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I’ve had enough
at 21:29 15 Mar 2023

of a lot of the anger, angry people and drama monarchs on here and at matches. So I’m going to give both a miss for a while.

I’ve enjoyed this board for over 20 years. Clive’s writing is truly brilliant, and I also admire a lot of posters.

I’m 57 and have been going to Loftus Road since 1974. Some of the people I used to go with - and loved - have since died. But the place we went to together is no less special for that. Since 1976, it’s been mainly downhill! But I’ve been lucky to see Bowles + Francis, Thomas + Masson, Allen + Goddard, Currie + Waddock, and so on and so on. And amid the many disappointments and what feels like thousands of away defeats (even in 75/6, we were dodgy away), there have been many wonderful times and moments, and many good teams.

I’ve often been very fed up with the team/club/manager/board etc. I was again last night, watching a stream. I’ve been to plenty of away games too, including Rotherham a week and a half ago.

I’ve inflicted my can’t kick it love of QPR ( I grew up a block north of Queen’s Park and probably assumed everyone’s local team was that good) on my 3 sons, who also go to games and also hurt when we lose.

But the level of bile directed at the players and the club at the moment - only by some, I recognise that - is so ott and out of proportion to any reality. As is the look at me, I’m even angrier than you material.

Yes it’s been a bleak season/14 months, and we may go down and that would be a financial disaster for the club. But (the large majority of) clubs survive this and most go on to enjoy better times.

Some have said this is the worst team in living memory. It isn’t. The Ray Harford team that survived because of a fluke Jamie Pollock own goal and the team that Ollie took down but Gerry built were significantly worse. The Burtenshaw team relegated in 78/9 are down there too.

I also remember Don Howe’s Rangers losing 8 in a row in 90/91, before Bobby Gould came in as his assistant, the club signed Tillson + Peacock, won 3-1 at Anfield, and finished 12th (out of 22 in those days). DH would never have lasted that spell these days, but he did a good job at QPR overall, and the team he built was fun to watch.

More than that, I really enjoyed the first 2/3 of last season. Yes QPR did implode - I was at Peterborough and Barnsley on successive Saturdays - but I really liked Warburton’s team (I too miss Dom Ball and Barbet) for most of that season, and I remember most other fans did too. Quite a few of those players remain, and while it’s entirely fair comment to criticise them for how feeble they’ve been for so long now, they - the ones on the pitch, not Beale’s sulkers - are not playing terribly for the heck of it. In some cases, their confidence is shot - but we lack a player to drop them for. They’re not wasters like Beale or Assou-Ekotto, and I don’t hate any of them.

So I’ll be back at Loftus Road and on this board after a break, but in the meantime it would be a lot more fun to see less aggression.

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Sunderland
at 16:56 15 Feb 2015

As well as we played, they were shocking on Tuesday. Sounds like they were similar today. Only 4 league wins all season and their fans aren't happy..

http://www.readytogo.net/smb/forums/pure-football.86/

Can't see west brom or palace not getting enough points. So we need to finish in the top three of sunderland, hull, ourselves, villa, burnley + Leics ?

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New 25?
at 23:43 31 Jan 2013

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Damned lies
at 10:31 29 Dec 2010

..and some stats for league games played this season

P4 Pts 10 (after Derby A)
P8 Pts 22 (after Donny H)
P10 Pts 26 (after Palace A)
P14 Pts 30 (after Burnley H)
P19 Pts 41 (after Cardiff H)
P21 Pts 41 (after Leeds A)
P23 Pts 47 (after Cov A)

One thing I noticed was that even after our brilliant start (W8 D2 L0 after Palace A) gave way to a bit of reality, we've done ok/pretty well. Even with the 4 draws in a row that followed and the recent two defeats, we've still managed 21pts from the next 13 games - which is equivalent to 74pts in 46 games, so playoff form in many seasons.

If you average out the pts needed to finish second in the 22 seasons since the second division started playing 46 games (88/89), it works out at 82.3. Call it 83 to round it up. Of course, it's only an average - the lowest needed was 75, the highest 91. Another way to look at it is to estimate the number of pts 2 other sides (Cardiff + Leeds?) might now reach. If you were to go back to the average of 83pts, that's 36 more from the 47 we have now, an average of 1.57 a game - or 6.3 every 4 games, 9.4 every 6 games, the equivalent of 72 a season.
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