| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects 06:37 - May 16 with 13988 views | RonaldStump |
What is the real source of truth for the latest rise in cases in Glasgow?
6 people who have had the vaccine are currently being treated for complications in Glasgow.
What is the REAL truth?
Isn't it strange how vaccinated people are coming down with the CHY NA virus (Kung Flu) or one of it's variant double or triple mutant versions?
It's either the jab doesn't do what it's supposed to or it actually does?
With no long term studies on this new medicine miracle, but plenty coming out about the effects it's having on the immune system.
Why is there a need for healthy people to get jabbed when they have a 99.7% chance of surviving anyway. (more to the point why are we jabbing our kids?)
Far more questions than answers at the moment
cue Anti vaxxer abuse from the usual crowd! [Post edited 16 May 2021 6:57]
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| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 07:38 - May 16 with 3005 views | felixstowe_jack |
Vaccine has saved over 12,000 lives so far in UK alone and prevented 30,000 hospital admissions.
Yet still the antivaxers think think it is safer to catch the virus. | |
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| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 08:04 - May 16 with 2995 views | Scotia |
Just one person in hospital has been fully vaccinated.
Considering no vaccine is 100% effective against any disease. That is impressive.
No anti-vax abuse from me. You just post complete BS. | | | |
| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 08:28 - May 16 with 2986 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
I have been vaccinated, but still have concerns about the unknown long term effects, nobody in the world knows what these could be. |  |
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| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 08:38 - May 16 with 2977 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 08:28 - May 16 by JACKMANANDBOY |
I have been vaccinated, but still have concerns about the unknown long term effects, nobody in the world knows what these could be. |
I had the smallpox vaccine in the early 60s should I still worry about the long term effects as it was only just 60 years ago? | |
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| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 09:23 - May 16 with 2943 views | RonaldStump |
| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 08:38 - May 16 by felixstowe_jack |
I had the smallpox vaccine in the early 60s should I still worry about the long term effects as it was only just 60 years ago? |
Smallpox vaccine was fully tested and went through the full process!
This one got to animal testing but stopped due to all the animals dying.
That is why it’s humans who are the ongoing clinical trials, it’s there in black and white
For all to read.
And that is the ONLY reason a lot more of people are looking for answers or some sort of debate instead of coercion and blame for killing other people if you don’t have it, anti vaccine Yada yada zzzzz
Some of you have been brainwashed by MSM propaganda and you don’t even know it | |
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| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 09:28 - May 16 with 2940 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 08:38 - May 16 by felixstowe_jack |
I had the smallpox vaccine in the early 60s should I still worry about the long term effects as it was only just 60 years ago? |
Jenner started work on the smallpox vaccine over 150 years before you were vaccinated. | |
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| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 09:31 - May 16 with 2931 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 09:23 - May 16 by RonaldStump |
Smallpox vaccine was fully tested and went through the full process!
This one got to animal testing but stopped due to all the animals dying.
That is why it’s humans who are the ongoing clinical trials, it’s there in black and white
For all to read.
And that is the ONLY reason a lot more of people are looking for answers or some sort of debate instead of coercion and blame for killing other people if you don’t have it, anti vaccine Yada yada zzzzz
Some of you have been brainwashed by MSM propaganda and you don’t even know it |
Not sure all the animals died? What has been missed out is the longer term life cycle testing for example. | |
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| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 10:15 - May 16 with 2902 views | Scotia |
| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 09:23 - May 16 by RonaldStump |
Smallpox vaccine was fully tested and went through the full process!
This one got to animal testing but stopped due to all the animals dying.
That is why it’s humans who are the ongoing clinical trials, it’s there in black and white
For all to read.
And that is the ONLY reason a lot more of people are looking for answers or some sort of debate instead of coercion and blame for killing other people if you don’t have it, anti vaccine Yada yada zzzzz
Some of you have been brainwashed by MSM propaganda and you don’t even know it |
If its there for all to read, post a link to it. | | | |
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| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 10:28 - May 16 with 2888 views | MrSwerve |
Personally I’m calling the Indian variant ‘Vindaflu’. |  |
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| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 10:41 - May 16 with 2866 views | Professor |
| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 10:15 - May 16 by Scotia |
If its there for all to read, post a link to it. |
It’s complete BS. All the vaccines were tested for safety and efficacy in animals. For example the AZ was tested in Rhesus Macaques very early in development. All have gone through large-scale human trials which are also ongoing for some newer vaccines. This crap is killing people. | | | |
| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 10:44 - May 16 with 2859 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 10:41 - May 16 by Professor |
It’s complete BS. All the vaccines were tested for safety and efficacy in animals. For example the AZ was tested in Rhesus Macaques very early in development. All have gone through large-scale human trials which are also ongoing for some newer vaccines. This crap is killing people. |
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| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 10:48 - May 16 with 2847 views | KeithHaynes |
| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 10:41 - May 16 by Professor |
It’s complete BS. All the vaccines were tested for safety and efficacy in animals. For example the AZ was tested in Rhesus Macaques very early in development. All have gone through large-scale human trials which are also ongoing for some newer vaccines. This crap is killing people. |
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| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 10:49 - May 16 with 2830 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 10:41 - May 16 by Professor |
It’s complete BS. All the vaccines were tested for safety and efficacy in animals. For example the AZ was tested in Rhesus Macaques very early in development. All have gone through large-scale human trials which are also ongoing for some newer vaccines. This crap is killing people. |
You are correct.
https://welovetrump.com/2021/05/10/cdc-admits-more-dead-from-covid-19-vaccine-th | | | |
| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 10:51 - May 16 with 2830 views | Whiterockin |
Have you had the vaccine? |  | | |
| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 11:16 - May 16 with 2799 views | Scotia |
What a pile of guff.
4000 people have died after having the vaccine? Well seeing as 250 million doses have been given to an overwhelming majority of elderly, sick and vulnerable people is it any surprise that some have died afterwards? For some reason.
That link also goes on to say that the CDC found no causal relationship.
So the story here is really that old and sick people die. | | | |
| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 11:22 - May 16 with 2792 views | Professor |
| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 11:16 - May 16 by Scotia |
What a pile of guff.
4000 people have died after having the vaccine? Well seeing as 250 million doses have been given to an overwhelming majority of elderly, sick and vulnerable people is it any surprise that some have died afterwards? For some reason.
That link also goes on to say that the CDC found no causal relationship.
So the story here is really that old and sick people die. |
Absolutely; and this is what the MHRA Yellow Card Scheme is showing in the U.K.. There are few serious adverse effects with any of the 3 vaccines used in the U.K.
if anything minor adverse effects are being over reported. | | | |
| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 12:13 - May 16 with 2742 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 11:16 - May 16 by Scotia |
What a pile of guff.
4000 people have died after having the vaccine? Well seeing as 250 million doses have been given to an overwhelming majority of elderly, sick and vulnerable people is it any surprise that some have died afterwards? For some reason.
That link also goes on to say that the CDC found no causal relationship.
So the story here is really that old and sick people die. |
Yes, the CDC doesn't know what it is talking about when it says these COVID Vaccines are far more deadly than all the past Vaccines put together.
They are just fear mongering anti vaxxers.
You seem to think that only old sick people have died immediately after having the Vaccine.
I suggest that you aquaint yourself with the facts. | | | |
| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 12:18 - May 16 with 2745 views | Professor |
| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 12:13 - May 16 by A_Fans_Dad |
Yes, the CDC doesn't know what it is talking about when it says these COVID Vaccines are far more deadly than all the past Vaccines put together.
They are just fear mongering anti vaxxers.
You seem to think that only old sick people have died immediately after having the Vaccine.
I suggest that you aquaint yourself with the facts. |
Except ‘welovetrump.com’ is not accurate as to what the CDC have actually said. | | | |
| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 12:23 - May 16 with 2741 views | RonaldStump |
| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 11:22 - May 16 by Professor |
Absolutely; and this is what the MHRA Yellow Card Scheme is showing in the U.K.. There are few serious adverse effects with any of the 3 vaccines used in the U.K.
if anything minor adverse effects are being over reported. |
Over reported. Vaccine deaths and adverse effects are the complete opposite to that and very under reported. | |
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| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 12:25 - May 16 with 2718 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 11:22 - May 16 by Professor |
Absolutely; and this is what the MHRA Yellow Card Scheme is showing in the U.K.. There are few serious adverse effects with any of the 3 vaccines used in the U.K.
if anything minor adverse effects are being over reported. |
You posted "the AZ was tested in Rhesus Macaques very early in development."
How many thousands were tested?
What "long term" problems could they identify in 6 to 9 months?
How representative of the Human population are "Rhesus Macaques".
Do they have Heart trouble?,
COPD?,
pre-disposition to Blood Clots?
Diabetes?
Overweight?
What medication were they already on, HRT?
Birth control pill?
Heart Medication?
Hypertension Medication?
Were the already exposed to COVID19 viruses?
Were they exposed to COVID19 viruses 6 months or a year afterwards?
You seem to think that anybody, Doctors and Scientists included, who ask questions about safety are all nutters and anti-vaxxers. But they have genuine concerns which you brush of with glib statements.
If it is completely safe to produce drugs and vaccines in 6 to 9 months why has it taken years in the past? | | | |
| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 12:29 - May 16 with 2712 views | RonaldStump |
| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 12:25 - May 16 by A_Fans_Dad |
You posted "the AZ was tested in Rhesus Macaques very early in development."
How many thousands were tested?
What "long term" problems could they identify in 6 to 9 months?
How representative of the Human population are "Rhesus Macaques".
Do they have Heart trouble?,
COPD?,
pre-disposition to Blood Clots?
Diabetes?
Overweight?
What medication were they already on, HRT?
Birth control pill?
Heart Medication?
Hypertension Medication?
Were the already exposed to COVID19 viruses?
Were they exposed to COVID19 viruses 6 months or a year afterwards?
You seem to think that anybody, Doctors and Scientists included, who ask questions about safety are all nutters and anti-vaxxers. But they have genuine concerns which you brush of with glib statements.
If it is completely safe to produce drugs and vaccines in 6 to 9 months why has it taken years in the past? |
And the biggest and probably more telling question
Why have the companies been absolved of any liability. | |
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| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 12:35 - May 16 with 2687 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 12:29 - May 16 by RonaldStump |
And the biggest and probably more telling question
Why have the companies been absolved of any liability. |
For the same reason the that the US FDA has not given these Vaccines for anything other than "Emergency use".
They are still experimental by normal vaccine standards. | | | |
| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 12:35 - May 16 with 2699 views | Scotia |
| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 12:13 - May 16 by A_Fans_Dad |
Yes, the CDC doesn't know what it is talking about when it says these COVID Vaccines are far more deadly than all the past Vaccines put together.
They are just fear mongering anti vaxxers.
You seem to think that only old sick people have died immediately after having the Vaccine.
I suggest that you aquaint yourself with the facts. |
I suggest you read links before you post them, asking you to understand them is futile because you're mind is already made up.
That is what that pathetic fan site says and not the CDC. | | | |
| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 12:36 - May 16 with 2699 views | Jack123 |
I am very hesitant to take it, I'm going to see how things pan out over the winter.
As far as I can see at the moment, the government are already back tracking on their promises to people, look at what drakeford did on Friday, wasn't able to ease some restrictions due to a few cases of the Indian variant.
They contradict themselves time and time again, why the rush to vaccinate the ones who we have been told since the start that it does not affect the young and healthy, I notice the msm always use words like 'may' when talking about transmission. |  |
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| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 13:01 - May 16 with 2674 views | Professor |
| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 12:25 - May 16 by A_Fans_Dad |
You posted "the AZ was tested in Rhesus Macaques very early in development."
How many thousands were tested?
What "long term" problems could they identify in 6 to 9 months?
How representative of the Human population are "Rhesus Macaques".
Do they have Heart trouble?,
COPD?,
pre-disposition to Blood Clots?
Diabetes?
Overweight?
What medication were they already on, HRT?
Birth control pill?
Heart Medication?
Hypertension Medication?
Were the already exposed to COVID19 viruses?
Were they exposed to COVID19 viruses 6 months or a year afterwards?
You seem to think that anybody, Doctors and Scientists included, who ask questions about safety are all nutters and anti-vaxxers. But they have genuine concerns which you brush of with glib statements.
If it is completely safe to produce drugs and vaccines in 6 to 9 months why has it taken years in the past? |
You truly are clueless. Primate studies were done early to check efficacy and the vaccine did not have huge side effects. A small NHP trial costs about £250k, but are critical when there are no other animal models (which is still partly the case). Lies were said there were no animal studies here. Yes lies. There have also been numerous human trials . Close to 10,000 people in U.K., Brazil and RSA in AZ Phase III trials. So open your eyes. Your therapeutic solutions have minimal effect-India’s second wave has shown this. Vaccination is the best way out of this.
I take it you won’t take paracetamol which has far more adverse effects? | | | |
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