| Chinese ballon 10:06 - Feb 5 with 8125 views | controversial_jack |
Another false flag by the Americans? Chinese can get what they want from satellites. |  | | |  |
| Chinese ballon on 16:04 - Feb 5 with 4318 views | SullutaCreturned |
Really? Then why have the Chinese been so angry that the USA shot their balloon down? | | | |
| Chinese ballon on 18:34 - Feb 5 with 4251 views | controversial_jack |
| Chinese ballon on 16:04 - Feb 5 by SullutaCreturned |
Really? Then why have the Chinese been so angry that the USA shot their balloon down? |
Because they see it as a provocation. | | | |
| Chinese ballon on 19:12 - Feb 5 with 4236 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Chinese ballon on 18:34 - Feb 5 by controversial_jack |
Because they see it as a provocation. |
So instead of calling the USA out as liars they have instead taken ownership of the balloon and complained about it being shot down. Just when you think new depths of ridiculousness can't be plumbed, along comes someone to prove you wrong.
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| Chinese ballon on 19:56 - Feb 5 with 4196 views | majorraglan |
The Americans have every right to shoot the balloon down. It may be totally innocent but there may be more to it, if it was the former I’d have thought instead of whinging the Chinese would be apologising for it going astray, but that’s just me. | | | |
| Chinese ballon on 20:17 - Feb 5 with 4186 views | Boundy |
| Chinese ballon on 19:12 - Feb 5 by SullutaCreturned |
So instead of calling the USA out as liars they have instead taken ownership of the balloon and complained about it being shot down. Just when you think new depths of ridiculousness can't be plumbed, along comes someone to prove you wrong.
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He yet again has not failed to amuse me , it's the way he tells them | |
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| Chinese ballon on 21:00 - Feb 5 with 4152 views | britferry |
the USA would never do it to any other country  | |
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| Chinese ballon on 22:39 - Feb 5 with 4109 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Chinese ballon on 21:00 - Feb 5 by britferry |
the USA would never do it to any other country |
Course they would which is why they know what it is. |  | | |
| Chinese ballon on 02:40 - Feb 6 with 4070 views | DJack |
As ever you post arrant nonsense.
As one example, spy sateilites struggle with IR due to cloud cover. The US still uses spyplanes as satellites have limitations. As an example everheard of the Open Skies Treaty?
https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/openskies
Apparently meteorological ballons have a payload of around 1.5-3m wide. This one is three buses wide! If it were one China would have officialy informed the US that they lost control of one and that it would enter US airspace in around two days time on the prevailing winds...they kept quiet and this is apparently the fourth incursion by such a large ballon, the three others during Trumps preidency. |  |
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| Chinese ballon on 09:23 - Feb 6 with 4024 views | controversial_jack |
| Chinese ballon on 19:12 - Feb 5 by SullutaCreturned |
So instead of calling the USA out as liars they have instead taken ownership of the balloon and complained about it being shot down. Just when you think new depths of ridiculousness can't be plumbed, along comes someone to prove you wrong.
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They haven't denied it's their Balloon, just not what the Americans have said it's used for | | | |
| Chinese ballon on 11:14 - Feb 6 with 4001 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Chinese ballon on 09:23 - Feb 6 by controversial_jack |
They haven't denied it's their Balloon, just not what the Americans have said it's used for |
It was you that suggested it was a false flag operation.
You really must do better, try keeping notes or maybe try not being deliberately controversial and posting nonsense. | | | |
| Chinese ballon on 11:29 - Feb 6 with 3995 views | controversial_jack |
| Chinese ballon on 11:14 - Feb 6 by SullutaCreturned |
It was you that suggested it was a false flag operation.
You really must do better, try keeping notes or maybe try not being deliberately controversial and posting nonsense. |
It was a weather, not a spy balloon is my point | | | |
| Chinese ballon on 13:04 - Feb 6 with 3962 views | majorraglan |
| Chinese ballon on 11:29 - Feb 6 by controversial_jack |
It was a weather, not a spy balloon is my point |
Allegedly a weather balloon, we’ll see what comes out in the wash. | | | |
| Chinese ballon on 13:18 - Feb 6 with 3953 views | Boundy |
| Chinese ballon on 11:29 - Feb 6 by controversial_jack |
It was a weather, not a spy balloon is my point |
Because the chinese said so , ok that'll be it nothing about your hatred of the west . | |
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| Chinese ballon on 16:08 - Feb 6 with 3915 views | KeithHaynes |
| Chinese ballon on 11:29 - Feb 6 by controversial_jack |
It was a weather, not a spy balloon is my point |
I would imagine a weather balloon contains many electrical devices for all manner of objectives. |  |
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| Chinese ballon on 16:36 - Feb 6 with 3901 views | Boundy |
| Chinese ballon on 16:08 - Feb 6 by KeithHaynes |
I would imagine a weather balloon contains many electrical devices for all manner of objectives. |
Why do governments use surveillance balloons?
In the age of satellites, surveillance balloons — which are typically advanced balloons equipped with high-tech, downward-pointing imaging gear — offer close-range monitoring, Iain Boyd, a professor of Aerospace Engineering Sciences at the University of Colorado Boulder, told The Conversation news site. The balloons are sometimes left subject to weather patterns but can be equipped with a “guiding apparatus” to control their path.
While satellites remain the “preferred method of spying from overhead”, the lower-flying balloons, which hover at about the same height as commercial airlines fly, can typically take clearer images than the lowest orbiting satellites, Boyd explained. That’s mostly due to the speed of such satellites, which complete one Earth orbit in 90 minutes.
Another type of satellite is able to rotate in sync with Earth, allowing it to take continuous images of one location, according to Boyd, although such satellites orbit farther away from the planet, and therefore typically produce foggier images.
Surveillance balloons can also be capable of “gathering electronic signals” and intercepting communications, according to David DeRoches, a professor at the Near East South Asia Center for Strategic Studies at the National Defense University in Washington, DC.
He told Al Jazeera the Chinese balloon shot down by the US could also have been used to “gather information on what kind of signals [the US is] using to track it, so it could possibly identify and classify radar hits … which could be of interest if the Chinese wanted to actually launch an attack.” | |
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| Chinese ballon on 16:49 - Feb 6 with 3898 views | controversial_jack |
| Chinese ballon on 16:36 - Feb 6 by Boundy |
Why do governments use surveillance balloons?
In the age of satellites, surveillance balloons — which are typically advanced balloons equipped with high-tech, downward-pointing imaging gear — offer close-range monitoring, Iain Boyd, a professor of Aerospace Engineering Sciences at the University of Colorado Boulder, told The Conversation news site. The balloons are sometimes left subject to weather patterns but can be equipped with a “guiding apparatus” to control their path.
While satellites remain the “preferred method of spying from overhead”, the lower-flying balloons, which hover at about the same height as commercial airlines fly, can typically take clearer images than the lowest orbiting satellites, Boyd explained. That’s mostly due to the speed of such satellites, which complete one Earth orbit in 90 minutes.
Another type of satellite is able to rotate in sync with Earth, allowing it to take continuous images of one location, according to Boyd, although such satellites orbit farther away from the planet, and therefore typically produce foggier images.
Surveillance balloons can also be capable of “gathering electronic signals” and intercepting communications, according to David DeRoches, a professor at the Near East South Asia Center for Strategic Studies at the National Defense University in Washington, DC.
He told Al Jazeera the Chinese balloon shot down by the US could also have been used to “gather information on what kind of signals [the US is] using to track it, so it could possibly identify and classify radar hits … which could be of interest if the Chinese wanted to actually launch an attack.” |
Why would the Chinese want to launch an attack? | | | |
| Chinese ballon on 17:58 - Feb 6 with 3889 views | Boundy |
| Chinese ballon on 16:49 - Feb 6 by controversial_jack |
Why would the Chinese want to launch an attack? |
No idea , I never wrote the article. Why wouldn't they ? | |
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| Chinese ballon on 18:11 - Feb 6 with 3877 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Chinese ballon on 11:29 - Feb 6 by controversial_jack |
It was a weather, not a spy balloon is my point |
And my point is you changed tack very quickly.
Apparently there's another "weather balloon" over the Southern American continent, the Chinese aren't very good at all this stuff, are they?
Who knows what they are but I doubt the Chinese are telling the truth and if the USA recovers the thing they shot down, no doubt they'll tell us whatever story they feel like. | | | |
| Chinese ballon on 18:17 - Feb 6 with 3871 views | controversial_jack |
| Chinese ballon on 18:11 - Feb 6 by SullutaCreturned |
And my point is you changed tack very quickly.
Apparently there's another "weather balloon" over the Southern American continent, the Chinese aren't very good at all this stuff, are they?
Who knows what they are but I doubt the Chinese are telling the truth and if the USA recovers the thing they shot down, no doubt they'll tell us whatever story they feel like. |
How did i change tack? I stated it may be a false flag by the Yanks. Meaning it wasn't there to spy | | | |
| Chinese ballon on 18:35 - Feb 6 with 3864 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Chinese ballon on 18:17 - Feb 6 by controversial_jack |
How did i change tack? I stated it may be a false flag by the Yanks. Meaning it wasn't there to spy |
You said,
Another false flag by the Americans? Chinese can get what they want from satellites.
You tried to word it ambiguously but the second part is a clear accusation. Then, when it was pointed out how sillya flase flag idea is, you changed tack.
End of story, goodnight. | | | |
| Chinese ballon on 20:12 - Feb 6 with 3832 views | controversial_jack |
| Chinese ballon on 18:35 - Feb 6 by SullutaCreturned |
You said,
Another false flag by the Americans? Chinese can get what they want from satellites.
You tried to word it ambiguously but the second part is a clear accusation. Then, when it was pointed out how sillya flase flag idea is, you changed tack.
End of story, goodnight. |
A question mark denotes a question, did you miss that bit?
The Chinese, can indeed get what they want from satelites.
You have made a fool of yourself again | | | |
| Chinese ballon on 00:01 - Feb 7 with 3786 views | DJack |
| Chinese ballon on 20:12 - Feb 6 by controversial_jack |
A question mark denotes a question, did you miss that bit?
The Chinese, can indeed get what they want from satelites.
You have made a fool of yourself again |
You totally avoided my post... | |
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| Chinese ballon on 07:43 - Feb 7 with 3760 views | Kilkennyjack |
Its the 4th balloon.
Trump never told about the 3 during his Presidency.
What a cry baby loser Trump is. |  |
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| Chinese ballon on 07:50 - Feb 7 with 3759 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Chinese ballon on 11:29 - Feb 6 by controversial_jack |
It was a weather, not a spy balloon is my point |
Why are the Chinese so interested in the weather over America. ? | |
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| Chinese ballon on 07:52 - Feb 7 with 3757 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Chinese ballon on 16:49 - Feb 6 by controversial_jack |
Why would the Chinese want to launch an attack? |
You could always ask why the Russians would launch an attack in a sovereign nation. | |
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