| Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 01:44 - Sep 12 with 1411 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 01:40 - Sep 12 by WalterBoyd |
Were you there ?
I find that watching matches on tv don't give you the full picture.
Before you ask, yes I was there.
Were you there? |
No, I live the other side of the world.
I disagree however, it’s amazing how much people miss at the games. The amount of times I’ve had to pull up footage to prove my point against someone swearing blind they saw something that never happened is incredible.
Which part of what I said do you disagree with exactly then? Be specific. Or are you just throwing your toys out of the pram in a general way and hoping that will suffice?
It won’t, by the way. [Post edited 12 Sep 2021 2:09]
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| Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 01:45 - Sep 12 with 1416 views | jasper_T |
| Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 01:40 - Sep 12 by WalterBoyd |
Were you there ?
I find that watching matches on tv don't give you the full picture.
Before you ask, yes I was there.
Were you there? |
If he was there would you start on about what row he was sat in next? Give it a rest. |  | | |
| Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 01:49 - Sep 12 with 1387 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 01:45 - Sep 12 by jasper_T |
If he was there would you start on about what row he was sat in next? Give it a rest. |
It appears we have a new troll to play with, judging from various comments made tonight. | |
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| Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 02:10 - Sep 12 with 1357 views | AndyCole |
The ever increasing trolls are more akin to little pesky gremlins. The wetter they get the more we see. Ever diluting. Ever more marginalised.
The standard of constructive critique and analysis is waning. The sheeple are amassing.
RM needs to find a winning formula, asap.
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Anti gang-bullying and poor modding thereof -
Will always make a stand against those who consistently choose to turn a blind eye |
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| Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 02:19 - Sep 12 with 1352 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 02:10 - Sep 12 by AndyCole |
The ever increasing trolls are more akin to little pesky gremlins. The wetter they get the more we see. Ever diluting. Ever more marginalised.
The standard of constructive critique and analysis is waning. The sheeple are amassing.
RM needs to find a winning formula, asap.
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He certainly does.
I have noticed on a few occasions “give it 10 games” is now steadily creeping up to “10-15 games”. Is this a cycle that just continually moves indefinitely until we reach, what? 50? 100?
He needs to start getting results on the board. No other manager in our modern history has needed months and months to change the style and get results. It’s baffling why people are insisting this is the case here.
We have a squad that has been fairly heavily invested in. We have spent more this season than the last two combined and more than the majority of the league.
We have spent £5m haven’t we? Is that more than any amount we have ever spent at this level?
We need to see results. [Post edited 12 Sep 2021 2:22]
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| Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 02:25 - Sep 12 with 1349 views | WalterBoyd |
| Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 01:45 - Sep 12 by jasper_T |
If he was there would you start on about what row he was sat in next? Give it a rest. |
Wind your neck in Jasper
I replied to his question
"Watch the whole of every match.
You?"
I have watched live matches, then watched same match on tv later and the full game not reflected in the highlights, or tv coverage.
Sorry Jasper if that offends you. | | | |
| Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 02:30 - Sep 12 with 1341 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 02:25 - Sep 12 by WalterBoyd |
Wind your neck in Jasper
I replied to his question
"Watch the whole of every match.
You?"
I have watched live matches, then watched same match on tv later and the full game not reflected in the highlights, or tv coverage.
Sorry Jasper if that offends you. |
That’s because they are highlights.
Watching a full match on TV, from multiple angles, with access to replays and various vantage points is infinitely better than being at a single vantage point.
So back to the point. Which point do you think I missed? Specifically.
Are you saying that we created far more chances and the camera decided to hide it? Are you saying we had far more attacking intent and good incisive forward passes were disguised as negative passes by the camera?
Explain. | |
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| Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 02:37 - Sep 12 with 1343 views | WalterBoyd |
| Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 02:30 - Sep 12 by Dr_Parnassus |
That’s because they are highlights.
Watching a full match on TV, from multiple angles, with access to replays and various vantage points is infinitely better than being at a single vantage point.
So back to the point. Which point do you think I missed? Specifically.
Are you saying that we created far more chances and the camera decided to hide it? Are you saying we had far more attacking intent and good incisive forward passes were disguised as negative passes by the camera?
Explain. |
Answer all questions asked and then let's move on.
Simple really
All the smoke screens are just backing that everyone on this site has previously accused you of. It gets a bit boring. | | | |
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| Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 02:39 - Sep 12 with 1336 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 02:37 - Sep 12 by WalterBoyd |
Answer all questions asked and then let's move on.
Simple really
All the smoke screens are just backing that everyone on this site has previously accused you of. It gets a bit boring. |
Which question would you like me to answer specifically?
This mystery question that only you seem to be able to see is becoming intriguing. | |
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| Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 02:48 - Sep 12 with 1335 views | WalterBoyd |
| Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 02:39 - Sep 12 by Dr_Parnassus |
Which question would you like me to answer specifically?
This mystery question that only you seem to be able to see is becoming intriguing. |
I truly pity you. Learn to answer a question, it's not hard.
Have a good life.
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| Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 02:49 - Sep 12 with 1328 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 02:48 - Sep 12 by WalterBoyd |
I truly pity you. Learn to answer a question, it's not hard.
Have a good life.
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So there was no question and you were just looking for attention as I thought then.
Glad that is cleared up. | |
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| Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 09:00 - Sep 12 with 1162 views | onehunglow |
| Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 02:48 - Sep 12 by WalterBoyd |
I truly pity you. Learn to answer a question, it's not hard.
Have a good life.
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Frankly,that kind of comment is appalling.
You not what is going on in his life | |
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| Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 09:16 - Sep 12 with 1153 views | Whiterockin |
| Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 01:40 - Sep 12 by WalterBoyd |
Were you there ?
I find that watching matches on tv don't give you the full picture.
Before you ask, yes I was there.
Were you there? |
I find that watching matches on tv don't give you the full picture.
I entirely agree with this statement. You need your own eyes to see the whole pitch and picture of how play is panning out. I have seen over the years the people who complain the most and often rely on stats to back up their argument, are often the ones who rarely attend the live matches. I would say that when leaving yesterday the majority there were very pleased with the performance and felt we were unlucky. |  | | |
| Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 09:20 - Sep 12 with 1135 views | onehunglow |
| Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 09:16 - Sep 12 by Whiterockin |
I find that watching matches on tv don't give you the full picture.
I entirely agree with this statement. You need your own eyes to see the whole pitch and picture of how play is panning out. I have seen over the years the people who complain the most and often rely on stats to back up their argument, are often the ones who rarely attend the live matches. I would say that when leaving yesterday the majority there were very pleased with the performance and felt we were unlucky. |
Martin has described the performance as being "outstanding". Seems he's trying to be like Brendan but there the similiarity ends
Were we outstanding and if so in what way. | |
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| Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 09:23 - Sep 12 with 1138 views | Whiterockin |
| Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 09:20 - Sep 12 by onehunglow |
Martin has described the performance as being "outstanding". Seems he's trying to be like Brendan but there the similiarity ends
Were we outstanding and if so in what way. |
My statement stands. | | | |
| Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 10:00 - Sep 12 with 1081 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 09:16 - Sep 12 by Whiterockin |
I find that watching matches on tv don't give you the full picture.
I entirely agree with this statement. You need your own eyes to see the whole pitch and picture of how play is panning out. I have seen over the years the people who complain the most and often rely on stats to back up their argument, are often the ones who rarely attend the live matches. I would say that when leaving yesterday the majority there were very pleased with the performance and felt we were unlucky. |
Disagree. One of the first things football teams do the following day is re-watch the game and analyse it. Undoubtedly there are things picked up on the various angles that was not at the time. It’s rare you can say it the other way around.
It’s one of those fans myths that perpetuate Internet forums. Like bidding wars and “last man rule”. All myths. | |
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| Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 10:02 - Sep 12 with 1079 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 09:20 - Sep 12 by onehunglow |
Martin has described the performance as being "outstanding". Seems he's trying to be like Brendan but there the similiarity ends
Were we outstanding and if so in what way. |
Well apparently if you were sat in a seat watching it as opposed to watching it from multiple angles, we were excellent. Bloody cameras eh?  | |
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| Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 11:12 - Sep 12 with 1016 views | swan_si |
| Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 01:07 - Sep 12 by WalterBoyd |
Do you think we deserved any penalties today?
Did you watch the whole match today ?
Have you anything positive to say ? |
Do you think we deserved any penalties today?
Yes absolutely, we should have had at least one, definite foul on Laird.
Did you watch the whole match today?
Yes ( but unfortunately could not attend).
Have you anything positive to say?
I thought there was a vast improvement in our play, I thought we past it quicker and our movement off the ball was better, drawing player with us to create space for players like Downes and Naughton to push forward.
Playing against a Hull team who were happy to defend with 11 men behind the ball for most of the match was always going to be hard, we have ourselves in the past done a Hull, and defended against a better team for most of a match, and gone on to praise our defence for holding out for a point, and keeping a clean sheet, yet when Hull managed to do it some are still not happy with the performance of a Swans side that had numerous shots blocked or saved.
Looking at the stats from bbc sport we had 16 shots 4 on target, although I'd query the 4 on target, their goalkeeper saved at least 4 without the blocks and some still aren't happy.
There is obviously an improvement, I don't think we'll be playing such defensive teams every week, Hull showed no ambition yesterday, they achieved their goal, they got the point they came for.
I hope our next game will be more open, then we should be able to make a better assessment of where we are in terms of improvement.
Reading some of the comments, I'd like to know how many goals would we have needed to win by to make some people happy, if Matty's free kick had gone in, or if we were awarded and scored a penalty would their opinions be different. |  | | |
| Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 11:16 - Sep 12 with 1006 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 01:40 - Sep 12 by WalterBoyd |
Were you there ?
I find that watching matches on tv don't give you the full picture.
Before you ask, yes I was there.
Were you there? |
I think he lives in Australia. |  |
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| Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 11:20 - Sep 12 with 985 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 11:12 - Sep 12 by swan_si |
Do you think we deserved any penalties today?
Yes absolutely, we should have had at least one, definite foul on Laird.
Did you watch the whole match today?
Yes ( but unfortunately could not attend).
Have you anything positive to say?
I thought there was a vast improvement in our play, I thought we past it quicker and our movement off the ball was better, drawing player with us to create space for players like Downes and Naughton to push forward.
Playing against a Hull team who were happy to defend with 11 men behind the ball for most of the match was always going to be hard, we have ourselves in the past done a Hull, and defended against a better team for most of a match, and gone on to praise our defence for holding out for a point, and keeping a clean sheet, yet when Hull managed to do it some are still not happy with the performance of a Swans side that had numerous shots blocked or saved.
Looking at the stats from bbc sport we had 16 shots 4 on target, although I'd query the 4 on target, their goalkeeper saved at least 4 without the blocks and some still aren't happy.
There is obviously an improvement, I don't think we'll be playing such defensive teams every week, Hull showed no ambition yesterday, they achieved their goal, they got the point they came for.
I hope our next game will be more open, then we should be able to make a better assessment of where we are in terms of improvement.
Reading some of the comments, I'd like to know how many goals would we have needed to win by to make some people happy, if Matty's free kick had gone in, or if we were awarded and scored a penalty would their opinions be different. |
A penalty or a free kick being the source of goals was one of the main concerns for people in the past.
The first one was a penalty in my opinion, the second one wasn’t, defender just stood there as he is entitled to do.
I think people are expecting us to have some sort of incisive attacks with 70% of the ball. To have 70% of the ball and look back at the game and point to a penalty shout and a free kick as the most likely source of a goal - then I think people will rightly raise some concerns. | |
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| Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 11:24 - Sep 12 with 981 views | onehunglow |
| Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 01:44 - Sep 12 by Dr_Parnassus |
No, I live the other side of the world.
I disagree however, it’s amazing how much people miss at the games. The amount of times I’ve had to pull up footage to prove my point against someone swearing blind they saw something that never happened is incredible.
Which part of what I said do you disagree with exactly then? Be specific. Or are you just throwing your toys out of the pram in a general way and hoping that will suffice?
It won’t, by the way. [Post edited 12 Sep 2021 2:09]
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TV cameras have more coverage than the naked eye.
They give the whole picture.
Whilst there, you are often myopic and miss much. | |
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| Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 11:26 - Sep 12 with 983 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 11:12 - Sep 12 by swan_si |
Do you think we deserved any penalties today?
Yes absolutely, we should have had at least one, definite foul on Laird.
Did you watch the whole match today?
Yes ( but unfortunately could not attend).
Have you anything positive to say?
I thought there was a vast improvement in our play, I thought we past it quicker and our movement off the ball was better, drawing player with us to create space for players like Downes and Naughton to push forward.
Playing against a Hull team who were happy to defend with 11 men behind the ball for most of the match was always going to be hard, we have ourselves in the past done a Hull, and defended against a better team for most of a match, and gone on to praise our defence for holding out for a point, and keeping a clean sheet, yet when Hull managed to do it some are still not happy with the performance of a Swans side that had numerous shots blocked or saved.
Looking at the stats from bbc sport we had 16 shots 4 on target, although I'd query the 4 on target, their goalkeeper saved at least 4 without the blocks and some still aren't happy.
There is obviously an improvement, I don't think we'll be playing such defensive teams every week, Hull showed no ambition yesterday, they achieved their goal, they got the point they came for.
I hope our next game will be more open, then we should be able to make a better assessment of where we are in terms of improvement.
Reading some of the comments, I'd like to know how many goals would we have needed to win by to make some people happy, if Matty's free kick had gone in, or if we were awarded and scored a penalty would their opinions be different. |
No unfortunately not. They would say that Hull were so bad we should have scored 17. The problem is they’re so upset being proved wrong by our catastrophic end to last season and play off failure that they have dedicated their pathetic lives to sniping at our new manager and players . Steve didn’t organize the players Pre season (even though he was getting Pauli’s for it) , Steve filled our side with loanees that meant a bear total rebuild in crucial positions, Steve messed up last season and he didn’t have the courage to carry on this season. Russell Martin is showing he has that courage and an eye for a real player but he gets slated.
It’s almost as if they’d prefer the Team to fail just to reassure their fragile little egos “see, I was right all along”. Unfortunately they aren’t. They are very sad people. | |
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| Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 11:31 - Sep 12 with 961 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 11:24 - Sep 12 by onehunglow |
TV cameras have more coverage than the naked eye.
They give the whole picture.
Whilst there, you are often myopic and miss much. |
Correct.
When I used to live in the country, if the game I was at was televised, then I would ensure I recorded it to probably watch it again, knowing I would likely miss a fair bit while at the game for a variety of reasons.
I always remember leaving the vetch swearing that Martin Thomas’ goal against West Ham was deflected. When I watched it back it was clear that it was incredible swerve.
I don’t think I have ever needed to rewatch a game I have watched on the telly though… except to prove to someone who was there that what they thought happened - didn’t. | |
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| Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 11:43 - Sep 12 with 950 views | onehunglow |
| Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 09:23 - Sep 12 by Whiterockin |
My statement stands. |
and so it should . Good for you.
So do mine | |
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| Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 11:45 - Sep 12 with 943 views | onehunglow |
| Swansea City v Hull City : Matchday Thread 2021/22 *SATURDAY UPDATE on 11:16 - Sep 12 by Brynmill_Jack |
I think he lives in Australia. |
Aye and they have telly there too.
It's 2021 too
Bluddy Ausies innit | |
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