| Slavia Prague v QPR on 19:31 - Jul 8 with 3970 views | Rangersw12 |
Just seen the result , great start to pre season 👀 [Post edited 8 Jul 2023 19:32]
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| Slavia Prague v QPR on 19:32 - Jul 8 with 3969 views | daveB |
I k ow what you mean but we did make a sizeable profit on free transfer dieng today |  | | |
| Slavia Prague v QPR on 19:46 - Jul 8 with 3818 views | BushRanger82 |
| Slavia Prague v QPR on 18:36 - Jul 8 by Antti_Heinola |
I don't know how many more times people can explain on this board why they have to do that and it's not a choice. I'm not being funny, but what part of it don't you understand? |
Oh, I've seen the excuses, alright. |  | | |
| Slavia Prague v QPR on 20:00 - Jul 8 with 3718 views | hantssi |
| Slavia Prague v QPR on 18:22 - Jul 8 by BushRanger82 |
We don't have much of a squad, do we?
And we won't as long as our board of billionaires and millionaires keep going to the food bank, rather than Sainsbury's, to do their shopping. |
After all this time and countless explanations do you still not understand FFP or P&S?!
It really doesn’t matter how rich they are, we could be owned by Musk, Bezos and the Saudi PIF and we STILL couldn’t spend anymore! | | | |
| Slavia Prague v QPR on 20:19 - Jul 8 with 3622 views | qpr1976 |
| Slavia Prague v QPR on 18:22 - Jul 8 by BushRanger82 |
We don't have much of a squad, do we?
And we won't as long as our board of billionaires and millionaires keep going to the food bank, rather than Sainsbury's, to do their shopping. |
Have you heard of FFP ?
I used to like Jerry Lewis though. | | | |
| Slavia Prague v QPR on 20:53 - Jul 8 with 3404 views | DejR_vu |
| Slavia Prague v QPR on 19:26 - Jul 8 by derbyhoop |
Income is considerably less than outgoings.
That's the simple explanation. |
because the club is incapable of producing enough players to sell and maximising the value of those that are sold. | |
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| Slavia Prague v QPR on 20:55 - Jul 8 with 3377 views | numptydumpty |
Well that was a complete non event.
I went to watch us under Warburton in friendly before season, couple of years ago and we went from 1 nil down to 4 - 1 up in the second half.
Was fabulous and goals were fantastic and Utd had at least six first team regulars.
Hey ho.
Listening to Sinclair Armstrong talking in a defeatist way that the division is so much stronger this season and already wanting swap shirts with Vardy by way of hero worship.
We clearly already have a very low opinion of the possibilities of this squad.
I think Ainsworth style is to suggest if we can finish outside of the bottom six, we are massively overachieving.
I kind of agree but the last thing I would wish is the players already looking at the league in such a way !!!!
Kiddology does sometimes work !!!
And Chair being pissed off with Ainsworth not playing Sinclair when he is fit and saying it's ridiculous he is 20 years old. He doesn't need managing that much and the way Chair was chatting he is on his way I feel.
Significantly played in first half wiith the also runs, Field and Dunne excepting. [Post edited 8 Jul 2023 20:58]
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| Slavia Prague v QPR on 21:19 - Jul 8 with 3239 views | distortR |
| Slavia Prague v QPR on 20:55 - Jul 8 by numptydumpty |
Well that was a complete non event.
I went to watch us under Warburton in friendly before season, couple of years ago and we went from 1 nil down to 4 - 1 up in the second half.
Was fabulous and goals were fantastic and Utd had at least six first team regulars.
Hey ho.
Listening to Sinclair Armstrong talking in a defeatist way that the division is so much stronger this season and already wanting swap shirts with Vardy by way of hero worship.
We clearly already have a very low opinion of the possibilities of this squad.
I think Ainsworth style is to suggest if we can finish outside of the bottom six, we are massively overachieving.
I kind of agree but the last thing I would wish is the players already looking at the league in such a way !!!!
Kiddology does sometimes work !!!
And Chair being pissed off with Ainsworth not playing Sinclair when he is fit and saying it's ridiculous he is 20 years old. He doesn't need managing that much and the way Chair was chatting he is on his way I feel.
Significantly played in first half wiith the also runs, Field and Dunne excepting. [Post edited 8 Jul 2023 20:58]
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Tbh I thought Chair was throwing some banter Sinclairs way, as Smyth was doing earlier. | | | |
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| Slavia Prague v QPR on 21:27 - Jul 8 with 3200 views | lave16 |
| Slavia Prague v QPR on 21:19 - Jul 8 by distortR |
Tbh I thought Chair was throwing some banter Sinclairs way, as Smyth was doing earlier. |
Tbh realistically not being relagated is the aim. If keeper crap now we have more time to sort it - better being shocking now that brilliant in preseason and nightmare after all the deals are done. Also when I looked at the team sheet it looked more like someone had been playing Scrabble blocked than players I knew. Ooh well onwards and upwards | |
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| Slavia Prague v QPR on 07:29 - Jul 9 with 2643 views | BushRanger82 |
| Slavia Prague v QPR on 20:19 - Jul 8 by qpr1976 |
Have you heard of FFP ?
I used to like Jerry Lewis though. |
Well, of course I've heard of FFP, but the modern fetish for nannying almost every aspect of one's life, doesn't alter the fact that a football club like ours, once heading so far in the right direction, but now so off the beaten track, as to be a galaxy away from the likes of bloody Newcastle now, with billionaires and multi-millionaires in the boardroom, the richest boardroom in the club's history, acting like it is no bigger, and certainly no better, than somebody like fecking Fleetwood, is anathema to me. Always will be. And if I was a billionaire owner of QPR, nobody, but nobody, would tell me how much I could spend trying to lift this club up by it's boot straps.
Can't anybody for the life of them see, that if this absurd state of affairs carries on as it has done for the last bloody decade, we will eventually drop through the divisions and possibly end up non-league?
It is a farking ludicrous situation.
Just look at the farking squad we have today, the most piss-poor I have personally seen in over 50 years of supporting this club.
It is with great trepidation, I look forward to next season. If we drop down a division, and we still act like Oliver farking Twist, that's it, our fate will be well and truly sealed.
Phew!!! Great to get that off my chest! | | | |
| Slavia Prague v QPR on 08:28 - Jul 9 with 2493 views | dmm |
| Slavia Prague v QPR on 07:29 - Jul 9 by BushRanger82 |
Well, of course I've heard of FFP, but the modern fetish for nannying almost every aspect of one's life, doesn't alter the fact that a football club like ours, once heading so far in the right direction, but now so off the beaten track, as to be a galaxy away from the likes of bloody Newcastle now, with billionaires and multi-millionaires in the boardroom, the richest boardroom in the club's history, acting like it is no bigger, and certainly no better, than somebody like fecking Fleetwood, is anathema to me. Always will be. And if I was a billionaire owner of QPR, nobody, but nobody, would tell me how much I could spend trying to lift this club up by it's boot straps.
Can't anybody for the life of them see, that if this absurd state of affairs carries on as it has done for the last bloody decade, we will eventually drop through the divisions and possibly end up non-league?
It is a farking ludicrous situation.
Just look at the farking squad we have today, the most piss-poor I have personally seen in over 50 years of supporting this club.
It is with great trepidation, I look forward to next season. If we drop down a division, and we still act like Oliver farking Twist, that's it, our fate will be well and truly sealed.
Phew!!! Great to get that off my chest! |
I expect Dai Yongge, the billionaire owner of Reading, thought no one could tell him how much he could spend too. |  | | |
| Slavia Prague v QPR on 08:35 - Jul 9 with 2455 views | connell10 |
Why don't they just scrap FFP and just say that a owner can spend as much of their own money on a club , BUT when said owner leaves the club they have to pay off any debt incurred under their reign. Thus leaving the football club debt free. |  |
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| Slavia Prague v QPR on 08:42 - Jul 9 with 2422 views | johnhoop |
| Slavia Prague v QPR on 08:35 - Jul 9 by connell10 |
Why don't they just scrap FFP and just say that a owner can spend as much of their own money on a club , BUT when said owner leaves the club they have to pay off any debt incurred under their reign. Thus leaving the football club debt free. |
Completely agree with this Connell. The trouble is, that as I understand it, our owners have actually agreed to and voted for this financial straitjacket that is slowly strangling the life out of our club. | | | |
| Slavia Prague v QPR on 09:05 - Jul 9 with 2340 views | Gloucs_R |
| Slavia Prague v QPR on 08:42 - Jul 9 by johnhoop |
Completely agree with this Connell. The trouble is, that as I understand it, our owners have actually agreed to and voted for this financial straitjacket that is slowly strangling the life out of our club. |
Or, why don't the owners actually buy the land and build a new stadium like they promised to 10 years ago. This will increase revenue and therefore give us a larger playing budget. |  |
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| Slavia Prague v QPR on 09:51 - Jul 9 with 2208 views | E15Hoop |
| Slavia Prague v QPR on 09:05 - Jul 9 by Gloucs_R |
Or, why don't the owners actually buy the land and build a new stadium like they promised to 10 years ago. This will increase revenue and therefore give us a larger playing budget. |
Wasn't that that original plan, if i remember rightly, which is then how the whole discussions with Hammersmith and Fulham started which led to heated discussions about not being able to build on LR, the whole Oad Oak fiasco etc.?
The decision was then made to prioritise the training ground in the belief that this would be more likely to attract quality players, given that heston is ehre they're going to be spending tha majority of their time. | | | |
| Slavia Prague v QPR on 09:54 - Jul 9 with 2194 views | DejR_vu |
| Slavia Prague v QPR on 08:35 - Jul 9 by connell10 |
Why don't they just scrap FFP and just say that a owner can spend as much of their own money on a club , BUT when said owner leaves the club they have to pay off any debt incurred under their reign. Thus leaving the football club debt free. |
Because it’s working very well as it is for the ‘haves’, and it provides a convenient excuse for the ‘have nots’ who would be cr@p regardless of how much they spend (we’re living proof). | |
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| Slavia Prague v QPR on 10:10 - Jul 9 with 2125 views | eastside_r |
Back on topic, I thought we were overall pretty crap but marginally better second half. I am not going to read too much into our first pre-season friendly against a team who start their campaign imminently and are therefore much further ahead in their team development.
But as an aside, I thought Willock’s body language/ demeanour was terrible. |  | | |
| Slavia Prague v QPR on 12:02 - Jul 9 with 1915 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Slavia Prague v QPR on 19:26 - Jul 8 by derbyhoop |
Income is considerably less than outgoings.
That's the simple explanation. |
It's not 'simple' - that's my point.
You could start by considering how we just don't develop players any more depsite having more people on staff, for much longer, than most clubs, let alone sell them at a profit. The we could get onto the culture of sloppiness, inferiority, complacency and defeatism at QPR and, here's a thought, stand up and challenge it. |  |
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| Slavia Prague v QPR on 12:03 - Jul 9 with 1921 views | E15Hoop |
| Slavia Prague v QPR on 10:10 - Jul 9 by eastside_r |
Back on topic, I thought we were overall pretty crap but marginally better second half. I am not going to read too much into our first pre-season friendly against a team who start their campaign imminently and are therefore much further ahead in their team development.
But as an aside, I thought Willock’s body language/ demeanour was terrible. |
I didn't pick up on that, Eastside. although to be fair I did only see the second half.
I thought he made a few decent runs and payed some nice balls that no-one really took advantage of. There was, though, a bit of unecesaary moaning at the ref.
Thought Richards looked bright and hungry as well. | | | |
| Slavia Prague v QPR on 12:28 - Jul 9 with 1860 views | QPROslo |
| Slavia Prague v QPR on 12:03 - Jul 9 by E15Hoop |
I didn't pick up on that, Eastside. although to be fair I did only see the second half.
I thought he made a few decent runs and payed some nice balls that no-one really took advantage of. There was, though, a bit of unecesaary moaning at the ref.
Thought Richards looked bright and hungry as well. |
Willock didn't play 1st half but I also thought he and Richard's, occasionally, looked a cut above our other more offensive players. He scored a decent looking goal from a nice ball from Paal I think through their defense at the start of the half disallowed for offside, a very marginal call according to Gareth. Don't know why he moaned so much and blocked a FK for Slavia to get himself a yellow card either. [Post edited 9 Jul 2023 12:30]
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| Slavia Prague v QPR on 13:10 - Jul 9 with 1750 views | BrianWilson |
| Slavia Prague v QPR on 12:28 - Jul 9 by QPROslo |
Willock didn't play 1st half but I also thought he and Richard's, occasionally, looked a cut above our other more offensive players. He scored a decent looking goal from a nice ball from Paal I think through their defense at the start of the half disallowed for offside, a very marginal call according to Gareth. Don't know why he moaned so much and blocked a FK for Slavia to get himself a yellow card either. [Post edited 9 Jul 2023 12:30]
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Pedder, SDM and Kargbo didn't look up to the standard BUT......first game so will be keen to see how they do in next few games. |  |
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| Slavia Prague v QPR on 13:48 - Jul 9 with 1654 views | QPROslo |
| Slavia Prague v QPR on 13:10 - Jul 9 by BrianWilson |
Pedder, SDM and Kargbo didn't look up to the standard BUT......first game so will be keen to see how they do in next few games. |
From what I saw I thought Pedder looked the most likely of the young players from last seasons Development/out on loan group. I didn't see much from either Kelman or Dixon-Bonner but to be fair though the stream was good quality there was little close-in focus from the camera so maybe good or bad play went unnoticed by me anyway. | | | |
| Slavia Prague v QPR on 13:49 - Jul 9 with 1647 views | Hooping_Mad |
Richards rode the challenges better than the development guys. Looks strong enough to cut it. | |
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| Slavia Prague v QPR on 13:55 - Jul 9 with 1629 views | Antti_Heinola |
| Slavia Prague v QPR on 07:29 - Jul 9 by BushRanger82 |
Well, of course I've heard of FFP, but the modern fetish for nannying almost every aspect of one's life, doesn't alter the fact that a football club like ours, once heading so far in the right direction, but now so off the beaten track, as to be a galaxy away from the likes of bloody Newcastle now, with billionaires and multi-millionaires in the boardroom, the richest boardroom in the club's history, acting like it is no bigger, and certainly no better, than somebody like fecking Fleetwood, is anathema to me. Always will be. And if I was a billionaire owner of QPR, nobody, but nobody, would tell me how much I could spend trying to lift this club up by it's boot straps.
Can't anybody for the life of them see, that if this absurd state of affairs carries on as it has done for the last bloody decade, we will eventually drop through the divisions and possibly end up non-league?
It is a farking ludicrous situation.
Just look at the farking squad we have today, the most piss-poor I have personally seen in over 50 years of supporting this club.
It is with great trepidation, I look forward to next season. If we drop down a division, and we still act like Oliver farking Twist, that's it, our fate will be well and truly sealed.
Phew!!! Great to get that off my chest! |
I mean, I have sympathy for your frustration, believe me. I'm not sure how it's 'nannying' - the rules were brought in, supported by clubs, to make the playing field more level. For various reasons, that hasn't worked (and it should be reformed at least), but the whole reason it was brought in was because fans were fed up of Chelsea and their ilk just buying success.
They simply are not allowed to do what you say. There are loads of things we can criticise them for - and do - but not spending enough is really not one of them. |  |
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| Slavia Prague v QPR on 14:02 - Jul 9 with 1593 views | Logman |
Duke-McKenna, Bonner Dixon and Pedder were totally innocuous in the 1st half. They just bounced off the Prague players. The prague players had them completely in their pockets. Kargbo won a few good headers - he didn't look intimidated by the task which was encouraging. | | | |
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