| Paradise Papers on 19:47 - Nov 7 with 2611 views | kensalriser |
Hud, I don't understand what you're saying about regime change in Saudi Arabia. By all accounts the Crown Prince, the hier to the throne, is purging opposition to strengthen his grip on power. Common stuff in monarchic dynasties and hardly unprecedented within the House of Saud. If anything, it's the opposite of regime change. |  |
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| Paradise Papers on 19:48 - Nov 7 with 2602 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| Paradise Papers on 12:50 - Nov 6 by BazzaInTheLoft |
Still can't see where he promised to abolish ALL student debt.
Even if he did (he didn't) what's wrong with promising to end student debt? Would you not do so if you could? Or would you spend the money on tax cuts for people you watch get into limousines at the airport while you read the paper and get angry about benefit claimants?
Before you bore us with the 'hard work sets you free' most of the people in the paradise / panama papers are heirs. Not many of them started off with a single ice cream van and made their way from there.
Those working 18 - 22 year olds, who cures their cancer and teaches their future kids how to read?
The students of today are the doctors and teachers of tomorrow. Personally I want the people giving brain surgery to be debt free and not moonlighting as Wetherspoon's barmen and women.
You are deluded if you think the Tories give a flying fvck about you and your small business. It is only the grace of god that your industry hasn't already gone been solely contracted to Uber or Addison Lee and you are working for £7 an hour. You sneer at Labour and Momentum, but it's people like you we are fighting for.
Hope i'm not being too presumptive, but working class Tories are the most blinkered self damaging section of the electorate. Think on. [Post edited 6 Nov 2017 12:50]
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He is implying clearing student debt without actually committing to policy. This is typical of Corbyn's approach to politics in general. The man is a fraud who is extremely fortunate that the Tories put a lame duck in charge and fought a God-awful election campaign.
Being a small business owner myself, I am well aware that the Tories don't give a flying fvck about me or my business. My business pays its fair share of corporation tax and is too modest to take advantage of avoidance schemes available to large corporations.
However if you think that the modern day Labour party is still the champion of the working class then you too are seriously deluded. There are plenty of champagne socialists who talk a good game but are also jumping into limousines at the airport and avoiding tax. They no more give a fvck about you or I than the Tories you clearly love to lambast.
In short, the issue of tax avoidance is not a Tory disease. The sooner you accept this fact and stop turning it into a left v. right debate, the more chance we'll have of finding an international solution. |  | | |
| Paradise Papers on 21:22 - Nov 7 with 2532 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Paradise Papers on 19:48 - Nov 7 by Benny_the_Ball |
He is implying clearing student debt without actually committing to policy. This is typical of Corbyn's approach to politics in general. The man is a fraud who is extremely fortunate that the Tories put a lame duck in charge and fought a God-awful election campaign.
Being a small business owner myself, I am well aware that the Tories don't give a flying fvck about me or my business. My business pays its fair share of corporation tax and is too modest to take advantage of avoidance schemes available to large corporations.
However if you think that the modern day Labour party is still the champion of the working class then you too are seriously deluded. There are plenty of champagne socialists who talk a good game but are also jumping into limousines at the airport and avoiding tax. They no more give a fvck about you or I than the Tories you clearly love to lambast.
In short, the issue of tax avoidance is not a Tory disease. The sooner you accept this fact and stop turning it into a left v. right debate, the more chance we'll have of finding an international solution. |
I'll take a lecture on QPR, goats, or Frankie Knuckles discography but not The Labour Party.
When was the last CLP meeting you went to? Conference? Regional conference? Policy forum? If you only get your information on the Labour party from The Sun or the BBC then you're not really qualified to comment on the makeup of the LP.
I'm working class and so are 90% of the other activists I work with. The other 10% are mostly retired pensioners and students. Hardly the Garrick club is it?
The one thing that boils activists piss on the doorstep is people telling me (I work for London Underground frontline) that Labour don't represent the working class.
Champagne socialist is a nonsense term that people use as a weapon when they've run out of steam intellectually.
You can be rich and be socially responsible.
I'm not Jewish or a black south African. Does that mean I can't object to the Holocaust or Apartheid while I drive a German car and drink Saffer wine? No.
If you are poor and you protest you're bitter or jealous. If you are rich and you protest you're a champagne socialist. Almost as if people like you don't want to address the issue. [Post edited 8 Nov 2017 1:28]
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| Paradise Papers on 21:25 - Nov 7 with 2524 views | FredManRave |
| Paradise Papers on 21:22 - Nov 7 by BazzaInTheLoft |
I'll take a lecture on QPR, goats, or Frankie Knuckles discography but not The Labour Party.
When was the last CLP meeting you went to? Conference? Regional conference? Policy forum? If you only get your information on the Labour party from The Sun or the BBC then you're not really qualified to comment on the makeup of the LP.
I'm working class and so are 90% of the other activists I work with. The other 10% are mostly retired pensioners and students. Hardly the Garrick club is it?
The one thing that boils activists piss on the doorstep is people telling me (I work for London Underground frontline) that Labour don't represent the working class.
Champagne socialist is a nonsense term that people use as a weapon when they've run out of steam intellectually.
You can be rich and be socially responsible.
I'm not Jewish or a black south African. Does that mean I can't object to the Holocaust or Apartheid while I drive a German car and drink Saffer wine? No.
If you are poor and you protest you're bitter or jealous. If you are rich and you protest you're a champagne socialist. Almost as if people like you don't want to address the issue. [Post edited 8 Nov 2017 1:28]
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| Paradise Papers on 21:25 - Nov 7 with 2524 views | hubble |
| Paradise Papers on 19:47 - Nov 7 by kensalriser |
Hud, I don't understand what you're saying about regime change in Saudi Arabia. By all accounts the Crown Prince, the hier to the throne, is purging opposition to strengthen his grip on power. Common stuff in monarchic dynasties and hardly unprecedented within the House of Saud. If anything, it's the opposite of regime change. |
I'm talking about a worldwide regime change Phil - of which what's happening in Saudi Arabia is one aspect. And although you say it's 'common stuff' and hardly unprecedented - well, I bow to your superior knowledge of the house of Saud, but people being deliberately killed in an attack on a helicopter, including a prince, mass expulsions and more - to me this looks fairly full on. And it's all interconnected to what's happening in the US right now and elsewhere - from what I understand - dynasties are falling.But to give you the fullest picture, I'm happy to meet for a pint in the Salusbury to discuss it all! Hope you're well mate.
PS - just seen this - another Prince gunned down. It's pretty full on mate! The Saudi/Israel collusion thing is fairly explosive too, I'd say. http://theantimedia.org/saudi-prince-killed-gunned-resisting-arrest/
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| Paradise Papers on 21:52 - Nov 7 with 2496 views | MrSheen |
| Paradise Papers on 18:17 - Nov 7 by hubble |
I just don't share your high opinion of the MSM Mr S. As for Seth Rich, I wonder why Donna Brazile made a special dedication to him in her book, calling him a patriot, if he was just a lowly intern as other DNC staffers described him at the time? Yes, he was attacked and killed in the street. Nothing was stolen from him. His is just one of a list of suspicious deaths that surround HRC.
In other news, regarding the escalating Saudi regime change story, the following has just come to light:
"Early this morning, Israeli Channel 10 news published a leaked diplomatic cable which had been sent to all Israeli ambassadors throughout the world concerning the chaotic events that unfolded over the weekend in Lebanon and Saudi Arabia, which began with Lebanese Prime Minister Saad Hariri's unexpected resignation after he was summoned to Riyadh by his Saudi-backers, and led to the Saudis announcing that Lebanon had "declared war" against the kingdom.
The classified embassy cable, written in Hebrew, constitutes the first formal evidence proving that the Saudis and Israelis are deliberately coordinating to escalate the situation in the Middle East."
This stuff is definitely happening.
Source: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-07/leaked-secret-israeli-cable-confirms-is |
Rich was 8th on the list of people to whom the book was dedicated, just ahead of her Pomeranian, Chip. She thinks the Russians got him (Rich, not Chip).
Nice comments below the line on that ZeroHedge article, by the way. [Post edited 7 Nov 2017 21:59]
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| Paradise Papers on 22:04 - Nov 7 with 2479 views | MrSheen |
| Paradise Papers on 21:25 - Nov 7 by hubble |
I'm talking about a worldwide regime change Phil - of which what's happening in Saudi Arabia is one aspect. And although you say it's 'common stuff' and hardly unprecedented - well, I bow to your superior knowledge of the house of Saud, but people being deliberately killed in an attack on a helicopter, including a prince, mass expulsions and more - to me this looks fairly full on. And it's all interconnected to what's happening in the US right now and elsewhere - from what I understand - dynasties are falling.But to give you the fullest picture, I'm happy to meet for a pint in the Salusbury to discuss it all! Hope you're well mate.
PS - just seen this - another Prince gunned down. It's pretty full on mate! The Saudi/Israel collusion thing is fairly explosive too, I'd say. http://theantimedia.org/saudi-prince-killed-gunned-resisting-arrest/
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We'll soon know.
http://www.dnaindia.com/world/report-saudi-arabia-denies-report-prince-abdulaziz | | | |
| Paradise Papers on 22:51 - Nov 7 with 2442 views | hubble |
| Paradise Papers on 21:52 - Nov 7 by MrSheen |
Rich was 8th on the list of people to whom the book was dedicated, just ahead of her Pomeranian, Chip. She thinks the Russians got him (Rich, not Chip).
Nice comments below the line on that ZeroHedge article, by the way. [Post edited 7 Nov 2017 21:59]
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"Brazile says in her book that she was “haunted” by Rich’s death because she feared shadowy elements associated with the Clinton campaign may have played a role in his death as retribution for leaking the emails."
And, Mr S, the actual leaked emails reveal more:
"On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 6:12 PM, John Podesta <john.podesta@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Agree. Happy to talk to the David's. Call me crazy, but I think if we can
> survive the next month, it will be possible, maybe even straightforward to
> get our arms around this once there is an actual campaign. I'm definitely
> for making an example of a suspected leaker whether or not we have any real
> basis for it.
>
> JP"
Source and full email here: https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/36082
And here: https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/45743 | |
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| Paradise Papers on 01:19 - Nov 8 with 2390 views | Boston |
| Paradise Papers on 22:51 - Nov 7 by hubble |
"Brazile says in her book that she was “haunted” by Rich’s death because she feared shadowy elements associated with the Clinton campaign may have played a role in his death as retribution for leaking the emails."
And, Mr S, the actual leaked emails reveal more:
"On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 6:12 PM, John Podesta <john.podesta@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Agree. Happy to talk to the David's. Call me crazy, but I think if we can
> survive the next month, it will be possible, maybe even straightforward to
> get our arms around this once there is an actual campaign. I'm definitely
> for making an example of a suspected leaker whether or not we have any real
> basis for it.
>
> JP"
Source and full email here: https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/36082
And here: https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/45743 |
I wish to offer my sincere condolences to the Brazile family on the impending suicide of Donna, found shot in the back of the head, twice. [Post edited 8 Nov 2017 1:20]
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| Paradise Papers on 06:13 - Nov 8 with 2341 views | MrSheen |
| Paradise Papers on 22:51 - Nov 7 by hubble |
"Brazile says in her book that she was “haunted” by Rich’s death because she feared shadowy elements associated with the Clinton campaign may have played a role in his death as retribution for leaking the emails."
And, Mr S, the actual leaked emails reveal more:
"On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 6:12 PM, John Podesta <john.podesta@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Agree. Happy to talk to the David's. Call me crazy, but I think if we can
> survive the next month, it will be possible, maybe even straightforward to
> get our arms around this once there is an actual campaign. I'm definitely
> for making an example of a suspected leaker whether or not we have any real
> basis for it.
>
> JP"
Source and full email here: https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/36082
And here: https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/45743 |
I was wondering how Podesta could be seeking vengeance for a leak that by definition couldn't have happened yet. Here's why, the mail was posted February 2015, 15 months before Wikileaks.
In an earlier post, you described Rich as a lowly intern in whom Brazile would have had no interest. He wasn't, he'd worked for the DNC for 18 months before he was murdered. Just another helpful additive to help the Truth flow more easily. [Post edited 8 Nov 2017 7:00]
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| Paradise Papers on 07:37 - Nov 8 with 2300 views | hubble |
| Paradise Papers on 06:13 - Nov 8 by MrSheen |
I was wondering how Podesta could be seeking vengeance for a leak that by definition couldn't have happened yet. Here's why, the mail was posted February 2015, 15 months before Wikileaks.
In an earlier post, you described Rich as a lowly intern in whom Brazile would have had no interest. He wasn't, he'd worked for the DNC for 18 months before he was murdered. Just another helpful additive to help the Truth flow more easily. [Post edited 8 Nov 2017 7:00]
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1. Podesta isn't seeking vengeance, he's describing setting something up. You seem to have misinterpreted that email.
2. To be specific, which is important when you're trying to deconstruct what someone says, I didn't describe Rich as a lowly intern, what I said was: "if he was just a lowly intern as other DNC staffers described him at the time".
And just because he worked for the DNC for 18 months doesn't really make much difference in that context. I appreciate you acting as a one-man Snopes on behalf of this board, but if you want to be helpful, please try to be accurate.
I note you have not responded to the wider issue of a systemic suppression of evidence in regard to pedophile rings in the highest echelons of society in this country and America. [Post edited 8 Nov 2017 7:38]
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| Paradise Papers on 07:40 - Nov 8 with 2297 views | Dixie_CT |
May have been a conspiracy theory which lead to someone wrongly taking the matters into their own hands but did you see some of the stuff released by Heavy Breathing, the band linked to it?
Now I don't mind a bit of strange, close to the mark stuff (I'm talking Monkey Dust/League of Gentleman Harry Hill/Doug Stanhope) but the video for one of the videos 'I NO LUV' made me spit out my middle class conscious infused Special K before I reached for my angry working class can of K Cider.
Posting the video here may make Clive have a canary (in fact I think that features in one of their other videos) but for me it's a bit shocking that it's freely available with no age restrictions on open sites. It was on YouTube but has been removed.
Oh Paradise Papers - the Queen is a Lizard, we are the righteous and money is the root of all evil. We've just got rid of Sky so I've lost UK Gold and the opportunity of watching endless re-runs of Only Fools so it's good to come here and see similar levels of repeats |  | | |
| Paradise Papers on 08:06 - Nov 8 with 2280 views | MrSheen |
| Paradise Papers on 07:37 - Nov 8 by hubble |
1. Podesta isn't seeking vengeance, he's describing setting something up. You seem to have misinterpreted that email.
2. To be specific, which is important when you're trying to deconstruct what someone says, I didn't describe Rich as a lowly intern, what I said was: "if he was just a lowly intern as other DNC staffers described him at the time".
And just because he worked for the DNC for 18 months doesn't really make much difference in that context. I appreciate you acting as a one-man Snopes on behalf of this board, but if you want to be helpful, please try to be accurate.
I note you have not responded to the wider issue of a systemic suppression of evidence in regard to pedophile rings in the highest echelons of society in this country and America. [Post edited 8 Nov 2017 7:38]
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I have referred to Paedophile rings in the US. Pizzagate - total cobblers. Do you believe it? I noticed that you quickly changed the subject after originally raising it
On the UK, it appears, though we'll never know, that the Exaro informer was a fantasist, under the influence of people who wanted him to confirm their truth. More Cleveland sex abuse than lizard people at play.
That's it from me on this thread, you'll all be pleased to hear. | | | |
| Paradise Papers on 08:33 - Nov 8 with 2258 views | hubble |
| Paradise Papers on 08:06 - Nov 8 by MrSheen |
I have referred to Paedophile rings in the US. Pizzagate - total cobblers. Do you believe it? I noticed that you quickly changed the subject after originally raising it
On the UK, it appears, though we'll never know, that the Exaro informer was a fantasist, under the influence of people who wanted him to confirm their truth. More Cleveland sex abuse than lizard people at play.
That's it from me on this thread, you'll all be pleased to hear. |
I didn't change the subject Mr S, on the contrary, I posited that the systemic suppression of evidence in regard to pedophile rings was the reason for the MSM's - and therefore your - assertion that pizzagate was "total cobblers" as you put it. I think that was pretty clear. On the UK issue, I'm not sure how you can ignore things like the Home Office conveniently losing all those files and the continual failure of the investigation to move forward. We see this kind of obfuscation and suppression all the time of course, the Chilcot report being a prime example. I take it you accept that Blair and Bush knowingly lied about Iraq - especially since Gordon Brown has now come out and said it. Lies and disinformation seem par for the course in regard to political elites. I see no difference in regard to pizzagate.
I remember many years ago when a journalist friend told me about Rolf Harris's activities, long before it came out in public. When I related these to other friends, they scoffed at the idea and even ridiculed me for suggesting it. I'm sure countless victims of Savile's vile activities lived in some kind of hell while his activities were continually suppressed until after his death. The same with Janner and Clement Freud. And like pretty much all these issues, they are the tip of the iceberg. The evidence is out there, but it never seems to reach the MSM. Interestingly, there is also evidence linking the Podesta brothers to Clement Freud.
It's also worth noting that at the time of the DNC email leaks, Craig Murray was quoted in an article in the Guardian thus:
Craig Murray, the former UK ambassador to Uzbekistan, who is a close associate of Assange, called the CIA claims “bullsh*t”, adding: “They are absolutely making it up.”
“I know who leaked them,” Murray said. “I’ve met the person who leaked them, and they are certainly not Russian and it’s an insider. It’s a leak, not a hack; the two are different things.
“If what the CIA are saying is true, and the CIA’s statement refers to people who are known to be linked to the Russian state, they would have arrested someone if it was someone inside the United States.
“America has not been shy about arresting whistleblowers and it’s not been shy about extraditing hackers. They plainly have no knowledge whatsoever.”
The insider he was referring to was Seth Rich. No one in the US has been arrested for the alleged Russian hack. | |
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| Paradise Papers on 09:50 - Nov 8 with 2215 views | robith |
| Paradise Papers on 21:22 - Nov 7 by BazzaInTheLoft |
I'll take a lecture on QPR, goats, or Frankie Knuckles discography but not The Labour Party.
When was the last CLP meeting you went to? Conference? Regional conference? Policy forum? If you only get your information on the Labour party from The Sun or the BBC then you're not really qualified to comment on the makeup of the LP.
I'm working class and so are 90% of the other activists I work with. The other 10% are mostly retired pensioners and students. Hardly the Garrick club is it?
The one thing that boils activists piss on the doorstep is people telling me (I work for London Underground frontline) that Labour don't represent the working class.
Champagne socialist is a nonsense term that people use as a weapon when they've run out of steam intellectually.
You can be rich and be socially responsible.
I'm not Jewish or a black south African. Does that mean I can't object to the Holocaust or Apartheid while I drive a German car and drink Saffer wine? No.
If you are poor and you protest you're bitter or jealous. If you are rich and you protest you're a champagne socialist. Almost as if people like you don't want to address the issue. [Post edited 8 Nov 2017 1:28]
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"When I give food to the poor they call me a saint. When I ask why are people poor they call me a communist" |  | | |
| Paradise Papers on 10:52 - Nov 8 with 2175 views | FDC |
| Paradise Papers on 19:48 - Nov 7 by Benny_the_Ball |
He is implying clearing student debt without actually committing to policy. This is typical of Corbyn's approach to politics in general. The man is a fraud who is extremely fortunate that the Tories put a lame duck in charge and fought a God-awful election campaign.
Being a small business owner myself, I am well aware that the Tories don't give a flying fvck about me or my business. My business pays its fair share of corporation tax and is too modest to take advantage of avoidance schemes available to large corporations.
However if you think that the modern day Labour party is still the champion of the working class then you too are seriously deluded. There are plenty of champagne socialists who talk a good game but are also jumping into limousines at the airport and avoiding tax. They no more give a fvck about you or I than the Tories you clearly love to lambast.
In short, the issue of tax avoidance is not a Tory disease. The sooner you accept this fact and stop turning it into a left v. right debate, the more chance we'll have of finding an international solution. |
The sooner you accept this fact and stop turning it into a left v. right debate, the more chance we'll have of finding an international solution.
I had no idea Bazza wielded this kind of power.
"Wealth redistribution isn't a matter for the left"
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| Paradise Papers on 11:21 - Nov 8 with 2126 views | FDC |
On the question of whether or not the Labour is truly 'for the working class', there's a series of blog posts here on this question, some for and some against, and some somewhere in between. 'Corbynism from (the Great) Below' in particular is a good piece imo.
https://www.weareplanc.org/blog/ | | | |
| Paradise Papers on 11:38 - Nov 8 with 2107 views | Dixie_CT |
Call me old fashioned but I do like evidence to back things up.
“It's so damn complex. If you ever think you have the solution to this, you're wrong and you're dangerous” | | | |
| Paradise Papers on 11:49 - Nov 8 with 2102 views | Brightonhoop |
| Paradise Papers on 20:53 - Nov 6 by Antti_Heinola |
Honestly mate, that's bizarre. A independent company makes the show. The independent company will then pay the talent. That company may be owned by the star of the show. I'm not sure how that could possibly be done through PAYE unless the BBC literally made all their programmes in house and every single person who played any part in making BBC content was employed by the BBC directly. Which would be utter madness and wholly unworkable. It's not the BBC depriving anyone. They're paying for content. Where that money goes afterwards is not their fault, nor their problem. |
My main point was that every household with a telly has to pay the BBC close to £200 a year. There is no choice. If you don't, in law, they can fine you £1000 or more leading to prison if not paid.
So to lose revenue to UK PLC whilst the NHS is labouring under a £2.5 Billion defect and nurses are so poorly paid they are relying on food banks is equally absurd and shameful.
It would be altogether better if the licence fee was re-directed directly to the NHS nd the BBC stood on it's own 2 feet. Wall to wall cooking programmed and mrs browns boys reflect the BBC asa bloated, poor quality entity that has dumbed down so far they have nowhere left to go.
Paying off shore shell entities and allowing money stolen from every household not to be subject to tax that the NHS is reliant is unacceptable on every level and the BBC must go. |  | | |
| Paradise Papers on 12:34 - Nov 8 with 2071 views | peejaybee |
| Paradise Papers on 11:49 - Nov 8 by Brightonhoop |
My main point was that every household with a telly has to pay the BBC close to £200 a year. There is no choice. If you don't, in law, they can fine you £1000 or more leading to prison if not paid.
So to lose revenue to UK PLC whilst the NHS is labouring under a £2.5 Billion defect and nurses are so poorly paid they are relying on food banks is equally absurd and shameful.
It would be altogether better if the licence fee was re-directed directly to the NHS nd the BBC stood on it's own 2 feet. Wall to wall cooking programmed and mrs browns boys reflect the BBC asa bloated, poor quality entity that has dumbed down so far they have nowhere left to go.
Paying off shore shell entities and allowing money stolen from every household not to be subject to tax that the NHS is reliant is unacceptable on every level and the BBC must go. |
Yeah, The BBC must go that will really F**K Up Mr Murdoch wont it. |  |
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| Paradise Papers on 12:34 - Nov 8 with 2071 views | QPR_Jim |
| Paradise Papers on 11:49 - Nov 8 by Brightonhoop |
My main point was that every household with a telly has to pay the BBC close to £200 a year. There is no choice. If you don't, in law, they can fine you £1000 or more leading to prison if not paid.
So to lose revenue to UK PLC whilst the NHS is labouring under a £2.5 Billion defect and nurses are so poorly paid they are relying on food banks is equally absurd and shameful.
It would be altogether better if the licence fee was re-directed directly to the NHS nd the BBC stood on it's own 2 feet. Wall to wall cooking programmed and mrs browns boys reflect the BBC asa bloated, poor quality entity that has dumbed down so far they have nowhere left to go.
Paying off shore shell entities and allowing money stolen from every household not to be subject to tax that the NHS is reliant is unacceptable on every level and the BBC must go. |
I thought the BBC just paid the production company who then went on to pay another UK company who were moving it off-shore, doesn't seem to me the BBC have done much wrong. Even the production company weren't directly responsible for it going off shore, that's why only 3 of the cast are implicated rather than all of them.
However if it gets the show cancelled then all the better. |  | | |
| Paradise Papers on 13:13 - Nov 8 with 2043 views | TGRRRSSS |
| Paradise Papers on 17:31 - Nov 7 by Brightonhoop |
If you mean on into China, the Chinese will never allow that.
There's alot going on behind the scenes, reports if accurate, that the test base under the mountain collapsed killing hundreds and making the area so toxic it's no longer viable as a test place, unsafe from radiation.
Others saying the Chinese have threatened to remove Kim themselves because they dont want the US on the border, with all the inherent risks that would bring.
Whatever's true or not in this fake news era, Kim is strangely quiet after all his recent blustering. Let's hope it's not the calm before the storm. |
Yes I meant into China, but you make salient points regarding the toxicity.
Hadn't heared the idea China may well take action themselves on Kim.
This would be a game changer as regards their stated view regarding foreign policy which seems to be your country your rules (on the surface) |  | | |
| Paradise Papers on 13:48 - Nov 8 with 2017 views | Brightonhoop |
| Paradise Papers on 12:34 - Nov 8 by QPR_Jim |
I thought the BBC just paid the production company who then went on to pay another UK company who were moving it off-shore, doesn't seem to me the BBC have done much wrong. Even the production company weren't directly responsible for it going off shore, that's why only 3 of the cast are implicated rather than all of them.
However if it gets the show cancelled then all the better. |
Problem is its filmed at BBC Scotland, so the BBC are facilitating tax avoidance whilst collecting a Licence Fee. IMHO that's untennable.
Agreed, hopefully they axe it and return to decent Broadcasting. And see that everything funded by them is properly taxed for the benefit of the NHS et al. And that third Party chicanery on Tax within Commissioning is declined. | | | |
| Paradise Papers on 14:00 - Nov 8 with 2007 views | QPR_Jim |
| Paradise Papers on 13:48 - Nov 8 by Brightonhoop |
Problem is its filmed at BBC Scotland, so the BBC are facilitating tax avoidance whilst collecting a Licence Fee. IMHO that's untennable.
Agreed, hopefully they axe it and return to decent Broadcasting. And see that everything funded by them is properly taxed for the benefit of the NHS et al. And that third Party chicanery on Tax within Commissioning is declined. |
I don't really know enough about how these things are paid for to go into too much depth, but I'd have thought the contract was between BOC-PIX (Brendan O'Carroll's production Company) and the BBC to produce a certain amount episodes to air on TV. What the production company do beyond that the BBC can't regulate, I would have assumed. Not sure what the filming location has to do with it, but again I don't know exactly how these things work.
Fundamentally I would rather keep one broadcasting and news institution that was answerable to the licence fee payers and not having to worry about their content offending or damaging sponsors. | | | |
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