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Ireland v Wales Matchday Thread 18:53 - Oct 9 with 6016 viewsNotLoyal

Sunday 11th October 2020
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Ireland v Wales, two countries with so much in common, so whats the relevance of this fixture ? Irish folk will be hoping for a win as they are slowly losing the right to play in next years Euro Championships. Wales manager Ryan Giggs on the other hand has already seen his side qualify for those championships over an exciting last few games of qualification. But of course what is this Irish thing we all know about.

However ...

Here's one - More Irish people are living abroad than there are in Ireland. There are 80 million Irish people outside of Ireland and only around 6 million in Ireland. But at this point we have to pause, apparently most of the USA think they are Irish, but out of the 17 million who think they are, only 9 of them are actually Irish. If we apply the qualification rules for playing for Ireland at football to this principle, nobody in the USA is Irish. In fact the truth is the USA would owe Ireland 78 million people as of today if this principle was applied . Its a conundrum which now solved is fact. I'm happy to help.

Many musicians in the USA also believe they are Irish, the Boston based ( clue ) band Dropkick Murphys sing about Ireland a lot, however none of them have ever been to Ireland and in fact they are more reservation Indian than Irish. Not a lot of people know that but now you do, make your own mind up. On the other hand if you apply the fact that most American Irish have great, great, great, great, great grandparents who came from Ireland the whole population of the states are Irish bar one bloke who lives in Greenwich village, New York who is actually American. When last asked he thought he was Italian but didn't know where Italy was.


Dropkick Murphys yesterday. Honestly, get a country.

Strangely enough most real Irish people in Ireland call themselves Republicans, but not like USA Republicans, more like Republicans who aren't Americans. At this point it becomes complicated, but suffice to say that's a fact as well. In Wales supporters of Plaid would call themselves Welsh nationalists but not like British nationalists who are different entirely, it continues to get confusing because Scottish nationalists are independent seeking people the same as Irish republicans. However they are not republicans. They are nationalists. Politically its a quandary.

Wales is a great place full of Welsh people from Ton Pentre and Carmarthen, however most live in Aberaeron and Whitland. The Welsh government all live in Cardiff in a large building like Antifa did in Washington a few months ago. They make rules up that primarily suit people who live in the Lekwith area of the city, nobody knows why, and many areas of Wales are not sure if any of these political people actually exist or are cardboard characters with strange tendencies. Either way there's another place there called Ely where swamp people live. In Lekwith lives a man called Anus who writes fictional books on fighting, he follows England and eats kebabs. When England scored their third goal on Thursday night he mobbed up with his next door neighbour and gassed himself in the face. He lay on the floor until a SWAT team from Belgium appeared and tucked him up in bed with a hot drink, they still have his English passport.

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Ireland v Wales PRE MATCH by SwansIndependent 11 Oct 2020 9:05
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Ireland v Wales Matchday Thread on 20:24 - Oct 11 with 877 viewsReslovenSwan1

Ireland v Wales Matchday Thread on 17:54 - Oct 11 by theloneranger



It's not Vokes, Robert Earnshaw born in Zambia, has that record!!
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Absolutely right. Wikipedia gets it wrong again.

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Ireland v Wales Matchday Thread on 20:39 - Oct 11 with 851 viewsFireboy2

Ireland v Wales Matchday Thread on 20:09 - Oct 11 by Kilkennyjack

Put simply, Harry Wilson and Smith are not worth a start shirt.

Ampadu in centre mid for Smith.
Matondo as a winger for Wilson.
Brooks for Dan, i think.... ?

And Moore needed to be hooked after 45 for Tyler Roberts.

It was game Wales could have won without Joey and Bale - and would have won with them.
One huge effort and we are looking good.


I was shouting at the box because how sh!te moore was.

He has the touch of an elephant and he when he does get the ball he keeps it too long and gets dispossessed easily.

We were too tentative and afraid to take them on closer to the box, we had the players to win the game but we just didnt want to lose.

Giggs can play a bit negative sometimes and today was a prime time to go for the win.

Imo we need james on the pitch on Wednesday as the bulgarians will have more ball than us so he will give us an outlet to hit them on the break.
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Ireland v Wales Matchday Thread on 20:42 - Oct 11 with 846 viewsNotLoyal

Ireland v Wales Matchday Thread on 20:39 - Oct 11 by Fireboy2

I was shouting at the box because how sh!te moore was.

He has the touch of an elephant and he when he does get the ball he keeps it too long and gets dispossessed easily.

We were too tentative and afraid to take them on closer to the box, we had the players to win the game but we just didnt want to lose.

Giggs can play a bit negative sometimes and today was a prime time to go for the win.

Imo we need james on the pitch on Wednesday as the bulgarians will have more ball than us so he will give us an outlet to hit them on the break.


Just hope our defenders come back injury free.

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Ireland v Wales Matchday Thread on 21:24 - Oct 11 with 813 viewsChief

Ireland v Wales Matchday Thread on 20:24 - Oct 11 by ReslovenSwan1

Absolutely right. Wikipedia gets it wrong again.


I was thinking the other day and you could almost make a Wales team from historic players not born in the uk:
-usa keeper
-lb from Germany
-cb from Singapore
-cb from germany
-rb from usa
Any left wingers you can think of?
-cm from Germany
-cm from Cyprus
-rm from Zimbabwe
-st from Zambia
Any other strikers?

Subs:
-keeper from Germany
-rb from Saudi Arabia

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Ireland v Wales Matchday Thread on 21:26 - Oct 11 with 812 viewsBadlands

Although they weren't great against England I thought Matondo, Johnny Williams and or Tyler Roberts would have caused their defence more problems or at least drawn more fouls.
For me, the likes of Morrell, Brooks, Wilson, Levitt are just more of the same - very busy but no real penetration.

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Ireland v Wales Matchday Thread on 21:29 - Oct 11 with 810 viewsChief

Think Giggs said because of the bubble they won't be calling anyone else up. So with Bradshaw, Doidge and Vokes left out, HRK injured, Moore suspended, only viable option is Tyler Roberts. Although I don't see him as a striker.

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Ireland v Wales Matchday Thread on 21:54 - Oct 11 with 791 viewsFireboy2

Ireland v Wales Matchday Thread on 21:26 - Oct 11 by Badlands

Although they weren't great against England I thought Matondo, Johnny Williams and or Tyler Roberts would have caused their defence more problems or at least drawn more fouls.
For me, the likes of Morrell, Brooks, Wilson, Levitt are just more of the same - very busy but no real penetration.


I too thought matondo, williams and roberts all deserved to be on the pitch today at least as a sub.
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Ireland v Wales Matchday Thread on 22:29 - Oct 11 with 770 viewsbuilthjack

Ireland v Wales Matchday Thread on 21:29 - Oct 11 by Chief

Think Giggs said because of the bubble they won't be calling anyone else up. So with Bradshaw, Doidge and Vokes left out, HRK injured, Moore suspended, only viable option is Tyler Roberts. Although I don't see him as a striker.


Stick Matondo down the middle, he will frighten them to death, as even he doesnt know what he is going to do

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Ireland v Wales Matchday Thread on 22:33 - Oct 11 with 768 viewsFireboy2

Ireland v Wales Matchday Thread on 22:29 - Oct 11 by builthjack

Stick Matondo down the middle, he will frighten them to death, as even he doesnt know what he is going to do


Nah stick him on the wing, he looked good on thursday, as you say his pace would frighten them but not down the middle he would get mullered by the big bulgarian centre halves.
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Ireland v Wales Matchday Thread on 05:32 - Oct 12 with 706 viewsangryjack

Ireland v Wales Matchday Thread on 22:33 - Oct 11 by Fireboy2

Nah stick him on the wing, he looked good on thursday, as you say his pace would frighten them but not down the middle he would get mullered by the big bulgarian centre halves.


Matondo is garbage a headless chicken always giving possession away..fast ye but no brain I got a greyhound like that.could stick him out there
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Ireland v Wales Matchday Thread on 06:15 - Oct 12 with 702 viewsbuilthjack

Ireland v Wales Matchday Thread on 05:32 - Oct 12 by angryjack

Matondo is garbage a headless chicken always giving possession away..fast ye but no brain I got a greyhound like that.could stick him out there


Is the greyhound called Garrick?

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Ireland v Wales Matchday Thread on 13:07 - Oct 12 with 621 viewsSlugster664

Why do Wales bother having a national football side? The standard is below Championship and the vast majority of Welsh people are not interested...I didn't even know Wales had a game the last few days! Why don't they sack it and stick to the national interest, rugby! Far more entertaining and the team have a decent chance of winning something!

This isn't a wind up, I'm generally baffled why some of you are interested...I don't think the players are even interested lol

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Ireland v Wales Matchday Thread on 13:09 - Oct 12 with 616 viewsKeithHaynes

Ireland v Wales Matchday Thread on 13:07 - Oct 12 by Slugster664

Why do Wales bother having a national football side? The standard is below Championship and the vast majority of Welsh people are not interested...I didn't even know Wales had a game the last few days! Why don't they sack it and stick to the national interest, rugby! Far more entertaining and the team have a decent chance of winning something!

This isn't a wind up, I'm generally baffled why some of you are interested...I don't think the players are even interested lol


There's a few folk who would argue with you, especially those who were in France 2016.

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Ireland v Wales Matchday Thread on 14:34 - Oct 12 with 596 viewsReslovenSwan1

Ireland v Wales Matchday Thread on 13:07 - Oct 12 by Slugster664

Why do Wales bother having a national football side? The standard is below Championship and the vast majority of Welsh people are not interested...I didn't even know Wales had a game the last few days! Why don't they sack it and stick to the national interest, rugby! Far more entertaining and the team have a decent chance of winning something!

This isn't a wind up, I'm generally baffled why some of you are interested...I don't think the players are even interested lol


The Welsh team is doing a great job even if it was still rated 100 plus as it did a few years ago. 2016 Euro Semi finalists was very popular. It is a statement of nationhood which is of value to some and valueless to others.

Personally I supported South Korea v Team GB in the Olympics 2012 . I was happy in my heart when Giggs Bellamy and co. were eliminated. That team was an abomination. The Olympic committee encouraged Stuart Pearce to apppoint David Beckham as captain.

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Ireland v Wales Matchday Thread on 14:40 - Oct 12 with 594 viewsReslovenSwan1

Giggs wanted a point and got it. Wales did not go for the win even after the red card. There was on instance where Connor did a rampaging run on the overlap gave the ball to Brookes for the overlap and then stopped probably under instruction. Brooks passed it back to Connor who then went back to Rodon with Moore getting frustrated.

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Ireland v Wales Matchday Thread on 16:02 - Oct 12 with 580 viewsFireboy2

Ireland v Wales Matchday Thread on 14:40 - Oct 12 by ReslovenSwan1

Giggs wanted a point and got it. Wales did not go for the win even after the red card. There was on instance where Connor did a rampaging run on the overlap gave the ball to Brookes for the overlap and then stopped probably under instruction. Brooks passed it back to Connor who then went back to Rodon with Moore getting frustrated.


This ^

And a bloody shame.
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Ireland v Wales Matchday Thread on 16:04 - Oct 12 with 579 viewsFireboy2

Ireland v Wales Matchday Thread on 13:09 - Oct 12 by KeithHaynes

There's a few folk who would argue with you, especially those who were in France 2016.


Yea Keith, just a few.

Shame you ceded and replied to the wum.
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Ireland v Wales Matchday Thread on 17:43 - Oct 12 with 563 viewsSlugster664

Ireland v Wales Matchday Thread on 16:04 - Oct 12 by Fireboy2

Yea Keith, just a few.

Shame you ceded and replied to the wum.


I said I wasn't winding people up, I'm genuinely shocked people take an interest in this sh1te...the only sport we'll ever compete at, like it or not, is rugby...our national football side is a waste of time.

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Ireland v Wales Matchday Thread on 17:48 - Oct 12 with 560 viewsjasper_T

Ireland v Wales Matchday Thread on 17:43 - Oct 12 by Slugster664

I said I wasn't winding people up, I'm genuinely shocked people take an interest in this sh1te...the only sport we'll ever compete at, like it or not, is rugby...our national football side is a waste of time.


Go whinge about it on a rugby forum, then.
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Ireland v Wales Matchday Thread on 20:15 - Oct 12 with 544 viewstrampie

Ireland v Wales Matchday Thread on 17:43 - Oct 12 by Slugster664

I said I wasn't winding people up, I'm genuinely shocked people take an interest in this sh1te...the only sport we'll ever compete at, like it or not, is rugby...our national football side is a waste of time.


We made the semi finals of the last Euro's, we could have won the WC in 1958 if John Charles the best player in the World going into the finals was not kicked out of it and we would have won it if we had entered in 1934 as we were multiple home nations champions with the home nations being regarded as being better than the rest of the world at the time.

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Ireland v Wales Matchday Thread on 01:04 - Oct 13 with 523 viewsSlugster664

Ireland v Wales Matchday Thread on 20:15 - Oct 12 by trampie

We made the semi finals of the last Euro's, we could have won the WC in 1958 if John Charles the best player in the World going into the finals was not kicked out of it and we would have won it if we had entered in 1934 as we were multiple home nations champions with the home nations being regarded as being better than the rest of the world at the time.


...and we could have won the last World Cup if other teams hadn't turned up! Ridiculous post.

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Ireland v Wales Matchday Thread on 01:06 - Oct 13 with 521 viewsSlugster664

Ireland v Wales Matchday Thread on 17:48 - Oct 12 by jasper_T

Go whinge about it on a rugby forum, then.


Like I say, no one is interested in Welsh football especially people on rugby forum's...because it is sh1te.

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Ireland v Wales Matchday Thread on 02:00 - Oct 13 with 516 viewsChief

Ireland v Wales Matchday Thread on 14:34 - Oct 12 by ReslovenSwan1

The Welsh team is doing a great job even if it was still rated 100 plus as it did a few years ago. 2016 Euro Semi finalists was very popular. It is a statement of nationhood which is of value to some and valueless to others.

Personally I supported South Korea v Team GB in the Olympics 2012 . I was happy in my heart when Giggs Bellamy and co. were eliminated. That team was an abomination. The Olympic committee encouraged Stuart Pearce to apppoint David Beckham as captain.


That Team GB was shocking and was disappointed Wales players decided to participate. Especially Giggs who had retired from international football 5 years earlier yet unretired to play for a different team. Hopefully it was a one off and we never see it again.

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Ireland v Wales Matchday Thread on 02:03 - Oct 13 with 513 viewsChief

Ireland v Wales Matchday Thread on 01:06 - Oct 13 by Slugster664

Like I say, no one is interested in Welsh football especially people on rugby forum's...because it is sh1te.


So you're a glory hunter then?

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Ireland v Wales Matchday Thread on 09:46 - Oct 13 with 484 viewsFireboy2

Ireland v Wales Matchday Thread on 02:03 - Oct 13 by Chief

So you're a glory hunter then?


No, hes a dispassionate welshman.
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