| When will the penny drop? 00:44 - Aug 18 with 18429 views | Dr_Parnassus |
Everything that was warned about with regards to switching to a style that the players aren’t suited to is now visible to most. There is a very good reason we didn’t start trying to be Brazil of the 1970’s over the last 2 seasons… and as a result saw the side be one of the best in the league… it’s because the manager realised the limitations of the squad and played to their strengths. That’s management.
I am wondering at what point the collective penny will drop that we cannot continue to play this way UNTIL we have the squad capable to do it. The Championship is too strong a league to be doing that, last time we got to this level we were a slick, well oiled machine with players capable of playing Premier League football in Dyer, Williams, Rangel and Britton. That spine would go on to win the League Cup, finish top half in the Premier League and perform well in Europe…. A championship spine it was not.
We had the players with ability leagues above the level they were playing at meaning we could afford to take some risks with regards to playing style. A nearing prime Leon Britton in league 1 seems a bit laughable now doesn’t it? That’s because it was.
The situation sadly is not the same today. We need to play to our strengths, get some points on the board, get the players in that we need and slowly incorporate the system you want. People talk of long term plans… and then change a system overnight?! We will get slaughtered at this level.
How about that actually becomes the longer term plan touted about and we slowly implement it while protecting our Championship status? Too mad an idea?
We do not want to lose our league position and drop down to league 1 as I see some people now happily stating they wouldn’t mind. I find that sad to read and extremely naive.
Relegation won’t mean us having an easy season to test this style against, we will lose even more players, have less income to replace them and the spiral continues. It’s an arrogant point of view to think relegation can be handled easily by the club.
Relegation is not a positive option and the fact we have gone from play offs to the Premier League to accepting the realities and the weighing up of pros and cons of League 1 football in such a short space of time should tell you something ain’t right.
I like Russell Martin, I think he has a good future in the game, my issue is not with him and I hope he stays for a long time to build something. My issue is with the attitude surrounding everything at the moment that we must play a certain way immediately, regardless of the damage it will cause.
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| When will the penny drop? on 02:22 - Feb 25 with 848 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| When will the penny drop? on 02:18 - Feb 25 by STID2017 |
Again - "I am handling about 4 at once with ease... "
Not "I can or have handled about 4 ar once with ease ..."
Clearly you are stating "I am" which is in the moment.
At this moment I am typing with my left hand whilst throwing four balls in the air with ease with my right hand ( actually confession I only am throwing one ball in the air at the moment, but the other three may be along any moment )
Do you see how either ridiculous or valid both statements are ? |
Nope, I am.
It's an ongoing thing.
''I am a great goal-scorer and scoring goals for fun'' says Messi, while eating breakfast at the table. He is spot on, he doesn't have to say ''I have been a great goal-scorer and I have once scored goals for fun''.
Easy.
Have another go. | |
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| When will the penny drop? on 02:29 - Feb 25 with 829 views | STID2017 |
| When will the penny drop? on 02:22 - Feb 25 by Dr_Parnassus |
Nope, I am.
It's an ongoing thing.
''I am a great goal-scorer and scoring goals for fun'' says Messi, while eating breakfast at the table. He is spot on, he doesn't have to say ''I have been a great goal-scorer and I have once scored goals for fun''.
Easy.
Have another go. |
Sorry but "I am ... " is of the present (e.g I am digging thecgarden)
You may well have managed 4 posters at once earlier and may well manage 4 posters again later today.
However to be grammatically correct you are currently only handling one.
Not so easy eh ... |  |
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| When will the penny drop? on 02:46 - Feb 25 with 798 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| When will the penny drop? on 02:43 - Feb 25 by STID2017 |
Incorrect maybe grammar isn't your strong point.
In the context of the phrase you are using it "I am " is incorrect, as much as you would like it to be otherwise
"I was handling" or " I am going to be handling" are the only two phrases you can use
So did you want to try again and tell me what you achieved yesterday or what you may hope to achieve later today ? |
Nope, ''I am'' is perfectly acceptable in the context I used it.
I just explained it to you.
Can you imagine an interview after the game:-
Piroe: ''I am playing really well at the moment''... ''No you aren't you are being interviewed by me, what you mean is you have played well and you may again''. 
As I said, only trolls would state that. Which may explain things.... | |
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| When will the penny drop? on 02:50 - Feb 25 with 794 views | STID2017 |
| When will the penny drop? on 02:46 - Feb 25 by Dr_Parnassus |
Nope, ''I am'' is perfectly acceptable in the context I used it.
I just explained it to you.
Can you imagine an interview after the game:-
Piroe: ''I am playing really well at the moment''... ''No you aren't you are being interviewed by me, what you mean is you have played well and you may again''.
As I said, only trolls would state that. Which may explain things.... |
Oh dear
Seems that you are not as clever as you would have us al, believe
Many things can be changed to support an argument
Grammar is not one of them
Guess whatever you are a Dr in, it certainly isn't the English Language ... | |
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| When will the penny drop? on 03:11 - Feb 25 with 781 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| When will the penny drop? on 03:05 - Feb 25 by STID2017 |
What is the point of discussing deeper topics when you cannot admit when you are proven wrong ? |
Because I haven't.
You don't think I can use ''I am'' to describe being in an ongoing situation, I have informed (and proved) you can.
the rest is you jumping up and down about it... but feel free to bring something more interesting to the table. | |
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| When will the penny drop? on 03:18 - Feb 25 with 779 views | STID2017 |
| When will the penny drop? on 03:11 - Feb 25 by Dr_Parnassus |
Because I haven't.
You don't think I can use ''I am'' to describe being in an ongoing situation, I have informed (and proved) you can.
the rest is you jumping up and down about it... but feel free to bring something more interesting to the table. |
I have proven you wrong on grammar
You wont admit it
No jumping up and down here
Just the satisfaction that I know I am right and you haven't got the humility to admit you are wrong
Strange that you often ask of others what you cannot do yourself | |
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| When will the penny drop? on 03:31 - Feb 25 with 776 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| When will the penny drop? on 03:18 - Feb 25 by STID2017 |
I have proven you wrong on grammar
You wont admit it
No jumping up and down here
Just the satisfaction that I know I am right and you haven't got the humility to admit you are wrong
Strange that you often ask of others what you cannot do yourself |
No You haven't, you thought you did for a period of around 3 minutes before I taught you it's perfectly acceptable to describe an on-going situation, and showed you examples.
If you wanted to correct someone on grammar then it's probably not the best start to go 6 lines of text without a single punctuation mark.
I am afraid all your nonsense boils down to, because you cannot make any legible football point, is a poor understanding of language context.
I can't help you with that unfortunately. | |
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| When will the penny drop? on 03:42 - Feb 25 with 770 views | STID2017 |
| When will the penny drop? on 03:31 - Feb 25 by Dr_Parnassus |
No You haven't, you thought you did for a period of around 3 minutes before I taught you it's perfectly acceptable to describe an on-going situation, and showed you examples.
If you wanted to correct someone on grammar then it's probably not the best start to go 6 lines of text without a single punctuation mark.
I am afraid all your nonsense boils down to, because you cannot make any legible football point, is a poor understanding of language context.
I can't help you with that unfortunately. |
Believe what you will then
I am off to bed knowing I am right
Enjoy your nightshift | |
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| When will the penny drop? on 03:47 - Feb 25 with 769 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| When will the penny drop? on 03:42 - Feb 25 by STID2017 |
Believe what you will then
I am off to bed knowing I am right
Enjoy your nightshift |
It's not about believing, it's about reality.
Amazed you are up at nearly 4am to offer this as a debate, I will certainly enjoy, thanks for making my work lunchtime more enjoyable. | |
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| When will the penny drop? on 08:39 - Feb 25 with 740 views | magicdaps10 |
| When will the penny drop? on 00:02 - Feb 25 by Dr_Parnassus |
Sure, in this case it would be someone who attempts to divert discussion away from the topic at hand in order to try and garner an emotional response.
With regards to the Bradford thread, I gave my on topic view. Nothing personal in there, no digs, no off topic segues.
You are more than welcome to do what I have done on your Bradford thread and respectfully respond to the points being made in the OP. But you haven't done that for as long as I can remember.
Replying and talking about football certainly is not trolling, no.
Again, you are welcome to reply to the points made in my OP. You are welcome to agree with them to, as they are pretty hard to disagree with now.... |
A Troll is someone who posts to get a poster to retaliate, a Troll is someone who targets posters.
A Troll is not the description that DrP presented, it appears he is classing people as trolls incorrectly and to his wrong definition of one. |  |
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| When will the penny drop? on 09:08 - Feb 25 with 718 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| When will the penny drop? on 08:39 - Feb 25 by magicdaps10 |
A Troll is someone who posts to get a poster to retaliate, a Troll is someone who targets posters.
A Troll is not the description that DrP presented, it appears he is classing people as trolls incorrectly and to his wrong definition of one. |
Not at all, a troll is very much someone who posts off topic nonsense in order to provoke an emotional response.
Usually they take the discussion away from the subject matter and into the realm they feel most comfortable, which is usually personal insults.
Provoking a response is perfectly desired. I have asked your gang some direct questions to attempt to provoke an on topic response, however you guys are too entrenched in your trolling to do so.
I’ve lost count of the amount of times I have requested to discuss the OP.
So again…
Feel free to tell me how we are looking good tactically under Martin, how the players are looking comfortable and error free from the instructions and how results are improving over time.
I’m all ears. | |
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| When will the penny drop? on 09:24 - Feb 25 with 711 views | shingle |
| When will the penny drop? on 21:38 - Feb 24 by builthjack |
Name your fans. Lets see if they agree.
Go. |
Still waiting. |  | | |
| When will the penny drop? on 09:26 - Feb 25 with 707 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| When will the penny drop? on 09:24 - Feb 25 by shingle |
Still waiting. |
For what Shingle Bells? | |
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| When will the penny drop? on 11:51 - Feb 25 with 648 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| When will the penny drop? on 11:38 - Feb 25 by magicdaps10 |
That highlighted in blue is a perfect example of your reply
Shingle bells!!!
Provocative to get attention just as the bumping of this post. |
Why is Shingle Bells provocative?
It’s replying in keeping to his posts, which I regularly do and will of course continue to do so. If Shingle Bells wishes to put forward an on topic non trolling football post he shall be addressed in keeping with that.
The bumping of this OP was football related showing that you and the gang are trolling people for calling it absolutely spot on.
Since I have bumped it and invited on topic football discussion we have had 4 or 5 pages solid of personal tittle tattle instigated by yourself and the trolling gang with the sole intention of getting a reaction.
When you get a reply you then cry about it and make out like it’s underserved.
Talk about football and we will get along swimmingly. Act like a troll and you will continue to be a frustrated individual completely unable to get on top in debate   | |
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| When will the penny drop? on 12:03 - Feb 25 with 642 views | magicdaps10 |
| When will the penny drop? on 11:51 - Feb 25 by Dr_Parnassus |
Why is Shingle Bells provocative?
It’s replying in keeping to his posts, which I regularly do and will of course continue to do so. If Shingle Bells wishes to put forward an on topic non trolling football post he shall be addressed in keeping with that.
The bumping of this OP was football related showing that you and the gang are trolling people for calling it absolutely spot on.
Since I have bumped it and invited on topic football discussion we have had 4 or 5 pages solid of personal tittle tattle instigated by yourself and the trolling gang with the sole intention of getting a reaction.
When you get a reply you then cry about it and make out like it’s underserved.
Talk about football and we will get along swimmingly. Act like a troll and you will continue to be a frustrated individual completely unable to get on top in debate |
As you say, act like a Troll and you DrP will continually be frustrated by the responses of others standing up to you and your continued annoyance of trying to always get the last post highlights your anger.
Everything else is just distraction and petulance from your end.
You DrP are killing this site, I would be careful because you need this site more than the "gang" that you have invented in your head. | |
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