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Who will be watching? First one kicks off in 24 hours time.
The Democrats have pulled Joe back from his campaign trail recently to get him prepared, so hopefully it will be a decent exchange.
Unfortunately they don’t seem to have great confidence as they have spent the last month looking for any dirt they can dig up so Joe can use if he gets stuck.
It’s no coincidence that this vote influencing Facebook algorithm story is being shamelessly and inaccurately made into a race issue on the eve of the debates. So transparent and disingenuous, it’s a shame politics has come to this on this level where black people are being used in this way to score political points. I would be furious if I was them, but it does seem a lot of people are not falling for this one and calling it out for what it is.
People finally seem to be getting wise to this political race baiting which is refreshing to see.
It’s also telling that in the week of the debate they try and paint Trump as a tax evasion offender. I think that’s what they wanted the tax returns to show, they seem to have got annoyed when it turns out his tax returns were fine in accordance to what his companies profits were - but decided to run with it anyway. Any news is good news in their mind as it’s another thing Joe can use when in a tricky spot.
But I hope the discussions remain political and doesn’t turn into some form of gossip peddling reality TV episode.
Although I think there should be some kind of drinking game involved if it does turn that way, how many times Biden completely loses his thread of thought and blurts out “I mean, think about it...” you have to take a shot.
I will be watching with great interest anyway.
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 20:28 - Dec 23 by majorraglan
There is no evidence of any wrong doing, even Mitch McConnell is trying to shut this fraud stuff down. We are talking about a Republican State where most of the officials are Republican, they are saying they have run a clean and fair election and to date no evidence of large scale fraud has been presented to a court which suggests otherwise.
Trump has made numerous claims re fraud which have been greeted with scepticism by elected officials and he has even invited officials from some states to the White House to “discuss” the results in those states, his comments have also stoked tensions. To all intensive purposes, it appears they have had transparent and fair elections, independent monitors have said as much, so why should they let someone in who may have ulterior purposes.
No of course not, "no evidence of fraud" has been the refrain since they were all saying exactly the opposite in 2018, remember the 4 Democrat Senators? You continue to believe it, I really am past caring whether you do or not, but it won't stop me posting about it.
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 21:07 - Dec 23 with 2462 views
🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 16:59 - Jan 2 by A_Fans_Dad
Is Video of 4 different ballot counters running the same batches of Ballots through the counting machines 3 - 5 times evidence of Election Fraud?
One again either you are poorly informed or you are being deliberate in your intentions.
There are many multiple different votes on a US Presidential ballot form, it is not just you selecting a President. You select your member for governor, you may also be selecting your county dog catcher and you may also be voying on any number of single issue bills put forward by the state.
It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 21:09 - Jan 2 with 2127 views
🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 17:58 - Jan 2 by DJack
One again either you are poorly informed or you are being deliberate in your intentions.
There are many multiple different votes on a US Presidential ballot form, it is not just you selecting a President. You select your member for governor, you may also be selecting your county dog catcher and you may also be voying on any number of single issue bills put forward by the state.
Which clearly shows that you nothing about how the Scanner counting machines operate. Ballots only go through once, an image is taken and analysed by the machine. You do not put batches of Baloot papers through multiple times.
If you think it is done differently perhaps you can point me to a description of your version of the process?
🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 21:09 - Jan 2 by A_Fans_Dad
Which clearly shows that you nothing about how the Scanner counting machines operate. Ballots only go through once, an image is taken and analysed by the machine. You do not put batches of Baloot papers through multiple times.
If you think it is done differently perhaps you can point me to a description of your version of the process?
Streange that no one else knows how itworks except you anda bunch of other conspiracy theorists. Secretaries of State, data analysts, Americas own homeland Cyberdefence team, judges of all persuasions etc have all gone "no dice" on the random claims and yet you and these other people know the "truth"
I've made few claims on this whole thread and you've made numerous but still no one else with expertise in the relevant areas agree with you...
It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 11:11 - Jan 3 with 2060 views
🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 04:09 - Jan 3 by DJack
Streange that no one else knows how itworks except you anda bunch of other conspiracy theorists. Secretaries of State, data analysts, Americas own homeland Cyberdefence team, judges of all persuasions etc have all gone "no dice" on the random claims and yet you and these other people know the "truth"
I've made few claims on this whole thread and you've made numerous but still no one else with expertise in the relevant areas agree with you...
The description of how it works comes from Wiki and the actual users of the machines. One of the witnesses at the senate hearing has the Machine Training Manual.
You are reading and believing the mass media.
Because the homeland Cyberdefence team is advised by none other than Dominion, the makers, programmers and suppliers of the Machines that are perfect, their CEO said so. He blatantly lied to a Senate comittee as his own company's Training Manual proved. The SOS lied numerous times as did his lawer to the same Senate committee. The Judges have abrogated their responsibility by avoiding viewing the actual data.
Would you like to see the real experts opinions? I am talking about Mathematicians, Statisticians, Cyber Security Specialists, Paper & Printing Specialists, Hackers etc. They have all come forward with their expert knowledge to show that the Election was a complete fraud, using practically every fraudulant method possible. But you don't want to believe them do you?
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 15:58 - Jan 3 with 2028 views
Reckon he’s coming from an independent standpoint?
Sixty odd cases in a number of jurisdictions including some being heard by Trump appointees and no evidence of large scale fraud. To date, all we have to date are baseless allegations of fraud from Trump and his supporters, some of the Republicans have even tried to litigate against the VP in an attempt to get him to choose alternative electors who would go against the will of the voters of the State.
If this was taking place in an African country there’d be ructions, allegations of coups etc. The likes of McConnell have more or less told the Senators to accept the result of the election, but there’s a hard core jostling to try and position themselves as the heir apparent to Trump and win the 2024 nomination, I suspect that what we are seeing now.
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 16:42 - Jan 3 with 1998 views
🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 16:39 - Jan 3 by majorraglan
Sixty odd cases in a number of jurisdictions including some being heard by Trump appointees and no evidence of large scale fraud. To date, all we have to date are baseless allegations of fraud from Trump and his supporters, some of the Republicans have even tried to litigate against the VP in an attempt to get him to choose alternative electors who would go against the will of the voters of the State.
If this was taking place in an African country there’d be ructions, allegations of coups etc. The likes of McConnell have more or less told the Senators to accept the result of the election, but there’s a hard core jostling to try and position themselves as the heir apparent to Trump and win the 2024 nomination, I suspect that what we are seeing now.
Quite. They’re also raising a fortune by keeping on spinning.
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 18:07 - Jan 3 with 1985 views
Reckon he’s coming from an independent standpoint?
At no point did I use the word "Independent". In the current climate there are no "independent" people they are either for or against, or they wouldn't bother.
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 18:31 - Jan 3 with 1970 views
🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 16:39 - Jan 3 by majorraglan
Sixty odd cases in a number of jurisdictions including some being heard by Trump appointees and no evidence of large scale fraud. To date, all we have to date are baseless allegations of fraud from Trump and his supporters, some of the Republicans have even tried to litigate against the VP in an attempt to get him to choose alternative electors who would go against the will of the voters of the State.
If this was taking place in an African country there’d be ructions, allegations of coups etc. The likes of McConnell have more or less told the Senators to accept the result of the election, but there’s a hard core jostling to try and position themselves as the heir apparent to Trump and win the 2024 nomination, I suspect that what we are seeing now.
I asked the question earlier, is running the same batch of Ballot papers throught he Scanning/Counting machines up to 5 times your idea of fraud?
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 18:37 - Jan 3 with 1965 views
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