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VAR 20:29 - Mar 5 with 2109 views

Watching PSG v Liverpool and PSG just had a perfectly good goal chalked off because his heel was offside. Getting fcking ridiculous and ruins the joy of football. Makes me glad we’re not in the Prem.

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VAR on 21:54 - Mar 5 with 1969 views

ManinBlack

Yes a pathetic decision as if a heel gives an unfair advantage. Then a Liverpool defender could have been sent off but VAR ruled no foul. To cap it all against the run of play Liverpool nick it at the end.

First Queen's Park last night went two up in the second half and still contrived to lose, and now this robbery by the Scousers. Damn it all...

VAR on 21:58 - Mar 5 with 1950 views

colinallcars

VAR on 01:24 - Mar 6 with 1765 views

Boston

How odd, the Young Master Boston watched this game in a packed out pub on Ranelagh St , Liverpool 1 - and the general consensus was it was a very well officiated fixture

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VAR on 01:52 - Mar 6 with 1731 views

Hooparoo

VAR on 01:24 - Mar 6 by Boston
How odd, the Young Master Boston watched this game in a packed out pub on Ranelagh St , Liverpool 1 - and the general consensus was it was a very well officiated fixture [Post edited 6 Mar 1:25]

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VAR on 08:43 - Mar 6 with 1506 views

sprocket

Technically offside but as we know no real advantage and in the spirit of the game should have been allowed. What struck me was it took approx 30 seconds for decision to be made which puts EPL VAR implementation to shame.

VAR on 08:48 - Mar 6 with 1484 views

TheChef

Yes a clear and obvious error!

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VAR on 09:14 - Mar 6 with 1411 views

RBlock

VAR on 08:43 - Mar 6 by sprocket
Technically offside but as we know no real advantage and in the spirit of the game should have been allowed. What struck me was it took approx 30 seconds for decision to be made which puts EPL VAR implementation to shame.

I think the offside one is a difficult one to draw the line on (no pun intended) and frequently argue with Clive about this. For me offside is binary - you're offside or you're not. If you start introducing caveats like the attacking player has to have an advantage from being offside, it will be more subjective chaos. I hate VAR, want rid of it in all football, including for offsides for the way it kills the emotion of the game, but we can't start differentiating between what's in the spirit of the game and what's not. It's not cricket.

VAR on 09:24 - Mar 6 with 1377 views

Willy_WonkR

VAR on 09:14 - Mar 6 by RBlock

Lines shouldn't be anywhere near it.
If you can't tell if it's offside or not without a line then just take the on field decision. Even better, don't even bother with slow-mo. If VAR thinks, "Mmm, I'm not sure" then just stick with the lino. It wouldn't definitely speed things up.

VAR on 09:35 - Mar 6 with 1327 views

TheChef

VAR on 09:24 - Mar 6 by Willy_WonkR
Lines shouldn't be anywhere near it. If you can't tell if it's offside or not without a line then just take the on field decision. Even better, don't even bother with slow-mo. If VAR thinks, "Mmm, I'm not sure" then just stick with the lino. It wouldn't definitely speed things up.

Yeah why they can't add the on-field decision element like in cricket, I don't know.

It might make VAR slightly more sensible/acceptable (but I'd still want it binned).

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VAR on 11:47 - Mar 6 with 1170 views

supahoopsa

Very, very simple solution to this that I believe they could implement in no time at all.

Make the line they draw 2. 3 or even 4 times wider. Then if you're over that, you're definitely offside. Would resolve ridiculous situation like last night where his heel was offside by an inch

Blue & White hooped blood runs through the family

VAR on 11:53 - Mar 6 with 1162 views

Clive_Anderson

VAR on 09:24 - Mar 6 by Willy_WonkR
Lines shouldn't be anywhere near it. If you can't tell if it's offside or not without a line then just take the on field decision. Even better, don't even bother with slow-mo. If VAR thinks, "Mmm, I'm not sure" then just stick with the lino. It wouldn't definitely speed things up.

Yes some tolerance for offside is needed and if it's in the grey area then go with the online decision like cricket or just give the benefit of the doubt to the attacker (my preference).

They don't know exactly when the ball is played exactly anyway, so when it's that close then it's stupid to rule it out.

No one used to see a goal like that and thought it was offside before VAR got involved, that was always called level.

VAR on 13:01 - Mar 6 with 1044 views

CLAREMAN1995

What about Allison though was that a game for the ages fair play to him

VAR on 13:06 - Mar 6 with 1026 views

sprocket

VAR on 13:01 - Mar 6 by CLAREMAN1995
What about Allison though was that a game for the ages fair play to him

Absolutely. Fantastic. PSG not out of that tie. Kelleher very good backup keeper but not as good as Allison.

VAR on 13:19 - Mar 6 with 970 views

Match82

VAR on 09:24 - Mar 6 by Willy_WonkR
Lines shouldn't be anywhere near it. If you can't tell if it's offside or not without a line then just take the on field decision. Even better, don't even bother with slow-mo. If VAR thinks, "Mmm, I'm not sure" then just stick with the lino. It wouldn't definitely speed things up.

I think, but could be wrong, that they've instructed the linesmen to err on the side of letting things go, knowing that VAR will sort out the close ones.

It makes sense from one angle -if you give an offside and VAR says that's wrong then you've got no way of adjusting the situation - but I think it's forced them into this situation where they can't just go with "linesmen call stands"

Could definitely be wrong about that understanding though

VAR on 13:27 - Mar 6 with 950 views

QPR_John

It’s not VAR it’s the offside law itself. As has been stated above it’s offside or not offside and by the current law a toe nail counts. Why not change the law to say a player is off side if there is daylight between the player and the last but one defender.

VAR on 13:30 - Mar 6 with 932 views

Juzzie

VAR on 09:14 - Mar 6 by RBlock

IIRC offside was brought in to stop goal hanging. Last night the goal was ruled out because a PSG and Liverpool player were standing next to each other facing away from goal and the PSG player just happened to lift his foot meaning his heel was now 'offside'. Sorry, but that's not what it's about, that goal should have stood.

Football is a game where goals are to be scored, that's the primary objective.
That's why strikers are generally the highest paid, are the fans favourite, win the awards and so on.

Players & fans enjoy goals, players & fans watch the game for goals but the authorities seem hell bent on doing everything they can to stop this. It's weird.

That aside, a real smash 'n grab and fair play to Allison who had a corker.

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VAR on 13:32 - Mar 6 with 930 views

Myke

VAR on 13:27 - Mar 6 by QPR_John
It’s not VAR it’s the offside law itself. As has been stated above it’s offside or not offside and by the current law a toe nail counts. Why not change the law to say a player is off side if there is daylight between the player and the last but one defender.

Yeah but what if the game is played under floodlights?

VAR on 13:35 - Mar 6 with 913 views

QPR_John

VAR on 13:32 - Mar 6 by Myke
Yeah but what if the game is played under floodlights?

Had not thought of that

VAR on 10:59 - Mar 7 with 506 views

QPunkR

VAR on 11:47 - Mar 6 by supahoopsa
Very, very simple solution to this that I believe they could implement in no time at all. Make the line they draw 2. 3 or even 4 times wider. Then if you're over that, you're definitely offside. Would resolve ridiculous situation like last night where his heel was offside by an inch

It's not a very, very simple solution - all you'd be doing is moving the issue 2, 3 or 4 times further.

It would still come down to an argument whether a player is 1mm over this new, fatter line.

VAR is pure shite. I can't stand it and argue endlessly with people at work about it including referees and the VAR guys themselves

Shit but local

VAR on 12:10 - Mar 7 with 381 views

ed_83

VAR on 10:59 - Mar 7 by QPunkR
It's not a very, very simple solution - all you'd be doing is moving the issue 2, 3 or 4 times further. It would still come down to an argument whether a player is 1mm over this new, fatter line. VAR is pure shite. I can't stand it and argue endlessly with people at work about it including referees and the VAR guys themselves

This is bang on, and applies equally to things like changing the rules to require daylight between an attacker and a defender. The only way VAR can be made to work properly is to change how it's triggered, and bring it more in line with cricket or tennis.

Give each team two VAR appeals per half, with the appeal retained if it's successful, triggered by the captain speaking to the ref or the manager speaking to the fourth official. Everything else stays with the on-field decision.

The actual technology behind VAR is fine, and on balance it reaches better decisions than on-field refs alone. The issue is that it's being massively over-used to double-check every single marginal decision, rather than just cutting out the really obvious mistakes, like it was originally intended to. Until the FA and FIFA rethink this, it's going to carry on being a mess.

VAR on 12:15 - Mar 7 with 377 views

lassel

Hawkeye works in cricket because they acknowledge they can’t be 100% accurate on ball tracking and build in ‘umpires call’ when it’s a tight decision.

Football fails because of an arrogant insistence that they can’t time the exact split second the ball was contacted (they can’t) and the exact millimetre where on a player becomes ‘active’ (they can’t).

The insistence that offside is objective rather than subjective is utter bollocks and ‘solves’ a problem that never existed. People were never blowing up over goals that were maybe a millimetre or two offside.

Accept a threshold of ‘umpire's call’ for offsides - say an inch or two - and get on with life.

VAR on 12:36 - Mar 7 with 337 views

LazyFan

VAR on 12:15 - Mar 7 by lassel

I thought I read somewhere that VAR is sometimes only accurate beyond 20cm of difference or something like that. So, he could have well been onside.

In addition, he was moving away from the goal. Therefore, I would say the rules should be amended so that if the player directly moves away from the goal line and is 10 yards beyond the keeper, they are onside.

This way, we don't get those stupid offsides inside the wrong half because someone ran back to be onside when they received the ball.

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