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Be good if the Scots voted for independence 22:28 - Jan 11 with 1345 viewssevenhoop

That would mean never again in my lifetime would we have those green-eyed, unbelievably hypocritical (which 'socialists' aren't?) Labour politicians in power again due to losing Christ-knows how many Scottish mp's from parliament.
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Be good if the Scots voted for independence on 22:50 - Jan 11 with 1293 viewsTheBlob

We'd only have to bail them out again when they inevitably f*ck up.

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Be good if the Scots voted for independence on 22:55 - Jan 11 with 1283 viewsderbyhoop

Whatever your political views, having 1 government in power without an effective or credible opposition, will never be a good thing. Whether it was the Tories in 1964 and 1997 or Labour in 2010, all 3 of those governments were well past their sell by date.

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Be good if the Scots voted for independence on 23:11 - Jan 11 with 1247 viewsPacal_Votan

Get rid of the corporation of London.

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Be good if the Scots voted for independence on 00:27 - Jan 12 with 1202 viewsBrightonhoop

Why does Salmon want to put it off until 2014 if he's so desperate for independence? And why the third 'more money' clause to a straight Yes or No question? He's a fraud as far as I can tell.
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Be good if the Scots voted for independence on 01:45 - Jan 12 with 1172 viewsRangersAreBack

Be good if the Scots voted for independence on 00:27 - Jan 12 by Brightonhoop

Why does Salmon want to put it off until 2014 if he's so desperate for independence? And why the third 'more money' clause to a straight Yes or No question? He's a fraud as far as I can tell.


He snuck that one in there in the hope of gaining more autonomy for Scotland whilst retaining funding from Westminster.

If he wants independence then the referendum should be a straight Yes or No choice. If they choose Yes then they should stand completely on their own 2 feet and give up all funding from London.
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Be good if the Scots voted for independence on 08:12 - Jan 12 with 1103 viewsashranger

Perhaps they can stop reading the Scottish football results out on bbc as well, pointless!

Not sure as an independent country they would want the burden of the Scottish banks on their shoulders either.
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Be good if the Scots voted for independence on 08:56 - Jan 12 with 1044 views18StoneOfHoop

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Be good if the Scots voted for independence on 09:03 - Jan 12 with 1023 viewsTonto

I went to uni in Scitland, lived there for a while and still have Scottish mates, so perhaps am a little less biased...

But i think it would be a bad thing for Scotland. they are hanging most of the idea of economic stability on North sea Oil. In other words a finite resource. I realise that they are discovering more opil and it could go one for another century or so, but in the meatime, the world is looking for alternatives to oil. Its a short-medium term arguement (albeit longer than any of our lifetimes).

Secondaly they would have to convert to the Euro, as thats one of the requirements to joining the EU these days.

What would happen to the RBS debt? (all joking aside)

As for the original point, giving the Tories the keys to an English parliament is NOT a good thing. In the same way that it would not be good if any other party was guaranteed victory. Change can be a good thing. Sometimes change is needed. A strong opposition keeps a government on its toes. Complacency is tantamount to stagnation.

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Be good if the Scots voted for independence on 09:34 - Jan 12 with 990 viewsMetallica_Hoop

We'd have to erect border controls as well to stop people arriving in Scotland and getting into England/Wales through 'The back door'.

Assuming they want to lose their new found independance by joining the EU.

These guys were awesome 'til they went all short haired/altenative. Ricky however does a great job fronting Thin Lizzy now.


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Be good if the Scots voted for independence on 09:43 - Jan 12 with 977 viewsgueRRilla

The Scottish First Minister was being interviewed on C4 news last night. His economic argument was that Scotland should get 90% of North Sea oil revenues as 90% of it would fall within Scottish territorial waters, while they should not be exposed to all the Scottish bank debt as it was due to financial mismanagement by a London government and reckless London regulation. Couldn't see London agreeing to that in a million years. But the more that the Tories push against the referendum, the more popular secession will become in Scotland.
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Be good if the Scots voted for independence on 09:53 - Jan 12 with 957 viewsTheBlob

Be good if the Scots voted for independence on 00:27 - Jan 12 by Brightonhoop

Why does Salmon want to put it off until 2014 if he's so desperate for independence? And why the third 'more money' clause to a straight Yes or No question? He's a fraud as far as I can tell.


Anniversary of Bannockburn - 1314.their "success" against the bastard English and a bit of patriotic fervour.

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Be good if the Scots voted for independence on 10:07 - Jan 12 with 938 viewsbaz_qpr

Be good if the Scots voted for independence on 09:03 - Jan 12 by Tonto

I went to uni in Scitland, lived there for a while and still have Scottish mates, so perhaps am a little less biased...

But i think it would be a bad thing for Scotland. they are hanging most of the idea of economic stability on North sea Oil. In other words a finite resource. I realise that they are discovering more opil and it could go one for another century or so, but in the meatime, the world is looking for alternatives to oil. Its a short-medium term arguement (albeit longer than any of our lifetimes).

Secondaly they would have to convert to the Euro, as thats one of the requirements to joining the EU these days.

What would happen to the RBS debt? (all joking aside)

As for the original point, giving the Tories the keys to an English parliament is NOT a good thing. In the same way that it would not be good if any other party was guaranteed victory. Change can be a good thing. Sometimes change is needed. A strong opposition keeps a government on its toes. Complacency is tantamount to stagnation.


That's the beautiful irony really, if the Scots go the Tories in theory should gain a large majority in England. However the break up of Great Britain under a Tory government would be a disaster for the party and could take generations to rebuild from.

Cameron is playing a dangerous game, his little nationalist policy in europe has made him popular again and on the surface his actions with Scotland will certainly do the same. However both could come back and bite him on the bum big time in the medium to long term
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Be good if the Scots voted for independence on 10:13 - Jan 12 with 930 viewsTheBlob

And who's going to fund this "Independence"?Oil and wind bonanzas - I think not.And what about the Barnett Formula?Let me guess,they'll want to keep that right?And they'll want to go into the Euro - if it still exists.....starting to look a real old dog's breakfast.

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Be good if the Scots voted for independence on 10:14 - Jan 12 with 920 viewsRickyDicky

Good.

We won't have to fund Uni Fees, Prescriptions and Elderly care.

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Be good if the Scots voted for independence on 10:16 - Jan 12 with 912 viewshoopstilidie

Dear Mum and Dad

This new flat is great and I`m really enjoying the sense of independence it has given me.

Much love

Angus

p.s. you will still be paying my rent and utility bills right?

Ringo Starr ate my hamper.
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Be good if the Scots voted for independence on 10:20 - Jan 12 with 906 viewspeejaybee

And they can keep there Kilts,Haggis,and Porridge as well.!!!!!!!!!!!!

If at first you dont succeed, pack up and f**k off home.

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Be good if the Scots voted for independence on 10:20 - Jan 12 with 906 viewshoopstilidie

Be good if the Scots voted for independence on 09:53 - Jan 12 by TheBlob

Anniversary of Bannockburn - 1314.their "success" against the bastard English and a bit of patriotic fervour.


Ah Bannockburn! Where Robert de Brus, son of an Essex born Frenchman beat the Franco-Spanish Edouard.

Ringo Starr ate my hamper.
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Be good if the Scots voted for independence on 10:25 - Jan 12 with 891 viewsballbag

Be good if the Scots voted for independence on 09:34 - Jan 12 by Metallica_Hoop

We'd have to erect border controls as well to stop people arriving in Scotland and getting into England/Wales through 'The back door'.

Assuming they want to lose their new found independance by joining the EU.

These guys were awesome 'til they went all short haired/altenative. Ricky however does a great job fronting Thin Lizzy now.



First band I EVER saw live were Scottish, The Exploited. I was about 13 and bricking it.

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Be good if the Scots voted for independence on 10:28 - Jan 12 with 884 viewsTheBlob

Be good if the Scots voted for independence on 10:20 - Jan 12 by hoopstilidie

Ah Bannockburn! Where Robert de Brus, son of an Essex born Frenchman beat the Franco-Spanish Edouard.




Getting back to the Auld Alliance?Would you want a bunch of frogs camped on your borders?Time to rebuild the Antonine and Hadrian's walls methinks.

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Be good if the Scots voted for independence on 10:32 - Jan 12 with 870 viewsMetallica_Hoop

Be good if the Scots voted for independence on 10:25 - Jan 12 by ballbag

First band I EVER saw live were Scottish, The Exploited. I was about 13 and bricking it.



I've been to a few punk gigs the usual cry in the mosh is "get the metaller"

All good natured though slipping on spilt beer caused more damage than the punks.

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