| McBurnie to Sheffield Utd/Brighton for £12 million? on 09:41 - Jun 23 with 2353 views | jack247 |
| McBurnie to Sheffield Utd/Brighton for £12 million? on 09:33 - Jun 23 by Badlands |
No one wants to pay the wages the Ayews or Borja currently receive let alone offer any money for them. And, there is no one interested in buying the Swans let lone at a price that would come close to the sum paid by the Americans for their shares.
AAB (plus Bony, Clucas, Mesa, Sanches, Abraham) were brought in very high costs in order to keep us in the PL. No penny pinching there or buying with a view to making a 'quick buck'. Some players were bought cheaply (relatively) in order to get value for money and possibly a profit when they leave - whatever will football clubs do next????? But the naysayers ignore the £130 million spent on transfers trying to stay in the Premier League from 2016 - 18.
That £130 million does not include wages.
Why were the costs so high?
Because as Laudrup, Guidolin, Clements and Carvalhal stated players were targeted but did not want to come to Swansea (Jenkins, Birch and Pearlman have also be heard to say the same).
Reality check - the club won't fail because of prudent ownership it will be down to fans staying away and others believing we have a god given right to be in the Premier League.
Last season we finished 12th in the second tier of the English pyramid. A feat we have only bettered 12 times in our history with 2 of those being relegations from the top league). |
The club isn’t on a financial precipice because a few thousand people didnt renew their season tickets.
We bettered 12th in the second tier the last 10 or 11 seasons in a row. It’s nothing to boast about. Where we finished 20/30/40 years ago is no longer relevant. |  | |  |
| McBurnie to Sheffield Utd/Brighton for £12 million? on 10:17 - Jun 23 with 2255 views | swancity |
| McBurnie to Sheffield Utd/Brighton for £12 million? on 16:45 - Jun 22 by Luther27 |
Just wrap it up will you. The post was about the Ollie sale. I don’t want to sell him...and I don’t think it should even be discussed. We should be adding to our squad. The old board couldn’t have financed our situation in the Premiership but people like you couldn’t accept. They’ve gone... they’re history. They don’t matter anymore. I’m pretty sure you’ll be pleased to know this is the last reply I can be arssd to give you numpty. |
“ They don’t matter any more “
I’d like to think that was the case but it’s not. Far from it. They ( Jenkins Dineen Morgan etc ) do matter. With the passing of every day now it’s more and more clear that the ownership of the Club is in the wrong hands and that bring the case it’s almost certainly downhill from here. As a supporter I hope I’m wrong but things do not seem or feel right. There’s a lack of real ambition despite cheap talk to the contrary.
The possible / pending Court case against them means that they do matter. They have caused this mess. And they need to be held accountable for their sly illegal immoral actions and on that basis they “matter “ very much old bean. ðŸ‘🻠| |
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| McBurnie to Sheffield Utd/Brighton for £12 million? on 10:18 - Jun 23 with 2256 views | raynor94 |
Southampton have offered £14 million for Che Adams Birmingham top scorer, so £12 to £15 million seems to be the going rate |  |
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| McBurnie to Sheffield Utd/Brighton for £12 million? on 10:59 - Jun 23 with 2200 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| McBurnie to Sheffield Utd/Brighton for £12 million? on 10:18 - Jun 23 by raynor94 |
Southampton have offered £14 million for Che Adams Birmingham top scorer, so £12 to £15 million seems to be the going rate |
If some think he's worth 25 million they can't have seen him play or still think we're a PL club. |  |
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| McBurnie to Sheffield Utd/Brighton for £12 million? on 11:00 - Jun 23 with 2198 views | swan65split |
| McBurnie to Sheffield Utd/Brighton for £12 million? on 10:17 - Jun 23 by swancity |
“ They don’t matter any more “
I’d like to think that was the case but it’s not. Far from it. They ( Jenkins Dineen Morgan etc ) do matter. With the passing of every day now it’s more and more clear that the ownership of the Club is in the wrong hands and that bring the case it’s almost certainly downhill from here. As a supporter I hope I’m wrong but things do not seem or feel right. There’s a lack of real ambition despite cheap talk to the contrary.
The possible / pending Court case against them means that they do matter. They have caused this mess. And they need to be held accountable for their sly illegal immoral actions and on that basis they “matter “ very much old bean. ðŸ‘🻠|
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| McBurnie to Sheffield Utd/Brighton for £12 million? on 11:03 - Jun 23 with 2193 views | swan65split |
| McBurnie to Sheffield Utd/Brighton for £12 million? on 09:33 - Jun 23 by Badlands |
No one wants to pay the wages the Ayews or Borja currently receive let alone offer any money for them. And, there is no one interested in buying the Swans let lone at a price that would come close to the sum paid by the Americans for their shares.
AAB (plus Bony, Clucas, Mesa, Sanches, Abraham) were brought in very high costs in order to keep us in the PL. No penny pinching there or buying with a view to making a 'quick buck'. Some players were bought cheaply (relatively) in order to get value for money and possibly a profit when they leave - whatever will football clubs do next????? But the naysayers ignore the £130 million spent on transfers trying to stay in the Premier League from 2016 - 18.
That £130 million does not include wages.
Why were the costs so high?
Because as Laudrup, Guidolin, Clements and Carvalhal stated players were targeted but did not want to come to Swansea (Jenkins, Birch and Pearlman have also be heard to say the same).
Reality check - the club won't fail because of prudent ownership it will be down to fans staying away and others believing we have a god given right to be in the Premier League.
Last season we finished 12th in the second tier of the English pyramid. A feat we have only bettered 12 times in our history with 2 of those being relegations from the top league). |
Its always the case no one wants to come here....thats not new, but we did ok before the sale then low and behold a spending spree and more.
Yep ass dripper says it strinks. | | | |
| McBurnie to Sheffield Utd/Brighton for £12 million? on 11:37 - Jun 23 with 2112 views | theloneranger |
| McBurnie to Sheffield Utd/Brighton for £12 million? on 09:33 - Jun 23 by Badlands |
No one wants to pay the wages the Ayews or Borja currently receive let alone offer any money for them. And, there is no one interested in buying the Swans let lone at a price that would come close to the sum paid by the Americans for their shares.
AAB (plus Bony, Clucas, Mesa, Sanches, Abraham) were brought in very high costs in order to keep us in the PL. No penny pinching there or buying with a view to making a 'quick buck'. Some players were bought cheaply (relatively) in order to get value for money and possibly a profit when they leave - whatever will football clubs do next????? But the naysayers ignore the £130 million spent on transfers trying to stay in the Premier League from 2016 - 18.
That £130 million does not include wages.
Why were the costs so high?
Because as Laudrup, Guidolin, Clements and Carvalhal stated players were targeted but did not want to come to Swansea (Jenkins, Birch and Pearlman have also be heard to say the same).
Reality check - the club won't fail because of prudent ownership it will be down to fans staying away and others believing we have a god given right to be in the Premier League.
Last season we finished 12th in the second tier of the English pyramid. A feat we have only bettered 12 times in our history with 2 of those being relegations from the top league). |
"Last season we finished 12th in the second tier of the English pyramid. A feat we have only bettered 12 times in our history with 2 of those being relegations from the top league". 
It's been bettered at least 23 times and counting ... Incl our 2 relegations from the top league !! |  |
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| McBurnie to Sheffield Utd/Brighton for £12 million? on 11:48 - Jun 23 with 2090 views | Nortbankboy |
| McBurnie to Sheffield Utd/Brighton for £12 million? on 22:50 - Jun 22 by TNT |
Maybe Huw and his crony sellouts would just like to fill what's left of the black hole... after all, he / they created the fuker. |
Well selling Dan James and mcbernie,for £28 mill profit is a good start | | | |
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| McBurnie to Sheffield Utd/Brighton for £12 million? on 11:50 - Jun 23 with 2090 views | dobjack2 |
| McBurnie to Sheffield Utd/Brighton for £12 million? on 09:33 - Jun 23 by Badlands |
No one wants to pay the wages the Ayews or Borja currently receive let alone offer any money for them. And, there is no one interested in buying the Swans let lone at a price that would come close to the sum paid by the Americans for their shares.
AAB (plus Bony, Clucas, Mesa, Sanches, Abraham) were brought in very high costs in order to keep us in the PL. No penny pinching there or buying with a view to making a 'quick buck'. Some players were bought cheaply (relatively) in order to get value for money and possibly a profit when they leave - whatever will football clubs do next????? But the naysayers ignore the £130 million spent on transfers trying to stay in the Premier League from 2016 - 18.
That £130 million does not include wages.
Why were the costs so high?
Because as Laudrup, Guidolin, Clements and Carvalhal stated players were targeted but did not want to come to Swansea (Jenkins, Birch and Pearlman have also be heard to say the same).
Reality check - the club won't fail because of prudent ownership it will be down to fans staying away and others believing we have a god given right to be in the Premier League.
Last season we finished 12th in the second tier of the English pyramid. A feat we have only bettered 12 times in our history with 2 of those being relegations from the top league). |
The problem wasn’t how much we spent but the way we spent it and who we spent it in.
Our financial downfall was looking to sign players who were coming here for the wrong reasons I.e. ££££ not hungry players who wanted to play in the premier league and suited our possessions style of football.
The death of the “Swansea Way” under Monk led to the lazy and expensive recruitment led by Jenkins.
We are not alone Man Utd lost their style of play, have recruited badly and can’t get rid of Sanchez because of the stupid wages that they gave him. However they have the finances to rebuild without firesales and relegation. | | | |
| McBurnie to Sheffield Utd/Brighton for £12 million? on 12:02 - Jun 23 with 2060 views | Nortbankboy |
| McBurnie to Sheffield Utd/Brighton for £12 million? on 11:50 - Jun 23 by dobjack2 |
The problem wasn’t how much we spent but the way we spent it and who we spent it in.
Our financial downfall was looking to sign players who were coming here for the wrong reasons I.e. ££££ not hungry players who wanted to play in the premier league and suited our possessions style of football.
The death of the “Swansea Way” under Monk led to the lazy and expensive recruitment led by Jenkins.
We are not alone Man Utd lost their style of play, have recruited badly and can’t get rid of Sanchez because of the stupid wages that they gave him. However they have the finances to rebuild without firesales and relegation. |
I think we all need to move on.you never get every signing right.
For every Baston there's a dan james,
For every clucus there's a siggy.
There's seems to be fans on here that enjoy moaning.
And causing a negative atmosphere.
It would be nice if we can forget about the past and get behind the club
Support us club through thick and thin | | | |
| McBurnie to Sheffield Utd/Brighton for £12 million? on 12:03 - Jun 23 with 2063 views | airedale |
| McBurnie to Sheffield Utd/Brighton for £12 million? on 20:39 - Jun 22 by Brynmill_Jack |
He was singing it I reckon |
To the tune ‘Fanfare for the Comma Man’. |  | | |
| McBurnie to Sheffield Utd/Brighton for £12 million? on 12:09 - Jun 23 with 2047 views | jack247 |
| McBurnie to Sheffield Utd/Brighton for £12 million? on 12:02 - Jun 23 by Nortbankboy |
I think we all need to move on.you never get every signing right.
For every Baston there's a dan james,
For every clucus there's a siggy.
There's seems to be fans on here that enjoy moaning.
And causing a negative atmosphere.
It would be nice if we can forget about the past and get behind the club
Support us club through thick and thin |
No there’s not, not even close.
Everyone on here loves the club. That’s exactly the reason a lot of us don’t like the owners. | | | |
| McBurnie to Sheffield Utd/Brighton for £12 million? on 12:13 - Jun 23 with 2037 views | swancity |
| McBurnie to Sheffield Utd/Brighton for £12 million? on 12:02 - Jun 23 by Nortbankboy |
I think we all need to move on.you never get every signing right.
For every Baston there's a dan james,
For every clucus there's a siggy.
There's seems to be fans on here that enjoy moaning.
And causing a negative atmosphere.
It would be nice if we can forget about the past and get behind the club
Support us club through thick and thin |
If only life and football was that simple....
The (recent) determines the immediate and longer term future so you cannot and should not forget it. Especially in view of what's happened. To learn from it, deal with it, get what's yours then move on. With new motivation. | |
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| McBurnie to Sheffield Utd/Brighton for £12 million? on 12:19 - Jun 23 with 2013 views | Nortbankboy |
| McBurnie to Sheffield Utd/Brighton for £12 million? on 12:09 - Jun 23 by jack247 |
No there’s not, not even close.
Everyone on here loves the club. That’s exactly the reason a lot of us don’t like the owners. |
You make list,of,the bad signings
And I'll make list of the good signings | | | |
| McBurnie to Sheffield Utd/Brighton for £12 million? on 12:31 - Jun 23 with 1997 views | Badlands |
| McBurnie to Sheffield Utd/Brighton for £12 million? on 11:50 - Jun 23 by dobjack2 |
The problem wasn’t how much we spent but the way we spent it and who we spent it in.
Our financial downfall was looking to sign players who were coming here for the wrong reasons I.e. ££££ not hungry players who wanted to play in the premier league and suited our possessions style of football.
The death of the “Swansea Way” under Monk led to the lazy and expensive recruitment led by Jenkins.
We are not alone Man Utd lost their style of play, have recruited badly and can’t get rid of Sanchez because of the stupid wages that they gave him. However they have the finances to rebuild without firesales and relegation. |
Agree, agree, agree. |  |
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| McBurnie to Sheffield Utd/Brighton for £12 million? on 12:34 - Jun 23 with 1982 views | giantstoneater |
| McBurnie to Sheffield Utd/Brighton for £12 million? on 12:02 - Jun 23 by Nortbankboy |
I think we all need to move on.you never get every signing right.
For every Baston there's a dan james,
For every clucus there's a siggy.
There's seems to be fans on here that enjoy moaning.
And causing a negative atmosphere.
It would be nice if we can forget about the past and get behind the club
Support us club through thick and thin |
The past and club history is where you learn not to repeat the same mistakes over and over again. We have a young squad as it is selling our best asset will only send out the wrong signals to the other promising young players that the club has no ambition. Birch, will know that to sell your top goalscorer he will have to be replace by better or at least as good or we are doomed to relegation and will be feeding another deeper black hole! |  | | |
| McBurnie to Sheffield Utd/Brighton for £12 million? on 13:19 - Jun 23 with 1911 views | Treforys_Jack |
| McBurnie to Sheffield Utd/Brighton for £12 million? on 12:19 - Jun 23 by Nortbankboy |
You make list,of,the bad signings
And I'll make list of the good signings |
Not over the last 3yrs you wouldn't. |  | | |
| McBurnie to Sheffield Utd/Brighton for £12 million? on 13:25 - Jun 23 with 1892 views | jack247 |
| McBurnie to Sheffield Utd/Brighton for £12 million? on 12:19 - Jun 23 by Nortbankboy |
You make list,of,the bad signings
And I'll make list of the good signings |
You’re missing the point. Selling James for £15m doesn’t cancel out buying Baston for £15m. We’ve been paying the wasters inflated wages for 3 years.
I’m not going to dispute there were a raft of brilliant signings from the MartÃnez through to the Laudrup era. No one is really questioning anything up until Monks appointment.
I’m more than happy to play that game from the moment the Americans got here if you want. | | | |
| McBurnie to Sheffield Utd/Brighton for £12 million? on 13:36 - Jun 23 with 1874 views | jasper_T |
| McBurnie to Sheffield Utd/Brighton for £12 million? on 13:25 - Jun 23 by jack247 |
You’re missing the point. Selling James for £15m doesn’t cancel out buying Baston for £15m. We’ve been paying the wasters inflated wages for 3 years.
I’m not going to dispute there were a raft of brilliant signings from the MartÃnez through to the Laudrup era. No one is really questioning anything up until Monks appointment.
I’m more than happy to play that game from the moment the Americans got here if you want. |
Why only from then? Jenkins was in charge a long while before that. | | | |
| McBurnie to Sheffield Utd/Brighton for £12 million? on 13:42 - Jun 23 with 1860 views | jack247 |
| McBurnie to Sheffield Utd/Brighton for £12 million? on 13:36 - Jun 23 by jasper_T |
Why only from then? Jenkins was in charge a long while before that. |
Because this isn’t a discussion about Jenkins.
He’s gone. The Americans are in charge and the club has been run like a shitshow from the moment they got here. | | | |
| McBurnie to Sheffield Utd/Brighton for £12 million? on 13:50 - Jun 23 with 1841 views | jasper_T |
| McBurnie to Sheffield Utd/Brighton for £12 million? on 13:42 - Jun 23 by jack247 |
Because this isn’t a discussion about Jenkins.
He’s gone. The Americans are in charge and the club has been run like a shitshow from the moment they got here. |
Easier to blame them for everything when you pretend they were the only actors and everything was sunshine and roses before they arrived, I suppose. | | | |
| McBurnie to Sheffield Utd/Brighton for £12 million? on 13:56 - Jun 23 with 1813 views | jack247 |
| McBurnie to Sheffield Utd/Brighton for £12 million? on 13:50 - Jun 23 by jasper_T |
Easier to blame them for everything when you pretend they were the only actors and everything was sunshine and roses before they arrived, I suppose. |
You’ve got this odd habit of reading things no one wrote.
I said the club has been run like a shitshow since they got here. You took that as me saying it was a smoothly oiled machine up until then. | | | |
| McBurnie to Sheffield Utd/Brighton for £12 million? on 14:42 - Jun 23 with 1714 views | jasper_T |
| McBurnie to Sheffield Utd/Brighton for £12 million? on 13:56 - Jun 23 by jack247 |
You’ve got this odd habit of reading things no one wrote.
I said the club has been run like a shitshow since they got here. You took that as me saying it was a smoothly oiled machine up until then. |
The fact that the club was a shitshow for a few years before they arrived is pretty significant to the argument you're making. The club didn't go downhill "from the moment they got here", it was already careening down a slope with faulty brakes. Always hard up for cash, in bed with dodgy agents, expensive tastes in players with mixed on field results. Decisions made with a closer eye on the sale value/potential of the business than the football team.
You can't just say "this isn't about Jenkins, he's gone". He was chairman for all the recent bad years, pre and post share sale, and (perhaps ironically) his DJ deal saviour moment shows just how much power he still wielded day to day.
The new chairman is doing a good job so far, with the dastardly Americans in charge. | | | |
| McBurnie to Sheffield Utd/Brighton for £12 million? on 15:00 - Jun 23 with 1683 views | Swanseaman |
| McBurnie to Sheffield Utd/Brighton for £12 million? on 12:34 - Jun 23 by giantstoneater |
The past and club history is where you learn not to repeat the same mistakes over and over again. We have a young squad as it is selling our best asset will only send out the wrong signals to the other promising young players that the club has no ambition. Birch, will know that to sell your top goalscorer he will have to be replace by better or at least as good or we are doomed to relegation and will be feeding another deeper black hole! |
some do just keep making the same mistakes over and over again, and they never learn the lesson.
At the moment we have become a selling club, it could be that any decent offer for any player and we would sell. But the whole point in developing players is to increase their value, so selling them too early is like throwing money away.
it doesn't surprise me (although it should) that there are many posters here who think it's a great idea to sell out top goalscorer and that we will be okay doing this.
When Llorente and Sigurdson were on the verge of being sold, I felt I was the only one saying that it was a bad idea. Now we are probably going to do the same thing again, even though there will obviously be a relegation risk if we don't manage to replace well.
McBurnie is improving year on year, this season he may improve again, players peak at around 27, there is no urgent need to sell and there is a chance that he could increase in value if we kept him.
We will probably sell him though, and everyone will be happy we've made some money to pay our debts - while some celebrate we have solt our top goalscorer, I will be gutted to be witnessing history repeating itself again.
When the club starts to say 'no we are not selling our best players', and they find other ways to make the money back, that will show that we are heading in the right direction. This happened to us not long before we got promoted to the premiership, we stopped selling our best players and it paid off for us.
so I think it's not worth the risk of relegation selling McBurnie and seeing us getting deeper in trouble (do the yanks really want their shares to devalue further). |  |
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| McBurnie to Sheffield Utd/Brighton for £12 million? on 15:05 - Jun 23 with 1664 views | swan65split |
| McBurnie to Sheffield Utd/Brighton for £12 million? on 15:00 - Jun 23 by Swanseaman |
some do just keep making the same mistakes over and over again, and they never learn the lesson.
At the moment we have become a selling club, it could be that any decent offer for any player and we would sell. But the whole point in developing players is to increase their value, so selling them too early is like throwing money away.
it doesn't surprise me (although it should) that there are many posters here who think it's a great idea to sell out top goalscorer and that we will be okay doing this.
When Llorente and Sigurdson were on the verge of being sold, I felt I was the only one saying that it was a bad idea. Now we are probably going to do the same thing again, even though there will obviously be a relegation risk if we don't manage to replace well.
McBurnie is improving year on year, this season he may improve again, players peak at around 27, there is no urgent need to sell and there is a chance that he could increase in value if we kept him.
We will probably sell him though, and everyone will be happy we've made some money to pay our debts - while some celebrate we have solt our top goalscorer, I will be gutted to be witnessing history repeating itself again.
When the club starts to say 'no we are not selling our best players', and they find other ways to make the money back, that will show that we are heading in the right direction. This happened to us not long before we got promoted to the premiership, we stopped selling our best players and it paid off for us.
so I think it's not worth the risk of relegation selling McBurnie and seeing us getting deeper in trouble (do the yanks really want their shares to devalue further). |
"When Llorente and Sigurdson were on the verge of being sold, I felt I was the only one saying that it was a bad idea. "
No you werent , same here.
"We will probably sell him though, and everyone will be happy we've made some money to pay our debts -"
Yep probably, but chances are in a few years we will have debts again!!! | | | |
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