| Who the heck do we vote for 18:34 - Aug 31 with 8287 views | shingle |
Had a discussion on this with my mates and we all agreed that voting for the Tories is a no no after the mess they have caused and what has happened to the country under them, and Labour seem like a disaster waiting to happen with there rudderless policies it seems they cannot explain how they will carry out everything they propose if you think the immigration situation is bad now just wait to see how bad it gets under them, we have been told just how bad the Lib Dems have been in the past and Plaid are also of no benefit either, the younger generations futures look bleak as fcuk under either of those lot so just who can we vote for. |  | | |  |
| Who the heck do we vote for on 11:27 - Sep 1 with 1336 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Who the heck do we vote for on 10:28 - Sep 1 by controversial_jack |
Yes, i know it was a Tory idea, but Labour has expanded it, not to mention this forthcoming 20 mpg limit |
Yes it was a good idea to introduce it streets that needed it like outside schools and very narrow residential streets. A good motorist would have slowed down anyway in those streets.
Unfortunately Drakeford Labour have made it a blanket restriction irrespective of the safety benefits. Even the report Drakeford commissioned say that deaths MIGHT reduce by upto 10 a year. Far more people will die as a result of the increase in air pollution with cars pumping out more fumes in low gear.
Labour's Sadiq Khan tries to reduce pollution and deaths by taxing polluting vehicles while Labour's Drakeford tries to increase pollution. | |
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| Who the heck do we vote for on 12:13 - Sep 1 with 1312 views | gadgetuk |
I live right on the edge of the ulez zone. I can turn out of my street and as long as I don't turn right into one of the side streets I am fine. The expansion of ulez was part of the conditions of the tfl bailout package and in principle I have no issue with it but the timing is awful with everyone struggling financially.
The problem is that I don't think we've seen the full picture yet. In a few years time there will be almost no cars going into a ulez zone that aren't compliant, certainly not enough to cover the running costs of the scheme.
I'm fully expecting some kind of pay per mile scheme to come in within a few years [Post edited 1 Sep 2023 15:36]
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| Who the heck do we vote for on 12:22 - Sep 1 with 1306 views | Whiterockin |
| Who the heck do we vote for on 11:11 - Sep 1 by Scotia |
Why is that? |
Because if I feel there are no candidates worth voting for why should I be forced to vote for a candidate who I don't agree with. |  | | |
| Who the heck do we vote for on 12:28 - Sep 1 with 1287 views | Scotia |
| Who the heck do we vote for on 12:22 - Sep 1 by Whiterockin |
Because if I feel there are no candidates worth voting for why should I be forced to vote for a candidate who I don't agree with. |
You could either spoil the paper or vote for a "none of the above" option. | | | |
| Who the heck do we vote for on 12:38 - Sep 1 with 1283 views | Whiterockin |
| Who the heck do we vote for on 12:28 - Sep 1 by Scotia |
You could either spoil the paper or vote for a "none of the above" option. |
Then it's pretty pointless forcing someone to vote. | | | |
| Who the heck do we vote for on 12:56 - Sep 1 with 1250 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Who the heck do we vote for on 12:38 - Sep 1 by Whiterockin |
Then it's pretty pointless forcing someone to vote. |
No, because they get counted it registers the fact that you are not happy to vote for any of them and at least sends the message.
Whereas not voting could be construed as just apathy or laziness. | | | |
| Who the heck do we vote for on 13:02 - Sep 1 with 1235 views | Whiterockin |
| Who the heck do we vote for on 12:56 - Sep 1 by A_Fans_Dad |
No, because they get counted it registers the fact that you are not happy to vote for any of them and at least sends the message.
Whereas not voting could be construed as just apathy or laziness. |
Fair enough | | | |
| Who the heck do we vote for on 13:03 - Sep 1 with 1232 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Who the heck do we vote for on 09:43 - Sep 1 by Boundy |
whistle down the wind , he'll never answer |
No, he never does. He just makes himself look perenially silly by ignoring stuff though. He'll probably come back with something completely irrelevant, that's his usual thing. | | | |
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| Who the heck do we vote for on 13:21 - Sep 1 with 1226 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Who the heck do we vote for on 12:28 - Sep 1 by Scotia |
You could either spoil the paper or vote for a "none of the above" option. |
You can do that now! |  |
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| Who the heck do we vote for on 13:41 - Sep 1 with 1211 views | Scotia |
Yes, but you don't have demonstrate that. So political parties only have to appeal to the demographics that do vote.
If everyone had to at least register their unwillingness to vote for any of the candidates the candidates would have to work harder for each vote they received. | | | |
| Who the heck do we vote for on 13:47 - Sep 1 with 1208 views | angryjack |
So if everyone paid the 12.50 ulez how would that reduce emissions then?,wake up its just a con | | | |
| Who the heck do we vote for on 14:13 - Sep 1 with 1180 views | trampie |
A Communist type party if there was one on offer would be the way to go, Capitalism has failed ordinary people, right wing nationalist parties are sweeping the world, low taxes resulting in low spending governments with low living standards, exploitation and wars is what a lot of people will have to look forward too. |  |
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| Who the heck do we vote for on 14:30 - Sep 1 with 1176 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Who the heck do we vote for on 14:13 - Sep 1 by trampie |
A Communist type party if there was one on offer would be the way to go, Capitalism has failed ordinary people, right wing nationalist parties are sweeping the world, low taxes resulting in low spending governments with low living standards, exploitation and wars is what a lot of people will have to look forward too. |
Yeah because living under Mao and Stalin and Pol Pot was just lovely. | |
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| Who the heck do we vote for on 14:36 - Sep 1 with 1141 views | trampie |
| Who the heck do we vote for on 14:30 - Sep 1 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Yeah because living under Mao and Stalin and Pol Pot was just lovely. |
Same as Hitler and Mussolini. | |
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| Who the heck do we vote for on 14:48 - Sep 1 with 1138 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Who the heck do we vote for on 14:36 - Sep 1 by trampie |
Same as Hitler and Mussolini. |
Agreed. | |
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| Who the heck do we vote for on 16:58 - Sep 1 with 1092 views | Boundy |
| Who the heck do we vote for on 14:36 - Sep 1 by trampie |
Same as Hitler and Mussolini. |
That's why we live in democratic country ,neither of which included in certain periods. Germany ,Italy etc | |
| "In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master." |
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| Who the heck do we vote for on 17:14 - Sep 1 with 1089 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Who the heck do we vote for on 13:47 - Sep 1 by angryjack |
So if everyone paid the 12.50 ulez how would that reduce emissions then?,wake up its just a con |
It wouldn't, obviously. It's an attempt to force people to change their cars but it just may mean people who cannot afford to just cannot afford to runa car at all and there's possible negative knock on effects there too.
The poorest will be hit the hardest, as usual. | | | |
| Who the heck do we vote for on 07:26 - Sep 2 with 1039 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Who the heck do we vote for on 17:14 - Sep 1 by SullutaCreturned |
It wouldn't, obviously. It's an attempt to force people to change their cars but it just may mean people who cannot afford to just cannot afford to runa car at all and there's possible negative knock on effects there too.
The poorest will be hit the hardest, as usual. |
Yes, I find it baffling how people ignore the impact on those who can not afford a new car, £12:50 a day is punishing for those struggling to make ends meet. |  |
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| Who the heck do we vote for on 20:42 - Sep 2 with 967 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Who the heck do we vote for on 08:13 - Sep 1 by SullutaCreturned |
Are you saying the rules are fine so let the MP's carry on as they are?
Are you saying our three main parties have been anything besides an abject failure?
Are you saying we don't need change?
If we do need chqnge how do you expect that to happen when the cause of the problem are the people we'd expect to make the changes? |
I am saying that Independents are usually just Tories who know that if the stand as a Tory they will lose. Its a con.
Thats why the post was nonsense. |  |
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| Who the heck do we vote for on 09:35 - Sep 3 with 914 views | controversial_jack |
| Who the heck do we vote for on 07:26 - Sep 2 by JACKMANANDBOY |
Yes, I find it baffling how people ignore the impact on those who can not afford a new car, £12:50 a day is punishing for those struggling to make ends meet. |
Especially for tradesmen who have older diesel vans and trucks | | | |
| Who the heck do we vote for on 16:23 - Sep 3 with 844 views | controversial_jack |
NPT had Labour voted out in the last council elections, but the alternative hasn't improved anything at all | | | |
| Who the heck do we vote for on 11:48 - Sep 4 with 792 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Who the heck do we vote for on 14:36 - Sep 1 by trampie |
Same as Hitler and Mussolini. |
Correct they were dictators. Which of course you don't get with democracies | |
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| Who the heck do we vote for on 11:53 - Sep 4 with 790 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Who the heck do we vote for on 16:23 - Sep 3 by controversial_jack |
NPT had Labour voted out in the last council elections, but the alternative hasn't improved anything at all |
Wales keeps voting Labour and things have not unproven in the last 20 years. In fact most things have got considerably worse.
Welsh NHS, Welsh education, road congestion, unemployment. | |
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| Who the heck do we vote for on 12:16 - Sep 4 with 777 views | pencoedjack |
| Who the heck do we vote for on 11:53 - Sep 4 by felixstowe_jack |
Wales keeps voting Labour and things have not unproven in the last 20 years. In fact most things have got considerably worse.
Welsh NHS, Welsh education, road congestion, unemployment. |
Wales will always vote Labour & then moan about how they govern.
I really do not know how I will vote in the next election but I am expecting the Lib Dems to do well which will be another nail in the coffin of this country. |  | | |
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