| Who will be the next prime minister? 11:24 - May 5 with 7792 views | Lord_Bony |
Looks like it will be between Jeremy corbyn versus Boris Johnson or Michael Gove
The labour party look unelectable corbyn is remain but is willing to push through brexit but Johnson and gove are hardline brexiteers. What a shambles.
Brexit will be delivered before the election and it is the task of the new government to see it all go through smoothly, not an easy task.. |  |
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| Who will be the next prime minister? on 19:35 - May 6 with 1462 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Who will be the next prime minister? on 19:17 - May 6 by bluey_the_blue |
Didn't say it was "communist".
It still indicates the loony left ethos at the time. Get rid of nukes whilst everyone else keeps theirs because that'll be us making an example and they'll then all follow. Nuclear power? Evil - keep the coal mines wtih sh1tty working practices open ( and that would have led to worse co2 emissions, so hated these days ).
Lots of commitments there - and it's actually interesting to see how many have occurred over time organically. Lots of spending commitments there and very, very vague of details of how they'd be paid for.
The main problem is it's promising the earth whilst acknowledging it's unrealistic. 1983 was of course also he time Degsy Hatton started gaining far more influence in Liverpool... I'd postulate that Foot's manifesto emboldened many.
It's also interesting that there appear quite a few similarities between Foots policies and Corbyns. |
The point is that it’s not particularly “loony left” as we’ve come to understand that ridiculous term today. That’s just lazy. The fact that, as you’ve pointed out yourself, many of the policies in it have been adopted by successive governments since, none of which will claim any kind of hard left wing leanings, only proves that. |  |
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| Who will be the next prime minister? on 19:44 - May 6 with 1443 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Who will be the next prime minister? on 18:53 - May 6 by bluey_the_blue |
Ditto.
People fail to realise exactly how bad the Labour manifesto was in 1983. It was basically re-nationalise every damn thing going, stop working class buying their homes etc. Add in losing MPs to SDP, Tories would have won.
From memory didn't Foot insist all the policies were collected from conference? Hence you had crazy stuff like unilateral nuclear disarmament...
Irony is, without that failure, Labour wouldn't have had Kinnock and Smith dealing with the batsh1t crazy lefty loonies that would go on to make the party electable under Blair. |
Unilateral nuclear disarmament is not crazy.
We should declare it tomorrow and save £205 billion.
Complete waste of money.
Could solve homelessness in 6 months.
Dim diolch â˜€ï¸ |  |
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| Who will be the next prime minister? on 20:01 - May 6 with 1430 views | Lord_Bony |
| Who will be the next prime minister? on 19:44 - May 6 by Kilkennyjack |
Unilateral nuclear disarmament is not crazy.
We should declare it tomorrow and save £205 billion.
Complete waste of money.
Could solve homelessness in 6 months.
Dim diolch â˜€ï¸ |
Hear hear. | |
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| Who will be the next prime minister? on 20:12 - May 6 with 1419 views | bluey_the_blue |
| Who will be the next prime minister? on 19:23 - May 6 by londonlisa2001 |
You only agree with that bit as you seem to think it’s our membership of the EU that enables British companies to outsource to India... |
No I don't as I pointed out.
I was replying to a point made about tech skills shortage, which is and always has been b0llocks. Visa abuses, especially from India have been rife for decades - nothing to do with EU. |  | | |
| Who will be the next prime minister? on 20:17 - May 6 with 1411 views | bluey_the_blue |
| Who will be the next prime minister? on 19:35 - May 6 by exiledclaseboy |
The point is that it’s not particularly “loony left” as we’ve come to understand that ridiculous term today. That’s just lazy. The fact that, as you’ve pointed out yourself, many of the policies in it have been adopted by successive governments since, none of which will claim any kind of hard left wing leanings, only proves that. |
The "loony left" were emboldened around 1983 - the likes of Degsy Hatton were getting more power / prominence at the time. That manifesto emboldened many, was the tip of the iceberg.
Many of the policies, as I said, have later been adopted. The craziness was that that manifesto had everything chucked in, including the kitchen sink which presumably hadn't been re-nationalised at that point with funding of those policies vague in the extreme. Yes, the manifesto points out not everything could be achieved short term, but who noticed that line?
Kaufman knew the effect of that manifesto and he was right. | | | |
| Who will be the next prime minister? on 20:19 - May 6 with 1406 views | Lord_Bony |
"According to tech start-up group The Coalition for a Digital Economy, the UK will have 800,000 unfilled digital vacancies by 2020, highlighting the fight ahead for companies when it comes to attracting and retaining the best technology talent." | |
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| Who will be the next prime minister? on 20:19 - May 6 with 1405 views | bluey_the_blue |
| Who will be the next prime minister? on 19:44 - May 6 by Kilkennyjack |
Unilateral nuclear disarmament is not crazy.
We should declare it tomorrow and save £205 billion.
Complete waste of money.
Could solve homelessness in 6 months.
Dim diolch â˜€ï¸ |
In 1983 it was incredibly crazy. Still is.
Nukes ensure MAD, meaning no nation will launch a nuke. Like it or not, that's prevented world wars occuring.
Save £205bn? Are you including benefits payments to be made to all those directly and indirectly employed who will lost their jobs? | | | |
| Who will be the next prime minister? on 20:24 - May 6 with 1399 views | Lord_Bony |
| Who will be the next prime minister? on 20:19 - May 6 by bluey_the_blue |
In 1983 it was incredibly crazy. Still is.
Nukes ensure MAD, meaning no nation will launch a nuke. Like it or not, that's prevented world wars occuring.
Save £205bn? Are you including benefits payments to be made to all those directly and indirectly employed who will lost their jobs? |
Nonsense, we only need a handful of the latest high tech nukes as a deterrent.
The real worry, of course, is when you get maverick governments like Israel illegally stockpiling these things unilaterally. | |
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| Who will be the next prime minister? on 20:26 - May 6 with 1394 views | bluey_the_blue |
| Who will be the next prime minister? on 20:24 - May 6 by Lord_Bony |
Nonsense, we only need a handful of the latest high tech nukes as a deterrent.
The real worry, of course, is when you get maverick governments like Israel illegally stockpiling these things unilaterally. |
Again, MAD. Samson option makes Israel safe. | | | |
| Who will be the next prime minister? on 20:31 - May 6 with 1388 views | Lord_Bony |
| Who will be the next prime minister? on 20:26 - May 6 by bluey_the_blue |
Again, MAD. Samson option makes Israel safe. |
Rogue regimes like Israel with their illegal stockpiles of nuclear weapons present the real danger to global peace, they should not have them. | |
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| Who will be the next prime minister? on 21:34 - May 6 with 1346 views | Flashberryjack |
| Who will be the next prime minister? on 19:11 - May 6 by exiledclaseboy |
Taken directly from Labour’s 1983 manifesto. Sounds awfully familiar. 
On taking office we will open preliminary negotiations with the other EEC member states to establish a timetable for withdrawal; and we will publish the results of these negotiations in a White Paper. In addition, as soon as possible after the House assembles, we will introduce a Repeal Bill: first, in order to amend the 1972 European Communities Act, ending the powers of the Community in the UK; and second, to provide the necessary powers to repeal the 1972 Act, when the negotiations on withdrawal are completed.
Following the publication of the White Paper, we will begin the main negotiations on withdrawal. Later, when appropriate and in the same parliament, we will use our powers to repeal the 1972 Act and abrogate the Treaty of Accession - thus breaking all of our formal links with the Community. Britain will at this point withdraw from the Council of Ministers and from the European Parliament.
There will need to be a period of transition, to ensure a minimum of disruption - and to phase in any new agreements we might make with the Community. This will enable us to make all the necessary changes in our domestic legislation. Until these changes in UK law have taken place, the status quo as regards particular items of EEC legislation will remain. And this period will, of course, extend beyond the date when we cease, formally, to be members. |
Ah! but was the Irish backstop in the manifesto ? |  |
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| Who will be the next prime minister? on 21:35 - May 6 with 1346 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Who will be the next prime minister? on 20:19 - May 6 by bluey_the_blue |
In 1983 it was incredibly crazy. Still is.
Nukes ensure MAD, meaning no nation will launch a nuke. Like it or not, that's prevented world wars occuring.
Save £205bn? Are you including benefits payments to be made to all those directly and indirectly employed who will lost their jobs? |
Not sure that you realise the huge amount of money involved.
Any redundancies would be a very low amount in the massive scale of all this.
And some new jobs would be created in sensible areas like additional conventional weapons etc.
Sleep well mate - nobody has launched a nuclear strike on any of the non nuclear European states of Belgium, Holland, Denmark,Sweden, Norway, Spain, Portugal, Finland, Poland, Ireland, Germany, italy, and Greece. The UK will be fine.
Lets spend the money saved on the uk homeless, yes ? | |
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| Who will be the next prime minister? on 21:42 - May 6 with 1338 views | bluey_the_blue |
| Who will be the next prime minister? on 20:31 - May 6 by Lord_Bony |
Rogue regimes like Israel with their illegal stockpiles of nuclear weapons present the real danger to global peace, they should not have them. |
Yeah, keep believing that one. | | | |
| Who will be the next prime minister? on 21:45 - May 6 with 1329 views | bluey_the_blue |
| Who will be the next prime minister? on 21:35 - May 6 by Kilkennyjack |
Not sure that you realise the huge amount of money involved.
Any redundancies would be a very low amount in the massive scale of all this.
And some new jobs would be created in sensible areas like additional conventional weapons etc.
Sleep well mate - nobody has launched a nuclear strike on any of the non nuclear European states of Belgium, Holland, Denmark,Sweden, Norway, Spain, Portugal, Finland, Poland, Ireland, Germany, italy, and Greece. The UK will be fine.
Lets spend the money saved on the uk homeless, yes ? |
Nobody has launched a nuke om nations with nukes either.
I agree more money need to be used on the homeless but equally, money is being spent on the homeless. Cardiff has enough places - problem is, they have strict no drugs, no alcohol polices. Turn a place down? Your problem not mine. | | | |
| Who will be the next prime minister? on 22:07 - May 6 with 1298 views | Jack_Meoff |
| Who will be the next prime minister? on 21:35 - May 6 by Kilkennyjack |
Not sure that you realise the huge amount of money involved.
Any redundancies would be a very low amount in the massive scale of all this.
And some new jobs would be created in sensible areas like additional conventional weapons etc.
Sleep well mate - nobody has launched a nuclear strike on any of the non nuclear European states of Belgium, Holland, Denmark,Sweden, Norway, Spain, Portugal, Finland, Poland, Ireland, Germany, italy, and Greece. The UK will be fine.
Lets spend the money saved on the uk homeless, yes ? |
What will protect the homeless if we don't have nukes? |  |
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| Who will be the next prime minister? on 22:32 - May 6 with 1271 views | sherpajacob |
| Who will be the next prime minister? on 19:11 - May 6 by exiledclaseboy |
Taken directly from Labour’s 1983 manifesto. Sounds awfully familiar.
On taking office we will open preliminary negotiations with the other EEC member states to establish a timetable for withdrawal; and we will publish the results of these negotiations in a White Paper. In addition, as soon as possible after the House assembles, we will introduce a Repeal Bill: first, in order to amend the 1972 European Communities Act, ending the powers of the Community in the UK; and second, to provide the necessary powers to repeal the 1972 Act, when the negotiations on withdrawal are completed.
Following the publication of the White Paper, we will begin the main negotiations on withdrawal. Later, when appropriate and in the same parliament, we will use our powers to repeal the 1972 Act and abrogate the Treaty of Accession - thus breaking all of our formal links with the Community. Britain will at this point withdraw from the Council of Ministers and from the European Parliament.
There will need to be a period of transition, to ensure a minimum of disruption - and to phase in any new agreements we might make with the Community. This will enable us to make all the necessary changes in our domestic legislation. Until these changes in UK law have taken place, the status quo as regards particular items of EEC legislation will remain. And this period will, of course, extend beyond the date when we cease, formally, to be members. |
Labour gave it more thought in 1983 than Gove, Johnson and vote leave did in 2016. |  |
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| Who will be the next prime minister? on 00:01 - May 7 with 1229 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Who will be the next prime minister? on 22:07 - May 6 by Jack_Meoff |
What will protect the homeless if we don't have nukes? |
Homelessness is not a funny topic tbh.
Lets hope your family and my family never have to go through it.
Its a shame on us all, but the good news is we can fix it, for good. | |
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| Who will be the next prime minister? on 00:18 - May 7 with 1224 views | Highjack |
| Who will be the next prime minister? on 22:07 - May 6 by Jack_Meoff |
What will protect the homeless if we don't have nukes? |
What will protect them if we do have nukes? |  |
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| Who will be the next prime minister? on 11:58 - May 7 with 1154 views | controversial_jack |
| Who will be the next prime minister? on 21:45 - May 6 by bluey_the_blue |
Nobody has launched a nuke om nations with nukes either.
I agree more money need to be used on the homeless but equally, money is being spent on the homeless. Cardiff has enough places - problem is, they have strict no drugs, no alcohol polices. Turn a place down? Your problem not mine. |
Many choose to live on the streets rather than in a hostel that lays down strict rules as that's what many have escaped from.They just need a place of their own and many will just naturally come off the drink and drugs as I believe is what has happened in Finland. | | | |
| Who will be the next prime minister? on 14:07 - May 7 with 1136 views | The_undecided |
Labour will send this country into reverse, look around we are not doing too badly, Labour will come for the working class because its the only way they can get the tax returned they need, the days of 2 car families will be gone, listening to drakeford this morning, when he was hit with why child poverty in Wales is getting worse in the 20 years of the welsh assembly he blamed Westminster. What a cop out, Wales has been under Labour control for as long as I can remember and at times we have had labour in London as well, so for me no excuses they are no better and will never again get my vote, I have to switch channels whenever liar blair comes on the screen these days. | | | |
| Who will be the next prime minister? on 14:27 - May 7 with 1126 views | bluey_the_blue |
| Who will be the next prime minister? on 20:19 - May 6 by Lord_Bony |
"According to tech start-up group The Coalition for a Digital Economy, the UK will have 800,000 unfilled digital vacancies by 2020, highlighting the fight ahead for companies when it comes to attracting and retaining the best technology talent." |
Chief executive of The Coalition for a Digital Economy is Dominic Hallas, who was involved with India Smart Cities Challenge team.
Now I wonder why they could come up with such a large number, which seems incredibly large to those in tech. Surely not to urge for more visas to be granted? | | | |
| Who will be the next prime minister? on 15:26 - May 7 with 1107 views | waynekerr55 |
| Who will be the next prime minister? on 12:45 - May 5 by Lord_Bony |
So he's a CharLataN ANd a liAr then? As Per h would say. |
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| Who will be the next prime minister? on 15:47 - May 7 with 1093 views | LeonWasGod |
Katie Hopkins the way things are going. |  | | |
| Who will be the next prime minister? on 09:51 - May 8 with 1004 views | WarwickHunt |
| Who will be the next prime minister? on 14:07 - May 7 by The_undecided |
Labour will send this country into reverse, look around we are not doing too badly, Labour will come for the working class because its the only way they can get the tax returned they need, the days of 2 car families will be gone, listening to drakeford this morning, when he was hit with why child poverty in Wales is getting worse in the 20 years of the welsh assembly he blamed Westminster. What a cop out, Wales has been under Labour control for as long as I can remember and at times we have had labour in London as well, so for me no excuses they are no better and will never again get my vote, I have to switch channels whenever liar blair comes on the screen these days. |
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| Who will be the next prime minister? on 12:08 - May 10 with 912 views | jackrmee |
| Who will be the next prime minister? on 11:58 - May 7 by controversial_jack |
Many choose to live on the streets rather than in a hostel that lays down strict rules as that's what many have escaped from.They just need a place of their own and many will just naturally come off the drink and drugs as I believe is what has happened in Finland. |
I don't think people will come off drink/drugs simply when they get a place of their own. It's much more complex than that.
Many are on the streets because they lost everything due to substance misuse. Many have entered into substance misuse due to finding themselves on the streets.
It's a bit like the chicken egg scenario. Same with mental health. Hence why there's an increase in people being diagnosed with "dual diagnosis" (mental health issue + substance misuse issue), as they can't decide which one caused which in many people.
There are people who choose a life on the streets, but I think they are few and far between. Some people just can't cope with society and it's traps/bills/laws/debts. |  |
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