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Non Crime Hate Speech 21:46 - Nov 15 with 818 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Both Reeves and Badenoch have said today that the police are wasting their time investigating hurty words on line.

What the green banana cherry trifle is going on? Is there not enough real crime that the police are now branching out into non-crime?

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Non Crime Hate Speech on 22:51 - Nov 15 with 749 viewsBoundy

Some one forgot to tell the police

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/schoolboy-9-among-thousands-investigated-f

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Non Crime Hate Speech on 23:02 - Nov 15 with 743 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Non Crime Hate Speech on 22:51 - Nov 15 by Boundy

Some one forgot to tell the police

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/schoolboy-9-among-thousands-investigated-f


This sounds like Monty Python, " Police are investigating a schoolgirl who claimed a classmate smelled like a fish ".

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Non Crime Hate Speech on 10:01 - Nov 16 with 682 viewsonehunglow

Sorry but listen

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Non Crime Hate Speech on 10:09 - Nov 16 with 670 viewsSullutaCreturned

Non Crime Hate Speech on 23:02 - Nov 15 by JACKMANANDBOY

This sounds like Monty Python, " Police are investigating a schoolgirl who claimed a classmate smelled like a fish ".


And what if she did smell of fish? It's possible, is it really a hate "non crime"?

Besides the obvious that yes, they shouldn't be investigating NON crimes when there atre pletny of crimes they don't investigate.

The world continues to get more absurd.
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Non Crime Hate Speech on 10:19 - Nov 16 with 660 viewscontroversial_jack

What business is it of the police if it's not a crime?
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Non Crime Hate Speech on 10:40 - Nov 16 with 646 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Non Crime Hate Speech on 10:19 - Nov 16 by controversial_jack

What business is it of the police if it's not a crime?


We all they are investigating non crime and if you are found not guilty of a non crime it goes on your record that you have been investigated and so appears on any disclosure and barring check done on you in the future.

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Non Crime Hate Speech on 11:17 - Nov 16 with 633 viewscontroversial_jack

Non Crime Hate Speech on 10:40 - Nov 16 by JACKMANANDBOY

We all they are investigating non crime and if you are found not guilty of a non crime it goes on your record that you have been investigated and so appears on any disclosure and barring check done on you in the future.


How can they investigate a non crime, or a non event, when there's nothing to investigate? You also can't be found not guilty of something that didn't occur. It's as if they are abusing any authority which they think they have. Police have no authority over anyone unless a law has been broken. This is one of the reasons that I don't have much time for them
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Non Crime Hate Speech on 11:29 - Nov 16 with 625 viewsAnotherJohn

Non Crime Hate Speech on 10:40 - Nov 16 by JACKMANANDBOY

We all they are investigating non crime and if you are found not guilty of a non crime it goes on your record that you have been investigated and so appears on any disclosure and barring check done on you in the future.


That is the disturbing thing: there is the possibility that the mere investigation of an alleged non-crime, even where no "hate speech" was found, can disadvantage the accused person in future.
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Non Crime Hate Speech on 14:23 - Nov 16 with 583 viewsmajorraglan

Non Crime Hate Speech on 11:29 - Nov 16 by AnotherJohn

That is the disturbing thing: there is the possibility that the mere investigation of an alleged non-crime, even where no "hate speech" was found, can disadvantage the accused person in future.


The driver for the investigations is linked into guidance from issued by the College of Policing who are the Home Office’s proxy for all things policing. The original article states the
“Government guidance says that NCHIs are only supposed to be recorded by police when they are “clearly motivated by intentional hostility” and could result in further escalation.” Which is sensible, but it’s clear objectivity is being lost in the real world.
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Non Crime Hate Speech on 14:42 - Nov 16 with 564 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Non Crime Hate Speech on 14:23 - Nov 16 by majorraglan

The driver for the investigations is linked into guidance from issued by the College of Policing who are the Home Office’s proxy for all things policing. The original article states the
“Government guidance says that NCHIs are only supposed to be recorded by police when they are “clearly motivated by intentional hostility” and could result in further escalation.” Which is sensible, but it’s clear objectivity is being lost in the real world.


I think there is clear subjectivity here, particularly around the words ' could result in further escalation '.
Imagine having your life chances affected by someone's subjectivity when you have not committed an offence.

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Non Crime Hate Speech on 15:47 - Nov 16 with 546 viewsmajorraglan

Non Crime Hate Speech on 14:42 - Nov 16 by JACKMANANDBOY

I think there is clear subjectivity here, particularly around the words ' could result in further escalation '.
Imagine having your life chances affected by someone's subjectivity when you have not committed an offence.


I agree with you. Police forces are being caught between a rock and a hard place, if they don’t record the incident they’ll get hammered by HMIC and get accused of “cuffing” with the inevitable accusations they’re potentially missing out on catching the next Wayne Cousens character and at the other end of the scale there’s the risk of potentially criminalising people.
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Non Crime Hate Speech on 15:50 - Nov 16 with 546 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

A politician in Germany has filed a criminal complaint against a bloke who called him an idiot on the internet.

Very scary times.

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Non Crime Hate Speech on 16:27 - Nov 16 with 532 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Non Crime Hate Speech on 15:50 - Nov 16 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

A politician in Germany has filed a criminal complaint against a bloke who called him an idiot on the internet.

Very scary times.


Looks like the bloke was correct.

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Non Crime Hate Speech on 18:58 - Nov 21 with 351 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Essex police stand down, this whole issue needs a proper review.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3rxy8727z2o

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