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The Welsh Assembly (Government) 21:47 - Aug 6 with 8618 viewskeeponrockin

How do they get away with it?

Genuinely?

Their record is absolutely appalling yet what happens? The same people are voted in and all they ever argue about is MORE powers.

Education/Health are an absolute shambles - they Centralise everything in Cardiff and we tumble in every ranking.

At least with the Scottish Gov there is some level of talent & competence. Yet nothing changes, the next election will no doubt see the same old glorified councillors running huge departments and simply hopping from one role to another.

They miss targets in pretty much every area, what do they do? Try to reform and sort things out? No they either scrap the target completely or change the target.

It's a bloody outrage but we seem to just accept second rate. I don't get this Country at times.
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The Welsh Assembly (Government) on 21:57 - Aug 6 with 5167 viewsBanosswan

They're currently arguing with Westminster over who should pay for their Cardiff metro idea, because 'we' need improved public transport. How about improving public transport in South West Wales? It takes over 90 minutes to get from Ystradgynlais to swansea uni. I'm sure it's the same in the neath valley and even worse further west.

Ever since my son was... never conceived, because I've never had consensual sex without money involved... I've always kind of looked at you as... a thing, that I could live next to... in accordance with state laws.
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The Welsh Assembly (Government) on 22:04 - Aug 6 with 5153 viewsNOTRAC

When one considers that they are now contemplating £1billion,yes £1 billion,to improve the Newport link of the M4.
The Assembly should never have been centred in Cardiff.
It is a Cardiff Assembly not a Welsh Assembly.

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The Welsh Assembly (Government) on 22:11 - Aug 6 with 5142 viewsJackofdreambeach

Its appears a Cardiff chamber of commerce . Scandalous really.
AM,s have let the side down. No voice for Swansea. No
Regeneration strategy. Combine the Cardiff assembly
with a rather stuffy ,slow and inward thinking
Council and you can see why no significant public or private sector
Investment has been made in Swansea centre
for 30 years
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The Welsh Assembly (Government) on 22:49 - Aug 6 with 5086 viewsKilkennyjack

I think its called the Welsh Government. It could be worse mind, we could have people who launch illegal wars, fiddle expense claims, have expensive nuclear weapons we will never use, impose a bedroom tax, attack public sector workers, go back on promises made to students, stand against Europe - and only appoint lads from Eton. Just saying like....

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The Welsh Assembly (Government) on 23:28 - Aug 6 with 5067 viewsBanosswan

The Welsh Assembly (Government) on 22:49 - Aug 6 by Kilkennyjack

I think its called the Welsh Government. It could be worse mind, we could have people who launch illegal wars, fiddle expense claims, have expensive nuclear weapons we will never use, impose a bedroom tax, attack public sector workers, go back on promises made to students, stand against Europe - and only appoint lads from Eton. Just saying like....


Yawn

Ever since my son was... never conceived, because I've never had consensual sex without money involved... I've always kind of looked at you as... a thing, that I could live next to... in accordance with state laws.
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The Welsh Assembly (Government) on 06:22 - Aug 7 with 5026 viewsDr_Winston

The Welsh Assembly (Government) on 22:04 - Aug 6 by NOTRAC

When one considers that they are now contemplating £1billion,yes £1 billion,to improve the Newport link of the M4.
The Assembly should never have been centred in Cardiff.
It is a Cardiff Assembly not a Welsh Assembly.


Blame the morons in Swansea who voted yes.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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The Welsh Assembly (Government) on 09:04 - Aug 7 with 4982 viewsClinton

Can we have another vote to see if we want to scrap the Assembly now we've seen it in action?
It would save a load of money.

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The Welsh Assembly (Government) on 17:29 - Aug 7 with 4890 viewsjohnlangy

If you consider the people running an organisation to be fools you don't get rid of the organisation, you get rid of the fools. I consider the Westminster government to be a bunch of self serving posh boys. I don't say scrap Westminster, I say get rid of the tories.

These days i've got very little regard for any politician. They are all much the same. When I consider who i'll vote for in the WAG these days I just think who is the least worst. However much they deny it Labour, the Conservatives and the Lib Dems are all in thrall to their National party in London. The only party in Wales that is not is Plaid Cymru.

They'll all say they'll do their best for Wales but the others will follow London based policies. If a Plaid person says it I believe them. What else are they going to do ?

Now you may say I wouldn't want Leanne Wood running the Assembly but plenty of you are saying you don't want Carwyn Jones running it either. So what do you want ? You either change your vote or get more of the same.

Many, many posters complain about the WAG being Cardiff centric. After the billions of our money that's been poured into the place over the last 20 or more years, now that they are going to be able to borrow money the first thing is going to be the M4 relief road, THEN it will be the electrification of the valleys rail lines, THEN it will be the shuttle/tram system and so on. All of which borrowed money we'll be paying for while even more wealth flows into Cardiff as a result of those transport improvements. Banosswan says it takes 90 minutes to get from Ystradgynlais to Swansea Uni. Wouldn't it be nice if we had an integrated Transport system. Some bloody chance.

And these projects WILL happen because Labour will get voted in again and again and their power base is mainly South and South East Wales so they will just carry on. Plaid's power base is North and West and scatterings around South West. What would they do ? Would they carry on pouring money into Cardiff or would they ensure investment in Anglesey and Ceredigion and Carmarthen ? Put simply they would have to spread spending around otherwise they would be out on their arses after one term.

Like it or not nothing's going to change until we change it.
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The Welsh Assembly (Government) on 17:54 - Aug 7 with 4856 viewsKilkennyjack

John - totally agree.

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The Welsh Assembly (Government) on 18:04 - Aug 7 with 4846 viewsskippyjack

They pour money into Cardiff because they're told.. it's obvious.. London will give them promises for doing so.. they work together these assemblies.. They've upset Scotland though.

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The Welsh Assembly (Government) on 18:09 - Aug 7 with 4836 viewsjohnlangy

The Welsh Assembly (Government) on 18:04 - Aug 7 by skippyjack

They pour money into Cardiff because they're told.. it's obvious.. London will give them promises for doing so.. they work together these assemblies.. They've upset Scotland though.


And what will you do to change it ?
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The Welsh Assembly (Government) on 18:11 - Aug 7 with 4832 viewsskippyjack

The Welsh Assembly (Government) on 18:09 - Aug 7 by johnlangy

And what will you do to change it ?


Set up a party that will be ridiculed and abolished by the hierarchy.. for f*cking with them.. 'legally' of course.

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The Welsh Assembly (Government) on 18:30 - Aug 7 with 4811 viewstrampie

The Welsh Assembly (Government) on 17:29 - Aug 7 by johnlangy

If you consider the people running an organisation to be fools you don't get rid of the organisation, you get rid of the fools. I consider the Westminster government to be a bunch of self serving posh boys. I don't say scrap Westminster, I say get rid of the tories.

These days i've got very little regard for any politician. They are all much the same. When I consider who i'll vote for in the WAG these days I just think who is the least worst. However much they deny it Labour, the Conservatives and the Lib Dems are all in thrall to their National party in London. The only party in Wales that is not is Plaid Cymru.

They'll all say they'll do their best for Wales but the others will follow London based policies. If a Plaid person says it I believe them. What else are they going to do ?

Now you may say I wouldn't want Leanne Wood running the Assembly but plenty of you are saying you don't want Carwyn Jones running it either. So what do you want ? You either change your vote or get more of the same.

Many, many posters complain about the WAG being Cardiff centric. After the billions of our money that's been poured into the place over the last 20 or more years, now that they are going to be able to borrow money the first thing is going to be the M4 relief road, THEN it will be the electrification of the valleys rail lines, THEN it will be the shuttle/tram system and so on. All of which borrowed money we'll be paying for while even more wealth flows into Cardiff as a result of those transport improvements. Banosswan says it takes 90 minutes to get from Ystradgynlais to Swansea Uni. Wouldn't it be nice if we had an integrated Transport system. Some bloody chance.

And these projects WILL happen because Labour will get voted in again and again and their power base is mainly South and South East Wales so they will just carry on. Plaid's power base is North and West and scatterings around South West. What would they do ? Would they carry on pouring money into Cardiff or would they ensure investment in Anglesey and Ceredigion and Carmarthen ? Put simply they would have to spread spending around otherwise they would be out on their arses after one term.

Like it or not nothing's going to change until we change it.


Exactly John.

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The Welsh Assembly (Government) on 18:33 - Aug 7 with 4806 viewswaynekerr55

The Welsh Assembly (Government) on 22:49 - Aug 6 by Kilkennyjack

I think its called the Welsh Government. It could be worse mind, we could have people who launch illegal wars, fiddle expense claims, have expensive nuclear weapons we will never use, impose a bedroom tax, attack public sector workers, go back on promises made to students, stand against Europe - and only appoint lads from Eton. Just saying like....


Mr KJ you make some erstwhile points, but please do not refer to the bedroom tax as a tax as it isn't a tax!

I agree that Westminster has a lot to improve upon, but f*ck me the clowns in the bay do take the biscuit!

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The Welsh Assembly (Government) on 18:41 - Aug 7 with 4795 viewsreddythered

The Newport relief road is hardly just to benefit Cardiff... it's an absolute nightmare driving around that area. If you're a business, with the traffic snarl ups would you consider relocating to Cardiff, Bridgend, Swansea?

Education and health are appalling - but don't claim it's so Cardiff can benefit. My youngest has development problems - age 4, more like a 2 year old. Originally believed to be autism, now seems it's development delays. His head measurement is pretty low on the percentile chart, meaning the brain isn't growing neessarily as it should.

This problem could well have been spotted earlier but for doctors, health visitors failing to bother either taking the measurement or writing it down.

His school? At primary level can't expect great things - he goes to a dedicated school in September - but his one to one helper? A 19 yr old. About to go to Uni caused us great entertainment, given she couldn't spell for s***.

Hospitals? I could list the problems we've encountered as a family, my elderly dad, myself and my wife who suffers from a long term medical illness, sadly not curable. There wouldn't be enough time for everyone to read all the f*** ups made.

It's like anything else - yes, the WAG is absolutely garbage, performing as anyone with a brain cell could predict given the Labour dominance ( and the quality of politician in Wales these days ), but there's incompetence at all levels of the public sector.

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The Welsh Assembly (Government) on 18:44 - Aug 7 with 4788 viewstrampie

The Welsh Assembly (Government) on 18:41 - Aug 7 by reddythered

The Newport relief road is hardly just to benefit Cardiff... it's an absolute nightmare driving around that area. If you're a business, with the traffic snarl ups would you consider relocating to Cardiff, Bridgend, Swansea?

Education and health are appalling - but don't claim it's so Cardiff can benefit. My youngest has development problems - age 4, more like a 2 year old. Originally believed to be autism, now seems it's development delays. His head measurement is pretty low on the percentile chart, meaning the brain isn't growing neessarily as it should.

This problem could well have been spotted earlier but for doctors, health visitors failing to bother either taking the measurement or writing it down.

His school? At primary level can't expect great things - he goes to a dedicated school in September - but his one to one helper? A 19 yr old. About to go to Uni caused us great entertainment, given she couldn't spell for s***.

Hospitals? I could list the problems we've encountered as a family, my elderly dad, myself and my wife who suffers from a long term medical illness, sadly not curable. There wouldn't be enough time for everyone to read all the f*** ups made.

It's like anything else - yes, the WAG is absolutely garbage, performing as anyone with a brain cell could predict given the Labour dominance ( and the quality of politician in Wales these days ), but there's incompetence at all levels of the public sector.


There is no money in the system 'red', its in the pockets of the well off.

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The Welsh Assembly (Government) on 19:06 - Aug 7 with 4776 viewsreddythered

The Welsh Assembly (Government) on 18:44 - Aug 7 by trampie

There is no money in the system 'red', its in the pockets of the well off.


With all due respect, that's socialist bollocks.

NHS, education have had money spent on them, more than in a lot of better performing nations. WAG have cut NHS spending, a little fact Labour seem to want to conveniently ignore.

Throwing money at NHS, education isn't solving the problem.

The fact remains that the mantra seems to be "front line staff in NHS immense angels, can never be criticised". Some are great. There are also a lot of incompetent staff within the NHS who remain in their jobs.

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The Welsh Assembly (Government) on 19:07 - Aug 7 with 4774 viewsexiledclaseboy

Only slightly off-topic, but the Welsh Assembly and Scottish Parliament are the two most democratic elected institutions in the UK. Much more chance of changing things there than there is at Westminster, which is the antithesis of democracy. The problem with Labour haters is that because Labour is in power in the assembly, they transfer that hatred to the institution itself. If their Tory boys were running it, it would be the greatest institution on earth. Idiotic view of theirs, but there you have it.

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The Welsh Assembly (Government) on 19:13 - Aug 7 with 4763 viewstrampie

The Welsh Assembly (Government) on 19:06 - Aug 7 by reddythered

With all due respect, that's socialist bollocks.

NHS, education have had money spent on them, more than in a lot of better performing nations. WAG have cut NHS spending, a little fact Labour seem to want to conveniently ignore.

Throwing money at NHS, education isn't solving the problem.

The fact remains that the mantra seems to be "front line staff in NHS immense angels, can never be criticised". Some are great. There are also a lot of incompetent staff within the NHS who remain in their jobs.


You say the NHS has had money spent on it but Labour WAG has cut spending on the NHS ?

That's a very confused picture you paint there 'red', along with some NHS staff are great and some incompetent.

You are a proper fence sitter you are aren't you.

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The Welsh Assembly (Government) on 19:17 - Aug 7 with 4754 viewsexiledclaseboy

The Welsh Assembly (Government) on 19:13 - Aug 7 by trampie

You say the NHS has had money spent on it but Labour WAG has cut spending on the NHS ?

That's a very confused picture you paint there 'red', along with some NHS staff are great and some incompetent.

You are a proper fence sitter you are aren't you.


NHS spending has indeed been cut in Wales, tying in with the cut in the funding Wales receives from Westminster.

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The Welsh Assembly (Government) on 19:25 - Aug 7 with 4738 viewstrampie

The Welsh Assembly (Government) on 19:17 - Aug 7 by exiledclaseboy

NHS spending has indeed been cut in Wales, tying in with the cut in the funding Wales receives from Westminster.


The theory is they put more money in your pocket so you pay for your own health services as opposed to it coming from a central pot, better hope we don't fall ill too often and with nothing too expensive to treat.

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The Welsh Assembly (Government) on 19:31 - Aug 7 with 4725 viewsskippyjack

The Welsh Assembly (Government) on 19:06 - Aug 7 by reddythered

With all due respect, that's socialist bollocks.

NHS, education have had money spent on them, more than in a lot of better performing nations. WAG have cut NHS spending, a little fact Labour seem to want to conveniently ignore.

Throwing money at NHS, education isn't solving the problem.

The fact remains that the mantra seems to be "front line staff in NHS immense angels, can never be criticised". Some are great. There are also a lot of incompetent staff within the NHS who remain in their jobs.


People in the NHS are humans..
they're not paid well enough.. over worked
Civil servants not paid well enough.. over worked
Police force not paid well enough.. over worked
Teachers not paid well enough.. over worked
Lecturers not paid well enough.. over worked
Labourers not paid well enough.. over worked
Every normal job in the world not paid well enough.. over worked


Unemployed don't get paid.. Don't work.. but observe the sheer f*ckwitery that's going on.. while shaking their heads.


Politicians paid well enough.. not over worked
Bankers paid well enough.. not over worked
Sports people paid well enough.. do they work?
Actors paid well enough.. not over worked
Benefit scroungers paid well enough.. Don't work
Musicians paid well enough.. not over worked
Actors paid well enough.. not over worked
Celebrity paid well enough.. it's not really a job.. they don't work.

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The Welsh Assembly (Government) on 19:39 - Aug 7 with 4710 viewstrampie

Police, teachers, lecturers and some civil servants are overpaid and should be taxed accordingly [and not forgetting doctors are overpaid as well] .
[Post edited 7 Aug 2014 19:41]

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The Welsh Assembly (Government) on 19:43 - Aug 7 with 4702 viewsexiledclaseboy

The Welsh Assembly (Government) on 19:39 - Aug 7 by trampie

Police, teachers, lecturers and some civil servants are overpaid and should be taxed accordingly [and not forgetting doctors are overpaid as well] .
[Post edited 7 Aug 2014 19:41]


What do you consider to be "overpaid", trampie? And what rate of income tax would you levy on someone earning, say, £35k per year?

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The Welsh Assembly (Government) on 19:51 - Aug 7 with 4687 viewswaynekerr55

The Welsh Assembly (Government) on 19:39 - Aug 7 by trampie

Police, teachers, lecturers and some civil servants are overpaid and should be taxed accordingly [and not forgetting doctors are overpaid as well] .
[Post edited 7 Aug 2014 19:41]


Wow - just wow!

Tell that to them in the South East where they can't buy homes and instead pay ridiculous rents!

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