| Senedd Costs 07:38 - Sep 27 with 11575 views | YrAlarch |
Apparently it's going to cost us an extra £1.2 million to prepare the Senedd for the increased number of members.
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| Senedd Costs on 19:52 - Nov 6 with 923 views | union_jack |
| Senedd Costs on 18:58 - Nov 6 by Boundy |
Myself it will be Reform , when a party such as Labour especially Welsh Labour with it's history of fighting for the rights and betterment of it's population then to see the past 25 years literally destroy the very fabric of it's society without a backwards glance.The Tories aren't a viable option due to again their indifference over the past 14 years ,more concerned with itself than those it was meant to represent, the less said about PC the better., so for me and I do believe Reform cannot do any worse than the past few decades have given us. |
If Reform run on the ‘abolish’ ticket to use an Americanism, I will vote for them 100%. They need to make sure they are the only party doing it to avoid shared votes so the current Abolish party would need to let them get on with it. |  |
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| Senedd Costs on 19:55 - Nov 6 with 922 views | Whiterockin |
| Senedd Costs on 18:11 - Nov 6 by ReslovenSwan1 |
You want Welsh affairs to be run by remote English people. I do not want this. It would help the Senedd if they stopped unpopular laws for the powers they have. This can be resolved by the voter. Reform / Brexit has, done enough damage.. |
Then a vote would be a fair outcome. If the Welsh people want the Senedd gone so be it, if they don't that's fine. Welsh Labour have brought this on themselves. |  | | |
| Senedd Costs on 19:59 - Nov 6 with 904 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Senedd Costs on 19:55 - Nov 6 by Whiterockin |
Then a vote would be a fair outcome. If the Welsh people want the Senedd gone so be it, if they don't that's fine. Welsh Labour have brought this on themselves. |
Throw in the abolishment of the Royal family and House of Lords then all three can be voted away. The Royal family is frankly a disgrace to the nation. |  |
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| Senedd Costs on 20:03 - Nov 6 with 901 views | Whiterockin |
| Senedd Costs on 19:59 - Nov 6 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Throw in the abolishment of the Royal family and House of Lords then all three can be voted away. The Royal family is frankly a disgrace to the nation. |
Thats as maybe, but Senedd elections are just around the corner. | | | |
| Senedd Costs on 21:21 - Nov 6 with 854 views | Boundy |
| Senedd Costs on 19:40 - Nov 6 by SullutaCreturned |
I couldn't bring myself to Reforms table, it'll still be an independent candidate for me, at least I'll know who I'm voting for. |
Understood but imo an independent is exactly that ,without a major influence nor backing which will be needed to make a difference .We are desperately in need of a reform to the political system in this country, maybe just maybe they'll be the party to do it. | |
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| Senedd Costs on 18:55 - Nov 8 with 734 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Senedd Costs on 21:21 - Nov 6 by Boundy |
Understood but imo an independent is exactly that ,without a major influence nor backing which will be needed to make a difference .We are desperately in need of a reform to the political system in this country, maybe just maybe they'll be the party to do it. |
I would rather fill the place with independents than vote reform. It's Nigel Farage FFS! It's more right wing than the tories, it's Donald Trump territory | | | |
| Senedd Costs on 20:53 - Nov 8 with 703 views | Whiterockin |
| Senedd Costs on 18:55 - Nov 8 by SullutaCreturned |
I would rather fill the place with independents than vote reform. It's Nigel Farage FFS! It's more right wing than the tories, it's Donald Trump territory |
It's the only way you will change politics in Wales, independents won't be strong enough to break the mold, much as I wish it would. | | | |
| Senedd Costs on 21:17 - Nov 8 with 676 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Senedd Costs on 20:53 - Nov 8 by Whiterockin |
It's the only way you will change politics in Wales, independents won't be strong enough to break the mold, much as I wish it would. |
If indepedents were in the majority then they would be strong enough. Wales won't vote for a tory majority, Reform have no chance, independents may not have much chance but more than reform. | | | |
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| Senedd Costs on 21:47 - Nov 8 with 659 views | Whiterockin |
| Senedd Costs on 21:17 - Nov 8 by SullutaCreturned |
If indepedents were in the majority then they would be strong enough. Wales won't vote for a tory majority, Reform have no chance, independents may not have much chance but more than reform. |
I have to disagree with you on this one. Reform will target the Senedd elections as a stepping stone to the GE and will have a massive impact. | | | |
| Senedd Costs on 21:47 - Nov 8 with 659 views | Scotia |
| Senedd Costs on 21:17 - Nov 8 by SullutaCreturned |
If indepedents were in the majority then they would be strong enough. Wales won't vote for a tory majority, Reform have no chance, independents may not have much chance but more than reform. |
The problem would be getting independents to unite behind particular policies. Even coming up with them in the first place will be a problem.
I think Reform do have a chance unfortunately, especially under the new system. It'll expose them for being the morons they are though. Haven't heard much from Farage in Westminster? They probably haven't in Clacton either. | | | |
| Senedd Costs on 21:53 - Nov 8 with 649 views | Whiterockin |
| Senedd Costs on 21:47 - Nov 8 by Scotia |
The problem would be getting independents to unite behind particular policies. Even coming up with them in the first place will be a problem.
I think Reform do have a chance unfortunately, especially under the new system. It'll expose them for being the morons they are though. Haven't heard much from Farage in Westminster? They probably haven't in Clacton either. |
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/welsh-political-poll-shows-bombshe
I think it could be interesting. | | | |
| Senedd Costs on 22:22 - Nov 8 with 612 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Senedd Costs on 21:47 - Nov 8 by Whiterockin |
I have to disagree with you on this one. Reform will target the Senedd elections as a stepping stone to the GE and will have a massive impact. |
Do you seriously believe that a country that won't even put tories in power will put reform in charge? A party with Farage at it's head...
I can see a swing to the right but not far enough for that. | | | |
| Senedd Costs on 22:28 - Nov 8 with 609 views | Scotia |
It could be interesting. Electing reform won't be though, they can't and won't deliver anything. It'll be down to populism and nothing more. | | | |
| Senedd Costs on 22:36 - Nov 8 with 588 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Senedd Costs on 22:28 - Nov 8 by Scotia |
It could be interesting. Electing reform won't be though, they can't and won't deliver anything. It'll be down to populism and nothing more. |
The whole UK swang more to the left but they think we'll elect reform in Wales? I really don't see it.
Plaid look far more likley to win in my book. | | | |
| Senedd Costs on 22:55 - Nov 8 with 570 views | Dr_Winston |
| Senedd Costs on 22:36 - Nov 8 by SullutaCreturned |
The whole UK swang more to the left but they think we'll elect reform in Wales? I really don't see it.
Plaid look far more likley to win in my book. |
I'm not sure that there's been any kind of appreciable move to the left. Certainly the vote numbers don't back that up.
A collapse in the Tory vote perhaps as those who did vote for them in 2019 sat the last one out or switched to Reform, but it seems pretty clear to me that there's no real desire anywhere for a leftist alternative. Certainly nobody other than the usual cranks gives two sh*tes about Plaid.
I would not be surprised to see Farage's mob make inroads at the next WG elections. Not enough to win control of anything, but they'll get a few seats. |  |
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| Senedd Costs on 23:13 - Nov 8 with 565 views | Scotia |
| Senedd Costs on 22:36 - Nov 8 by SullutaCreturned |
The whole UK swang more to the left but they think we'll elect reform in Wales? I really don't see it.
Plaid look far more likley to win in my book. |
It depends how many people actually vote. They've got way more support than plaid, but most of those won't turn up. | | | |
| Senedd Costs on 08:20 - Nov 9 with 518 views | Whiterockin |
| Senedd Costs on 22:55 - Nov 8 by Dr_Winston |
I'm not sure that there's been any kind of appreciable move to the left. Certainly the vote numbers don't back that up.
A collapse in the Tory vote perhaps as those who did vote for them in 2019 sat the last one out or switched to Reform, but it seems pretty clear to me that there's no real desire anywhere for a leftist alternative. Certainly nobody other than the usual cranks gives two sh*tes about Plaid.
I would not be surprised to see Farage's mob make inroads at the next WG elections. Not enough to win control of anything, but they'll get a few seats. |
Labour only need to lose a seat or so in the Senedd to lose control which they will. If Reform offer a vote on Senedd reform or abolish they will get a massive number voting for them. Welsh voters have had enough of Welsh Labour but won't vote Conservative or Plaid. Voting independent won't have a strong enough bond to hold the power in the Senedd. | | | |
| Senedd Costs on 09:30 - Nov 9 with 470 views | controversial_jack |
| Senedd Costs on 22:22 - Nov 8 by SullutaCreturned |
Do you seriously believe that a country that won't even put tories in power will put reform in charge? A party with Farage at it's head...
I can see a swing to the right but not far enough for that. |
I watched him on TV last night, singing the praises of Trump, it was sickening.The guy is an idiot.
Trump did this he did that, in reality he didn't accomplish a lot. | | | |
| Senedd Costs on 09:33 - Nov 9 with 471 views | raynor94 |
| Senedd Costs on 08:20 - Nov 9 by Whiterockin |
Labour only need to lose a seat or so in the Senedd to lose control which they will. If Reform offer a vote on Senedd reform or abolish they will get a massive number voting for them. Welsh voters have had enough of Welsh Labour but won't vote Conservative or Plaid. Voting independent won't have a strong enough bond to hold the power in the Senedd. |
I will certainly vote Reform if they run on a ticket to reform or abolish the Sennedd.
I couldn't vote for this Labour shower or PC |  |
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| Senedd Costs on 09:34 - Nov 9 with 468 views | controversial_jack |
| Senedd Costs on 09:33 - Nov 9 by raynor94 |
I will certainly vote Reform if they run on a ticket to reform or abolish the Sennedd.
I couldn't vote for this Labour shower or PC |
Reform, the workers party that voted against workers rights. There's one born every minute. | | | |
| Senedd Costs on 10:56 - Nov 9 with 433 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Senedd Costs on 22:55 - Nov 8 by Dr_Winston |
I'm not sure that there's been any kind of appreciable move to the left. Certainly the vote numbers don't back that up.
A collapse in the Tory vote perhaps as those who did vote for them in 2019 sat the last one out or switched to Reform, but it seems pretty clear to me that there's no real desire anywhere for a leftist alternative. Certainly nobody other than the usual cranks gives two sh*tes about Plaid.
I would not be surprised to see Farage's mob make inroads at the next WG elections. Not enough to win control of anything, but they'll get a few seats. |
More accurate to say the results swang to the left then. Still it's true though, Wales has always returned a Labour government and I can see no way that the next election provides a Reform government.
Many if not most of the diisaffected don't even bother to vote and until over 50% do turn out I don't see a change, certainly not so large that Farage takes over in Wales. | | | |
| Senedd Costs on 21:30 - Nov 11 with 353 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Senedd Costs on 09:33 - Nov 9 by raynor94 |
I will certainly vote Reform if they run on a ticket to reform or abolish the Sennedd.
I couldn't vote for this Labour shower or PC |
Many are not against the Senedd (only one n) many are against Wales running its own affairs. Many want Wales to be run by English people for some reason. The Senedd is only as good as the people Welsh people vote into it.
Many feeble Swans people who sing "we know what we are" and support English people abusing our own. A pro Anglo section on this forum. Probably of historic immigrant stock for work in the mines or works. | |
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| Senedd Costs on 22:14 - Nov 11 with 324 views | builthjack |
| Senedd Costs on 22:55 - Nov 8 by Dr_Winston |
I'm not sure that there's been any kind of appreciable move to the left. Certainly the vote numbers don't back that up.
A collapse in the Tory vote perhaps as those who did vote for them in 2019 sat the last one out or switched to Reform, but it seems pretty clear to me that there's no real desire anywhere for a leftist alternative. Certainly nobody other than the usual cranks gives two sh*tes about Plaid.
I would not be surprised to see Farage's mob make inroads at the next WG elections. Not enough to win control of anything, but they'll get a few seats. |
Why do you call Plaid voters cranks?
You don’t seem to like anything Welsh. |  |
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| Senedd Costs on 22:33 - Nov 11 with 305 views | Kilkennyjack |
Farage is simply using Wales.
That said the position of opposition is vacant in Wales.
Tories never do well.
Progressive vote split between Labour, Pkaid, Libs, and Greens.
Therefore Farage has a real chance to take second place.
In fact, i think its likely to happen.
Labour lack the leadership to crush Farage. |  |
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| Senedd Costs on 08:54 - Nov 12 with 273 views | Whiterockin |
| Senedd Costs on 22:33 - Nov 11 by Kilkennyjack |
Farage is simply using Wales.
That said the position of opposition is vacant in Wales.
Tories never do well.
Progressive vote split between Labour, Pkaid, Libs, and Greens.
Therefore Farage has a real chance to take second place.
In fact, i think its likely to happen.
Labour lack the leadership to crush Farage. |
Farage currently is the only option to give the Senedd the kick it needs. | | | |
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