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This made me heave.... 09:52 - Apr 23 with 12285 views

Bucks_Ranger

This made me heave.... on 22:10 - Apr 23 with 1804 views

Bushman

This made me heave.... on 21:48 - Apr 23 by daveB
christ we do get our knickers in a twist over nothing, so the bloke went to a fancy dress party in a Chelsea shirt, so bloody what, we've got far more to worry about than this and for him to have to issue an apology seems ridiculous to me

Agree

The world's gone mad.

I know almost nothing about the Premier League even though I try to catch the big games every now and then at the end of the season. But I will say this, Queens Park Rangers is just a fukking sick ass team name. Just sounds so cool.

This made me heave.... on 22:17 - Apr 23 with 1773 views

TW_R

This made me heave.... on 22:10 - Apr 23 by Bushman
Agree The world's gone mad.

I agree too. What the f*ck!!? Club statements, apologies from the player - talk about mountain out of a molehill.

This made me heave.... on 22:19 - Apr 23 with 1767 views

toemasher

This made me heave.... on 21:16 - Apr 23 by Gloucs_R
Cesar has now made an apology. http://www.qpr.co.uk/news/article/230413-julio-cesar-statement-789088.aspx

He doesnt realise still, does he?! That is not an apology.

Sorry, is the start of a good apology...

I want to assure you Cesar, offence has been taken regardless of whether you intended it or not.

No learn how to kick a Fkn ball...

This made me heave.... on 22:24 - Apr 23 with 1759 views

Bushman

Apology from Mark Hughes would be more appropriate.

No one would be saying jack if we were mid table and 40+ points on the board.

This made me heave.... on 22:30 - Apr 23 with 1751 views

Northernr

This made me heave.... on 22:17 - Apr 23 by TW_R
I agree too. What the f*ck!!? Club statements, apologies from the player - talk about mountain out of a molehill.

On it's own it's a nothing incident. But taken in context it's indicative of a lot of problems we have with our playing staff. As said, when he was at Inter Milan, he'd have known that going to a party in an AC Milan shirt wasn't the done thing. But QPR is smaller, irrelevant, little club, not that important to the players that play for it - so they don't think anything of it.

This made me heave.... on 22:35 - Apr 23 with 1727 views

WallyRanger

Seeing some total over reactions here, I hate Chelsea and wouldn't be caught dead wearing their sh*te, but I think he was having a laugh rather than going out of his way to disrespect us.
He's still been one of the few bright spots of this nightmare season, though he's been out of form lately (injured maybe?)

This made me heave.... on 22:37 - Apr 23 with 1721 views

QPRDave

This made me heave.... on 22:19 - Apr 23 by toemasher
He doesnt realise still, does he?! That is not an apology. Sorry, is the start of a good apology... I want to assure you Cesar, offence has been taken regardless of whether you intended it or not. No learn how to kick a Fkn ball...

and catch a cross....and maybe push a ball away from goal instead of straight to a striker

This made me heave.... on 22:49 - Apr 23 with 1703 views

Antti_Heinola

This made me heave.... on 22:30 - Apr 23 by Northernr
On it's own it's a nothing incident. But taken in context it's indicative of a lot of problems we have with our playing staff. As said, when he was at Inter Milan, he'd have known that going to a party in an AC Milan shirt wasn't the done thing. But QPR is smaller, irrelevant, little club, not that important to the players that play for it - so they don't think anything of it.

Or if his best mate played for Milan maybe he would've done that in the privacy of a private party. You just don't know.
I really can't believe people care about this. I don't like Chelsea either, but my God people need to get a bit of perspective here.*

*If he had dressed up as John Terry, then, yes, I would have gone mental.

Bare bones.

This made me heave.... on 22:52 - Apr 23 with 1692 views

hamptonhillhoop

Has anyone still got a photo of John terry holding the England flag with QPR on it, just to redress the balance. I love that photo just for the rangers fans knowing face next to him

[Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]

This made me heave.... on 23:08 - Apr 23 with 1671 views

daveB

This made me heave.... on 22:30 - Apr 23 by Northernr
On it's own it's a nothing incident. But taken in context it's indicative of a lot of problems we have with our playing staff. As said, when he was at Inter Milan, he'd have known that going to a party in an AC Milan shirt wasn't the done thing. But QPR is smaller, irrelevant, little club, not that important to the players that play for it - so they don't think anything of it.

thats down to the club though, they should be trying to explain to players the clubs history, rivals etc but they don't so I have no problems with Cesar doing this, not long ago people on here were saying he was the best keeper in the prem and our best for years, some of the stuff written about him today is incredible

This made me heave.... on 23:12 - Apr 23 with 1661 views

Northernr

This made me heave.... on 23:08 - Apr 23 by daveB
thats down to the club though, they should be trying to explain to players the clubs history, rivals etc but they don't so I have no problems with Cesar doing this, not long ago people on here were saying he was the best keeper in the prem and our best for years, some of the stuff written about him today is incredible

Yeh it is down to the club, like I say it's indicative of a lot of the problems we have.

The opinion on Cesar does seem to have been a bit schizo all season. He's either been the greatest goalkeeper ever, or the worst one, and it's varied from week to week. I thought he started slowly, hit some amazing form through January and February and has been very poor (while possibly injured) of late.

This made me heave.... on 23:20 - Apr 23 with 1647 views

BklynRanger

It's not all down to the club to school Cesar in its history and culture. It's also down to the player to have enough of an interest to know or want to find out.

Which brings me back to the main issue as far as I'm concerned - not the fact that he was a tit in a Chelsea shirt, but that I'll bet its all a big shock to him that this seems so out of order to some of us.

We're just a means to an end for him.

I thought his wife dropped him in it earlier in the season didn't she? When Man U or Arsenal or someone were rumoured to be interested and she tweeted something about this being his plan?

This made me heave.... on 23:23 - Apr 23 with 1641 views

CiderwithRsie

This made me heave.... on 14:39 - Apr 23 by Northernr

Ramage was neither a very good footballer, nor a QPR fan. But he was a football supporter, and he understood how lucky he was to be a footballer, and he always showed our club and fans tremendous respect during his time here and always seemed to make an effort with us, without ever hiding his support of Newcastle. Result - he got cut a lot more slack than many of his performances really should have allowed.

Treat QPR with respect and the fans will give you all the time and support you want.

Exactly right. Its not that bloody difficult is it?

This made me heave.... on 08:42 - Apr 24 with 1570 views

ElHoop

He probably thought that I wouldn't be offended if he wore a Chelsea shirt to a fancy dress party when he was dressing up as a Chelsea player.

He was right.

This made me heave.... on 09:16 - Apr 24 with 1556 views

doogi55

This made me heave.... on 17:28 - Apr 23 by TacticalR
César is indeed in possession of a stunning wife. If César goes we will have to concentrate on younger, hungrier WAGs.

no seamen signed for arsenal before the season finshed and had to play the last few matches with all us fans knowing he had already signed for arsenal.

This made me heave.... on 09:31 - Apr 24 with 1544 views

BrianMcCarthy

Just checked this thread now. I'd avoided it as the title made me think it was another dodgy Holloway/Metallica mega-goth-chick photo orgy!

Can't fell any anger here. It's hardly a shock that these lads live in a different universe to us supporters.

I do agree with the broader theme of Northern's posts, though. The sooner the likes or equivalent of Ollie, Jackett, Bircham, Ainsworth, the Gallens take over the running of our teams the better. Without identity and togetherness we are nothing.

[Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]

	"The opposite of love, after all, is not hate, but indifference."
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This made me heave.... on 09:52 - Apr 24 with 1528 views

bob566

Its a nothing story. Silly boy.

This made me heave.... on 10:05 - Apr 24 with 1516 views

TheBlob

All a bit Orwellian this.Well over the top.
Get a f*cking life.

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This made me heave.... on 12:50 - Apr 24 with 1469 views

LazyFan

This made me heave.... on 13:43 - Apr 23 by Northernr

Well it just further emphasises that we've brought in a load of players to the club this season who care little for it, have made no effort to integrate themselves into it and are basically here for money alone and sod what happens to QPR or even in fact what the results are on the pitch. Cesar had an outstanding couple of months in the winter when he had a the sniff of getting his Brazilian place back but was mediocre before that and has been poor recently.

It's easy to look back at the good old days when such things happen but even in our pretty bad recent times we had people like Ramage, Faurlin and Delaney arriving at QPR talking about what a great club it was, what a great move it was for them and then really making an effort to get into the spirit of the club and interacting with the support. That feeling grew when the likes of Mackie, Derry, Kenny and Hill turned up and it's now almost completely disappeared.

When Ainsworth was on the podcast recently he was talking about QPR almost as I would, third generation season ticket holder. Clearly loved the place, thought it was a great club, loved being here.

It's the idea that playing for QPR is a privilege that we need to get back into the squad. Playing in that stadium, for those fans, in the shirt that Bowles, Marsh, Ferdinand, Currie, McDonald, Ainsworth, Furlong etc all wore is a fcking privilege. Show it respect, understand its ways, run through walls for it — it doesn't take much to become a hero in W12. Sick to the back teeth of these arsholes treating QPR as a top up for their pension pot. Cesar, and several others, can kindly fck off.

Wot you said.... but would add to that...

The player fans: Gallen (came back when we were sh1te), Cookie (had his best years and also gave back £250K back to the club from Fulscum move) and Bircham (who was a just above average player, who had offers from Prem clubs but chose his club over the Prem and then never got to play in the Prem). Tag on Hammersmith born Rowly and did they all play together in one game? A team almost full of fans?

One could stretch to Chris Day who while not born a Fan became one if you wanted to add another. How many other clubs that are pro clubs have had that in recent years?

This for me is what QPR is all about, even players like Crouch want to come back. And then there is managers like Powell and Pearce who would love to manage QPR, just like Gerry and Gregory had the chance to do so.

But I shall let the players speak for themselves:
Source: http://www.qpr.co.uk/news/article/160413-qpr-forever-774964.aspx

Nuff Said

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This made me heave.... on 13:29 - Apr 24 with 1440 views

themodfather

This made me heave.... on 12:50 - Apr 24 by LazyFan

cesar knew this was dodgy..would he be seen in an argentina shirt?
would he be seen in an inter shirt, if at ac or vice versa??

someone needs to tell him, he has cost us too many goals with errors..yes many saves too but there are some real clangers...doubt we'll see him again cos he'll get serious stick now.
fine him the maximum and send the money to JACK IZZARD school?
what a tw*t.

This made me heave.... on 14:02 - Apr 24 with 1415 views

el_weirdo

This made me heave.... on 22:52 - Apr 23 by hamptonhillhoop
Has anyone still got a photo of John terry holding the England flag with QPR on it, just to redress the balance. I love that photo just for the rangers fans knowing face next to him [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]

I would also like this photo.

This made me heave.... on 15:26 - Apr 24 with 1380 views

Juzzie

"The player fans: Gallen (came back when we were sh1te), Cookie (had his best years and also gave back £250K back to the club from Fulscum move) and Bircham (who was a just above average player, who had offers from Prem clubs but chose his club over the Prem and then never got to play in the Prem). Tag on Hammersmith born Rowly and did they all play together in one game? A team almost full of fans?"

I think the closest we got was during a 1-1 (or maybe 2-2) draw at home against Wycombe.

Playing 442, at one point during the game, our entire midfield consisted of QPR fans;

Cook / Miller / Bircham / Gallen

This made me heave.... on 16:24 - Apr 24 with 1351 views

A40Bosh

This is where I obviously depart mentally from some people and question if I am really a "Loyal Fan" because I simply cannot get outraged about this whole incident.

I kind of get what Norf was saying that, as an isolated incident in itself, it is something and nothing, but on top of all the other negativity surrounding most aspects of the playing side of the club this year, it just is more fuel to throw on the fire of hatred towards much of the current first team squad. But other than that I think the bloke has done nothing wrong.

I think the biggest mistake is the club even acknowledging it and confirming in many people's minds that this is a serious matter. Does anyone employed in the club actually really think it is or are they pandering to the X% of QPR fans they think might be upset by this and therefore feel they have to issue an apology even if it is only lip service. Maybe I just don't understand enough the hatred that some like Finney and others will openly show for all things Chelsea.

Personally, I would never even contemplate putting on a Chelsea shirt, I couldn't even for a bet, but there again I am not a professional footballer I am a QPR supporter but I see profesional footballers as footballers first and whether or not they are QPR fanatics like Kevin Gallen or Cooky or not is largely irrelevent to me as long as the player comes in and gives a 100% on the pitch.

People here are comparing Cesar with Birch, Rowly, Ainsworth, Cooky, but that is only a handful of the thousands of players who have passed through the club over the years who are not QPR fans. It's fine to say respect the badge, respect the club, respect the history, but I think it is wrong to try and dictate what a person does in their private life and I believe this was supposed to be during a private event.

Cesar, regardless of whether he has been good or bad or indifferent this season is a professional footballer first who happens to be currently play for Queens Park Rangers. I think you have to draw a line in the sand and determine what is his public persona and his public life and what is his private life that should be respected.

If Cesar turns up at an industry event in his capacity as a pro footballer and is decked out in a Chelsea shirt, OK fair enough, totally insensitive and he should have perhaps been better advised.

To further exaggerate my point you could argue all day on whether or not his contract and terms of employment says or should include sections stating "As a QPR employee, you agree to acknowledge that QPR as a club and as a support base detest Chelsea and everything to do with the club and therefore at no time should you be seen to give any support to any things Chelsea related, and furthermore you shall never be seen swapping your shirt for a Chelsea player at the end of a game let alone put it on in front of the fan base.

If Julio Cesar, the private individual, is at a private birthday party and decides that he and his family will dress up in a Chelsea strip and don a stupid wig to take the piss out of a friend, then that is no one else's business but his own.

Unfortunately, the explosion of social networking in the modern age and the ability of anyone anywhere to take a picture on a phone or tablet and seconds later share it with the wider world has blurred the lines between private and public personas of "celebrities" and those who are sporting icons.

But that is not Cesar's problem.

I think if there was a statement from him it should have said "What I do in my private life is non of your business so FCUK OFF and get a life.

What next, a long list of other team shirts or club apparel being given to all incoming players in case they offend someone. No Cardiff Shirt to be worn, no Fulham shirt to be worn, no Norwich shirt to be worn, no Man U shirt to be worn.

I am not saying for one minute that fans are not entitled to hate Chelsea, but I think people have overreacted and have not balanced the public v the private man. Also it is easy to say that he would not have worn an opposition shirt in Italy and he would not wear an Argentinian shirt - how do you know that for a fact?

Me think the lady does protest too much and the club were wrong to pander to it.

IMHO only of course.

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This made me heave.... on 16:34 - Apr 24 with 1338 views

TacticalR

Fair points A40Bosh. I have found it hard to get worked up about this, although I haven't really been able to put my finger on why.

At most it's indicated that some of the foreign players don't really understand the club, but we knew that already. It seems minor to some of the other things that have happened over the last year.

Air hostess clique

This made me heave.... on 16:41 - Apr 24 with 1330 views

qprcanadabc

This made me heave.... on 16:41 - Apr 23 by QPRDave
SPOT ON!

and agree totally here too

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