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Major incident in Southport 13:35 - Jul 29 with 21241 viewsraynor94

Shocking news coming out, there have been multiple stabbings, and it's been declared a major incident

Sadly it seems to be a children's holiday club
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You give it out, you take it back it`s all part of the game
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Major incident in Southport on 18:58 - Aug 4 with 1265 viewsScotia

Major incident in Southport on 18:15 - Aug 4 by Wingstandwood

I find the surrealism and parody aspect of WOKE idiots to be hilarious at times. And everything I and others predicted years in advance as come bleeding-bloody-obvious 100% true.

Someone sane and rational enough to be extremely concerned about a predicted future U.K population explosion of (at current rate) 10 million being added to the 10 million since Blair/New Labour tenure onwards is? "Far right" apparently.

Mmmmm a future population increase the equivalent of 80 Swansea’s does sound rather a lot?

Getting the balance right hey! Engineers think about " Load-bearing capacity"…. Army Brigade H.Q staff think about "logistical capability to meet operational exercise/overseas deployment requirement(s) "….Big business thinks about “supply being able to meet demand” Etc, etc, etc.

And WOKE loons who live in a fantasy and student activist man-child world without consequences, reality or “to every action there is an opposite an equal reaction” repercussions?

Their thoughts on immigration “let’s have a million or more every year”. Their thoughts on undocumented military age male organised crime gangs infiltrating the U.K “Say it loud say it clear every undocumented male is welcome here”.



That's just an extremists view of an extremists view. Exactly what got us in to this problem.
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Major incident in Southport on 19:03 - Aug 4 with 1251 viewsScotia

Major incident in Southport on 18:19 - Aug 4 by Gwyn737

Your last sentence. Nobody really is saying that.

Inability to distinguish between economic migrants and those entering the country illegally is misusing the waters.

As are those who think that ‘woke’ people welcome undocumented males.

You’d probably describe me as ‘woke’. I’m desperate to stop undocumented migrants.


I have some genuinely "woke" friends.

They think I'm a bit racist and transphobic. That's the problem in my view.

We need too many migrants and we allow too many others to disappear in to the cash in hand economy.

We really need to control the nutters on social media and get shot of Murdoch, Dacre and the like having control of the media.
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Major incident in Southport on 19:04 - Aug 4 with 1241 viewsonehunglow

Major incident in Southport on 18:55 - Aug 4 by Scotia

For most of the time since the 60's we've had a right wing government.


Really.
Right wing you say
That include Callaghan and Heath

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Major incident in Southport on 19:13 - Aug 4 with 1223 viewsScotia

Major incident in Southport on 19:04 - Aug 4 by onehunglow

Really.
Right wing you say
That include Callaghan and Heath


You could include Blair and Brown according to some.
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Major incident in Southport on 19:21 - Aug 4 with 1188 viewsItchySphincter

Major incident in Southport on 18:19 - Aug 4 by Gwyn737

Your last sentence. Nobody really is saying that.

Inability to distinguish between economic migrants and those entering the country illegally is misusing the waters.

As are those who think that ‘woke’ people welcome undocumented males.

You’d probably describe me as ‘woke’. I’m desperate to stop undocumented migrants.


You are pretty typical.

Some goons are too thick to realise that you don’t have to be one thing or the other.

‘……. like a moth to Itchy’s flame ……’
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Major incident in Southport on 19:21 - Aug 4 with 1187 viewsGwyn737

Major incident in Southport on 19:03 - Aug 4 by Scotia

I have some genuinely "woke" friends.

They think I'm a bit racist and transphobic. That's the problem in my view.

We need too many migrants and we allow too many others to disappear in to the cash in hand economy.

We really need to control the nutters on social media and get shot of Murdoch, Dacre and the like having control of the media.
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I’m probably being optimistic but some of the right wing grifters (Grimes, Farage, Oakenshott etc.) have wound their necks in over the last couple of days.

I hope they’re reflecting on their language after the attack in the same way I’m hoping those normal folks who spread lies are thinking about it.

I keep hearing the refrain ‘we’re full up’ when in reality population decrease among Beitish folk is a real issue.
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Major incident in Southport on 19:34 - Aug 4 with 1154 viewsonehunglow

Major incident in Southport on 19:21 - Aug 4 by Gwyn737

I’m probably being optimistic but some of the right wing grifters (Grimes, Farage, Oakenshott etc.) have wound their necks in over the last couple of days.

I hope they’re reflecting on their language after the attack in the same way I’m hoping those normal folks who spread lies are thinking about it.

I keep hearing the refrain ‘we’re full up’ when in reality population decrease among Beitish folk is a real issue.


Why don’t the “ left”help the police crush these maggots
Police tactics are beyond bad
Please offer any comments on my OP

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Major incident in Southport on 19:39 - Aug 4 with 1153 views1983

Major incident in Southport on 18:52 - Aug 4 by Gwyn737

The left are wholly responsible for the change? I don’t think so.

The far right was at its most powerful in the late 70s and early 80s when migration numbers were net negative in the main.

Blaming immigrants for smashing up Hays travel and lamping police officers isn’t going to cut it.

Over the next few weeks/months, lots of these idiots are thankfully going to get knocks on their doors.

Many will lose their jobs too. Ironically, some will be replaced by immigrants.


And where they going to put them because all our prisons are full ???
Do you think they will learn their lesson do you think they will think I better not do that again?
This is not going away and it will rumble on and on while the government keep throwing millions of pounds at it and the "Far Right" will just keep getting more of a momentum and backing


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Major incident in Southport on 19:46 - Aug 4 with 1133 viewsonehunglow

Major incident in Southport on 19:39 - Aug 4 by 1983

And where they going to put them because all our prisons are full ???
Do you think they will learn their lesson do you think they will think I better not do that again?
This is not going away and it will rumble on and on while the government keep throwing millions of pounds at it and the "Far Right" will just keep getting more of a momentum and backing


Fair point
The “ left” are normally those who cry rehabilitation,reconciliation,inclusion . Inclusion is the last thing we shouod do with these maggots .
They are enjoying theirynout
Laughing at authority and police
This is what th left have nurtured
Utter hypocrisy to see them going all hard about punishment. . They don’t believe in it .
Right wing governments since the 60s……the most ludicrous phrase I’ve read on here

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Major incident in Southport on 19:54 - Aug 4 with 1111 viewsScotia

Major incident in Southport on 19:39 - Aug 4 by 1983

And where they going to put them because all our prisons are full ???
Do you think they will learn their lesson do you think they will think I better not do that again?
This is not going away and it will rumble on and on while the government keep throwing millions of pounds at it and the "Far Right" will just keep getting more of a momentum and backing


Where we put them is the fault of 14 years of Tory government as is the fact is the vast majority of migrants being here. They gave them permission.

This is the entire problem. Blame the illegal immigrants for the countries problems that are completely the fault of recent governments.
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Major incident in Southport on 20:01 - Aug 4 with 1095 viewsAnotherJohn

Major incident in Southport on 19:21 - Aug 4 by Gwyn737

I’m probably being optimistic but some of the right wing grifters (Grimes, Farage, Oakenshott etc.) have wound their necks in over the last couple of days.

I hope they’re reflecting on their language after the attack in the same way I’m hoping those normal folks who spread lies are thinking about it.

I keep hearing the refrain ‘we’re full up’ when in reality population decrease among Beitish folk is a real issue.


Surely that last sentence is a bit of a stretch. In 2018 the ONS calculated projections for a scenario in which there is zero net migration and these suggested that by 2043 the populations of England and N. Ireland would still rise by 1% and 4% respectively, while those of Wales and Scotland would fall by 5% and 8%. This takes no account of future internal UK cross border movements. The change in the pattern of migration in recent years, with more non-EU arrivals, probably points to slightly higher overall fertility rates than the 2018 projections assumed, and I'd guess the UK picture would be pretty much flat. Of course, we won't manage zero net migration, so we face significant continuing population growth. Casting my mind back to how difficult commuting between North Oxfordshire and Nottingham was even many years ago, I personally would not mind a modest fall in the UK population. In many parts of England the roads are certainly full up.
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Major incident in Southport on 20:25 - Aug 4 with 1017 viewsonehunglow

Major incident in Southport on 20:01 - Aug 4 by AnotherJohn

Surely that last sentence is a bit of a stretch. In 2018 the ONS calculated projections for a scenario in which there is zero net migration and these suggested that by 2043 the populations of England and N. Ireland would still rise by 1% and 4% respectively, while those of Wales and Scotland would fall by 5% and 8%. This takes no account of future internal UK cross border movements. The change in the pattern of migration in recent years, with more non-EU arrivals, probably points to slightly higher overall fertility rates than the 2018 projections assumed, and I'd guess the UK picture would be pretty much flat. Of course, we won't manage zero net migration, so we face significant continuing population growth. Casting my mind back to how difficult commuting between North Oxfordshire and Nottingham was even many years ago, I personally would not mind a modest fall in the UK population. In many parts of England the roads are certainly full up.
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When illegal entrants and career criminals waltz into this country and are clothed and fed,it’s only a matter time before people twig.
Refugees welcome . Really
We have homeless everywhere who are shat on . Fact .
No lefty ,right on woke jerk takes them into their middle class milieu

That said, policing is broke and has been by both Labour and especially conservative. Happy Teresa ,u bxxxh

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Major incident in Southport on 20:46 - Aug 4 with 959 viewsGwyn737

Major incident in Southport on 20:01 - Aug 4 by AnotherJohn

Surely that last sentence is a bit of a stretch. In 2018 the ONS calculated projections for a scenario in which there is zero net migration and these suggested that by 2043 the populations of England and N. Ireland would still rise by 1% and 4% respectively, while those of Wales and Scotland would fall by 5% and 8%. This takes no account of future internal UK cross border movements. The change in the pattern of migration in recent years, with more non-EU arrivals, probably points to slightly higher overall fertility rates than the 2018 projections assumed, and I'd guess the UK picture would be pretty much flat. Of course, we won't manage zero net migration, so we face significant continuing population growth. Casting my mind back to how difficult commuting between North Oxfordshire and Nottingham was even many years ago, I personally would not mind a modest fall in the UK population. In many parts of England the roads are certainly full up.
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Birth rates have absolutely crashed since 2018.

I stand by my point.
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Major incident in Southport on 21:01 - Aug 4 with 930 viewsmajorraglan

Major incident in Southport on 14:50 - Aug 4 by Wingstandwood



Now attemting to set fire to the migrant hotel!

The U.K is up sh1t creek, well and truly! This is where years of WOKE poison and lefty-loon crackpottery has taken the country, more divided, more dangerous, more lawless, more damaged than its ever been.

The U.K had come on leaps and bounds for the 'dark days' of the 1960's and 1970's. Look at the state of the country now!!!!


We’ve had 14 years of Conservative government, hardly loony left crackpottery, more like years of incompetence in managing immigration.
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Major incident in Southport on 21:28 - Aug 4 with 890 viewsWingstandwood

Major incident in Southport on 21:01 - Aug 4 by majorraglan

We’ve had 14 years of Conservative government, hardly loony left crackpottery, more like years of incompetence in managing immigration.


History, TODAY and recent events have NOW shown these WOKE clowns and lefty loon crackpots to be absolute impostors, charlatans and 5 star/A+ grade own-goal loser trouble makers, because ask yourself just one question......."Was Britain a vastly safer, functional, tolerant and harmonious country before modern day WOKE arrived on the scene"?

Another hilarity is the complete and utter lack of awareness of the WOKE idiots who adopted the total opposite of a ‘hearts and minds’ approach thinking that they were on to a winner by maliciously smearing nearly everyone as a wrong-un.

These modern day WOKE clowns might as well be the real "far right" (as opposed to made up one), because they look more like the "far right" in 'black operation/PSYOP' strategic mode by the very division that we are seeing now,! In fact I would guess that the real far right (as opposed to the made up one) cannot believe its luck?

So here we find the U.K on the 4th AUGUST 2024 after years of WOKE poison. It went well didn't it? What a succesful mission hey? Objectives acheived? Think years back during pre-WOKE times when the U.K was a far better place hey!

Argus!

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Major incident in Southport on 22:06 - Aug 4 with 822 viewsWingstandwood



Shocking and sick times we live in! Never has the U.K been like this. Never!

Argus!

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Major incident in Southport on 22:10 - Aug 4 with 800 viewsBoundy

Major incident in Southport on 21:28 - Aug 4 by Wingstandwood

History, TODAY and recent events have NOW shown these WOKE clowns and lefty loon crackpots to be absolute impostors, charlatans and 5 star/A+ grade own-goal loser trouble makers, because ask yourself just one question......."Was Britain a vastly safer, functional, tolerant and harmonious country before modern day WOKE arrived on the scene"?

Another hilarity is the complete and utter lack of awareness of the WOKE idiots who adopted the total opposite of a ‘hearts and minds’ approach thinking that they were on to a winner by maliciously smearing nearly everyone as a wrong-un.

These modern day WOKE clowns might as well be the real "far right" (as opposed to made up one), because they look more like the "far right" in 'black operation/PSYOP' strategic mode by the very division that we are seeing now,! In fact I would guess that the real far right (as opposed to the made up one) cannot believe its luck?

So here we find the U.K on the 4th AUGUST 2024 after years of WOKE poison. It went well didn't it? What a succesful mission hey? Objectives acheived? Think years back during pre-WOKE times when the U.K was a far better place hey!


Well said, years of acceptance of falling standards in society, where anything goes ,no limits to what can seen ,read or heard.You want to be a donkey ,go ahead son I'll support you, respect people or property that's gone out the window until it happens to you.

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Major incident in Southport on 22:13 - Aug 4 with 797 viewsblackswan

Major incident in Southport on 20:25 - Aug 4 by onehunglow

When illegal entrants and career criminals waltz into this country and are clothed and fed,it’s only a matter time before people twig.
Refugees welcome . Really
We have homeless everywhere who are shat on . Fact .
No lefty ,right on woke jerk takes them into their middle class milieu

That said, policing is broke and has been by both Labour and especially conservative. Happy Teresa ,u bxxxh


Agree what really annoyed me was homeless people in Bristol having their tents burnt you can't have double standards just breeding resentment
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Major incident in Southport on 01:05 - Aug 5 with 686 viewsRobbie

Llanelli under decent people and protesters stopped The Stradey Park Hotel becoming a possible minefield regarding asylum seekers , well done to the many tidy Turks I know .

Bigger picture is we living out in the sticks are not caught up in Inner City violence as seen over this weekend , a small mercy . Other good people and residents in the UK are not .

Will bang my drum again about Blair and his Human Rights lawyer wife opening the stable door , horse has escaped and does not want to be captured again , that bolt is useless now .

Thought a new Goverment with new solutions could stop the small boats , another waste of time promise , the issue is getting worse with no Politician making difficult choices .

Rent a mob are now in charge when they feel like kicking off through social media outlets .

Seems Bolton has had a culture differnce just lately of gangs on their streets sadly .

Reports earlier suggest Plod cannot now take 999 calls and react due to other issues ,

Summer recess coming up for our elected lawmakers in Westminster soon .
Might be a good idea if they put their sun block factor 20 on hold and stay in our mess .
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Major incident in Southport on 06:19 - Aug 5 with 613 viewsAnotherJohn

Major incident in Southport on 20:46 - Aug 4 by Gwyn737

Birth rates have absolutely crashed since 2018.

I stand by my point.
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Can you quantify your projection and give some evidence? The latest ONS figures actually predict an increase in the rate of UK population growth compared with the figures from the report from the previous year.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populationandmigration/popul

"The UK population is projected to reach 70 million by mid-2026; this growth is faster than in the 2020-based projections released in January 2023 with the projected increase mainly resulting from international migration."

The latest (higher) projection is based on "an assumption of long-term net international migration of 315,000 per year from year ending mid-2028 onwards". The worry would be that this has been underestimated in recent years with the net migration figures running at 745,000 for 2022 and 672,000 for the 12 months to June 2023.

It should be noted that although migration is the main driver of population increase, the ONS projections suggest that between mid-2021 and mid-2036 there will be 10.8 million UK births and 10.3 million deaths.

You are making broad-brush claims with no data.
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Major incident in Southport on 06:43 - Aug 5 with 571 viewsAnotherJohn

Major incident in Southport on 21:01 - Aug 4 by majorraglan

We’ve had 14 years of Conservative government, hardly loony left crackpottery, more like years of incompetence in managing immigration.


Unusual for the Major to fall down on the detail. We had a Coalition Government for 5 years (May 2010-2015) in that 14 years - and that was what we may call the austerity period. Yes, the Tories dictated the overall direction of travel, but the Lib-Dems went along with some pretty harsh policies, and did so with a degree of enthusiasm. Does anybody remember the Orange Book group? They advocated economically liberal policies, and even replacing the NHS with an insurance-based system (David Laws).

https://iea.org.uk/blog/the-orange-book-and-the-battle-to-reclaim-liberalism
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Major incident in Southport on 07:48 - Aug 5 with 478 viewsGwyn737

Major incident in Southport on 06:19 - Aug 5 by AnotherJohn

Can you quantify your projection and give some evidence? The latest ONS figures actually predict an increase in the rate of UK population growth compared with the figures from the report from the previous year.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populationandmigration/popul

"The UK population is projected to reach 70 million by mid-2026; this growth is faster than in the 2020-based projections released in January 2023 with the projected increase mainly resulting from international migration."

The latest (higher) projection is based on "an assumption of long-term net international migration of 315,000 per year from year ending mid-2028 onwards". The worry would be that this has been underestimated in recent years with the net migration figures running at 745,000 for 2022 and 672,000 for the 12 months to June 2023.

It should be noted that although migration is the main driver of population increase, the ONS projections suggest that between mid-2021 and mid-2036 there will be 10.8 million UK births and 10.3 million deaths.

You are making broad-brush claims with no data.


I was talking about birth rate being low and not including immigration on purpose to show one of the reasons we’ve become reliant on immigration.

Year by year data is here:

https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/GBR/united-kingdom/birth-ra
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Major incident in Southport on 08:23 - Aug 5 with 1020 viewsAnotherJohn

Major incident in Southport on 07:48 - Aug 5 by Gwyn737

I was talking about birth rate being low and not including immigration on purpose to show one of the reasons we’ve become reliant on immigration.

Year by year data is here:

https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/GBR/united-kingdom/birth-ra


I am interested in your population projection - i.e. what you think our population will be at a given point. You say that the people who say we are "full up" are mistaken and that we have the opposite problem of replacing the numbers we have. The latest ONS projections take account of their modelling of fertility rates in future years. Are you saying they are wrong, and that population growth will in fact be slower than they suggest?
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Major incident in Southport on 08:44 - Aug 5 with 990 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Major incident in Southport on 20:46 - Aug 4 by Gwyn737

Birth rates have absolutely crashed since 2018.

I stand by my point.
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Why is falling birth rates always portrayed as an awful thing? Money’s tight, maybe people put off kids because they can’t afford it. More and more women concentrating on their careers now too.

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Major incident in Southport on 08:56 - Aug 5 with 965 viewsonehunglow

Major incident in Southport on 08:44 - Aug 5 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

Why is falling birth rates always portrayed as an awful thing? Money’s tight, maybe people put off kids because they can’t afford it. More and more women concentrating on their careers now too.


100% right
There is no necessarily for couples to have any children at all.
You can be content without
Nobody should be railroaded into having a child
They change your life,for a start ,or should do.

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