| Ross stewart 18:00 - Jul 25 with 5703 views | saint22 |
Where is he? For someone who needs game time has he played any part yet?
Did we really sign someone who is not gonna ever make a real impression |  | | |  |
| Ross stewart on 18:22 - Jul 25 with 4414 views | A1079 |
I think we all know where the Ross Stewart thing is heading and I think we have known it for a while. I suspect the club know it as well but being tight lipped about it. It isn't the first time we have been here. I do not expect a good outcome for us on this with a lot of money down the drain but Sunderland will be thanking a greater being for their bit of fortune from it.
I hope I am seriously proven wrong and I am made to eat my words and that RS ends up being a great success this next season but I am keeping my expectations very low on this matter. | | | |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 20:44 - Jul 25 with 4295 views | TripleNiemi |
Chill 22, only 8 appearances (and one goal) required to be up amongst the dizzy ranks of Delgado. Have faith…..
Trust The Process [Post edited 25 Jul 21:06]
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| Ross stewart on 09:47 - Jul 26 with 4031 views | SaintNick |
I am actually pleasedthat Stewart hasn't appeared yet, what we have to remember is that this is the first pre season training that the player has done since the summer of 2022, pre season is about getting back to full fitness and is intense.
The danger with Stewart and indeed Juan Larios is that they haven't got the core fitness yet to handle the intensity and therefore with muscles that have grown weak from inactivity they could do themselves further damage.
So their pre season has to be different to the rest of the squad, yes they both need games, but not before they are ready. |  |
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| Ross stewart on 10:14 - Jul 26 with 4004 views | saintmark1976 |
| Ross stewart on 09:47 - Jul 26 by SaintNick |
I am actually pleasedthat Stewart hasn't appeared yet, what we have to remember is that this is the first pre season training that the player has done since the summer of 2022, pre season is about getting back to full fitness and is intense.
The danger with Stewart and indeed Juan Larios is that they haven't got the core fitness yet to handle the intensity and therefore with muscles that have grown weak from inactivity they could do themselves further damage.
So their pre season has to be different to the rest of the squad, yes they both need games, but not before they are ready. |
I admire your never ending loyalty to all things S F C but you being pleased he hasn’t appeared yet is surely stretching it to the limits.
£10 million spent on a 28 year old player that so far has contributed three parts of next to nothing over many months is totally ridiculous.
You state that he may well not have the core fitness.Has he not had all of the closed season to obtain the same and hit the ground running when pre season training started ? | |
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| Ross stewart on 10:28 - Jul 26 with 3975 views | dirk_doone |
| Ross stewart on 10:14 - Jul 26 by saintmark1976 |
I admire your never ending loyalty to all things S F C but you being pleased he hasn’t appeared yet is surely stretching it to the limits.
£10 million spent on a 28 year old player that so far has contributed three parts of next to nothing over many months is totally ridiculous.
You state that he may well not have the core fitness.Has he not had all of the closed season to obtain the same and hit the ground running when pre season training started ? |
"I admire your never ending loyalty to all things S F C but you being pleased he hasn’t appeared yet is surely stretching it to the limits."
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| Ross stewart on 10:34 - Jul 26 with 3972 views | saintwizzler |
| Ross stewart on 10:14 - Jul 26 by saintmark1976 |
I admire your never ending loyalty to all things S F C but you being pleased he hasn’t appeared yet is surely stretching it to the limits.
£10 million spent on a 28 year old player that so far has contributed three parts of next to nothing over many months is totally ridiculous.
You state that he may well not have the core fitness.Has he not had all of the closed season to obtain the same and hit the ground running when pre season training started ? |
‘You state that he may well not have the core fitness.Has he not had all of the closed season to obtain the same and hit the ground running when pre season training started ?‘
Agreed, not like they’ve needed a holibobs is it? |  |
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| Ross stewart on 10:43 - Jul 26 with 3960 views | SaintNick |
| Ross stewart on 10:14 - Jul 26 by saintmark1976 |
I admire your never ending loyalty to all things S F C but you being pleased he hasn’t appeared yet is surely stretching it to the limits.
£10 million spent on a 28 year old player that so far has contributed three parts of next to nothing over many months is totally ridiculous.
You state that he may well not have the core fitness.Has he not had all of the closed season to obtain the same and hit the ground running when pre season training started ? |
Its not loyalty to SFC, it is just about taking a rational view of things, I am pleased that SFC are not rushing him back into action, that they are not risking him in what are at the moment meaningless friendlies.
Yes he has had the closed season to build up his fitness, but it is the intensity that is the issue, pre season is intense, it is about getting athletes up to peak performance, it is gruelling, having not brought his muscles etc up to peak levels since January 2023, it is not just as easy as going on a few runs in the closed season and then going into all out intensity.
It is frustrating as you say that Stewart has contributed little in his time here, but i would rather they put him through a proper programme than just stick him back in.
Yes you could counter by saying well he played back in May and yes he did, but 20 mins in a couple of games is not taxing, six weeks of intensive training is | |
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| Ross stewart on 12:20 - Jul 26 with 3893 views | SonicBoom |
It's mad.
What you are saying Nick , is that Stewart STILL isn't fit enough to take part in the very training that is used to get the players fit enough to play!
So once he gets to that level he will then need his own pre-season. He's goig to be weeks behind everyone else. What injury did he actually have ?? |  | | |
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| Ross stewart on 12:28 - Jul 26 with 3877 views | SaintNick |
| Ross stewart on 12:20 - Jul 26 by SonicBoom |
It's mad.
What you are saying Nick , is that Stewart STILL isn't fit enough to take part in the very training that is used to get the players fit enough to play!
So once he gets to that level he will then need his own pre-season. He's goig to be weeks behind everyone else. What injury did he actually have ?? |
I didnt say that at all, I said that he isnt ready to play in a match yet "AND" go to the intensity that is needed.
Stewart hasnt had a problem with his original injury since October when he returned for a couple of games, what his issue was back then was his other muscles did not have the fitness levels and he tore one of them.
Whatever we all think individually of the club, they do have a team of medical professionals who are working on a day to day basis with Stewart & Larios, to bring them up to full fitness levels.
People seem to think it is a simple process, but some players are naturally fitter than others, some players who are perfectly fit and are at peak levels suddenly pull up with a hamstring pull or tear out of nowhere.
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| Ross stewart on 13:54 - Jul 26 with 3769 views | kingslandstand1 |
Could we not have actually bought a player that was fit(ish) when he signed for us? I know strikers are at a premium, but ffs, this is becoming embarrassing
Sunderland must be laughing their socks off |  | | |
| Ross stewart on 14:43 - Jul 26 with 3732 views | saint22 |
| Ross stewart on 09:47 - Jul 26 by SaintNick |
I am actually pleasedthat Stewart hasn't appeared yet, what we have to remember is that this is the first pre season training that the player has done since the summer of 2022, pre season is about getting back to full fitness and is intense.
The danger with Stewart and indeed Juan Larios is that they haven't got the core fitness yet to handle the intensity and therefore with muscles that have grown weak from inactivity they could do themselves further damage.
So their pre season has to be different to the rest of the squad, yes they both need games, but not before they are ready. |
Do me a favour
He should have been on his own programme since the injury and been raring to go come pre season
The fact he is unseen is odd at best
That and the fact we still dont have a good keeper | | | |
| Ross stewart on 15:18 - Jul 26 with 3717 views | LondonSaint76 |
| Ross stewart on 13:54 - Jul 26 by kingslandstand1 |
Could we not have actually bought a player that was fit(ish) when he signed for us? I know strikers are at a premium, but ffs, this is becoming embarrassing
Sunderland must be laughing their socks off |
As it stands, I think Ali Dia has probably clocked up more 1st team minutes than Ross Stewart! |  |
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| Ross stewart on 16:03 - Jul 26 with 3684 views | saintmark1976 |
| Ross stewart on 12:28 - Jul 26 by SaintNick |
I didnt say that at all, I said that he isnt ready to play in a match yet "AND" go to the intensity that is needed.
Stewart hasnt had a problem with his original injury since October when he returned for a couple of games, what his issue was back then was his other muscles did not have the fitness levels and he tore one of them.
Whatever we all think individually of the club, they do have a team of medical professionals who are working on a day to day basis with Stewart & Larios, to bring them up to full fitness levels.
People seem to think it is a simple process, but some players are naturally fitter than others, some players who are perfectly fit and are at peak levels suddenly pull up with a hamstring pull or tear out of nowhere.
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Conclusion then Nick ?
1. Our medical professionals don’t have a clue what they are doing.
2. Stewart has ongoing injury and fitness problems which will never be resolved.
Whichever is the case we appear to have once again wasted a shed load of money. Perhaps the club is intending to recover it by charging £10 to furnish me with a physical season ticket which they were happy to provide me for free previously?
After all it’s not as though we were wanting him to play in a World Cup Final, simply a gentle pre season friendly at Eastleigh. | |
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| Ross stewart on 16:48 - Jul 26 with 3645 views | Berber |
| Ross stewart on 12:20 - Jul 26 by SonicBoom |
It's mad.
What you are saying Nick , is that Stewart STILL isn't fit enough to take part in the very training that is used to get the players fit enough to play!
So once he gets to that level he will then need his own pre-season. He's goig to be weeks behind everyone else. What injury did he actually have ?? |
Let’s give him another season to get fit enough for next pre season.😂 |  |
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| Ross stewart on 17:32 - Jul 26 with 3598 views | yateleysaint |
Jesus himself couldn’t heal this guy. |  |
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| Ross stewart on 11:47 - Jul 27 with 3397 views | SonicBoom |
I get what you're saying nick but the fact remains he currently isn't fit enough to take part in regular pre season training. So he's on his own programme. Then he gets to the level where he can do pre season training, then a match.
So after all last season off, he is still weeks behind the others. I seriously doubt he'll be ready for the start of the season.
I don't really blame the club, it was a gamble and it backfired.
But so far his signing has been disastrous. We've paid him well no doubt, and got nothing back.
Are the club going to take another gamble and hope he gets fit or sign another striker.
We cannot afford to go to January without a striker.
On the positive side he could be fully fit in the next 6 weeks and we finally get to see if he's any good. Let's hope so. | | | |
| Ross stewart on 12:35 - Jul 27 with 3336 views | BLEEDRED |
| Ross stewart on 11:47 - Jul 27 by SonicBoom |
I get what you're saying nick but the fact remains he currently isn't fit enough to take part in regular pre season training. So he's on his own programme. Then he gets to the level where he can do pre season training, then a match.
So after all last season off, he is still weeks behind the others. I seriously doubt he'll be ready for the start of the season.
I don't really blame the club, it was a gamble and it backfired.
But so far his signing has been disastrous. We've paid him well no doubt, and got nothing back.
Are the club going to take another gamble and hope he gets fit or sign another striker.
We cannot afford to go to January without a striker.
On the positive side he could be fully fit in the next 6 weeks and we finally get to see if he's any good. Let's hope so. |
The club has a very good insurance policy on him and if he doesn't play and is forced to retire the club get £20mill [Post edited 27 Jul 13:19]
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| Ross stewart on 14:09 - Jul 27 with 3292 views | saintmark1976 |
| Ross stewart on 12:35 - Jul 27 by BLEEDRED |
The club has a very good insurance policy on him and if he doesn't play and is forced to retire the club get £20mill [Post edited 27 Jul 13:19]
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BLEEDRED, are you seriously suggesting that S F C would have been able to purchase insurance which would indemnify them to the tune of £20 million when it’s suggested they paid only £10 million for his services in the first place ?
Never mind that it was a known fact that Stewart was carrying an injury that precluded him from playing competitively when they first acquired his services.
Sounds extremely optimistic to me given that all insurers are in business to make money.
Perhaps you can elaborate further? | |
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| Ross stewart on 14:49 - Jul 27 with 3271 views | sledger |
doubt theres any insurance as he failed his medical | | | |
| Ross stewart on 15:20 - Jul 27 with 3236 views | saint22 |
| Ross stewart on 14:49 - Jul 27 by sledger |
doubt theres any insurance as he failed his medical |
the failing of his medical sort of raises a flag no?
FFS | | | |
| Ross stewart on 16:20 - Jul 27 with 3192 views | Saintandy66 |
| Ross stewart on 15:20 - Jul 27 by saint22 |
the failing of his medical sort of raises a flag no?
FFS |
I think I read somewhere he has only played 18 games in the last 3 seasons because of injury | | | |
| Ross stewart on 16:24 - Jul 27 with 3180 views | TripleNiemi |
| Ross stewart on 16:20 - Jul 27 by Saintandy66 |
I think I read somewhere he has only played 18 games in the last 3 seasons because of injury |
My Mackem mate was well chuffed when we paid money for him. Said he’s a good player but sadly always injured [Post edited 27 Jul 16:25]
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| Ross stewart on 18:34 - Jul 27 with 3081 views | BLEEDRED |
| Ross stewart on 14:09 - Jul 27 by saintmark1976 |
BLEEDRED, are you seriously suggesting that S F C would have been able to purchase insurance which would indemnify them to the tune of £20 million when it’s suggested they paid only £10 million for his services in the first place ?
Never mind that it was a known fact that Stewart was carrying an injury that precluded him from playing competitively when they first acquired his services.
Sounds extremely optimistic to me given that all insurers are in business to make money.
Perhaps you can elaborate further? |
Of course, I'm not being serious!! You can't insure something for more than you paid (it's called fraud!!) Oh, hang on!
Also, you can't insure something that is already broken/damaged beyond repair. | | | |
| Ross stewart on 19:13 - Jul 27 with 3046 views | arfurdent |
| Ross stewart on 17:32 - Jul 26 by yateleysaint |
Jesus himself couldn’t heal this guy. |
St John resurrected would be more use |  |
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| Ross stewart on 19:20 - Jul 27 with 3038 views | saintmark1976 |
| Ross stewart on 18:34 - Jul 27 by BLEEDRED |
Of course, I'm not being serious!! You can't insure something for more than you paid (it's called fraud!!) Oh, hang on!
Also, you can't insure something that is already broken/damaged beyond repair. |
Glad you cleared that up BLEEDRED. For one moment I thought you had made a serious contribution. | |
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