the Black and Aegean Seas.

Therefore:
-Kazakhstan is partly in Europe and partly in Asia (mostly Asia) divided by the Ural River.
-Turkey (and its capital) is partly in Europe and partly in Asia (mostly Asia) divided by the Bosphorus.
-Georgia is not in Europe being south of the Manych River in the Kuma-Manych Depression.
-Azerbazjan is not in Europe. Same as above.
-Armenia is also not in Europe. Same as above.
-Israel is not even close to being in Europe.

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Group Stage draw - pot 2 on 07:33 - Aug 30 with 5740 viewsJackFish

Israel are only in UEFA because none of the Arab countries (or Iran) will play them.
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Group Stage draw - pot 2 on 07:49 - Aug 30 with 5683 viewsJackFish

Besiktas are gone, replaced by Tromso. Freiburg definitely in pot 2 with us now, Elfsborg in 3.
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Group Stage draw - pot 2 on 08:32 - Aug 30 with 5564 viewsDyfnant

Are the dates allocated specific matches today as well?

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