| Who is going to refuse to be vaccinated? 07:25 - Jan 30 with 31770 views | Glyn1 |
And why, exactly?
Controversial Jack, but who else?
From CJ : "Appears that it could only be 70% effective and not 90% , and none of those in the trial given the low dosage were over 55. Given that many won't have the vaccine and it's effectiveness is just 70% it's going to be a crock of shit."
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| Who is going to refuse to be vaccinated? on 13:22 - Jan 31 with 1535 views | Boundy |
Back to the OP , what's the alternative , watch while many more die , fall into destitution, social disorder , break down of society or perhaps even war |  |
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| Who is going to refuse to be vaccinated? on 13:34 - Jan 31 with 1521 views | Dr_Winston |
Nobody should be forced to take the vaccine. However, anyone unvaccinated should have no entitlement to restitution should that choice backfire on them.
Businesses should be free to demand verification that someone has had the jab before being allowed to enter restaurants, take flights, use public transport, that sort of thing. Want to go abroad on holiday? Tough. Get vaccinated. Fancy going for a nice meal of an evening? Tough. Get vaccinated.
You can be an anti-vaxxer (or "pro-plague") if you wish. Just don't expect to be treated as a normal member of the human race if you prefer to remain bug ridden. |  |
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| Who is going to refuse to be vaccinated? on 14:14 - Jan 31 with 1497 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Who is going to refuse to be vaccinated? on 13:18 - Jan 31 by controversial_jack |
You aren't getting this are you. The smallpox vaccine was introduced over 200 years ago. there were mass vaccination problems even then , with big uptakes, There were several big outbreaks of smallpox after this , therefore the vaccine didn't work
You have only gone back to 1967 when living conditions worldwide had improved dramatically. You haven't addressed why clean water and sanitation had already made huge improvements to disease control, and that was the same for all infectious diseases |
Why are you arguing with me?
1979 was the year that small pox was declared beaten. | | | |
| Who is going to refuse to be vaccinated? on 14:20 - Jan 31 with 1483 views | onehunglow |
| Who is going to refuse to be vaccinated? on 14:14 - Jan 31 by A_Fans_Dad |
Why are you arguing with me?
1979 was the year that small pox was declared beaten. |
He is just made that way,and it passes the time arguing the toss with him.
How do ya feel about some beaut basically accusing Johnno of virtually killing 100,000 people. | |
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| Who is going to refuse to be vaccinated? on 14:38 - Jan 31 with 1481 views | Jack123 |
| Who is going to refuse to be vaccinated? on 13:34 - Jan 31 by Dr_Winston |
Nobody should be forced to take the vaccine. However, anyone unvaccinated should have no entitlement to restitution should that choice backfire on them.
Businesses should be free to demand verification that someone has had the jab before being allowed to enter restaurants, take flights, use public transport, that sort of thing. Want to go abroad on holiday? Tough. Get vaccinated. Fancy going for a nice meal of an evening? Tough. Get vaccinated.
You can be an anti-vaxxer (or "pro-plague") if you wish. Just don't expect to be treated as a normal member of the human race if you prefer to remain bug ridden. |
From what i understand about this vaccine, it makes the disease less serious if you catch it!
So for the life of me, I cannot understand why shall we say pro vaxxers are even bothered, who takes it, and who does not. |  |
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| Who is going to refuse to be vaccinated? on 14:45 - Jan 31 with 1461 views | onehunglow |
and without a vaccine where exactly are we. | |
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| Who is going to refuse to be vaccinated? on 15:01 - Jan 31 with 1453 views | Jack123 |
I really don't understand, how we have reached a point, where people can say if they don't have the vaccination, then they should be prevented going to restaurants, or concerts..
Just why? If all the vaccine is doing is making the symptoms less severe? It should be of no concern, who has had it, and who hasn't. | |
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| Who is going to refuse to be vaccinated? on 15:16 - Jan 31 with 1430 views | CountyJim |
Had mine about 10 day's ago did spoil my weekend mind felt like I had flu symptoms heavy legs didn't want to do anything felt lathargic but glad I had it now |  | | |
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| Who is going to refuse to be vaccinated? on 15:39 - Jan 31 with 1407 views | onehunglow |
| Who is going to refuse to be vaccinated? on 15:16 - Jan 31 by CountyJim |
Had mine about 10 day's ago did spoil my weekend mind felt like I had flu symptoms heavy legs didn't want to do anything felt lathargic but glad I had it now |
Jim.
Ive had a really bad headache but not sure whether it's me getting all excited about our team possibly on the cusp of PL again.
Be lucky ya bugger | |
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| Who is going to refuse to be vaccinated? on 15:59 - Jan 31 with 1399 views | controversial_jack |
| Who is going to refuse to be vaccinated? on 14:14 - Jan 31 by A_Fans_Dad |
Why are you arguing with me?
1979 was the year that small pox was declared beaten. |
That was 180 years after the vaccine was introduced. Do you see where i'm coming from? | | | |
| Who is going to refuse to be vaccinated? on 16:17 - Jan 31 with 1387 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Who is going to refuse to be vaccinated? on 15:59 - Jan 31 by controversial_jack |
That was 180 years after the vaccine was introduced. Do you see where i'm coming from? |
Yes, I am not arguing with you, I was pointing out that you were right. | | | |
| Who is going to refuse to be vaccinated? on 16:19 - Jan 31 with 1382 views | hobo |
| Who is going to refuse to be vaccinated? on 15:01 - Jan 31 by Jack123 |
I really don't understand, how we have reached a point, where people can say if they don't have the vaccination, then they should be prevented going to restaurants, or concerts..
Just why? If all the vaccine is doing is making the symptoms less severe? It should be of no concern, who has had it, and who hasn't. |
Agreed, it's very dangerous far right thinking.
As you say, it's more of a symptom reliever than a vaccine. Only those in the at risk group really need it, and even then it's up to each individual person whether they want it in their body |  | | |
| Who is going to refuse to be vaccinated? on 16:38 - Jan 31 with 1374 views | Highjack |
| Who is going to refuse to be vaccinated? on 15:01 - Jan 31 by Jack123 |
I really don't understand, how we have reached a point, where people can say if they don't have the vaccination, then they should be prevented going to restaurants, or concerts..
Just why? If all the vaccine is doing is making the symptoms less severe? It should be of no concern, who has had it, and who hasn't. |
I can understand the argument in regards to travelling, you could be bringing the virus to an area that doesn’t have it, and if you haven’t been vaccinated you’re more likely to have symptoms like a cough that spreads it quicker. |  |
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| Who is going to refuse to be vaccinated? on 16:47 - Jan 31 with 1355 views | Gwyn737 |
Israel, whose vaccine programme is a little ahead of ours, is showing the Pfizer vaccine at 92% efficacy one to two weeks after the second dose.
It’s a remarkable achievement. | | | |
| Who is going to refuse to be vaccinated? on 16:58 - Jan 31 with 1337 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Who is going to refuse to be vaccinated? on 14:20 - Jan 31 by onehunglow |
He is just made that way,and it passes the time arguing the toss with him.
How do ya feel about some beaut basically accusing Johnno of virtually killing 100,000 people. |
How do I feel?
I happen to agree with him that Johnson has a lot of the responsibility for many of those deaths.
I have been posting the same thing since Mar 9th 2019.
He and his team have made mistake after mistake, going all the way back to 2017 when they ignored the report that said we were totally unprepared for a pandemic. | | | |
| Who is going to refuse to be vaccinated? on 16:58 - Jan 31 with 1336 views | controversial_jack |
| Who is going to refuse to be vaccinated? on 16:47 - Jan 31 by Gwyn737 |
Israel, whose vaccine programme is a little ahead of ours, is showing the Pfizer vaccine at 92% efficacy one to two weeks after the second dose.
It’s a remarkable achievement. |
They don't seem to be having fewer cases or deaths though | | | |
| Who is going to refuse to be vaccinated? on 17:00 - Jan 31 with 1333 views | A_Fans_Dad |
Does it stop you getting it?
Does it stop you spreading it?
Does it stop the very old (80+) from dying of COVID? [Post edited 31 Jan 2021 17:02]
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| Who is going to refuse to be vaccinated? on 17:06 - Jan 31 with 1325 views | Jack123 |
I have read that link regarding symptom reliever, and it's just talking about a proposed study, how they propose to find out, if the vaccination stops people being infectious. | |
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| Who is going to refuse to be vaccinated? on 17:07 - Jan 31 with 1317 views | Gwyn737 |
| Who is going to refuse to be vaccinated? on 16:58 - Jan 31 by controversial_jack |
They don't seem to be having fewer cases or deaths though |
Looks like the infection rate has started to turn so deaths should follow, albeit slowly.
Just goes to show how far into the programme you have to go before things swing into a positive direction. | | | |
| Who is going to refuse to be vaccinated? on 17:18 - Jan 31 with 1308 views | pencoedjack |
| Who is going to refuse to be vaccinated? on 22:10 - Jan 30 by hobo |
I’ve been blessed with a wonderful immune system. I’m very rarely ill, am physically fit and have a good diet, so there’s no real need to mess with something that’s working as it should be |
I hope all your loved ones are of the same levels of fittest.
With the greatest respect I would have little sympathy for anyone (or their loved ones) who ended up in hospital if they refused to have the vaccine.
Let’s hope those who refuse to take it are not taking up hospital beds of cancer or those with other illnesses that require hospital treatment.
I believe those who refuse should be bottom of the list for a hospital bed. |  | | |
| Who is going to refuse to be vaccinated? on 17:32 - Jan 31 with 1298 views | Jack123 |
| Who is going to refuse to be vaccinated? on 17:18 - Jan 31 by pencoedjack |
I hope all your loved ones are of the same levels of fittest.
With the greatest respect I would have little sympathy for anyone (or their loved ones) who ended up in hospital if they refused to have the vaccine.
Let’s hope those who refuse to take it are not taking up hospital beds of cancer or those with other illnesses that require hospital treatment.
I believe those who refuse should be bottom of the list for a hospital bed. |
Pretty poor thing to say, it is his choice, what if I said anyone who has the vaccine and get's a reaction to it, should be refused treatment?
Because if we turn it around, in essence that is what you are saying. | |
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| Who is going to refuse to be vaccinated? on 17:37 - Jan 31 with 1285 views | pencoedjack |
| Who is going to refuse to be vaccinated? on 17:32 - Jan 31 by Jack123 |
Pretty poor thing to say, it is his choice, what if I said anyone who has the vaccine and get's a reaction to it, should be refused treatment?
Because if we turn it around, in essence that is what you are saying. |
It’s not poor at all, it’s up to him for not wanting the vaccine but he (or others) should not expect to have a hospital bed or be put in IC over a cancer (or other ill) patient. | | | |
| Who is going to refuse to be vaccinated? on 17:50 - Jan 31 with 1272 views | Jack123 |
| Who is going to refuse to be vaccinated? on 17:37 - Jan 31 by pencoedjack |
It’s not poor at all, it’s up to him for not wanting the vaccine but he (or others) should not expect to have a hospital bed or be put in IC over a cancer (or other ill) patient. |
Well to say people who don't want to take the vaccine, should be bottom of the list is not nice,.
And it works both ways, so the one's who have taken it, if they get ill, they should also be bottom of the list.
There is too much coercion going on, why on earth would anybody say ah well, if you don't take it, take your chances in icu.
I'm totally undecided now with regards to taking it, still leaning slightly to not, but nobody should ever be bullied into something they don't want to do. [Post edited 31 Jan 2021 18:00]
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| Who is going to refuse to be vaccinated? on 17:58 - Jan 31 with 1266 views | builthjack |
| Who is going to refuse to be vaccinated? on 17:18 - Jan 31 by pencoedjack |
I hope all your loved ones are of the same levels of fittest.
With the greatest respect I would have little sympathy for anyone (or their loved ones) who ended up in hospital if they refused to have the vaccine.
Let’s hope those who refuse to take it are not taking up hospital beds of cancer or those with other illnesses that require hospital treatment.
I believe those who refuse should be bottom of the list for a hospital bed. |
Spot on |  |
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