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When will the penny drop? 00:44 - Aug 18 with 18407 viewsDr_Parnassus

Everything that was warned about with regards to switching to a style that the players aren’t suited to is now visible to most. There is a very good reason we didn’t start trying to be Brazil of the 1970’s over the last 2 seasons… and as a result saw the side be one of the best in the league… it’s because the manager realised the limitations of the squad and played to their strengths. That’s management.

I am wondering at what point the collective penny will drop that we cannot continue to play this way UNTIL we have the squad capable to do it. The Championship is too strong a league to be doing that, last time we got to this level we were a slick, well oiled machine with players capable of playing Premier League football in Dyer, Williams, Rangel and Britton. That spine would go on to win the League Cup, finish top half in the Premier League and perform well in Europe…. A championship spine it was not.

We had the players with ability leagues above the level they were playing at meaning we could afford to take some risks with regards to playing style. A nearing prime Leon Britton in league 1 seems a bit laughable now doesn’t it? That’s because it was.

The situation sadly is not the same today. We need to play to our strengths, get some points on the board, get the players in that we need and slowly incorporate the system you want. People talk of long term plans… and then change a system overnight?! We will get slaughtered at this level.

How about that actually becomes the longer term plan touted about and we slowly implement it while protecting our Championship status? Too mad an idea?

We do not want to lose our league position and drop down to league 1 as I see some people now happily stating they wouldn’t mind. I find that sad to read and extremely naive.

Relegation won’t mean us having an easy season to test this style against, we will lose even more players, have less income to replace them and the spiral continues. It’s an arrogant point of view to think relegation can be handled easily by the club.

Relegation is not a positive option and the fact we have gone from play offs to the Premier League to accepting the realities and the weighing up of pros and cons of League 1 football in such a short space of time should tell you something ain’t right.

I like Russell Martin, I think he has a good future in the game, my issue is not with him and I hope he stays for a long time to build something. My issue is with the attitude surrounding everything at the moment that we must play a certain way immediately, regardless of the damage it will cause.


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When will the penny drop? on 23:48 - Feb 21 with 793 viewsDr_Parnassus

When will the penny drop? on 23:41 - Feb 21 by STID2017

You are too arrogant to ever admit you are wrong
It is so sad it is funny


For me to admit I am wrong about something, I have to actually be wrong.

I don’t just do it to appease trolls with a complex.

Martinez is a better manager than Laudrup in my opinion. It makes no difference whatsoever that they didn’t manage the same team at the same level. Not sure how clearer that can be explained to you.

You read my post wrong and jumped in too quick and have no had your derrière handed to you on a plate again.

Something I think you are going to have to deal with.

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When will the penny drop? on 23:48 - Feb 21 with 793 viewsSTID2017

When will the penny drop? on 23:38 - Feb 21 by Dr_Parnassus

Huh? Why on earth does you putting me on ignore affect me responding to the silly points you make?

You putting me on ignore means you can’t see my posts, not the other way around.

Christ on a bike


Shame they bothered you so much you had to respond to each and every one even when you assumed that I wasnt reading your response ?
Bit worrying that obsession with following me, now I think about it

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When will the penny drop? on 23:49 - Feb 21 with 792 viewsDr_Parnassus

When will the penny drop? on 23:48 - Feb 21 by STID2017

Shame they bothered you so much you had to respond to each and every one even when you assumed that I wasnt reading your response ?
Bit worrying that obsession with following me, now I think about it


They don’t bother me in the slightest.

Whether you read them or not is of no concern to me. I am exposing your nonsense to others that may read your posts and not realise the lies in them.

Whether you read it and cry about it like you do now, or pretend to ignore them like before is of no concern to me.

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When will the penny drop? on 23:55 - Feb 21 with 776 viewsSTID2017

When will the penny drop? on 23:49 - Feb 21 by Dr_Parnassus

They don’t bother me in the slightest.

Whether you read them or not is of no concern to me. I am exposing your nonsense to others that may read your posts and not realise the lies in them.

Whether you read it and cry about it like you do now, or pretend to ignore them like before is of no concern to me.


As per other post, nothing worth crying about on here.
Obviously they do bother you otherwise you would not keep responding with snide comments
As you were

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When will the penny drop? on 00:04 - Feb 22 with 764 viewsDr_Parnassus

When will the penny drop? on 23:55 - Feb 21 by STID2017

As per other post, nothing worth crying about on here.
Obviously they do bother you otherwise you would not keep responding with snide comments
As you were


They don’t bother me in the slightest.

I respond to most people on here, doesn’t mean they bother me. Why do you think you are so special that you are immune from me responding? Your rubbish is just as good as anyone else’s, whether you dislike it or not is not of my concern.

That’s what the ignore function is for, that you pretended to use for a day.

If you don’t like me responding to you then try to stop lying would be a good start. A very ugly trait to have.

As you were, champ.
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When will the penny drop? on 00:23 - Feb 22 with 756 viewsSTID2017

When will the penny drop? on 00:04 - Feb 22 by Dr_Parnassus

They don’t bother me in the slightest.

I respond to most people on here, doesn’t mean they bother me. Why do you think you are so special that you are immune from me responding? Your rubbish is just as good as anyone else’s, whether you dislike it or not is not of my concern.

That’s what the ignore function is for, that you pretended to use for a day.

If you don’t like me responding to you then try to stop lying would be a good start. A very ugly trait to have.

As you were, champ.
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Never been a liar in my life chump.
No would I resort to questioning someone's mental health.
That is the lowest of the low
Even if you had the decency to apologise for that, it would show you had some decency

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When will the penny drop? on 00:29 - Feb 22 with 751 viewsDr_Parnassus

When will the penny drop? on 00:23 - Feb 22 by STID2017

Never been a liar in my life chump.
No would I resort to questioning someone's mental health.
That is the lowest of the low
Even if you had the decency to apologise for that, it would show you had some decency


I didn’t question your mental health, mentally challenged or a liar was my musing, I hadn’t settled on one yet.

Neither of which related to mental health of course, that’s another of your incorrect assertions. It was questioning your intellect as your ability to consistently misinterpret a situation is beyond normal.

So my musing was that it is either coming from a place of dishonesty or some form of intellectual failing.

As it goes I think I’m settling on a bit of both. A bit thick and a bit of a liar? Sound fair?

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When will the penny drop? on 00:37 - Feb 22 with 748 viewsSTID2017

When will the penny drop? on 00:29 - Feb 22 by Dr_Parnassus

I didn’t question your mental health, mentally challenged or a liar was my musing, I hadn’t settled on one yet.

Neither of which related to mental health of course, that’s another of your incorrect assertions. It was questioning your intellect as your ability to consistently misinterpret a situation is beyond normal.

So my musing was that it is either coming from a place of dishonesty or some form of intellectual failing.

As it goes I think I’m settling on a bit of both. A bit thick and a bit of a liar? Sound fair?


Sorry so if a person were mentally challenged to would feel that an acceptable thing to post in a derogatory manner to them ?
You are clearly sadder than i thought.
Perhaps you need to get out in the real world more
Chump

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When will the penny drop? on 00:44 - Feb 22 with 742 viewsDr_Parnassus

When will the penny drop? on 00:37 - Feb 22 by STID2017

Sorry so if a person were mentally challenged to would feel that an acceptable thing to post in a derogatory manner to them ?
You are clearly sadder than i thought.
Perhaps you need to get out in the real world more
Chump


Apology accepted.

Yes if I think they are thick and misinterpreting things constantly then yes absolutely an acceptable thing to muse. It’s only derogatory if you acknowledge it to be close to the truth I guess.

You can call me thick and it wouldn’t make a difference to me, I would know I’m not and would know everyone else would know I’m not. My posts speak for themselves.

If you are upset because I noted you are a bit thick and a liar then maybe try to not be those things?

Just a thought.

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When will the penny drop? on 00:50 - Feb 22 with 738 viewsSTID2017

When will the penny drop? on 00:44 - Feb 22 by Dr_Parnassus

Apology accepted.

Yes if I think they are thick and misinterpreting things constantly then yes absolutely an acceptable thing to muse. It’s only derogatory if you acknowledge it to be close to the truth I guess.

You can call me thick and it wouldn’t make a difference to me, I would know I’m not and would know everyone else would know I’m not. My posts speak for themselves.

If you are upset because I noted you are a bit thick and a liar then maybe try to not be those things?

Just a thought.


Don't try and misconstrue my questioning of you as an apology.
It is you that should be apologising
As I stated previously you will have a very long wait for an apology off me chump

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When will the penny drop? on 00:58 - Feb 22 with 733 viewsDr_Parnassus

When will the penny drop? on 00:50 - Feb 22 by STID2017

Don't try and misconstrue my questioning of you as an apology.
It is you that should be apologising
As I stated previously you will have a very long wait for an apology off me chump


You said sorry, that’s not a question, it’s an apology.

Why should I be apologising? Prove yourself to be not a liar and not thick and I most certainly will. But I highly doubt you can do either.

When you called me a liar for not being to Aberdare, you didn’t apologise now you have realised your error. Yet you want an apology off me for something you haven’t been able to disprove?

Interesting logic, champ.

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When will the penny drop? on 08:25 - Feb 22 with 672 viewsCatullus

When will the penny drop? on 00:44 - Feb 22 by Dr_Parnassus

Apology accepted.

Yes if I think they are thick and misinterpreting things constantly then yes absolutely an acceptable thing to muse. It’s only derogatory if you acknowledge it to be close to the truth I guess.

You can call me thick and it wouldn’t make a difference to me, I would know I’m not and would know everyone else would know I’m not. My posts speak for themselves.

If you are upset because I noted you are a bit thick and a liar then maybe try to not be those things?

Just a thought.


If I were you I wouldn't assume what everyone else thinks of you or what you are. That could be considered the height of arrogance.

Maybe you two should stop this before it goes too far. Remember, name calling and abuse, not allowed

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When will the penny drop? on 08:45 - Feb 22 with 663 viewsDr_Parnassus

When will the penny drop? on 08:25 - Feb 22 by Catullus

If I were you I wouldn't assume what everyone else thinks of you or what you are. That could be considered the height of arrogance.

Maybe you two should stop this before it goes too far. Remember, name calling and abuse, not allowed


I am happy to be seen as arrogant, I have no interest in all that nonsense.

It isn't name calling to call someone who is lying ''a liar'', it's just a fact.

It isn't name calling to call someone who is acting incredibly thick ''thick'' either. Also just a fact.

Is it name calling to call someone a murderer who murdered someone?

But thanks for your input as always Cat
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When will the penny drop? on 09:13 - Feb 22 with 642 viewsKeithHaynes

If I could generally remind folk of the boards desire to keep debate at a level whereby our charity links would find acceptable, and indeed our own board policy.

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When will the penny drop? on 09:31 - Feb 22 with 633 viewsDr_Parnassus

Agreed, the trolls seem to have taken over recently.

There are about 4 or 5 of them that look to attack certain posters which descends these threads into the gutter.

This particular one in question you of course had to remove a thread of his last week when he was attempting to goad.

If they can be stamped out early enough I don't think it would get to the level it does, sadly these people are intent on causing conflict as opposed to discussing the team.

Since I have bumped this thread as it is interesting what was noted in August is still true today, we have had 2 pages of posts.... NONE about the subject matter, just personal nonsense.
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When will the penny drop? on 09:55 - Feb 22 with 613 viewsSTID2017

When will the penny drop? on 08:25 - Feb 22 by Catullus

If I were you I wouldn't assume what everyone else thinks of you or what you are. That could be considered the height of arrogance.

Maybe you two should stop this before it goes too far. Remember, name calling and abuse, not allowed


Sensible post Cat.
Things do get out of hand
We are all adults on here and we all support the same team
Passions and opinions run high, but at times too high

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When will the penny drop? on 09:56 - Feb 22 with 612 viewsmagicdaps10

When will the penny drop? on 09:31 - Feb 22 by Dr_Parnassus

Agreed, the trolls seem to have taken over recently.

There are about 4 or 5 of them that look to attack certain posters which descends these threads into the gutter.

This particular one in question you of course had to remove a thread of his last week when he was attempting to goad.

If they can be stamped out early enough I don't think it would get to the level it does, sadly these people are intent on causing conflict as opposed to discussing the team.

Since I have bumped this thread as it is interesting what was noted in August is still true today, we have had 2 pages of posts.... NONE about the subject matter, just personal nonsense.
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It's intended to you aswell as others. Maybe if you are not willing to accept your actions then maybe Keith might have to start taking some action.

We all know why the post was bumped.

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When will the penny drop? on 09:57 - Feb 22 with 604 viewsDr_Parnassus

When will the penny drop? on 09:55 - Feb 22 by STID2017

Sensible post Cat.
Things do get out of hand
We are all adults on here and we all support the same team
Passions and opinions run high, but at times too high


Then you seriously need to review your conduct.

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When will the penny drop? on 09:59 - Feb 22 with 600 viewsSTID2017

When will the penny drop? on 09:13 - Feb 22 by KeithHaynes

If I could generally remind folk of the boards desire to keep debate at a level whereby our charity links would find acceptable, and indeed our own board policy.


Understood and taken on board.

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When will the penny drop? on 09:59 - Feb 22 with 599 viewsDr_Parnassus

When will the penny drop? on 09:56 - Feb 22 by magicdaps10

It's intended to you aswell as others. Maybe if you are not willing to accept your actions then maybe Keith might have to start taking some action.

We all know why the post was bumped.


Whether it was or not is irrelevant, I am perfectly happy with my conduct. Trolls will be treated harshly (but fairly in my view), normal posters that exchange views with respect will be spoken to as they speak to others.

This post was bumped to show that what people have been attacked for from the likes of your ilk were absolutely spot on. This could have been written yesterday. I would imagine if you and your ilk continue to cause such conflict then Keith can indeed start to take some long overdue action, I am sure he is fully aware of what is going on.

Shame some aren't man enough to admit that and instead look to further attack the posters that called it absolutely bang on to the letter and cause such threads to descend into this.

Humility is what has been suggested, isn't it...

But back to the thread.... the OP was bang on, wasn't it? What you reckon?
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When will the penny drop? on 10:22 - Feb 22 with 580 viewslifelong

When will the penny drop? on 09:59 - Feb 22 by Dr_Parnassus

Whether it was or not is irrelevant, I am perfectly happy with my conduct. Trolls will be treated harshly (but fairly in my view), normal posters that exchange views with respect will be spoken to as they speak to others.

This post was bumped to show that what people have been attacked for from the likes of your ilk were absolutely spot on. This could have been written yesterday. I would imagine if you and your ilk continue to cause such conflict then Keith can indeed start to take some long overdue action, I am sure he is fully aware of what is going on.

Shame some aren't man enough to admit that and instead look to further attack the posters that called it absolutely bang on to the letter and cause such threads to descend into this.

Humility is what has been suggested, isn't it...

But back to the thread.... the OP was bang on, wasn't it? What you reckon?
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I reckon you’re the most boring person on this forum.👍
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When will the penny drop? on 10:26 - Feb 22 with 577 viewsDr_Parnassus

When will the penny drop? on 10:22 - Feb 22 by lifelong

I reckon you’re the most boring person on this forum.👍


I am also the most regularly correct, so that's ok with me. The truth is often boring I suppose.

Much love, Swansea Independent's second favorite poster.

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When will the penny drop? on 10:26 - Feb 22 with 573 viewsbuilthjack

When will the penny drop? on 00:58 - Feb 22 by Dr_Parnassus

You said sorry, that’s not a question, it’s an apology.

Why should I be apologising? Prove yourself to be not a liar and not thick and I most certainly will. But I highly doubt you can do either.

When you called me a liar for not being to Aberdare, you didn’t apologise now you have realised your error. Yet you want an apology off me for something you haven’t been able to disprove?

Interesting logic, champ.


I personally know STID and he is neither a liar or thick.
You should get out more.

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When will the penny drop? on 10:27 - Feb 22 with 573 viewsDr_Parnassus

When will the penny drop? on 10:26 - Feb 22 by builthjack

I personally know STID and he is neither a liar or thick.
You should get out more.


So I am from Aberdare?

Whether you know him or not is irrelevant, he lies. Just a fact.

Out?

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When will the penny drop? on 10:30 - Feb 22 with 566 viewsbuilthjack

I am not getting into a long yoyo with you. I haven't the time.He is no liar. End of. Final.

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